From rspier at pobox.com  Tue Dec  6 07:59:34 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 07:59:34 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] FW: [pm_groups] Perl Foundation BLog
References: <4395AF4F.6060309@dave.org.uk>
Message-ID: <m3ek4qkyhl.wl_rs@pobox.com>



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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:33:35 +0000
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Subject: [pm_groups] Perl Foundation BLog


The Perl Foundation has set up a blog so that its officers can 
communicate more easily with the rest of the Perl community.

It's at http://blog.perlfoundation.org/ and it has all the usual bloggy 
goodness (comments, trackbacks, rss, etc).

Please let you members know about it.

Dave...

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From alane at rgatech.com  Thu Dec 15 11:07:32 2005
From: alane at rgatech.com (Alan Elmont)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:07:32 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Job Posting
Message-ID: <004a01c601aa$cd2ffc60$c4689942@MAIN>

Work on "the world's most sophisticated online advertising
yield-optimization technology."  The technology combines sophisticated
statistical and predictive algorithms, demographic and geographic
segmentation, and performance tracking to optimize thousands of offers
every day on the top Internet ad networks.  The results have created
growth demands in their software development department.
Currently there is an acute need for a PERL developer to work on the
advertisement system and the web interfaces.  UI experience is desired.
Overall environment is Perl, SQL, Linux, JAVA.
Up to 3 additional positions are scheduled in January!!!!  
Westside location with salary up to $100,000 per year.
 
Interviews will be conducted NOW.no need to wait until next year.
 
Alan Elmont
 
RGA Associates, Inc.
400 Corporate Pointe, Suite 300
Culver City, CA 90230
Direct 310-862-5450
310-242-8413 Fax 310-242-8412
AlanE at rgatech.com 
 
 
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From rspier at pobox.com  Sat Dec 17 21:26:16 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:26:16 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Job Posting
In-Reply-To: <004a01c601aa$cd2ffc60$c4689942@MAIN>
References: <004a01c601aa$cd2ffc60$c4689942@MAIN>
Message-ID: <m33bkrf01z.wl_rs@pobox.com>



Alan, You posted this less than a month ago.  Please don't repeat post
the same job within such a short time frame.

Also, please learn how to capitalize Perl.

-R (who is tolerant of rare job postings, but there are much better
forums for such things)


At Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:07:32 -0800,
Alan Elmont wrote:
> 
> [1  <multipart/alternative (7bit)>]
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> Work on "the world's most sophisticated online advertising
> yield-optimization technology."  The technology combines sophisticated
> statistical and predictive algorithms, demographic and geographic
> segmentation, and performance tracking to optimize thousands of offers
> every day on the top Internet ad networks.  The results have created
> growth demands in their software development department.
> Currently there is an acute need for a PERL developer to work on the
> advertisement system and the web interfaces.  UI experience is desired.
> Overall environment is Perl, SQL, Linux, JAVA.
> Up to 3 additional positions are scheduled in January!!!!  
> Westside location with salary up to $100,000 per year.
>  
> Interviews will be conducted NOW.no need to wait until next year.
>  
> Alan Elmont
>  
> RGA Associates, Inc.
> 400 Corporate Pointe, Suite 300
> Culver City, CA 90230
> Direct 310-862-5450
> 310-242-8413 Fax 310-242-8412
> AlanE at rgatech.com 
>  
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From rspier at pobox.com  Sat Dec 17 21:35:45 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:35:45 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
Message-ID: <m31x0bezm6.wl_rs@pobox.com>


Hi Lapmers -


   I really meant to have a December meeting, but it just didn't
   happen, so, we're going to have one in January.

   What do people think of something like Wednesday the 4th?  Or
   should we delay until later in the month?

   I'm thinking we should do a dinner meeting (but try and have some
   technical content).  Location: "The West Side"  (Santa Monica,
   Westwood, Brentwood.)

   Anyone have restaurant suggestions?  Should be moderately priced
   and while I'm a big fan of "interesting cuisine" -- there needs to
   be at least something for our members with dietary restrictions or
   who just don't like odd things.
   
   In terms of technical content, I'd like to find someone to talk
   authoritatively for a few minutes about something perlish.  (Fodder
   includes the recent sprintf flaw stuff, Perl6, Parrot, or anything
   else nifty.)

   Other news: The Movable Type folks (SixApart) are interested in
   doing some sort of Movable Type related training/event.  MT is one
   of the most popular large-scale widely-deployed Perl applications
   today.  Ask is working on getting the details for this arranged.

-R

From e at arix.com  Sat Dec 17 21:46:20 2005
From: e at arix.com (Erick Calder)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:46:20 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m31x0bezm6.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <BFCA37AC.1130E%e@arix.com>

Wed won't work for me but Tue or Thu do.  I'd love to hear about Parrot
and/or Perl VI and will drive anywhere for the dinner.


> From: Robert Spier <rspier at pobox.com>
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:35:45 -0800
> To: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at mail.pm.org>
> Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
> 
> 
> Hi Lapmers -
> 
> 
>    I really meant to have a December meeting, but it just didn't
>    happen, so, we're going to have one in January.
> 
>    What do people think of something like Wednesday the 4th?  Or
>    should we delay until later in the month?
> 
>    I'm thinking we should do a dinner meeting (but try and have some
>    technical content).  Location: "The West Side"  (Santa Monica,
>    Westwood, Brentwood.)
> 
>    Anyone have restaurant suggestions?  Should be moderately priced
>    and while I'm a big fan of "interesting cuisine" -- there needs to
>    be at least something for our members with dietary restrictions or
>    who just don't like odd things.
>    
>    In terms of technical content, I'd like to find someone to talk
>    authoritatively for a few minutes about something perlish.  (Fodder
>    includes the recent sprintf flaw stuff, Perl6, Parrot, or anything
>    else nifty.)
> 
>    Other news: The Movable Type folks (SixApart) are interested in
>    doing some sort of Movable Type related training/event.  MT is one
>    of the most popular large-scale widely-deployed Perl applications
>    today.  Ask is working on getting the details for this arranged.
> 
> -R
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From fred.kleindenst at citigroup.com  Mon Dec 19 11:00:05 2005
From: fred.kleindenst at citigroup.com (Kleindenst, Fred)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:00:05 -0500
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
Message-ID: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>


Reasons Wednesday might be sub-optimal:
* There is a huge national championship college football game being
played in Pasadena that afternoon/evening.  Some might be watching,
traffic might be unusually heavy, or venues with TVs might be packed.
* I prefer Tuesday.

