From rspier at pobox.com Mon Jul 1 00:30:18 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: fwd: [tim@consultix-inc.com: SPUG: YAPC Movie available for download] Message-ID: <15647.59626.761041.308654@rls.cx> I'll be lazy and forward Walt's message to y'all. ;) Warning, the movie is rated R. -R ------- start of forwarded message ------- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:54:41 -0400 To: phl@lists.pm.org From: Walt Mankowski Subject: [tim@consultix-inc.com: SPUG: YAPC Movie available for download] Message-ID: <20020701025441.GA23295@pobox.com> --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And I'll attempt to trump David's laziness by forwarding *his* forward to you folks. :-) I'll just add that Tim's email doesn't really do justice to just how incredibly funny this video is. Enjoy. Walt ----- Forwarded message from "David H. Adler" ----- Delivered-To: waltman@localhost Delivered-To: waltman@pobox.com Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:47:17 -0400 From: "David H. Adler" To: "ny.pm" Subject: [tim@consultix-inc.com: SPUG: YAPC Movie available for download] Mail-Followup-To: "David H. Adler" , "ny.pm" I would have probably announced this anyway, but Tim did a better job than I probably would have, having seen schwern's "How To Be Lazy" talk a few too many time. :-) Thanks Tim. ----- Forwarded message from Tim Maher ----- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:06:49 -0700 From: Tim Maher To: spug-list@pm.org Subject: SPUG: YAPC Movie available for download User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: Consultix Precedence: bulk SPUGsters, Nat Torkington produced a humorous movie during YAPC, which was presented as the penultimate Lightning Talk. (Okay, I'll admit it, this was a clever scheme by Yours Truly to warm up the audience for my "Name Game" talk). It's called "A Python Programmer learns Perl from the Masters", and it stars Casey West as a befuddled Pythoner trying to make sense out of YAPC and Perl. It features lots of Perl luminaries, but unless you know who they are already, you won't always know who's who, so I'll provide this guide. In order of appearance, the actors are: Jon Orwant, Casey West, Abigail, Elaine Ashton, Jarkko Hietaniemi, Dan Sugalski, Michael Schwern, Simon Cozens, Uri Guttman, Damian Conway, Larry Wall, Mark-Jason Dominus, Nat Torkington, and then Uri again. I guess one could say the movie is sort of a high-tech version of Animal House (and I'll leave you to ponder the question of whether that's necessarily a Good Thing!) It runs about 8 minutes, and you can find it at http://www.perl.org/yapc/2002/movies. There are also sound-only clips of some conference talks at http://www.perl.org/yapc/2002/audio. And someday soon there will be still images at http://www.perl.org/yapc/2002/images. You won't be able to travel backwards in time until Damian's Time::Space::Continuum.pm hits the CPAN, so experiencing YAPC 2002 through frozen media clips is still the next best thing to having been there! -Tim P.S. The new deadline for TPF donations that qualify you for the Free Training with Damian raffle is 7/5 (see teachmeperl.com/apworkshop.html). And there's still room for *paying customers* in all Damian's classes too! ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Packard Bell doesn't make computers, they make elaborate paperweights. - Mark Rogaski **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe ny" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** ----- End forwarded message ----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9H8RxXfGeK2entYQRAhytAKCyQP8qThHPYwHIZ8VKq95hKrlirgCfcDYN 11dD2KgqspcZcbmXiGi9BpE= =UOoP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO-- **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe phl" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** ------- end of forwarded message ------- -- From rspier at pobox.com Tue Jul 2 01:32:00 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting Message-ID: <15649.18656.120246.709569@rls.cx> Well, it's about time for a meeting again. Anyone want to give a talk, or should we have a dinner/lunch/social meeting? -R From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Tue Jul 2 12:15:53 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <15649.18656.120246.709569@rls.cx> References: <15649.18656.120246.709569@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020702171553.GC14443@darkuncle.net> On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 11:32:00PM -0700, rspier@pobox.com said: > > Well, it's about time for a meeting again. > > Anyone want to give a talk, or should we have a dinner/lunch/social > meeting? FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ... (but hey, that's just me :) ) cheesecake factory always tasty ... -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Afterall, its the right time of year eh :) Just a thought -jeff On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Robert Spier wrote: > > Well, it's about time for a meeting again. > > Anyone want to give a talk, or should we have a dinner/lunch/social > meeting? > > -R > From ehammond at thinksome.com Tue Jul 2 13:17:14 2002 From: ehammond at thinksome.com (Eric Hammond) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <20020702171553.GC14443@darkuncle.net>; from darkuncle@darkuncle.net on Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 10:15:53AM -0700 References: <15649.18656.120246.709569@rls.cx> <20020702171553.GC14443@darkuncle.net> Message-ID: <20020702111714.A28736@brog> Scott Francis wrote: > cheesecake factory always tasty ... I'll second the food thing, but the Cheesecake Factory in Pasadena last time was too loud to be able to hear conversations. (Ok, so I'm over 30.) Alternatively, if somebody has a talk to give, I can again offer a conference room at Rent.com in Santa Monica (plans a couple months ago fell through because I had a baby). -- Eric Hammond ehammond@thinksome.com From rspier at pobox.com Tue Jul 2 13:19:10 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <20020702171553.GC14443@darkuncle.net> References: <15649.18656.120246.709569@rls.cx> <20020702171553.GC14443@darkuncle.net> Message-ID: <15649.61086.148413.952265@rls.cx> Scott Francis writes: >On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 11:32:00PM -0700, rspier@pobox.com said: >> Well, it's about time for a meeting again. >> Anyone want to give a talk, or should we have a dinner/lunch/social >> meeting? >FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD ... >(but hey, that's just me :) ) Well, that's one vote. :) >cheesecake factory always tasty ... I'd hope for somewhere new and different. There are so many cool restaurants around.. might as well try em out. -R From jjames at somepoint.org Tue Jul 2 14:39:19 2002 From: jjames at somepoint.org (Jeremy James) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting References: Message-ID: <3D220167.5070603@somepoint.org> Jeff wrote: > What about like a beach BBQ in venice or something? > I second the beach bbq idea. I don't have a reason to have such a thing anymore. This would be a nice excuse ;) > Afterall, its the