From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Apr 6 13:34:11 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:34:11 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? Message-ID: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> Are we insane enough to bid for YAPC? Liz From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Apr 6 13:34:46 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 13:34:46 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Todd? Message-ID: <1676f4427a017b268508aa87663cae72@mac.com> Did I hear right that our intrepid Todd CC left TM? Where'd he go? Liz A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. -- Emo Phillips From naterajj at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 14:09:54 2007 From: naterajj at gmail.com (Juan Jose Natera) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:09:54 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> Message-ID: <349627440704061409g54bb5c87x83b8ca787e7e87a3@mail.gmail.com> That's crazy!, count me in! On 4/6/07, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > > Are we insane enough to bid for YAPC? > > Liz > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > From p at chudpi.org Fri Apr 6 14:33:01 2007 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:33:01 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0704061433s15bb3ee7q849d1ae6a35a832d@mail.gmail.com> "bid for YAPC?" please enlighten this neophyte. On 4/6/07, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > > Are we insane enough to bid for YAPC? > > Liz > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -- It is important that you are happy. - D. Maddox -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20070406/d6da6a9d/attachment.html From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Apr 6 14:39:41 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:39:41 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> <4ad4005e0704061433s15bb3ee7q849d1ae6a35a832d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > "bid for YAPC?" please enlighten this neophyte. Yet Another Perl Conference (YAPC) is held each year in a different city. Each year The Perl Foundation issues a Call for Venue for the North American YAPC. Perl Monger groups interested in playing host submit a statement of intent, then a proposal. The YAPC::Europe call for venue was just issued, and YAPC::NA's will be forthcoming. See http://news.perl-foundation.org/2007/04/ yapceurope2008_call_for_venue.html to learn more. So who wants to see Perl go Hollywood? Liz From ask at develooper.com Fri Apr 6 14:48:43 2007 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:48:43 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Todd? In-Reply-To: <1676f4427a017b268508aa87663cae72@mac.com> References: <1676f4427a017b268508aa87663cae72@mac.com> Message-ID: <6E8B4BCF-0229-406B-A251-681227FCC0C9@develooper.com> On Apr 6, 2007, at 13:34, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > Did I hear right that our intrepid Todd CC left TM? Where'd he go? The Next Generation Borg! Oh, I mean - The Google! - ask -- http://develooper.com/ - http://askask.com/ From hsiegel at pobox.com Fri Apr 6 14:54:40 2007 From: hsiegel at pobox.com (Howard Siegel) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LA.pm] Todd? In-Reply-To: <1676f4427a017b268508aa87663cae72@mac.com> References: <1676f4427a017b268508aa87663cae72@mac.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > Did I hear right that our intrepid Todd CC left TM? Where'd he go? It would appear that he has jumped ship to work for Google. Good luck Todd! - h -- hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! From p at chudpi.org Fri Apr 6 15:02:06 2007 From: p at chudpi.org (pete) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:02:06 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> <4ad4005e0704061433s15bb3ee7q849d1ae6a35a832d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ad4005e0704061502h5ccafaf0t4b7d4f05d47037af@mail.gmail.com> Oh wow. That is crazy. I'll help if I can. Pete. On 4/6/07, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > > > "bid for YAPC?" please enlighten this neophyte. > > > Yet Another Perl Conference (YAPC) is held each year in a different > city. Each year The Perl Foundation issues a Call for Venue for the > North American YAPC. Perl Monger groups interested in playing host > submit a statement of intent, then a proposal. > > The YAPC::Europe call for venue was just issued, and YAPC::NA's will be > forthcoming. > See > http://news.perl-foundation.org/2007/04/ > yapceurope2008_call_for_venue.html to learn more. > > So who wants to see Perl go Hollywood? > > Liz > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > -- It is important that you are happy. - D. Maddox -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20070406/397ee239/attachment.html From btilly at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 15:26:27 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:26:27 