Cheers
--Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> losangeles-pm-bounces+fred.kleindenst=citigroup.com at pm.org 
> [mailto:losangeles-pm-bounces+fred.kleindenst=citigroup.com at pm
> .org] On Behalf Of Robert Spier
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:36 PM
> To: Los Angeles Perl Mongers
> Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
> 
> 
> Hi Lapmers -
> 
> 
>    I really meant to have a December meeting, but it just didn't
>    happen, so, we're going to have one in January.
> 
>    What do people think of something like Wednesday the 4th?  Or
>    should we delay until later in the month?
> 
>    I'm thinking we should do a dinner meeting (but try and have some
>    technical content).  Location: "The West Side"  (Santa Monica,
>    Westwood, Brentwood.)
> 
>    Anyone have restaurant suggestions?  Should be moderately priced
>    and while I'm a big fan of "interesting cuisine" -- there needs to
>    be at least something for our members with dietary restrictions or
>    who just don't like odd things.
>    
>    In terms of technical content, I'd like to find someone to talk
>    authoritatively for a few minutes about something perlish.  (Fodder
>    includes the recent sprintf flaw stuff, Perl6, Parrot, or anything
>    else nifty.)
> 
>    Other news: The Movable Type folks (SixApart) are interested in
>    doing some sort of Movable Type related training/event.  MT is one
>    of the most popular large-scale widely-deployed Perl applications
>    today.  Ask is working on getting the details for this arranged.
> 
> -R
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> Losangeles-pm at pm.org
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From arkadiy at arkadiy.com  Mon Dec 19 11:18:38 2005
From: arkadiy at arkadiy.com (Arkadiy)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:18:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m31x0bezm6.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20051219191838.59646.qmail@web305.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.japaneserestaurantinfo.com/yabu2/01.htm

Robert Spier <rspier at pobox.com> wrote:  
Hi Lapmers -


I really meant to have a December meeting, but it just didn't
happen, so, we're going to have one in January.

What do people think of something like Wednesday the 4th? Or
should we delay until later in the month?

I'm thinking we should do a dinner meeting (but try and have some
technical content). Location: "The West Side" (Santa Monica,
Westwood, Brentwood.)

Anyone have restaurant suggestions? Should be moderately priced
and while I'm a big fan of "interesting cuisine" -- there needs to
be at least something for our members with dietary restrictions or
who just don't like odd things.

In terms of technical content, I'd like to find someone to talk
authoritatively for a few minutes about something perlish. (Fodder
includes the recent sprintf flaw stuff, Perl6, Parrot, or anything
else nifty.)

Other news: The Movable Type folks (SixApart) are interested in
doing some sort of Movable Type related training/event. MT is one
of the most popular large-scale widely-deployed Perl applications
today. Ask is working on getting the details for this arranged.

-R
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From jamespitts at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 20 16:15:51 2005
From: jamespitts at yahoo.com (James Pitts)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:15:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m31x0bezm6.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>

Fellow Lapmers -

El Cholo is a great place for groups. There is a long table in a
somewhat private room that can be reserved.  
http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/157778/santa_monica_ca/el_cholo.html

Excellent food, but somewhat more expensive. We can order platter
dishes to save a bit.

There is also a large Italian place on Washington Blvd. near Marina Del
Rey. Good outdoor seating. I can't find the name, though.

As for the tech discussion, I'd definitely like to hear about anyone
who has used Memcached. This would be a good segue into future MT
presentations (as SixApart merged with the team behind LiveJournal).

- Jamie

--- Robert Spier <rspier at pobox.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi Lapmers -
> 
> 
>    I really meant to have a December meeting, but it just didn't
>    happen, so, we're going to have one in January.
> 


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From samy at samy.pl  Tue Dec 20 16:41:38 2005
From: samy at samy.pl (Samy Kamkar)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:41:38 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43A8A4C2.6010203@samy.pl>

C&O Trattoria, near the water? They always seem to have a lot of space 
and some good food. Another LAPM member introduced me to it...

James Pitts wrote:

>Fellow Lapmers -
>
>El Cholo is a great place for groups. There is a long table in a
>somewhat private room that can be reserved.  
>http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/157778/santa_monica_ca/el_cholo.html
>
>Excellent food, but somewhat more expensive. We can order platter
>dishes to save a bit.
>
>There is also a large Italian place on Washington Blvd. near Marina Del
>Rey. Good outdoor seating. I can't find the name, though.
>
>As for the tech discussion, I'd definitely like to hear about anyone
>who has used Memcached. This would be a good segue into future MT
>presentations (as SixApart merged with the team behind LiveJournal).
>
>- Jamie
>
>--- Robert Spier <rspier at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Lapmers -
>>
>>
>>   I really meant to have a December meeting, but it just didn't
>>   happen, so, we're going to have one in January.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
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From christopher.nielsen at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 16:56:30 2005
From: christopher.nielsen at gmail.com (Christopher Nielsen)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:56:30 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <m31x0bezm6.wl_rs@pobox.com>
	<20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e4ebd7b40512201656x4487d929p8fecf0216f156a09@mail.gmail.com>

> As for the tech discussion, I'd definitely like to hear about anyone
> who has used Memcached. This would be a good segue into future MT
> presentations (as SixApart merged with the team behind LiveJournal).