right time of year eh :) > Jeremy From allenday at ucla.edu Tue Jul 2 14:57:53 2002 From: allenday at ucla.edu (Allen Day) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <3D220167.5070603@somepoint.org> Message-ID: Sounds good to me too. On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Jeremy James wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > What about like a beach BBQ in venice or something? > > > > I second the beach bbq idea. I don't have a reason to have such a thing > anymore. This would be a nice excuse ;) > > > Afterall, its the right time of year eh :) > > > > Jeremy > From jeff at xiir.net Tue Jul 2 18:08:23 2002 From: jeff at xiir.net (Jeff) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So it sounds like we're in a dead heat on this one :P 2 people for the beach, and 2 more for cheesecake. Well, one advantage about the beach is poor developers (we know who we are) can afford the beach :P Besides, we live in LA for a beach, cuz we sure as hell don't get a whole lot else out of it. -jeff On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Allen Day wrote: > Sounds good to me too. > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Jeremy James wrote: > > > Jeff wrote: > > > What about like a beach BBQ in venice or something? > > > > > > > I second the beach bbq idea. I don't have a reason to have such a thing > > anymore. This would be a nice excuse ;) > > > > > Afterall, its the right time of year eh :) > > > > > > > Jeremy > > > From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Tue Jul 2 19:58:41 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020703005841.GY14443@darkuncle.net> On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 04:08:23PM -0700, jeff@xiir.net said: > So it sounds like we're in a dead heat on this one :P > 2 people for the beach, and 2 more for cheesecake. > > Well, one advantage about the beach is poor developers (we know who we > are) can afford the beach :P > > Besides, we live in LA for a beach, cuz we sure as hell don't get a whole > lot else out of it. I'm in favor of either or both. :) -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This would be a nice excuse ;) > > > Afterall, its the right time of year eh :) > > > > Jeremy > From rspier at pobox.com Sat Jul 6 11:45:50 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> Bob Benjamin writes: > >Beach BBQ sounds good. >Where and when? >Bob Benjamin > Conversation seems to have died out. :) How about: On a beach! (Not malibu, if possible, it's beautiful, but a loooooooooong drive for us valley folks.) On a saturday or sunday.. maybe the 14th or 20th? -R (letting others refine the details now.) From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Sat Jul 6 22:55:49 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> References: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020707035549.GB34952@darkuncle.net> On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 09:45:50AM -0700, rspier@pobox.com said: > Bob Benjamin writes: > > > >Beach BBQ sounds good. > >Where and when? > >Bob Benjamin > > Conversation seems to have died out. :) > > How about: > > On a beach! sounds good ... 3rd St. Promenade in Santa Monica has some great food places, and is close to the beach ... we had a great LA.pm meet with Randal Schwartz at a nice little restaurant down there one time. :) > (Not malibu, if possible, it's beautiful, but a loooooooooong > drive for us valley folks.) aw, it's not much farther than going to Venice. :) 30-40 minutes from my house, and you only live about 10-15 minutes from me ... > On a saturday or sunday.. > > maybe the 14th or 20th? either is fine with me. > -R (letting others refine the details now.) -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be cool if we could do a real BBQ, charcoal briquets and hamburgers and corn and all. :) >> (Not malibu, if possible, it's beautiful, but a loooooooooong >> drive for us valley folks.) > >aw, it's not much farther than going to Venice. :) 30-40 minutes from my >house, and you only live about 10-15 minutes from me ... It always takes me at least an hour to get to Malibu. (At least to the *nice* beaches.) And then there's the obligatory traffic on the 101. -R From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Sun Jul 7 01:12:51 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <15655.52856.789118.544293@rls.cx> References: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> <20020707035549.GB34952@darkuncle.net> <15655.52856.789118.544293@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020707061251.GD34952@darkuncle.net> On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 10:15:36PM -0700, rspier@pobox.com said: [snip] > >sounds good ... 3rd St. Promenade in Santa Monica has some great food places, > >and is close to the beach ... we had a great LA.pm meet with Randal Schwartz > >at a nice little restaurant down there one time. :) > > That's not _on_ a beach. It would be cool if we could do a real BBQ, > charcoal briquets and hamburgers and corn and all. :) Hrm. Many public beaches prohibit fire, or require a permit to do that type of thing. If we can find one that provides those outdoor bbq grill-type things that are seen in public parks sometimes, we'll probably be set. (This sounds like a lot of fun, but is also beginning to sound like it will require considerable organization ...) > It always takes me at least an hour to get to Malibu. (At least to > the *nice* beaches.) And then there's the obligatory traffic on the > 101. Depends on when, mainly. 101 from my place (@ 134/170/101 junction) to Kanan Rd. and then over the hill takes me about 45 min generally. So that hour figure does seem pretty accurate. But then it takes a good 40 minutes to get to Venice from your place too, so ... :) -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:12:51PM -0700, Scott Francis wrote: > On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 10:15:36PM -0700, rspier@pobox.com said: > [snip] > > >sounds good ... 3rd St. Promenade in Santa Monica has some great food places, > > >and is close to the beach ... we had a great LA.pm meet with Randal Schwartz > > >at a nice little restaurant down there one time. :) > > > > That's not _on_ a beach. It would be cool if we could do a real BBQ, > > charcoal briquets and hamburgers and corn and all. :) > > Hrm. Many public beaches prohibit fire, or require a permit to do that type > of thing. If we can find one that provides those outdoor bbq grill-type > things that are seen in public parks sometimes, we'll probably be set. > > (This sounds like a lot of fun, but is also beginning to sound like it will > require considerable organization ...) > > > It always takes me at least an hour to get to Malibu. (At least to > > the *nice* beaches.) And then there's the obligatory traffic on the > > 101. > > Depends on when, mainly. 101 from my place (@ 134/170/101 junction) to Kanan > Rd. and then over the hill takes me about 45 min generally. So that hour > figure does seem pretty accurate. But then it takes a good 40 minutes to get > to Venice from your place too, so ... :) > -- > -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- > GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 > illum oportet crescere me autem minui -- Conrad Heiney conrad@fringehead.org http://fringehead.org ---------- Is this going to involve RAW human ecstasy? