From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Mon Mar 1 17:31:33 2004 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:56 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] visiting LA In-Reply-To: References: <20040301023606.D7F8E57C004@ws5-4.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <20040301233133.GM7560@darkuncle.net> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:13:56PM -0800, rspier@pobox.com said: [snip] > We could also do something like order pizza (from a good place like > Vito's http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/56961) and have it > delivered... but that can be a logistical mess too. PIZZA!!! we can collect cash from everybody at the start of the talk, do a quick poll on what toppings folks like, and then make the order. Should be able to get it to us by an hour later ... Tuesday is cool with me, definitely should have food involved at some point. -- Scott Francis | darkuncle(at)darkuncle(dot)net | 0x5537F527 Less and less is done until non-action is achieved when nothing is done, nothing is left undone. -- the Tao of Sysadmin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20040301/bc6f339c/attachment.bin From arkadiy at arkadiy.com Mon Mar 1 17:56:55 2004 From: arkadiy at arkadiy.com (Arkadiy) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:56 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] visiting LA In-Reply-To: <20040301233133.GM7560@darkuncle.net> Message-ID: <008401c3ffe8$e0285120$0100a8c0@asudarikov> That's like LA.pm's second meeting ever. :) -----Original Message----- From: losangeles-pm-bounces@mail.pm.org [mailto:losangeles-pm-bounces@mail.pm.org] On Behalf Of Scott Francis Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:32 PM To: Robert Spier Cc: losangeles-pm@mail.pm.org Subject: Re: [LA.pm] visiting LA On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:13:56PM -0800, rspier@pobox.com said: [snip] > We could also do something like order pizza (from a good place like > Vito's http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/56961) and have it > delivered... but that can be a logistical mess too. PIZZA!!! we can collect cash from everybody at the start of the talk, do a quick poll on what toppings folks like, and then make the order. Should be able to get it to us by an hour later ... Tuesday is cool with me, definitely should have food involved at some point. -- Scott Francis | darkuncle(at)darkuncle(dot)net | 0x5537F527 Less and less is done until non-action is achieved when nothing is done, nothing is left undone. -- the Tao of Sysadmin From pablo at paeli.com Wed Mar 3 13:35:30 2004 From: pablo at paeli.com (Pablo Velasquez) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:56 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] sort of perl related Message-ID: <200403031135.30738.pablo@paeli.com> I know this isn't exactly Perl related but I gather some of us are Linux fans :-) It's an article on SCO and what it's costing them to go after everyone. http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2004/mft04030310.htm -Pablo From rspier at pobox.com Wed Mar 3 19:07:21 2004 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:56 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] EVENT: March 9th - Why modperl2 sucks/rules In-Reply-To: <008401c3ffe8$e0285120$0100a8c0@asudarikov> References: <20040301233133.GM7560@darkuncle.net> <008401c3ffe8$e0285120$0100a8c0@asudarikov> Message-ID: As usual, there has not been the avalanche of feedback....................... so.... my current thoughts (still subject to change.) Citysearch (Western and Wilshire) 7pm - Geoff gives his talk - maybe: order pizza from Vito's http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/56961 or zpizza http://zpizza.com/ but, the logistics of this kind of thing gets very difficult when people may be arriving late, and you're not really sure how many people to order for, etc... - maybe: after the talk go to a local restaurant.. this would probably be around 8pm.. http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/5062 http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/5102 http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/40115506 Should we have some sort of anonymous voting site for this kind of stuff? :) -R From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Wed Mar 3 19:41:29 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] EVENT: March 9th - Why modperl2 sucks/rules In-Reply-To: References: <20040301233133.GM7560@darkuncle.net> <008401c3ffe8$e0285120$0100a8c0@asudarikov> Message-ID: <40468949.9050609@modperlcookbook.org> > - maybe: after the talk go to a local restaurant.. this would > probably be around 8pm.. that's about right, assuming we start on time - the talk is 50 minutes or so. but these things tend to get started late as people wander in. > http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/5102 can't get stuff like that in philly :) --Geoff From rspier at pobox.com Sun Mar 7 22:41:53 2004 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] EVENT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules Message-ID: Los Angeles Perl Mongers March 2004 Technical Talk Tuesday, March 9th, 2004 7:00 pm Why mod_perl 2.0 rules -- Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks by Geoffrey Young co-author of mod_perl Developer's Cookbook http://modperlcookbook.org Have you tried working with mod_perl 2.0 yet? Ugh. With all those new classes and directives to learn, not to mention the list of incomplete features, you might as well stay with the trusty, stable mod_perl of old. And subroutine attributes? Eesh. Of course, the new 2.0 API does let you do fun stuff like write output filters. Oh, and there's the Apache::Test framework that's pretty cool. Not to mention a method called assbackwards(). This brief, fun talk will introduce mod_perl 2.0 by poking fun at its shortcomings as well as showcasing its promise. 