We use memcached from time to time where I work, although I'm isolated
from it a bit by some libararies.  I wouldn't mind discussing it for a
bit, and how it relates to Perl.

Chris

--
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From ask at develooper.com  Thu Dec 22 10:17:15 2005
From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:17:15 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CBA009E4-043B-423A-A2CB-20F3E640A16C@develooper.com>


On Dec 20, 2005, at 4:15 PM, James Pitts wrote:

> As for the tech discussion, I'd definitely like to hear about anyone
> who has used Memcached. This would be a good segue into future MT
> presentations (as SixApart merged with the team behind LiveJournal).

If we ever had a meeting somewhere with a projector again then I  
wouldn't mind doing my Real World Web Scalability talk; it has a  
slide on memcached too that I could expand to explain how it works.

	http://develooper.com/talks/rwws-oscon2005.pdf


  - ask

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From christopher.nielsen at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 10:55:54 2005
From: christopher.nielsen at gmail.com (Christopher Nielsen)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:55:54 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <CBA009E4-043B-423A-A2CB-20F3E640A16C@develooper.com>
References: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
	<CBA009E4-043B-423A-A2CB-20F3E640A16C@develooper.com>
Message-ID: <e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>

> If we ever had a meeting somewhere with a projector again then I
> wouldn't mind doing my Real World Web Scalability talk; it has a
> slide on memcached too that I could expand to explain how it works.

That sounds real interesting; it would be great to see that.

I wonder if there's anyone with some presentation space we could
borrow sometime that maybe has some nice places nearby to go for food
and frosty beverages afterward. ;)

From pablo at paeli.com  Thu Dec 22 12:09:14 2005
From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:09:14 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
	<CBA009E4-043B-423A-A2CB-20F3E640A16C@develooper.com>
	<e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200512221209.15011.pablo@paeli.com>

We could have it at Ticketmaster, they have a projector and a big conference 
room :-)  TM is located at 8800 Sunset blvd, west hollywood, ca.

I asked about it and it's officially approved if you guys want it. Just let me 
know so I can set things up. 

On Thursday 22 December 2005 10:55 am, Christopher Nielsen wrote:
> > If we ever had a meeting somewhere with a projector again then I
> > wouldn't mind doing my Real World Web Scalability talk; it has a
> > slide on memcached too that I could expand to explain how it works.
>
> That sounds real interesting; it would be great to see that.
>
> I wonder if there's anyone with some presentation space we could
> borrow sometime that maybe has some nice places nearby to go for food
> and frosty beverages afterward. ;)
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From jamespitts at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 22 12:35:34 2005
From: jamespitts at yahoo.com (James Pitts)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:35:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <43A8A4C2.6010203@samy.pl>
Message-ID: <20051222203534.28723.qmail@web50414.mail.yahoo.com>

Yes, I am pretty sure that this is the place. It looks a lot more
expensive in the photo than it was when I ate there :)

- James

--- Samy Kamkar <samy at samy.pl> wrote:

> C&O Trattoria, near the water? They always seem to have a lot of
> space 
> and some good food. Another LAPM member introduced me to it...
> 
> James Pitts wrote:
> 



	
		
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From terrymcintyre at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 22 12:55:41 2005
From: terrymcintyre at yahoo.com (terry mcintyre)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:55:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051222205541.31063.qmail@web30606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'll put in another vote for the Ticketmaster
screening room, which has been mentioned by several
other Perl Mongers. Located in West Hollywood at the
corner of Sunset and Horn, plenty of places nearby to
grab food and beverages afterward.

--- Christopher Nielsen
<christopher.nielsen at gmail.com> wrote:

> > If we ever had a meeting somewhere with a
> projector again then I
> > wouldn't mind doing my Real World Web Scalability
> talk; it has a
> > slide on memcached too that I could expand to
> explain how it works.
> 
> That sounds real interesting; it would be great to
> see that.
> 
> I wonder if there's anyone with some presentation
> space we could
> borrow sometime that maybe has some nice places
> nearby to go for food
> and frosty beverages afterward. ;)
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From rspier at pobox.com  Thu Dec 22 23:15:15 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:15:15 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
	<CBA009E4-043B-423A-A2CB-20F3E640A16C@develooper.com>
	<e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m3bqz89tdo.wl_rs@pobox.com>

> I wonder if there's anyone with some presentation space we could
> borrow sometime that maybe has some nice places nearby to go for food
> and frosty beverages afterward. ;)

Sydney.pm meets in the back room of a bar that has a projector.  The
best of both worlds!

-R

From Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at Ticketmaster.com  Fri Dec 23 09:54:07 2005
From: Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at Ticketmaster.com (Todd Cranston-Cuebas)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:54:07 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
Message-ID: <71D28C8451BFD5119B2B00508BE26E640BDBA458@pasmail3.office.tmcs>

Ticketmaster would be pleased to provide you with a room, projector, etc.,
but I'll have to have a confirmed date and time so I can book the resources
on our side.