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be cool if we could do a real BBQ, >>charcoal briquets and hamburgers and corn and all. :) It would definitly not be the same without a flaming pit of charcoal! Hey, what kind of party do you have to throw to get Randal to show up? I think beach bbq is just screaming for a guest guru. > > > Hrm. Many public beaches prohibit fire, or require a permit to do that type > of thing. If we can find one that provides those outdoor bbq grill-type > things that are seen in public parks sometimes, we'll probably be set. > > (This sounds like a lot of fun, but is also beginning to sound like it will > require considerable organization ...) > I live pretty close to venice beach and will scope out the area and see what we have to work with. I walk between the venice peer and sm peer quite a bit and haven't seen any obviously public grilling areas. Jeremy From clay at panix.com Sun Jul 7 06:30:39 2002 From: clay at panix.com (Clay Irving) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:17 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <3D280390.9010208@somepoint.org> References: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> <20020707035549.GB34952@darkuncle.net> <15655.52856.789118.544293@rls.cx> <20020707061251.GD34952@darkuncle.net> <3D280390.9010208@somepoint.org> Message-ID: <20020707113039.GC27818@panix.com> On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:02:08AM -0700, Jeremy James wrote: > I live pretty close to venice beach and will scope out the area and see > what we have to work with. I walk between the venice peer and sm peer > quite a bit and haven't seen any obviously public grilling areas. The only beaches with fire rings are Dockweiler and Cabrillo Beaches: http://beaches.co.la.ca.us/BandH/Beaches/Main.htm -- Clay Irving Chemist who fall in acid, absorbed in work. From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Sun Jul 7 18:52:49 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <20020707062254.GA5371@pip> References: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> <20020707035549.GB34952@darkuncle.net> <15655.52856.789118.544293@rls.cx> <20020707061251.GD34952@darkuncle.net> <20020707062254.GA5371@pip> Message-ID: <20020707235249.GA37165@darkuncle.net> On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:22:54PM -0700, conrad@fringehead.org said: > There are fire pits down here in Huntington and Newport beaches. w00t! If we have it in OC (or closer to), you can attend ... ;) -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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One with women. - ask From mdeazley at 1stconnect.com Tue Jul 9 01:08:38 2002 From: mdeazley at 1stconnect.com (Mark Deazley) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting References: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> <20020707035549.GB34952@darkuncle.net> <15655.52856.789118.544293@rls.cx> <20020707061251.GD34952@darkuncle.net> <20020707062254.GA5371@pip> <20020707235249.GA37165@darkuncle.net> Message-ID: <3D2A7DE6.3050907@1stconnect.com> Scott Francis wrote: >On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:22:54PM -0700, conrad@fringehead.org said: > >>There are fire pits down here in Huntington and Newport beaches. >> > >w00t! If we have it in OC (or closer to), you can attend ... ;) > If you're going that far South then up here in Castaic is equally permissable... And we have square miles of BBQed hills... All our trail systems are a big BBQ pit! ;-0 But seriously, I already drive 40+ miles to Venice or Pasadena. OC is just too far. Is this LA.pm or OC.pm ? MJD From rdbenjamin at earthlink.net Tue Jul 9 01:33:05 2002 From: rdbenjamin at earthlink.net (Bob Benjamin) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <3D2A7DE6.3050907@1stconnect.com> Message-ID: OK, someone send me the zip codes of all the members/etc. Bob Benjamin -----Original Message----- From: owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org [mailto:owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org]On Behalf Of Mark Deazley Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:09 PM To: list@la.pm.org Subject: Re: LA.pm: Meeting Scott Francis wrote: >On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:22:54PM -0700, conrad@fringehead.org said: > >>There are fire pits down here in Huntington and Newport beaches. >> > >w00t! If we have it in OC (or closer to), you can attend ... ;) > If you're going that far South then up here in Castaic is equally permissable... And we have square miles of BBQed hills... All our trail systems are a big BBQ pit! ;-0 But seriously, I already drive 40+ miles to Venice or Pasadena. OC is just too far. Is this LA.pm or OC.pm ? MJD From allenday at ucla.edu Tue Jul 9 02:05:52 2002 From: allenday at ucla.edu (Allen Day) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 90066 here. About 5 minutes from Venice. -Allen On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Bob Benjamin wrote: > OK, > someone send me the zip codes of all the members/etc. > Bob Benjamin > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org [mailto:owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org]On > Behalf Of Mark Deazley > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:09 PM > To: list@la.pm.org > Subject: Re: LA.pm: Meeting > > > Scott Francis wrote: > > >On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:22:54PM -0700, conrad@fringehead.org said: > > > >>There are fire pits down here in Huntington and Newport beaches. > >> > > > >w00t! If we have it in OC (or closer to), you can attend ... ;) > > > If you're going that far South then up here in Castaic is equally > permissable... And we have square miles of BBQed hills... All our trail > systems are a big BBQ pit! ;-0 > > But seriously, I already drive 40+ miles to Venice or Pasadena. OC is > just too far. > Is this LA.pm or OC.pm ? > > > MJD > From jjames at somepoint.org Tue Jul 9 11:32:33 2002 From: jjames at somepoint.org (Jeremy James) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Meeting References: Message-ID: <3D2B1021.5070400@somepoint.org> 90066 here, hop and a skip from Venice. Jeremy James Bob Benjamin wrote: > OK, > someone send me the zip codes of all the members/etc. > Bob Benjamin > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org [mailto:owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org]On > Behalf Of Mark Deazley > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 11:09 PM > To: list@la.pm.org > Subject: Re: LA.pm: Meeting > > > Scott Francis wrote: > > >>On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 11:22:54PM -0700, conrad@fringehead.org said: >> >> >>>There are fire pits down here in Huntington and Newport beaches. >>> >> >>w00t! If we have it in OC (or closer to), you can attend ... ;) >> > > If you're going that far South then up here in Castaic is equally > permissable... And we have square miles of BBQed hills... All our trail > systems are a big BBQ pit! ;-0 > > But seriously, I already drive 40+ miles to Venice or Pasadena. OC is > just too far. > Is this LA.pm or OC.pm ? > > > MJD From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Jul 9 17:49:42 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: LA.pm: Meeting Message-ID: <3D2B6886.4080607@LucidX.