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> Message-ID: On 4/6/07, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > > Are we insane enough to bid for YAPC? We're behind the 8-ball on this one. I'm on the Boston.pm mailing list, and I can report that they've been planning their bid for quite a while. If we bid for it, I would think that the goal would be to learn enough about the process to be able to launch a successful bid *next* year. Cheers, Ben From andy at petdance.com Fri Apr 6 15:31:48 2007 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:31:48 -0500 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com> Message-ID: On Apr 6, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Ben Tilly wrote: > We're behind the 8-ball on this one. I'm on the Boston.pm mailing > list, and I can report that they've been planning their bid for quite > a while. If we bid for it, I would think that the goal would be to > learn enough about the process to be able to launch a successful bid > *next* year. OTOH, it can't hurt to submit it, and it's Boston's withdrawl this year that got Houston the spot. You can't win if you don't play. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From mackenziemikebus at yahoo.com Fri Apr 6 16:06:28 2007 From: mackenziemikebus at yahoo.com (Mike MacKenzie) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? Message-ID: <693569.80866.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I had heard that Google was not a big friend of Perl. Do you suppose this signals a change in attitude there towards Perl? Mike > --- Howard Siegel wrote: > > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > > > > > Did I hear right that our intrepid Todd CC left TM? Where'd he go? > > > > It would appear that he has jumped ship to work for Google. > > > > Good luck Todd! > > > > - h > > > > -- > > > > hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Losangeles-pm mailing list > > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From hsiegel at panix.com Fri Apr 6 16:11:30 2007 From: hsiegel at panix.com (Howard Siegel) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? In-Reply-To: <693569.80866.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <693569.80866.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Mike MacKenzie wrote: >> --- Howard Siegel wrote: >> >> It would appear that he has jumped ship to work for Google. >> > > I had heard that Google was not a big friend of Perl. Do you suppose this > signals a change in attitude there towards Perl? No clue. But I also note that Todd's Geekhunter blog appears to be offline as well. - h -- hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! From mackenziemikebus at yahoo.com Fri Apr 6 16:25:18 2007 From: mackenziemikebus at yahoo.com (Mike MacKenzie) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LA.pm] Perl job opening at Language Weaver Message-ID: <38278.94570.qm@web52202.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My company, Language Weaver, located in Marina del Rey, is looking for a new person for our QA team that has advanced Perl skills, so I thought I would post a blurb about it here. Basically the position will be using Perl (and other tools, but Perl is the core technology) for test automation and production (creating installers, etc.). You can see the full posting at our web site: http://www.languageweaver.com/Page.asp?LSM=&intNodeID=920&intPageID=1005 Mike MacKenzie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From ask at develooper.com Fri Apr 6 17:50:08 2007 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:50:08 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

Message-ID: On Apr 6, 2007, at 15:31, Andy Lester wrote: > OTOH, it can't hurt to submit it, and it's Boston's withdrawl this > year that got Houston the spot. You can't win if you don't play. Also, as someone else mentioned it might be good to "practice" once ... To make it happen what we really need is someone who's enthusiastic enough to drive it. :-) - ask -- http://develooper.com/ - http://askask.com/ From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Apr 6 18:12:42 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 18:12:42 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

Message-ID: > > To make it happen what we really need is someone who's enthusiastic > enough to drive it. :-) Am I crazy enough to be The Hostess with the Mostest? Liz A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing. -- Emo Phillips From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 18:39:47 2007 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 20:39:47 -0500 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

Message-ID: <49d805d70704061839w662824b8qa4c2923414f2502e@mail.gmail.com> > Am I crazy enough to be The Hostess with the Mostest? Hostess with the Mostest part 2.... Liz is already an experienced YAPC hostess. You guys so need to put in a bid. Chicago.pm started late, got the bid, and had a decent conference... if I can be allowed to say that :) From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Apr 6 21:18:31 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:18:31 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70704061839w662824b8qa4c2923414f2502e@mail.gmail.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