Please just let me know if you want to use our facilities and I'll try and
pull things together on our side. Like most things, the faster we know, the
better :)

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: losangeles-pm-bounces+tcc=ticketmaster.com at pm.org 
> [mailto:losangeles-pm-bounces+tcc=ticketmaster.com at pm.org] On 
> Behalf Of Pablo Velasquez
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:09 PM
> To: losangeles-pm at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
> 
> We could have it at Ticketmaster, they have a projector and a 
> big conference room :-)  TM is located at 8800 Sunset blvd, 
> west hollywood, ca.
> 
> I asked about it and it's officially approved if you guys 
> want it. Just let me know so I can set things up. 
> 
> On Thursday 22 December 2005 10:55 am, Christopher Nielsen wrote:
> > > If we ever had a meeting somewhere with a projector again then I 
> > > wouldn't mind doing my Real World Web Scalability talk; it has a 
> > > slide on memcached too that I could expand to explain how 
> it works.
> >
> > That sounds real interesting; it would be great to see that.
> >
> > I wonder if there's anyone with some presentation space we could 
> > borrow sometime that maybe has some nice places nearby to 
> go for food 
> > and frosty beverages afterward. ;) 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Losangeles-pm mailing list
> > Losangeles-pm at pm.org
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From kevin+lapm at scaldeferri.com  Fri Dec 23 10:53:16 2005
From: kevin+lapm at scaldeferri.com (Kevin Scaldeferri)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:53:16 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m3bqz89tdo.wl_rs@pobox.com>
References: <20051221001551.32444.qmail@web50410.mail.yahoo.com>
	<CBA009E4-043B-423A-A2CB-20F3E640A16C@develooper.com>
	<e4ebd7b40512221055q1f6557c4sf8a9c4a68ceb62cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<m3bqz89tdo.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <08a6caf7091bee875b7f49950f3e1e55@scaldeferri.com>


On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:15 PM, Robert Spier wrote:

>> I wonder if there's anyone with some presentation space we could
>> borrow sometime that maybe has some nice places nearby to go for food
>> and frosty beverages afterward. ;)
>
> Sydney.pm meets in the back room of a bar that has a projector.  The
> best of both worlds!
>

...wonders if there's an outlet upstairs at Lucky Baldwins...


-kevin


From rspier at pobox.com  Fri Dec 23 21:48:09 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:48:09 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
Message-ID: <m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com>

> Reasons Wednesday might be sub-optimal:
> * There is a huge national championship college football game being
> played in Pasadena that afternoon/evening.  Some might be watching,
> traffic might be unusually heavy, or venues with TVs might be packed.
> * I prefer Tuesday.

Tuesday is going to be a mess, because it's the first day back to work
for most people.

But you're right, Wednesday will be bad.

So maybe Thursday.

-R (who will followup on other posts later)  (also, very tactful way
of understating the importance of the Rose Bowl to some in this city.)

From christopher.nielsen at gmail.com  Wed Dec 28 11:19:55 2005
From: christopher.nielsen at gmail.com (Christopher Nielsen)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:19:55 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006
Message-ID: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>

Hiya,

This announcement caught my eye, and I thought I would pass it along. 
Apparently, the author of Higher Order Perl, and an outspoken member
in the Perl community, Mark Jason Dominus, is putting together a
speaking schedule for 2006.

I really enjoyed his book, and I've heard from people in ny.pm and
phila.pm that Mark's talks are pretty engaging and fun.  I wonder what
people think about inviting MJD out here to speak?

Or how he feels about being enticed away from his native PA for the
palm tree shaded sunshine of Los Angeles sometime this winter maybe :)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mark Dominus <mjd-lists-nypm+ at plover.com>
Date: Dec 13, 2005 5:23 PM
Subject: Please help me with my new book!
To: ny at lists.pm.org



Dear New York Perl Mongers,

I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007.   It's
about code review and refactoring in Perl.  (For more complete
information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ .)

To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other people
wrote.  I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book
what I did and why.

I have about half the examples that I need.  I hope that the Perl
community can provide the other half.

For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl Mongers
groups about this.  I'd like to give about one talk each month for the
rest of the year.

What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come speak,
and that some of the group members will send me some example code
ahead of time.  Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about
how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and give
the talk.  After I go home again, I'l' write up a book chapter about
the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I
gave the talk.

(Of course, you can also send code even if you're not part of a Perl
Mongers group or if I can't visit your group.  The more contributions,
the better.)

Guidelines for code contributions are at

        http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html

To contribute, send code to:

        mjd at plover.com

Questions?   Send them to:

        mjd at plover.com

Want to invite me to speak to your group?  Invitations to:

        mjd at plover.com

You get the picture.

Thanks.





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From clay at panix.com  Wed Dec 28 12:05:10 2005
From: clay at panix.com (Clay Irving)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:05:10 -0500
Subject: [LA.pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006
In-Reply-To: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051228200510.GA29778@panix.com>

On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 11:19:55AM -0800, Christopher Nielsen wrote:

> Or how he feels about being enticed away from his native PA for the
> palm tree shaded sunshine of Los Angeles sometime this winter maybe :)

Which Los Angeles is that? I haven't seen the sun in ages. 

-- 
Clay Irving <clay at panix.com>
Commandment Number One of any truly civilized society is this: Let people
be different. 
- David Grayson 

From rower at movieeditor.com  Wed Dec 28 16:04:56 2005
From: rower at movieeditor.com (Robin Rowe)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:04:56 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>

 > So maybe Thursday.

Is there a date set yet? At Ticketmaster?

Robin
--
www.LinuxMovies.org

From rspier at pobox.com  Wed Dec 28 23:06:52 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:06:52 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006
In-Reply-To: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m3fyocidpv.wl_rs@pobox.com>


I would do this in a heartbeat.  MJD is a friend of mine.  I will drop
him a note to find out what we need to do to make this happen.