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 14:08:30 -0700 To: From: Peter Benjamin Subject: Re: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <3D220167.5070603@somepoint.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anywhere on the West side will get me there. At 12:57 PM 7/2/2002, Allen Day wrote: >Sounds good to me too. > >On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Jeremy James wrote: > >> Jeff wrote: >> > What about like a beach BBQ in venice or something? >> > >> >> I second the beach bbq idea. I don't have a reason to have such a thing >> anymore. This would be a nice excuse ;) >> >> > Afterall, its the right time of year eh :) >> > >> >> Jeremy >> Pete -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Jul 9 17:50:28 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Fwd: BBQ Message-ID: <3D2B68B4.2080606@LucidX.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:02:46 -0700 (PDT) From: jeff@securemac.com X-X-Sender: jmh@staticusers.net Reply-To: jeff@securemac.com To: list@la.pm.org Subject: BBQ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all, jeff@xiir.net is currently down so i figured i'd jump in on the BBQ discussion (its lots of fun reading your email in your second MX with qmHandle, hah. I still think on the beach in venice would be best, however, the only place for open BBQ's as I was just informed is like playa del rey. Thats only a minor problem though. Theres always the option of going to costco, buying a bunch of those baked chickens, and claiming we cooked them ourselves :) Anywhere from like hermosa to malibu is fine by me, the only reason I suggested venice in particular is the general nature of venice over the summer. We can eat, stare at freaks, and *ahem* the locals to venice I'm sure don't mind (not suggesting I'm local or anything *innocent look*) So when does everyone like? Also if anyone is interested theres a cisco users group meeting coming up on wednesday www.sccug.org if anyone is interested. -jeff -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Jul 9 17:51:04 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Fwd: Ask Bjoern Hansen Message-ID: <3D2B68D8.5030800@LucidX.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ask Bjoern Hansen X-X-Sender: ask@impatience.valueclick.com To: Robert Spier cc: Bob Benjamin , Subject: RE: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Robert Spier wrote: > On a beach! > > (Not malibu, if possible, it's beautiful, but a loooooooooong > drive for us valley folks.) that's what you get for choosing to live, ... there. ;-) > On a saturday or sunday.. > > maybe the 14th or 20th? ETOOMANYSLIDESTOMAKE. I'm up for either kind of meeting; but before OSCon might be hard for me. - ask -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Jul 9 17:51:25 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: LA.pm: Meeting Message-ID: <3D2B68ED.5080105@LucidX.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 10:57:58 -0700 To: list@la.pm.org From: Peter Benjamin Subject: Re: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <3D2B1021.5070400@somepoint.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 90403 Santa Monica Note: Let's have 3 meetings. One in Castaic - I'll have to miss that one. One on the Beach - I'll make that one. One in Long Beach - I might make that one, but the commute during rush hour is 2+ hours. We can have the beach one this month while the weather is good. All we need is a time and place. The fire pits on the beach are first come first serve. It gets dark at about 8:30. Bring your sand chairs. Grilling equipment like unbent coat hangers are not optional. Everyone should bring their own cooking utensils and pots and pans. We can start at 6 pm, which is likely the soonest any one can get there. They can reserve the fire pit. We'll need at least 3 arms full of firewood. It is about $4 at the supermarket. There is no close supermarket, so bring what wood you can. Denser wood is better. Wet wood will not be used. I recall doing the fire pit at some beach near LAX. I think it was south of the drive in camp site. I do not have time to get down there to see this week. There was a parking lot we parked in. I suggest using that location. Pete -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Jul 9 17:51:43 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: Fwd: RE: LA.pm: Meeting Message-ID: <3D2B68FF.4020801@LucidX.com> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ask Bjoern Hansen To: Bob Benjamin cc: Mark Deazley , Subject: RE: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Bob Benjamin wrote: > OK, > someone send me the zip codes of all the members/etc. > Bob Benjamin 90048. (Who should subscribe from an address he reads more often). - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From szelnick2000 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 9 18:19:46 2002 From: szelnick2000 at yahoo.com (Sagi Z) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: bbq date Message-ID: <20020709231946.62306.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com> Can we make the bbq date for Sat, July 20th? PS -- Any of you guys like to play poker? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com From allenday at ucla.edu Tue Jul 9 18:48:29 2002 From: allenday at ucla.edu (Allen Day) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Fwd: Ask Bjoern Hansen In-Reply-To: <3D2B68D8.5030800@LucidX.com> Message-ID: After the OSC is better for me too. On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Samy Kamkar wrote: > > Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 18:00:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen > X-X-Sender: ask@impatience.valueclick.com > To: Robert Spier > cc: Bob Benjamin , > Subject: RE: LA.pm: Meeting > In-Reply-To: <15655.7870.397307.126839@rls.cx> > Message-ID: > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Robert Spier wrote: > > > On a beach! > > > > (Not malibu, if possible, it's beautiful, but a loooooooooong > > drive for us valley folks.) > > that's what you get for choosing to live, ... there. ;-) > > > On a saturday or sunday.. > > > > maybe the 14th or 20th? > > ETOOMANYSLIDESTOMAKE. > > I'm up for either kind of meeting; but before OSCon might be hard > for me. > > > - ask > > > > From clay at panix.com Tue Jul 9 19:08:04 2002 From: clay at panix.com (Clay Irving) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <3D2B68ED.5080105@LucidX.com> References: <3D2B68ED.5080105@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20020710000804.GA5801@panix.com> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 03:51:25PM -0700, Samy Kamkar wrote: > 90403 Santa Monica 90266 - Manhattan Beach > We can start at 6 pm, which is likely the soonest