<49d805d70704061839w662824b8qa4c2923414f2502e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77500b3fbd7c784690db984946c1109c@mac.com> I am certainly crazy enough head up an Exploratory Committee. Who can host a wiki for it? Liz >> > > Hostess with the Mostest part 2.... Liz is already an experienced YAPC > hostess. You guys so need to put in a bid. Chicago.pm started late, > got the bid, and had a decent conference... if I can be allowed to say > that :) We survived :-) ] From drforr at pobox.com Fri Apr 6 21:42:19 2007 From: drforr at pobox.com (Jeffrey Goff) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:42:19 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <77500b3fbd7c784690db984946c1109c@mac.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

<49d805d70704061839w662824b8qa4c2923414f2502e@mail.gmail.com> <77500b3fbd7c784690db984946c1109c@mac.com> Message-ID: <3C8C8541-2F11-4EC3-966F-41278B5C0628@pobox.com> While YAPC's been traditionally East-coast as a counterpoint to OSCON, ya can't win the bid if you don't place one. If you need a hand, count me in. I haven't gotten around to setting up DNS for my local boxen, but if you need a place to host something let me know. On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:18 PM, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > I am certainly crazy enough head up an Exploratory Committee. Who can > host a wiki for it? > > Liz > >>> >> >> Hostess with the Mostest part 2.... Liz is already an experienced >> YAPC >> hostess. You guys so need to put in a bid. Chicago.pm started late, >> got the bid, and had a decent conference... if I can be allowed to >> say >> that :) > > We survived :-) > ] > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From hayter at usc.edu Fri Apr 6 22:12:35 2007 From: hayter at usc.edu (Carl Hayter) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:12:35 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <3C8C8541-2F11-4EC3-966F-41278B5C0628@pobox.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

<49d805d70704061839w662824b8qa4c2923414f2502e@mail.gmail.com> <77500b3fbd7c784690db984946c1109c@mac.com> <3C8C8541-2F11-4EC3-966F-41278B5C0628@pobox.com> Message-ID: <20070407051235.GB6385@usc.edu> ditto on hosting. i think YAPC is not-evil enough that i could manage a planning wiki, and with a bit of warning could probably host a *real* YAPC site on the near infinite .edu network.... and/or i have some unused dreamhost space that is doing nothing important. ---- Carl Hayter ITS - Data Network Operations University of Southrern California On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 09:42:19PM -0700, Jeffrey Goff wrote: > While YAPC's been traditionally East-coast as a counterpoint to > OSCON, ya can't win the bid if you don't place one. If you need a > hand, count me in. I haven't gotten around to setting up DNS for my > local boxen, but if you need a place to host something let me know. > > On Apr 6, 2007, at 9:18 PM, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > > > I am certainly crazy enough head up an Exploratory Committee. Who can > > host a wiki for it? > > > > Liz > > > >>> > >> > >> Hostess with the Mostest part 2.... Liz is already an experienced > >> YAPC > >> hostess. You guys so need to put in a bid. Chicago.pm started late, > >> got the bid, and had a decent conference... if I can be allowed to > >> say > >> that :) > > > > We survived :-) > > ] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Losangeles-pm mailing list > > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 185 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20070406/7546166f/attachment.bin From andy at petdance.com Fri Apr 6 23:09:59 2007 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 01:09:59 -0500 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008? In-Reply-To: <20070407051235.GB6385@usc.edu> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>

<49d805d70704061839w662824b8qa4c2923414f2502e@mail.gmail.com> <77500b3fbd7c784690db984946c1109c@mac.com> <3C8C8541-2F11-4EC3-966F-41278B5C0628@pobox.com> <20070407051235.GB6385@usc.edu> <27F6857F-CF5E-4370-A442-55298195029D@petdance.com> <1f47092942bedeaf080bbbdbe92e8d6a@mac.com> Message-ID: <3F3986AB-C619-46FF-AF0A-10BE6573B590@develooper.com> On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:32 AM, zrusilla at mac.com wrote: > Whoever puts up an Exploratory Committee Wiki and sends the address to > the list first wins a beer from me at the next meeting. http://www.socialtext.net/yapc/ - ask -- http://develooper.com/ - http://askask.com/ From geekhunter at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 08:16:34 2007 From: geekhunter at gmail.com (Todd Cranston-Cuebas) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:16:34 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? In-Reply-To: References: <693569.80866.