-R


At Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:19:55 -0800,
Christopher Nielsen wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> This announcement caught my eye, and I thought I would pass it along. 
> Apparently, the author of Higher Order Perl, and an outspoken member
> in the Perl community, Mark Jason Dominus, is putting together a
> speaking schedule for 2006.
> 
> I really enjoyed his book, and I've heard from people in ny.pm and
> phila.pm that Mark's talks are pretty engaging and fun.  I wonder what
> people think about inviting MJD out here to speak?
> 
> Or how he feels about being enticed away from his native PA for the
> palm tree shaded sunshine of Los Angeles sometime this winter maybe :)
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mark Dominus <mjd-lists-nypm+ at plover.com>
> Date: Dec 13, 2005 5:23 PM
> Subject: Please help me with my new book!
> To: ny at lists.pm.org
> 
> 
> 
> Dear New York Perl Mongers,
> 
> I'm writing a new book, which I hope will be published in 2007.   It's
> about code review and refactoring in Perl.  (For more complete
> information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ .)
> 
> To do this right, I need real examples of real code that other people
> wrote.  I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book
> what I did and why.
> 
> I have about half the examples that I need.  I hope that the Perl
> community can provide the other half.
> 
> For the next year, I'll be travelling around speaking to Perl Mongers
> groups about this.  I'd like to give about one talk each month for the
> rest of the year.
> 
> What I hope will happen is that a group will invite me to come speak,
> and that some of the group members will send me some example code
> ahead of time.  Then I'll read over the code, write up a talk about
> how I think it could be improved, and come visit the group and give
> the talk.  After I go home again, I'l' write up a book chapter about
> the code, incorporating the points that the PM group raised when I
> gave the talk.
> 
> (Of course, you can also send code even if you're not part of a Perl
> Mongers group or if I can't visit your group.  The more contributions,
> the better.)
> 
> Guidelines for code contributions are at
> 
>         http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html
> 
> To contribute, send code to:
> 
>         mjd at plover.com
> 
> Questions?   Send them to:
> 
>         mjd at plover.com
> 
> Want to invite me to speak to your group?  Invitations to:
> 
>         mjd at plover.com
> 
> You get the picture.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From andy at petdance.com  Wed Dec 28 23:10:12 2005
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:10:12 -0600
Subject: [LA.pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006
In-Reply-To: <m3fyocidpv.wl_rs@pobox.com>
References: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
	<m3fyocidpv.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <899E6042-9425-4964-AEA3-76797B29603E@petdance.com>


On Dec 29, 2005, at 1:06 AM, Robert Spier wrote:

>
> I would do this in a heartbeat.  MJD is a friend of mine.  I will drop
> him a note to find out what we need to do to make this happen.

He's doing Chicago in February!  Come on out and freeze w/us!

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance




From rspier at pobox.com  Wed Dec 28 23:29:49 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:29:49 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
Message-ID: <m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>

>  > So maybe Thursday.
> Is there a date set yet? At Ticketmaster?

When:

Either 

    Thursday 1/6
    Tuesday 1/11
    Wed 1/12

    (three days, three different days of week.)

Vote now!


Where:

(We're going to save Ticketmaster for the next, more technical
meeting.  This is the "ring in the new year" meeting.)

Possible Locations:

El Cholo -
    http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=116293140

Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -
    http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499

Amici Mare -
    http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100179641

C&O Trattoria -
    http://www.cotrattoria.com

Vote now!

(other options still accepted.)

-R




From kevin+lapm at scaldeferri.com  Wed Dec 28 23:56:18 2005
From: kevin+lapm at scaldeferri.com (Kevin Scaldeferri)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:56:18 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
	<m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <2118668b13eb5b3042d337324a43079e@scaldeferri.com>

I vote

>     Wed 1/12
>

and

> Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -
>     http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499
>

-kevin


From rower at movieeditor.com  Thu Dec 29 02:45:58 2005
From: rower at movieeditor.com (Robin Rowe)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:45:58 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com>
	<43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com> <m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <43B3BE66.6010009@movieeditor.com>

Robert,

> Either 
> 
>     Thursday 1/6
>     Tuesday 1/11
>     Wed 1/12

You must be a programmer. All your dates are off by one! ;-)

Clearly, I would vote against Wed 1.11.06 because that's the night 
LinuxMovies.org meets in Hollywood which I lead.

> (We're going to save Ticketmaster for the next, more technical
> meeting.  This is the "ring in the new year" meeting.)
> 
> Possible Locations....

All your proposed locations are restaurants around Santa Monica. 
Ticketmaster appealed because it's close for me in Hollywood.

Who is presenting at your meeting? Doesn't when a speaker is available 
set when the date would be? Speaking of date, why does the la.pm.org 
website say the next meeting is Sept 15, 2005?

Robin

From rspier at pobox.com  Thu Dec 29 08:36:25 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:36:25 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <43B3BE66.6010009@movieeditor.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
	<m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B3BE66.6010009@movieeditor.com>
Message-ID: <m38xu3j1x2.wl_rs@pobox.com>

> >     Thursday 1/6
> >     Tuesday 1/11
> >     Wed 1/12
> 
> You must be a programmer. All your dates are off by one! ;-)

Is it that obvious.

*cough*

Thursday 1/5
Tuesday 1/10
Wednesday 1/11

(giving us three different days of the week as options.  If I through
Thursday 1/12 into the mix, things will just get confusing.)

> Clearly, I would vote against Wed 1.11.06 because that's the night 
> LinuxMovies.org meets in Hollywood which I lead.

I always meant to attend one of those meetings when I worked in the
budding Linux movie industry.

> > Possible Locations....
> 
> All your proposed locations are restaurants around Santa Monica. 
> Ticketmaster appealed because it's close for me in Hollywood.

Because LA is so big, we rotate locations.  It's easier to just
arbitrarily pick a location for a particular meeting, and find
restaurants in that area.  (Otherwise, the restaurant pool is just too
big.) 

Our next meeting is currently (tentatively) scheduled to be at
Ticketmaster.