any one can get there. > They can reserve the fire pit. I can easily get there in the afternoon and stake a claim on a pit -- I could literally walk there from my home. > I recall doing the fire pit at some beach near LAX. > I think it was south of the drive in camp site. > I do not have time to get down there to see this > week. There was a parking lot we parked in. > I suggest using that location. That's Dockweiler Beach: http://beaches.co.la.ca.us/BandH/Beaches/Dockweiler.htm If you need an informal presentation, I could tell you about some of the cool things we do with Perl at SKECHERS USA, Inc. -- Clay Irving When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. - Victor Marie Hugo From rspier at pobox.com Tue Jul 9 23:32:08 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <20020710000804.GA5801@panix.com> References: <3D2B68ED.5080105@LucidX.com> <20020710000804.GA5801@panix.com> Message-ID: <15659.47304.821442.222234@rls.cx> >If you need an informal presentation, I could tell you about some of the >cool things we do with Perl at SKECHERS USA, Inc. That's *not* a typo'ed version of the shoe company, right? -R From clay at panix.com Wed Jul 10 05:58:45 2002 From: clay at panix.com (Clay Irving) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: Fwd: Re: LA.pm: Meeting In-Reply-To: <15659.47304.821442.222234@rls.cx> References: <3D2B68ED.5080105@LucidX.com> <20020710000804.GA5801@panix.com> <15659.47304.821442.222234@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020710105845.GA19953@panix.com> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 09:32:08PM -0700, Robert Spier wrote: >>If you need an informal presentation, I could tell you about some of the >>cool things we do with Perl at SKECHERS USA, Inc. > > That's *not* a typo'ed version of the shoe company, right? It's not. Right. :) -- Clay Irving For NASA, space is still a high priority. - Dan Quayle From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Wed Jul 10 09:55:45 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Fwd: BBQ In-Reply-To: <3D2B68B4.2080606@LucidX.com> References: <3D2B68B4.2080606@LucidX.com> Message-ID: <20020710145544.GB49803@darkuncle.net> On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 03:50:28PM -0700, SKamkar@LucidX.com said: [snip] > Anywhere from like hermosa to malibu is fine by me, the only reason I > suggested venice in particular is the general nature of venice over the > summer. We can eat, stare at freaks, and *ahem* the locals to venice I'm > sure don't mind (not suggesting I'm local or anything *innocent look*) I wouldn't mind going to Venice again. I haven't been since last summer, and I had a great time then (skating, etc.). > Also if anyone is interested theres a cisco users group meeting coming up > on wednesday > www.sccug.org if anyone is interested. cool. I didn't know there was such a beast around here. I may have to drop in. -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are scattered on the beach from south of the RV camp site to north of the parking lot (right behind the southwest tip of LAX). -- Clay Irving #11910 I see you omitted $! from the error message. It won't tell you what went wrong if you don't ask it to. - Good Advice and Maxims for Programmers, Mark Jason Dominus From SKamkar at LucidX.com Wed Jul 17 16:29:48 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: [Fwd: OSCON--Please pass this new info to your members] Message-ID: <3D35E1CC.2080004@LucidX.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: OSCON--Please pass this new info to your members Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 14:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Marsee Henon To: SKamkar@LucidX.com Single day passes are now available for $400 at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention--July 24, 25, or 26. The walk-in fee will be waived. O'Reilly Open Source Convention Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina July 22-26, 2002--San Diego, CA Check out the speakers, key notes, sessions, and other events: http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/ To register: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2002/create/ord_os02 Thanks for your help! Marsee -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From jeff at xiir.net Sun Jul 21 20:39:51 2002 From: jeff at xiir.net (Jeff) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... Message-ID: to the whole beach party idea? Venice? Hermosa? Where? When? How? Why? Oh wait, we know the why :) I went exploring around hermosa beach a few days ago, theres a lovely little park called Hermosa Valley Park, Off Ghould and Valley which does allow BBQ's with live fire, its about 2 blocks up from the beach. I believe you can Also do them in Burton park in MDR, but I'm pretty sure you need a permit to do them there. So when and where guys? If not a BBQ why not just bring a grip of food and make a picnic at the beach. Everyone brings something different. Someone however does need to remember to bring the beer :) -jeff From jjames at somepoint.org Sun Jul 21 21:47:25 2002 From: jjames at somepoint.org (Jeremy James) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... References: Message-ID: <3D3B723D.3040005@somepoint.org> Jeff wrote: > If not a BBQ why not just bring a grip of food and make a picnic at the > beach. > Everyone brings something different. > I think we need to vote on whether or not a BBQ is essential to the idea. If it isn't then our option of beach is unlimited and we can choose just about anywhere (It didn't seem like there was tremendous exception taken to Venice Beach). If we all really want to get out a grill our choice of beach is greatly reduced (and I'm almost positive that Venice is out). Hermosa sounds great to me. I would actually prefer to drive a little bit futher for the taste of real BBQ. What do you guys (gals?) think. Speaking of Gals... could this become even less formal of a meeting and involve various non-Perlish (though they all know of it's sanctity) entities? > Someone however does need to remember to bring the beer :) If we can get a head count maybe a keg would be in order ;) Jeremy From david at cnation.com Sun Jul 21 21:56:40 2002 From: david at cnation.com (David Pisoni) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >to the whole beach party idea? > >Venice? Hermosa? Where? When? How? Why? > >Oh wait, we know the why :) > >I went exploring around hermosa beach a few days ago, theres a lovely >little park called Hermosa Valley Park, Off Ghould and Valley which does >allow BBQ's with live fire, its about 2 blocks up from the beach. I >believe you can Also do them in Burton park in MDR, but I'm pretty sure >you need a permit to do them there. > >So when and where guys? > >If not a BBQ why not just bring a grip of food and make a picnic at the >beach. >Everyone brings something different. > >Someone however does need to remember to bring the beer :) > >-jeff I recently went to a party at Burton park in MdR. I don't know how much it cost, but you can reserve an entire covered area with picnic tables and multiple grills. The guy who put it on is on a budget, so