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <803d9f750704090800u553ab554g70c3b081c3117206@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <803d9f750704100816s413cf108sd62bb9e20bc4f905@mail.gmail.com> > Thanks Howard for pointing out that I did not send my reply to the whole > group ;) See below for a quick update ;) In terms of my geekhunter site, it's off-line because I switched providers, etc. Hopefully, I'll have a blog up and running again soon. Please see below for some thoughts I had regarding moving forward with talks at the LA.pm. What do you think? > Yes, it's true! After 6 1/2 great years at Ticketmaster I decided it was > > time to try something new. I'm now doing my same basic job (recruiting!) > for > > Google in Santa Monica. I know that I've been a bit silent lately, but > > getting adjusted over the last few weeks has taken up most of my time. > It's > > a great place though and the work is really exciting. I hope you all > > understand that this transition is going to take most of my energy over > the > > next few months. Pablo has jumped into my shoes to run the last few > meeting > > which is _greatly_ appreciated. Actually, I don't have any new guest > > speakers scheduled at this point so this is a good time to open the > floor up > > to suggestions. > > > > During the SCALE conference there was a lot of talk about the creation > of a > > list of "hot topics" which local la.pm members volunteering to take on a > > topic and become the guinea pig for a talk. For instance, if Catalyst > was > > one of the topics, someone would raise their hand high, spend the next > month > > or so beating on it, and then present their findings to the group. It > could > > be a very interesting way of getting some unique insights. > > > > What do you think? If there is a generally positive response, the first > > thing to get done would be the creation of the "hot list." I'll start > off > > the list with... > > > > 1). Catalyst > > 2). Jifty > > 3). Parrot > > 4). The current "state" of Perl 6 > > > > Mind you, these are only suggestions... ;) > > > > Todd > > tcc at google.com > > 310-309-6812 > > > > On 4/6/07, Howard Siegel wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Mike MacKenzie wrote: > >> > >> >> --- Howard Siegel wrote: > >> >> > >> >> It would appear that he has jumped ship to work for Google. > >> >> > >> > > >> > I had heard that Google was not a big friend of Perl. Do you suppose > >> this > >> > signals a change in attitude there towards Perl? > >> > >> No clue. > >> > >> But I also note that Todd's Geekhunter blog appears to be offline as > well. > >> > >> - h > >> > >> -- > >> > >> hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP > Netcom! > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Losangeles-pm mailing list > >> Losangeles-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > >> > > > > -- > > hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP Netcom! > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20070410/b93112e0/attachment.html From zrusilla at mac.com Tue Apr 10 09:05:43 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:05:43 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? In-Reply-To: <803d9f750704100816s413cf108sd62bb9e20bc4f905@mail.gmail.com> References: <693569.80866.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <803d9f750704090800u553ab554g70c3b081c3117206@mail.gmail.com> <803d9f750704100816s413cf108sd62bb9e20bc4f905@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <328067AD-6AAC-4154-843E-C238F30E788E@mac.com> TODD BABY! Welcome back! From btilly at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 10:14:54 2007 From: btilly at gmail.com (Ben Tilly) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:14:54 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? In-Reply-To: <803d9f750704100816s413cf108sd62bb9e20bc4f905@mail.gmail.com> References: <693569.80866.qm@web52210.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <803d9f750704090800u553ab554g70c3b081c3117206@mail.gmail.com> <803d9f750704100816s413cf108sd62bb9e20bc4f905@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 4/10/07, Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote: > > > > Thanks Howard for pointing out that I did not send my reply to the whole > group ;) > > > See below for a quick update ;) In terms of my geekhunter site, it's > off-line because I switched providers, etc. Hopefully, I'll have a blog up > and running again soon. Please see below for some thoughts I had regarding > moving forward with talks at the LA.pm. What do you think? > > > > Yes, it's true! After 6 1/2 great years at Ticketmaster I decided it was > > > time to try something new. I'm now doing my same basic job (recruiting!) > for > > > Google in Santa Monica. I know that I've been a bit silent lately, but > > > getting adjusted over the last few weeks has taken up most