> Who is presenting at your meeting? Doesn't when a speaker is available 
> set when the date would be? Speaking of date, why does the la.pm.org 
> website say the next meeting is Sept 15, 2005?

This meeting is considered a social meeting with mild technical
content. (mild?  that's really not a great word.)  Christopher Nielsen
has volunteered to talk a little about how memcached and perl get
along.  Ask will chip in.  I'll bring the usual "general overview of
the perl world" stuff.  We may have a book or two to give away.

Next meeting will be more technical, and held in the beautiful
ticketmaster facility.

-R

From rspier at pobox.com  Thu Dec 29 08:37:38 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:37:38 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <2118668b13eb5b3042d337324a43079e@scaldeferri.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
	<m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
	<2118668b13eb5b3042d337324a43079e@scaldeferri.com>
Message-ID: <m37j9nj1v1.wl_rs@pobox.com>

> 
> I vote
> 
> >     Wed 1/12

Please verify with the right date.

    January 2006
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14


(my goof!)


-R

From dpisoni at shopzilla.com  Thu Dec 29 08:52:03 2005
From: dpisoni at shopzilla.com (David Pisoni)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:52:03 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <2118668b13eb5b3042d337324a43079e@scaldeferri.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
	<m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
	<2118668b13eb5b3042d337324a43079e@scaldeferri.com>
Message-ID: <BB51A569-6526-40BD-BEBF-56CB40A21124@shopzilla.com>


My vote:

>     Wed 1/11

and

> Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -
>     http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499
>

or El Cholo, though I haven't been to Kay n' Dave's for ages so I  
should stick with that.

Thanks,
David


From kevin+lapm at scaldeferri.com  Thu Dec 29 09:25:13 2005
From: kevin+lapm at scaldeferri.com (Kevin Scaldeferri)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:25:13 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m37j9nj1v1.wl_rs@pobox.com>
References: <1E6014B28FEE6F43A5F49C6628B7B85E05E96C94@EXNJMB11.nam.nsroot.net>
	<m37j9v82qu.wl_rs@pobox.com> <43B32828.2020201@movieeditor.com>
	<m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
	<2118668b13eb5b3042d337324a43079e@scaldeferri.com>
	<m37j9nj1v1.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <1fc6bc3697f54cba22f05db36569d172@scaldeferri.com>


On Dec 29, 2005, at 8:37 AM, Robert Spier wrote:

>>
>> I vote
>>
>>>     Wed 1/12
>
> Please verify with the right date.
>

Weds 1/11


From mikeaccardo at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 29 09:33:34 2005
From: mikeaccardo at yahoo.com (Michael Accardo)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:33:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20051229173334.9043.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com>

I vote for Thursday 1/6. And I think it should be at
TicketMaster.



		
__________________________________________ 
Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. 
Just $16.99/mo. or less. 
dsl.yahoo.com 


From ben_tilly at operamail.com  Thu Dec 29 11:53:21 2005
From: ben_tilly at operamail.com (Benjamin J. Tilly)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:53:21 +0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
Message-ID: <20051229195321.EEAA33AA515@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com>

"Robert Spier" <rspier at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> >  > So maybe Thursday.
> > Is there a date set yet? At Ticketmaster?
> 
> When:
> 
> Either
> 
>      Thursday 1/6
>      Tuesday 1/11
>      Wed 1/12
> 
>      (three days, three different days of week.)
> 
> Vote now!
> 
I vote for Tues, 1/10.  (Wed is when we tend to push to production, and Thu is the fallback night to push.)
> 
> Where:
> 
> (We're going to save Ticketmaster for the next, more technical
> meeting.  This is the "ring in the new year" meeting.)
> 
> Possible Locations:
> 
> El Cholo -
>      http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=116293140
> 
> Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -
>      http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499
> 
> Amici Mare -
>      http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100179641

This sounds best to me.

> C&O Trattoria -
>      http://www.cotrattoria.com
> 
Cheers,
Ben

From pablo at paeli.com  Thu Dec 29 13:24:56 2005
From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:24:56 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Feb technical talk meeting
In-Reply-To: <20051229195321.EEAA33AA515@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com>
References: <20051229195321.EEAA33AA515@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <200512291324.56161.pablo@paeli.com>

If it's alright, I was wondering about setting a date for the technical talk 
(not the informal meeting discussed below) are there any dates proposed? 
Maybe in February?

How about Feb 7, 2006 at 7:30pm? That's a Tuesday.

I spoke with Todd C-C and he mentioned that for the technical talk at this 
point 3 things need to happen:

1. the LA.pm group has to pick a date for the technical talk
2. TM has to see about getting the screening room (since TM has to pay for it, 
get the projector or rent one, and other companies also rent it, so there's a 
schedule)
3. Ask B./Movable Type needs to see if they can make that date to give the 
talk.

Not meaning to speak for Todd or others just gathering the information :-)

How many people are likely to attend this talk? If it's above 30 then we need 
to get the screening room, if below, then we can just get a big conference 
room and it's easier to arrange.