I know it can't cost much. ;-) It's a nice park. Enjoy, David From jeff at xiir.net Mon Jul 22 00:45:04 2002 From: jeff at xiir.net (Jeff) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's like $20 or $30 or something. My little cousin had her birthday down there a few years back. I'd say our best bets at this point are 1. Venice Beach, non-BBQ Picnic setup, on the beach chillin with the crazy locals 2. Burton Park, MDR. Non-Beach, we can do BBQ's, but we have to come up with fundage and food for permits etc 3. Hermosa, BBQ in the park, and walk 3 blocks or whatever from Valley park to the beach. As was brought up before, how essential is the beach? Personally I think very much so. It lets everyone, including those of us who live close to the beach but never have an excuse to go, a reason to. :) How many people realistically are into this? If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. July August September Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 28 29 30 31 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 29 30 Theres a calendar. July is now almost over, so we're looking at either august or sept. If its gonna be at the beach, August would be better. Oh ya, and rather then bringing a keg, just bring a 6 pack of every kind of beer, and if you bring budweiser, we kick your ass :) -jeff On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, David Pisoni wrote: > >to the whole beach party idea? > > > >Venice? Hermosa? Where? When? How? Why? > > > >Oh wait, we know the why :) > > > >I went exploring around hermosa beach a few days ago, theres a lovely > >little park called Hermosa Valley Park, Off Ghould and Valley which does > >allow BBQ's with live fire, its about 2 blocks up from the beach. I > >believe you can Also do them in Burton park in MDR, but I'm pretty sure > >you need a permit to do them there. > > > >So when and where guys? > > > >If not a BBQ why not just bring a grip of food and make a picnic at the > >beach. > >Everyone brings something different. > > > >Someone however does need to remember to bring the beer :) > > > >-jeff > > I recently went to a party at Burton park in MdR. I don't know how much it cost, but you can reserve an entire covered area with picnic tables and multiple grills. The guy who put it on is on a budget, so I know it can't cost much. ;-) It's a nice park. > > Enjoy, > David > From rspier at pobox.com Mon Jul 22 11:22:19 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: <3D3B723D.3040005@somepoint.org> References: <3D3B723D.3040005@somepoint.org> Message-ID: <15676.12603.952797.153575@rls.cx> >I think we need to vote on whether or not a BBQ is essential to the How about "consensus" instead of vote? voting gets complicated. I think a simple BBQ would be fun. >prefer to drive a little bit futher for the taste of real BBQ. What >do you guys (gals?) think. Speaking of Gals... could this become even >less formal of a meeting and involve various non-Perlish (though they >all know of it's sanctity) entities? Why not? (And since when was it formal?) As long as: a) they don't mind hanging around with computer folks b) will eat the food c) will have fun :) I think some volleyball or frisbee will be in order, if everyone else is amenable. -R (TOGA PARTY!) From rspier at pobox.com Mon Jul 22 11:24:04 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15676.12708.201724.412962@rls.cx> >As was brought up before, how essential is the beach? Personally I think >very much so. It lets everyone, including those of us who live close to >the beach but never have an excuse to go, a reason to. I think a beach is worth the effort. Even those of us who live in the valley, which still isn't _that far_ from the beach, we still need that excuse. :) >How many people realistically are into this? I'm in... for August. -R (at TPC) From darkuncle at darkuncle.net Mon Jul 22 13:19:02 2002 From: darkuncle at darkuncle.net (Scott Francis) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: <15676.12708.201724.412962@rls.cx> References: <15676.12708.201724.412962@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020722181901.GJ11699@darkuncle.net> On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:24:04AM -0700, rspier@pobox.com said: > >As was brought up before, how essential is the beach? Personally I think > >very much so. It lets everyone, including those of us who live close to > >the beach but never have an excuse to go, a reason to. > > I think a beach is worth the effort. Even those of us who live in the > valley, which still isn't _that far_ from the beach, we still need > that excuse. :) > > >How many people realistically are into this? > > I'm in... for August. Me too, but only for a date after Aug. 10 (won't be back from honeymoon before then). -- -= Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net =- GPG key CB33CCA7 has been revoked; I am now 5537F527 illum oportet crescere me autem minui -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/losangeles-pm/attachments/20020722/3ae52c20/attachment.bin From ask at valueclick.com Mon Jul 22 17:17:28 2002 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > How many people realistically are into this? > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. C) We are at OSCON. :-) I'm in for most dates in August, I think. As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com From jeff at xiir.net Mon Jul 22 17:25:40 2002 From: jeff at xiir.net (Jeff) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh bah, you're used to driving to MDR, you were doing it nightly for a while ;) Personally I am opting the most for Hermosa, just because A) alcohol is allowed in the park, however as far as I know you're not supposed to have it at the beach, so if a keg or whatever did show up, we couldn't do dick about it. For second, we can BBQ and have a good time then head for the beach. I suppose we could go as far as Malibu, but there really isn't anything fun over there. With Venice we get freaks (Hi abe :P). With MDR we get BBQ and boats and grass (tag football anyone?). With Hermosa we can get all of the above, but it is further south then some people would like. Well, Lets say Aug 10th, Around, noon to like whenever we all decide to go home. Now our activities really define where we go. Does anyone wanna bring some boards and surf? Play some football/baseball? Run around looking like an idiot rambling like a jackass about all the evil perl that haunts you in your sleep? (In this case we'd fit in best in venice) -jeff On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > How many people realistically are into this? > > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) > > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. > > C) We are at OSCON. :-) > > I'm in for most dates in August, I think. > > As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) > > > - ask > > -- > ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); > more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com > From allenday at ucla.edu Mon Jul 22 18:20:08 2002 From: allenday at ucla.edu (Allen Day) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm at the