3731 Wilshire Blvd (Western and Wilshire) Los Angeles, CA 90010 Citysearch.com 2nd floor conference room to be followed by dinner either pizza (delivered) or Oaxacan at Guelaguetza http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/5102 which is a five minute walk away Important Details: Parking- On-street parking is hard to find in the area, but you might find something on one of the side-streets. The easiest lot is the one under the golf range, just south of Wilshire on Serrano Ave. The building is a half block from the Western and Wilshire Red-Line Metro station. (http://metro.net) Accessing the Building- I'm pretty sure you should be able to just walk into the building, If you have to sign in, just put down 'la.pm'. If the guard cares, you're going up to Citysearch. It's got a Washington Mutual Bank on the ground floor. (Don't go into the bank!) Head into the lobby, into the Elevator and press 2. Once on the third floor, the door to the office will probably be closed, but there will be a sign pointing to a doorbell, and someone will open the door. Any questions? -R From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Mon Mar 8 11:46:26 2004 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] EVENT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040308174626.GD29304@darkuncle.net> On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 08:41:53PM -0800, rspier@pobox.com said: > > Los Angeles Perl Mongers > > March 2004 > Technical Talk > > Tuesday, March 9th, 2004 > 7:00 pm > > Why mod_perl 2.0 rules -- Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks > > by Geoffrey Young [snip] I'll be there. -- Scott Francis | darkuncle(at)darkuncle(dot)net | 0x5537F527 Less and less is done until non-action is achieved when nothing is done, nothing is left undone. -- the Tao of Sysadmin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/losangeles-pm/attachments/20040308/44a15eed/attachment.bin From steve at brooktree.net Mon Mar 8 12:08:46 2004 From: steve at brooktree.net (Steve Gertz) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Re: Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <200403081800.i28I07U10308@mail.pm.org> References: <200403081800.i28I07U10308@mail.pm.org> Message-ID: <404CB6AE.4050902@brooktree.net> losangeles-pm-request@mail.pm.org wrote: >From: Robert Spier >Subject: [LA.pm] EVENT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 > sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules >To: "Los Angeles Perl Mongers" > [snip] >Accessing the Building- > > I'm pretty sure you should be able to just walk into the building, > If you have to sign in, just put down 'la.pm'. If the guard cares, > you're going up to Citysearch. It's got a Washington Mutual Bank on > the ground floor. (Don't go into the bank!) Head into the lobby, > into the Elevator and press 2. Once on the third floor, the door to > the office will probably be closed, but there will be a sign > pointing to a doorbell, and someone will open the door. > >Any questions? > >-R > > > How did I get on the third floor when I pressed 2 in the elevator? :) Steve From rspier at pobox.com Mon Mar 8 12:56:49 2004 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Re: Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <404CB6AE.4050902@brooktree.net> References: <200403081800.i28I07U10308@mail.pm.org> <404CB6AE.4050902@brooktree.net> Message-ID: > How did I get on the third floor when I pressed 2 in the elevator? :) You took the escalator! From ask at develooper.com Mon Mar 8 14:59:35 2004 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Re: Losangeles-pm Digest, Vol 9, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <404CB6AE.4050902@brooktree.net> References: <200403081800.i28I07U10308@mail.pm.org> <404CB6AE.4050902@brooktree.net> Message-ID: <81754B7E-7143-11D8-A99F-000A957168EC@develooper.com> On Mar 8, 2004, at 10:08 AM, Steve Gertz wrote: > How did I get on the third floor when I pressed 2 in the elevator? :) Don't you watch movies? You punch the elevator ceiling open and start crawling up the wire. If you are good you'll make it just before the wire comes loose and it comes crashing down ending in a big explosion. :-) - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ From rspier at pobox.com Tue Mar 9 15:27:45 2004 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] TONIGHT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules References: Message-ID: Reminder, this is tonight ------------------------------------------------- Los Angeles Perl Mongers March 2004 Technical Talk Tuesday, March 9th, 2004 7:00 pm Why mod_perl 2.0 rules -- Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks by Geoffrey Young co-author of mod_perl Developer's Cookbook http://modperlcookbook.org Have you tried working with mod_perl 2.0 yet? Ugh. With all those new classes and directives to learn, not to mention the list of incomplete features, you might as well stay with the trusty, stable mod_perl of old. And subroutine attributes? Eesh. Of course, the new 2.0 API does let you do fun stuff like write output filters. Oh, and there's the Apache::Test framework that's pretty cool. Not to mention a method called assbackwards(). This brief, fun talk will introduce mod_perl 2.0 by poking fun at its shortcomings as well as showcasing its promise. 