-Pablo


On Thursday 29 December 2005 11:53 am, Benjamin J. Tilly wrote:
> "Robert Spier" <rspier at pobox.com> wrote:
> > >  > So maybe Thursday.
> > >
> > > Is there a date set yet? At Ticketmaster?
> >
> > When:
> >
> > Either
> >
> >      Thursday 1/6
> >      Tuesday 1/11
> >      Wed 1/12
> >
> >      (three days, three different days of week.)
> >
> > Vote now!
>
> I vote for Tues, 1/10.  (Wed is when we tend to push to production, and Thu
> is the fallback night to push.)
>
> > Where:
> >
> > (We're going to save Ticketmaster for the next, more technical
> > meeting.  This is the "ring in the new year" meeting.)
> >
> > Possible Locations:
> >
> > El Cholo -
> >      http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=116293140
> >
> > Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -
> >      http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499
> >
> > Amici Mare -
> >      http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100179641
>
> This sounds best to me.
>
> > C&O Trattoria -
> >      http://www.cotrattoria.com
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
> _______________________________________________
> Losangeles-pm mailing list
> Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm


From pablo at paeli.com  Thu Dec 29 13:31:24 2005
From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:31:24 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] technical talk recurring schedule
In-Reply-To: <20051229173334.9043.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051229173334.9043.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200512291331.24530.pablo@paeli.com>

While I'm at it, I wanted to bring up another question. For the technical 
talks can we pick one place and have them every month (every 2 months) 
consistently. I've heard that this works well for other groups. When I was at 
Phoenix.pm that seemed to work well. 

I know TM isn't centrally located but I bet they'd be willing to house the 
technical meetings every month if we came up with a recurring schedule.

Not sure if this has been tried before or people don't like the idea of having 
a set meeting every month. On the other hand it sounds like a good thing to 
me, just so we all know when the meeting is and where it is every month. It's 
easier to plan to be there.

So here's the proposal, how about 1st Tuesday of every month. Or every other 
month, so one month is the "informal hangin' out" meeting. 

What do you guys think? I'm home sick today so I have a lot of time on my 
hands, in case you're wondering what's up with all of these e-mails :-)

-Pablo


From ask at develooper.com  Thu Dec 29 14:03:25 2005
From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:03:25 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] technical talk recurring schedule
In-Reply-To: <200512291331.24530.pablo@paeli.com>
References: <20051229173334.9043.qmail@web50910.mail.yahoo.com>
	<200512291331.24530.pablo@paeli.com>
Message-ID: <2282875C-DE5C-4016-9E85-CF411CA8D844@develooper.com>


On Dec 29, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Pablo Velasquez wrote:

> Not sure if this has been tried before or people don't like the  
> idea of having
> a set meeting every month. On the other hand it sounds like a good  
> thing to
> me, just so we all know when the meeting is and where it is every  
> month. It's
> easier to plan to be there.

We are just missing someone to consistently organize it every (other)  
month (get a speaker, send out emails, coordinate the location,  
promote it on various local lists etc).


  - ask

-- 
http://askask.com/  - http://develooper.com/


From arkadiy at arkadiy.com  Thu Dec 29 15:26:04 2005
From: arkadiy at arkadiy.com (Arkadiy)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:26:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] technical talk recurring schedule
In-Reply-To: <2282875C-DE5C-4016-9E85-CF411CA8D844@develooper.com>
Message-ID: <20051229232604.99932.qmail@web304.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

TO.pm had a regular thing.

I am perfectly fine with LA.pm's way of doing it.

--- Ask Bj?rn Hansen <ask at develooper.com> wrote:

> 
> On Dec 29, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Pablo Velasquez wrote:
> 
> > Not sure if this has been tried before or people
> don't like the  
> > idea of having
> > a set meeting every month. On the other hand it
> sounds like a good  
> > thing to
> > me, just so we all know when the meeting is and
> where it is every  
> > month. It's
> > easier to plan to be there.
> 
> We are just missing someone to consistently organize
> it every (other)  
> month (get a speaker, send out emails, coordinate
> the location,  
> promote it on various local lists etc).
> 
> 
>   - ask
> 
> -- 
> http://askask.com/  - http://develooper.com/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Losangeles-pm mailing list
> Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm
> 


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From: boss at topfunky.com (Geoffrey Grosenbach)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:47:57 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Ruby on Rails Workshop
Message-ID: <9F9878FD-E3D1-4F69-A82F-0CC3885EBFA0@topfunky.com>


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From pablo at paeli.com  Thu Dec 29 17:15:10 2005
From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:15:10 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  technical talk recurring schedule
In-Reply-To: <20051229232604.99932.qmail@web304.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20051229232604.99932.qmail@web304.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200512291715.10375.pablo@paeli.com>

Do you want to try the recurring meeting and see how it goes? If it's a pain 
and people end up not liking it, we can always go back to the flexible 
schedule. This is for the technical meeting only, the other one can still be 
in different places. 




On Thursday 29 December 2005 3:26 pm, Arkadiy wrote:
> TO.pm had a regular thing.
>
> I am perfectly fine with LA.pm's way of doing it.
>
> --- Ask Bj?rn Hansen <ask at develooper.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 29, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Pablo Velasquez wrote:
> > > Not sure if this has been tried before or people
> >
> > don't like the
> >
> > > idea of having
> > > a set meeting every month. On the other hand it
> >
> > sounds like a good
> >
> > > thing to
> > > me, just so we all know when the meeting is and
> >
> > where it is every
> >
> > > month. It's
> > > easier to plan to be there.
> >
> > We are just missing someone to consistently organize
> > it every (other)
> > month (get a speaker, send out emails, coordinate
> > the location,
> > promote it on various local lists etc).
> >
> >
> >   - ask
> >
> > --
> > http://askask.com/  - http://develooper.com/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Losangeles-pm mailing list
> > Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
> Losangeles-pm mailing list
> Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm


From Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at Ticketmaster.com  Thu Dec 29 17:35:15 2005
From: Todd.Cranston-Cuebas at Ticketmaster.com (Todd Cranston-Cuebas)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:35:15 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  technical talk recurring schedule
Message-ID: <71D28C8451BFD5119B2B00508BE26E640BDBA4A6@pasmail3.office.tmcs>

Pablo,

I also feel that it would be far easier from a scheduling perspective to
have a standard meeting time especially for the tech meetings when we'll
have to orchestrate speakers and locations. It makes it much easier to tell
a potential speaker, "Well if you can't make it this month, then when would
be better for you? We meet the first X of every month, etc." It would be
just too hard to nail down rooms and people if things are totally
open-ended.