OSCON php tutorial right now! Close to venice is best for me, and preferrably not before this weekend. but anytime/anywhere after that is okay with me. On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > How many people realistically are into this? > > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) > > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. > > C) We are at OSCON. :-) > > I'm in for most dates in August, I think. > > As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) > > > - ask > > From abe at dajoba.com Mon Jul 22 18:32:12 2002 From: abe at dajoba.com (Abraham Ingersoll) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Why on earth anyone would want to come down here on a summer weekend and flight against the raging tide of tourists seems unfathomable now that I've lived here so long, but uhh .. I offer up my building's roof. (It's boring as far as roofs go, but the location is 'ight -- within view of the ocean/boardwalk/etc.) We had a 4th of July BBQ up there that went well, and another neighbor's been having live practice/concerts up there as of late too. Nearby -- Venice breakwater (OK surfing in the morning before it gets windy), newly revamped boardwalk, basketball courts, drum circle, roller skating dance "thing", psuedo-skatepark (that's still in funding limbo), muscle beach, paddle tennis courts, venice canals, nightlife (MDR/Venice pier scene and SM Main St. is all close), etc. We'd have 802.11b to my cablemodem whilst on the roof, and my studio apartment/office has a couple of decent (quake-able?) workstations. The biggest pain in the ass is parking (and traffic). The average all-day parking spot runs about $15, maybe $20. If you get here before noon, you *might* be able to find street parking. I hear rumors of a Venice Beach parking shuttle every so often too.. I'd setup shop with a BBQ on the roof, leave the access doors to the stairs duct-taped open and then folks could come and go as their inebriated selves pleased. Come to think of it .. if we did it at my place or nearby in Venice, I could probably corral Greg, Joe, Barry and maybe a few other LA.pm "lurkers" into making an appearance. August 10 should work for me. I need to clear it with the building manager, but that should be a cinch. Anyone/everyone game? Abe On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > Oh bah, you're used to driving to MDR, you were doing it nightly for a > while ;) > > Personally I am opting the most for Hermosa, just because A) alcohol is > allowed in the park, however as far as I know you're not supposed to have > it at the beach, so if a keg or whatever did show up, we couldn't do dick > about it. For second, we can BBQ and have a good time then head for the > beach. > > I suppose we could go as far as Malibu, but there really isn't anything > fun over there. With Venice we get freaks (Hi abe :P). With MDR we get BBQ > and boats and grass (tag football anyone?). With Hermosa we can get all of > the above, but it is further south then some people would like. > > Well, Lets say Aug 10th, Around, noon to like whenever we all decide to go > home. > > Now our activities really define where we go. Does anyone wanna bring some > boards and surf? Play some football/baseball? > Run around looking like an idiot rambling like a jackass about all the > evil perl that haunts you in your sleep? (In this case we'd fit in best in > venice) > > -jeff > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > > > How many people realistically are into this? > > > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) > > > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. > > > > C) We are at OSCON. :-) > > > > I'm in for most dates in August, I think. > > > > As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) > > > > > > - ask > > > > -- > > ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); > > more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com > > > > From bbacker at yahoo.com Mon Jul 22 18:56:43 2002 From: bbacker at yahoo.com (Bryan Backer) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020722235643.37564.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > How many people realistically are into this? > > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I > think A) > > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. > > C) We are at OSCON. :-) > > I'm in for most dates in August, I think. > > As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) > > > - ask > > -- > ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); > more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com > We can have the warmup, practice beach event on the terrace behind the Sheraton San Diego at the OSCON. :) Ask and Robert are scheduled to give talks Tuesday and Wednesday so I imagine they're already here. I'm here (attending, not presenting) - how many other LA.pm'ers are going to be down in San Diego this week? http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2002 Bryan ===== ------------ bbacker@mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From jjames at somepoint.org Mon Jul 22 19:27:28 2002 From: jjames at somepoint.org (Jeremy James) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... References: Message-ID: <3D3CA2F0.5030406@somepoint.org> Abraham Ingersoll wrote: > I offer up my building's roof. (It's boring as far as roofs go, but the > location is 'ight -- within view of the ocean/boardwalk/etc.) We had a 4th > of July BBQ up there that went well, and another neighbor's been having > live practice/concerts up there as of late too. > Anyone/everyone game? > Wow, Well that sounds like it would probably make the whole BBQ part of the equation a lot easier and we wouldn't have to worry about whether or not alcohol is allowed ;). I guess we could just wander down to the beach and come back for food and Quake is a deal sweetener. Aug 10 is fine with me. The real questing for me is... are there any vacancies in your building? Jeremy From ehammond at thinksome.com Mon Jul 22 21:36:41 2002 From: ehammond at thinksome.com (Eric Hammond) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: OSCON (was LA.pm: What ever happend...) In-Reply-To: <20020722235643.37564.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com>; from bbacker@yahoo.com on Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 04:56:43PM -0700 References: <20020722235643.37564.