3731 Wilshire Blvd (Western and Wilshire) Los Angeles, CA 90010 Citysearch.com 2nd floor conference room to be followed by dinner either pizza (delivered) or Oaxacan at Guelaguetza http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/5102 which is a five minute walk away Important Details: Parking- On-street parking is hard to find in the area, but you might find something on one of the side-streets. The easiest lot is the one under the golf range, just south of Wilshire on Serrano Ave. The building is a half block from the Western and Wilshire Red-Line Metro station. (http://metro.net) Accessing the Building- I'm pretty sure you should be able to just walk into the building, If you have to sign in, just put down 'la.pm'. If the guard cares, you're going up to Citysearch. It's got a Washington Mutual Bank on the ground floor. (Don't go into the bank!) Head into the lobby, into the Elevator and press 2. Once on the second floor, the door to the office will probably be closed, but there will be a sign pointing to a doorbell, and someone will open the door. Any questions? -R From pete at peterbenjamin.com Tue Mar 9 19:42:18 2004 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] TONIGHT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309174056.05bfe888@peterbenjamin.com> Love to go as I will be about 4 miles from there attending the mid month www.LAMPSIG.org Planning dinner. Any chance it will be video taped? I'll put the material up at www.LPBN.org! Pete At 01:27 PM 3/9/2004, Robert Spier wrote: >Reminder, this is tonight > >------------------------------------------------- > > >Los Angeles Perl Mongers > >March 2004 >Technical Talk > >Tuesday, March 9th, 2004 >7:00 pm > >Why mod_perl 2.0 rules -- Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks > >by Geoffrey Young > >co-author of mod_perl Developer's Cookbook >http://modperlcookbook.org > > Have you tried working with mod_perl 2.0 yet? Ugh. With all those > new classes and directives to learn, not to mention the list of > incomplete features, you might as well stay with the trusty, > stable mod_perl of old. And subroutine attributes? Eesh. > > Of course, the new 2.0 API does let you do fun stuff like write > output filters. Oh, and there's the Apache::Test framework that's > pretty cool. Not to mention a method called assbackwards(). > > This brief, fun talk will introduce mod_perl 2.0 by poking fun at > its shortcomings as well as showcasing its promise. > >3731 Wilshire Blvd >(Western and Wilshire) >Los Angeles, CA 90010 > >Citysearch.com >2nd floor conference room > >to be followed by dinner >either pizza (delivered) >or Oaxacan at Guelaguetza >http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/5102 >which is a five minute walk away > > >Important Details: > >Parking- > > On-street parking is hard to find in the area, but you might find > something on one of the side-streets. The easiest lot is the one > under the golf range, just south of Wilshire on Serrano Ave. > > The building is a half block from the Western and Wilshire Red-Line > Metro station. (http://metro.net) > >Accessing the Building- > > I'm pretty sure you should be able to just walk into the building, > If you have to sign in, just put down 'la.pm'. If the guard cares, > you're going up to Citysearch. It's got a Washington Mutual Bank on > the ground floor. (Don't go into the bank!) Head into the lobby, > into the Elevator and press 2. Once on the second floor, the door to > the office will probably be closed, but there will be a sign > pointing to a doorbell, and someone will open the door. > >Any questions? > >-R >_______________________________________________ >Losangeles-pm mailing list >Losangeles-pm@mail.pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm Pete From ask at develooper.com Tue Mar 9 21:06:06 2004 From: ask at develooper.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ask_Bj=F8rn_Hansen?=) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] TONIGHT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309174056.05bfe888@peterbenjamin.com> References: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309174056.05bfe888@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: On Mar 9, 2004, at 5:42 PM, Peter Benjamin wrote: > Any chance it will be video taped? No DV cameras here, so no. :-) - ask -- http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Wed Mar 10 01:39:04 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] TONIGHT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309174056.05bfe888@peterbenjamin.com> References: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309174056.05bfe888@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <404EC618.70705@modperlcookbook.org> thank you all for coming out - I had a great time. here are links to the slides (well, the slides from apachecon - I'll try and update these with the new numbers soonish) http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/slides/pm/la/ links to my mod_perl 2.0 articles on perl.com can be found here http://www.modperlcookbook.org/~geoff/ I'll be sure to ping everyone again the next time I'm in town. --Geoff From ehammond at thinksome.com Wed Mar 10 03:42:19 2004 From: ehammond at thinksome.com (Eric Hammond) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:57 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] TONIGHT: Tuesday March 9th, 7pm - Why mod_perl 2.0 sucks? Why mod_perl 2.0 rules In-Reply-To: References: <6.0.1.1.0.20040309174056.05bfe888@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <20040310094219.GA4863@rent.com> Ask Bj?rn Hansen wrote: > On Mar 9, 2004, at 5:42 PM, Peter Benjamin wrote: > >Any chance it will be video taped? > No DV cameras here, so no. :-) If I get a reminder in advance next time, I can bring a digital camcorder and tripod. My system to convert it to online video formats isn't set up at the moment, but perhaps somebody else can handle that part. -- Eric Hammond ehammond@thinksome.com