of my time. > It's > > > a great place though and the work is really exciting. I hope you all > > > understand that this transition is going to take most of my energy over > the > > > next few months. Pablo has jumped into my shoes to run the last few > meeting > > > which is _greatly_ appreciated. Actually, I don't have any new guest > > > speakers scheduled at this point so this is a good time to open the > floor up > > > to suggestions. This explains why you didn't respond to my emailing you at ticketmaster to offer Rent.com's space for a technical presentation in Santa Monica. So if any guest speaker would prefer to present in Santa Monica, the option is on the table. I should note that, based on the previous turnout at a Santa Monica social meeting, there are a lot of people around who would like to go to Perl events who find it hard to get to Hollywood at rush hour. Cheers, Ben From nimish.parmar at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 12:32:11 2007 From: nimish.parmar at gmail.com (Nimish Parmar) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:32:11 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 45, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Todd.. great to hear from you!! Continuing the list of "hot topics"... 5) GoF Design Patterns - in Perl 6) OO Perl: The in's and out's - vanilla, as well as, with some CPAN toppings 7) mod_perl (ver. 1 and/or 2) 8) Webservices using Perl 9) Engineering and architecting large scale Perl software projects - what it takes and how to get there I'm very interested in spending some time mastering and then presenting either one of 5, 6, 7 or 8. Nimish On 4/10/07, losangeles-pm-request at pm.org wrote: > > Send Losangeles-pm mailing list submissions to > losangeles-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > losangeles-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > losangeles-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Losangeles-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: Re: Todd? (Todd Cranston-Cuebas) > 2. Re: Fwd: Re: Todd? (zrusilla at mac.com) > 3. Re: Fwd: Re: Todd? (Ben Tilly) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:16:34 -0700 > From: "Todd Cranston-Cuebas" > Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? > To: "Howard Siegel" , losangeles-pm at pm.org > Message-ID: > <803d9f750704100816s413cf108sd62bb9e20bc4f905 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Thanks Howard for pointing out that I did not send my reply to the whole > > group ;) > > > See below for a quick update ;) In terms of my geekhunter site, it's > off-line because I switched providers, etc. Hopefully, I'll have a blog up > and running again soon. Please see below for some thoughts I had regarding > moving forward with talks at the LA.pm. What do you think? > > > Yes, it's true! After 6 1/2 great years at Ticketmaster I decided it was > > > time to try something new. I'm now doing my same basic job > (recruiting!) > > for > > > Google in Santa Monica. I know that I've been a bit silent lately, but > > > getting adjusted over the last few weeks has taken up most of my time. > > It's > > > a great place though and the work is really exciting. I hope you all > > > understand that this transition is going to take most of my energy > over > > the > > > next few months. Pablo has jumped into my shoes to run the last few > > meeting > > > which is _greatly_ appreciated. Actually, I don't have any new guest > > > speakers scheduled at this point so this is a good time to open the > > floor up > > > to suggestions. > > > > > > During the SCALE conference there was a lot of talk about the creation > > of a > > > list of "hot topics" which local la.pm members volunteering to take on > a > > > topic and become the guinea pig for a talk. For instance, if Catalyst > > was > > > one of the topics, someone would raise their hand high, spend the next > > month > > > or so beating on it, and then present their findings to the group. It > > could > > > be a very interesting way of getting some unique insights. > > > > > > What do you think? If there is a generally positive response, the > first > > > thing to get done would be the creation of the "hot list." I'll start > > off > > > the list with... > > > > > > 1). Catalyst > > > 2). Jifty > > > 3). Parrot > > > 4). The current "state" of Perl 6 > > > > > > Mind you, these are only suggestions... ;) > > > > > > Todd > > > tcc at google.com > > > 310-309-6812 > > > > > > On 4/6/07, Howard Siegel wrote: > > >> > > >> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Mike MacKenzie wrote: > > >> > > >> >> --- Howard Siegel wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> It would appear that he has jumped ship to work for Google. > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > I had heard that Google was not a big friend of Perl. Do you > suppose > > >> this > > >> > signals a change in attitude there towards Perl? > > >> > > >> No clue. > > >> > > >> But I also note that Todd's Geekhunter blog appears