I have volunteered to schedule the meetings, the locations, speakers (with
input from Ask, Rob, etc.). I'll take on the orchestration and coordination
side of things including sending fancy Evite invitations so we can track
who's coming and not, polls for best locations, etc. Let's plan that I'll
start working on this as soon as the 1st of the year hits.

BTW: If there are guest speakers that you'd love to hear, let me know and
I'll do what I can to make it happen. If there are specific topics that
you'd like to have covered, let me know that too and I'll try to match a
guest speaker to the topic.

Todd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: losangeles-pm-bounces at pm.org 
> [mailto:losangeles-pm-bounces at pm.org] On Behalf Of Pablo Velasquez
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:15 PM
> To: losangeles-pm at pm.org
> Cc: Ask Bj?rn Hansen; Arkadiy
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] SPAM-LOW: Re: technical talk recurring schedule
> 
> Do you want to try the recurring meeting and see how it goes? 
> If it's a pain and people end up not liking it, we can always 
> go back to the flexible schedule. This is for the technical 
> meeting only, the other one can still be in different places. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday 29 December 2005 3:26 pm, Arkadiy wrote:
> > TO.pm had a regular thing.
> >
> > I am perfectly fine with LA.pm's way of doing it.
> >
> > --- Ask Bj?rn Hansen <ask at develooper.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 29, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Pablo Velasquez wrote:
> > > > Not sure if this has been tried before or people
> > >
> > > don't like the
> > >
> > > > idea of having
> > > > a set meeting every month. On the other hand it
> > >
> > > sounds like a good
> > >
> > > > thing to
> > > > me, just so we all know when the meeting is and
> > >
> > > where it is every
> > >
> > > > month. It's
> > > > easier to plan to be there.
> > >
> > > We are just missing someone to consistently organize it every 
> > > (other) month (get a speaker, send out emails, coordinate the 
> > > location, promote it on various local lists etc).
> > >
> > >
> > >   - ask
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://askask.com/  - http://develooper.com/
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Losangeles-pm mailing list
> > > Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Losangeles-pm mailing list
> > Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Losangeles-pm mailing list
> Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm
> 

From rspier at pobox.com  Thu Dec 29 19:35:47 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:35:47 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] SPAM-LOW:  Re:  technical talk recurring schedule
In-Reply-To: <71D28C8451BFD5119B2B00508BE26E640BDBA4A6@pasmail3.office.tmcs>
References: <71D28C8451BFD5119B2B00508BE26E640BDBA4A6@pasmail3.office.tmcs>
Message-ID: <m3wthngsto.wl_rs@pobox.com>

> I have volunteered to schedule the meetings, the locations, speakers (with
> input from Ask, Rob, etc.). I'll take on the orchestration and coordination
> side of things including sending fancy Evite invitations so we can track
> who's coming and not, polls for best locations, etc. Let's plan that I'll
> start working on this as soon as the 1st of the year hits.

I want to thank Todd for taking this on.  As part of his work at TM,
he's in touch with all sorts of interesting Perl people, and I expect
he'll do a wonderful job of getting us to a point where we have
more-regular technical meetings.

-R

From rspier at pobox.com  Thu Dec 29 19:39:31 2005
From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:39:31 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] MJD and Red Flags 2006
In-Reply-To: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e4ebd7b40512281119h1d2cdd93j68768e9b929c7091@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m3vex7gsng.wl_rs@pobox.com>


Mark has said that he'd love to come out and present to us, but in
order to do that, he needs us to provide him with information.

He said:

I need LA.pm'ers to send me code samples that I can write a talk
about.  I need to have something suitable at least a month ahead of
time.  Here's the curent explanation of what I need:

        http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html



You'll have a few months to send this to him, but I'm sure he can use
anything you provide sooner.  So don't hesitate!

-R

From e at arix.com  Thu Dec 29 19:56:18 2005
From: e at arix.com (Erick Calder)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:56:18 -0800
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <m3ek3wicnm.wl_rs@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <BFD9EFE2.11AC7%e@arix.com>

>     Thursday 1/6
>     Tuesday 1/11

either will work for me

> Amici Mare -
> C&O Trattoria -

ditto

> From: Robert Spier <rspier at pobox.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:29:49 -0800
> Cc: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at mail.pm.org>
> Subject: Re: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
> 
>>> So maybe Thursday.
>> Is there a date set yet? At Ticketmaster?
> 
> When:
> 
> Either 
> 
>     Thursday 1/6
>     Tuesday 1/11
>     Wed 1/12
> 
>     (three days, three different days of week.)
> 
> Vote now!
> 
> 
> Where:
> 
> (We're going to save Ticketmaster for the next, more technical
> meeting.  This is the "ring in the new year" meeting.)
> 
> Possible Locations:
> 
> El Cholo -
>     http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=116293140
> 
> Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -
>     http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499
> 
> Amici Mare -
>     http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100179641
> 
> C&O Trattoria -
>     http://www.cotrattoria.com
> 
> Vote now!
> 
> (other options still accepted.)
> 
> -R
> 
> 
> 
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> Losangeles-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm



From marcoapalma at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 30 06:59:33 2005
From: marcoapalma at yahoo.com (Marco Palma)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:59:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [LA.pm] Jan meeting and other updates
In-Reply-To: <20051229195321.EEAA33AA515@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com>
Message-ID: <20051230145933.97865.qmail@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'd vote for Thursday, 1/5 at 

Kay 'n Dave's Cantina -  
http://cityguide.aol.com/losangeles/dining/venue.adp?id=100174499



	
		
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