to be offline as > > well. > > >> > > >> - h > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP > > Netcom! > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Losangeles-pm mailing list > > >> Losangeles-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > > > hsiegel~at~pobox~dot~com <*> LHT <*> Netcom Class of '93, RIP > Netcom! > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20070410/b93112e0/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 09:05:43 -0700 > From: zrusilla at mac.com > Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? > To: Todd Cranston-Cuebas > Cc: losangeles-pm at pm.org > Message-ID: <328067AD-6AAC-4154-843E-C238F30E788E at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > TODD BABY! Welcome back! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:14:54 -0700 > From: "Ben Tilly" > Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Fwd: Re: Todd? > To: "Todd Cranston-Cuebas" > Cc: losangeles-pm at pm.org, Howard Siegel > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 4/10/07, Todd Cranston-Cuebas wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks Howard for pointing out that I did not send my reply to the > whole > > group ;) > > > > > > See below for a quick update ;) In terms of my geekhunter site, it's > > off-line because I switched providers, etc. Hopefully, I'll have a blog > up > > and running again soon. Please see below for some thoughts I had > regarding > > moving forward with talks at the LA.pm. What do you think? > > > > > > Yes, it's true! After 6 1/2 great years at Ticketmaster I decided it > was > > > > time to try something new. I'm now doing my same basic job > (recruiting!) > > for > > > > Google in Santa Monica. I know that I've been a bit silent lately, > but > > > > getting adjusted over the last few weeks has taken up most of my > time. > > It's > > > > a great place though and the work is really exciting. I hope you all > > > > understand that this transition is going to take most of my energy > over > > the > > > > next few months. Pablo has jumped into my shoes to run the last few > > meeting > > > > which is _greatly_ appreciated. Actually, I don't have any new guest > > > > speakers scheduled at this point so this is a good time to open the > > floor up > > > > to suggestions. > > This explains why you didn't respond to my emailing you at > ticketmaster to offer Rent.com's space for a technical presentation in > Santa Monica. So if any guest speaker would prefer to present in > Santa Monica, the option is on the table. > > I should note that, based on the previous turnout at a Santa Monica > social meeting, there are a lot of people around who would like to go > to Perl events who find it hard to get to Hollywood at rush hour. > > Cheers, > Ben > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Losangeles-pm mailing list > Losangeles-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm > > End of Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 45, Issue 5 > ******************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20070410/7ac4527d/attachment.html From quinn at fairpath.com Tue Apr 10 12:44:17 2007 From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:44:17 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 45, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070410194417.GA52762@fu.funkspiel.org> Cross-posted to sanfranciso-pm at pm.org because the JSON part may be of general interest... On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:32:11PM -0700, Nimish Parmar wrote: > 5) GoF Design Patterns - in Perl Not always a good idea! See http://perl.plover.com/yak/design/ (If you found that discussion interesting, you should also check out and http://blog.plover.com/2006/09/11/ .) > 8) Webservices using Perl I did a presentation on this topic at SF.pm a couple of few years ago. If I'm ever in LA, I'm happy to visit you guys and present it. Take-home message: Don't use SOAP, because it's not interoperable, even among open-source implementations (e.g. Perl's SOAP::Lite and Apache Axis, a Java SOAP toolkit). With the rise of YAML, I think it's a reasonable serialization medium for RESTful web services. It's certainly easier to handle than XML. At one of my clients, we decided to use JSON for serialization (with JSON::XS). YAML is really a subset of JSON; see http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/yamlIsJson.html . By using JSON to represent data on the wire, we get to use the same code for AJAX calls and web services calls. Nice! -- Quinn Weaver, independent contractor | President, San Francisco Perl Mongers http://fairpath.com/quinn/resume/ | http://sf.pm.org/ From zrusilla at mac.com Tue Apr 10 18:21:14 2007 From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla at mac.com) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:21:14 -0700 Subject: [LA.pm] YAPC::LA 2008 Exploratory Committee In-Reply-To: <3F3986AB-C619-46FF-AF0A-10BE6573B590@develooper.com> References: <14d29b3aef8ac5e7d6558436241a363b@mac.com>