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020722193641.A20148@brog> Bryan Backer wrote: > how many other LA.pm'ers are going to be down in San > Diego this week? I'll be at OSCON Wed-Fri. Other LA Perl types (not on this list) will also be there including Perrin Harkins (who, I suppose, is now really a NY Perl type, though we are actively trying to get him to return home). I am going to take a break from email after Tuesday, but will check message boards at OSCON for notes about LA.pm get-togethers. -- Eric Hammond ehammond@thinksome.com From jeff at xiir.net Mon Jul 22 21:46:17 2002 From: jeff at xiir.net (Jeff) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Haha, leave it to abe to hook it up right :) Alright, venice beach, august 10th, abe's roof it is. so the better question then is there a vacancy, abe, just how much beer can your fridge handle? :) Thanks all, esp abe -jeff On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Abraham Ingersoll wrote: > > Why on earth anyone would want to come down here on a summer weekend and > flight against the raging tide of tourists seems unfathomable now that > I've lived here so long, but uhh .. > > I offer up my building's roof. (It's boring as far as roofs go, but the > location is 'ight -- within view of the ocean/boardwalk/etc.) We had a 4th > of July BBQ up there that went well, and another neighbor's been having > live practice/concerts up there as of late too. > > Nearby -- Venice breakwater (OK surfing in the morning before it gets > windy), newly revamped boardwalk, basketball courts, drum circle, roller > skating dance "thing", psuedo-skatepark (that's still in funding limbo), > muscle beach, paddle tennis courts, venice canals, nightlife (MDR/Venice > pier scene and SM Main St. is all close), etc. > > We'd have 802.11b to my cablemodem whilst on the roof, and my studio > apartment/office has a couple of decent (quake-able?) workstations. > > The biggest pain in the ass is parking (and traffic). The average all-day > parking spot runs about $15, maybe $20. If you get here before noon, you > *might* be able to find street parking. I hear rumors of a Venice Beach > parking shuttle every so often too.. > > I'd setup shop with a BBQ on the roof, leave the access doors to > the stairs duct-taped open and then folks could come and go as their > inebriated selves pleased. > > Come to think of it .. if we did it at my place or nearby in Venice, I > could probably corral Greg, Joe, Barry and maybe a few other LA.pm > "lurkers" into making an appearance. > > August 10 should work for me. I need to clear it with the building > manager, but that should be a cinch. > > Anyone/everyone game? > > Abe > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > Oh bah, you're used to driving to MDR, you were doing it nightly for a > > while ;) > > > > Personally I am opting the most for Hermosa, just because A) alcohol is > > allowed in the park, however as far as I know you're not supposed to have > > it at the beach, so if a keg or whatever did show up, we couldn't do dick > > about it. For second, we can BBQ and have a good time then head for the > > beach. > > > > I suppose we could go as far as Malibu, but there really isn't anything > > fun over there. With Venice we get freaks (Hi abe :P). With MDR we get BBQ > > and boats and grass (tag football anyone?). With Hermosa we can get all of > > the above, but it is further south then some people would like. > > > > Well, Lets say Aug 10th, Around, noon to like whenever we all decide to go > > home. > > > > Now our activities really define where we go. Does anyone wanna bring some > > boards and surf? Play some football/baseball? > > Run around looking like an idiot rambling like a jackass about all the > > evil perl that haunts you in your sleep? (In this case we'd fit in best in > > venice) > > > > -jeff > > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > > > > > How many people realistically are into this? > > > > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) > > > > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. > > > > > > C) We are at OSCON. :-) > > > > > > I'm in for most dates in August, I think. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) > > > > > > > > > - ask > > > > > > -- > > > ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); > > > more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com > > > > > > > > From rdbenjamin at earthlink.net Mon Jul 22 22:39:09 2002 From: rdbenjamin at earthlink.net (Bob Benjamin) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Coolers can hold plenty of ice, as can trash cans with liners (one for beer, one to recycle the empties). BJ -----Original Message----- From: owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org [mailto:owner-losangeles-pm@pm.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:46 PM To: Abraham Ingersoll Cc: list@la.pm.org Subject: Re: LA.pm: What ever happend... Haha, leave it to abe to hook it up right :) Alright, venice beach, august 10th, abe's roof it is. so the better question then is there a vacancy, abe, just how much beer can your fridge handle? :) Thanks all, esp abe -jeff On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Abraham Ingersoll wrote: > > Why on earth anyone would want to come down here on a summer weekend and > flight against the raging tide of tourists seems unfathomable now that > I've lived here so long, but uhh .. > > I offer up my building's roof. (It's boring as far as roofs go, but the > location is 'ight -- within view of the ocean/boardwalk/etc.) We had a 4th > of July BBQ up there that went well, and another neighbor's been having > live practice/concerts up there as of late too. > > Nearby -- Venice breakwater (OK surfing in the morning before it gets > windy), newly revamped boardwalk, basketball courts, drum circle, roller > skating dance "thing", psuedo-skatepark (that's still in funding limbo), > muscle beach, paddle tennis courts, venice canals, nightlife (MDR/Venice > pier scene and SM Main St. is all close), etc. > > We'd have 802.11b to my cablemodem whilst on the roof, and my studio > apartment/office has a couple of decent (quake-able?) workstations. > > The biggest pain in the ass is parking (and traffic). The average all-day > parking spot runs about $15, maybe $20. If you get here before noon, you > *might* be able to find street parking. I hear rumors of a Venice Beach > parking shuttle every so often too.. > > I'd setup shop with a BBQ on the roof, leave the access doors to > the stairs duct-taped open and then folks could come and go as their > inebriated selves pleased. > > Come to think of it .. if we did it at my place or nearby in Venice, I > could probably corral Greg, Joe, Barry and maybe a few other LA.pm > "lurkers" into making an appearance. > > August 10 should work for me. I need to clear it with the building > manager, but that should be a cinch. > > Anyone/everyone game? > > Abe > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > Oh bah, you're used to driving to MDR, you were doing it nightly for a > > while ;) > > > > Personally I am opting the most for Hermosa, just because A) alcohol is > > allowed in the park, however as far as I know you're not supposed to have > > it at the beach, so if a keg or whatever did show up, we couldn't do dick > > about it. For second, we can BBQ and have a good time then head for the > > beach. > > > > I suppose we could go as far as Malibu, but there really isn't anything > > fun over there. With Venice we get freaks (Hi abe :P). With MDR we get BBQ > > and boats and grass (tag football anyone?). With Hermosa we can get all of > > the above, but it is further south then some people would like. > > > > Well, Lets say Aug 10th, Around, noon to like whenever we all decide to go > > home. > > > > Now our activities really define where we go. Does anyone wanna bring some > > boards and surf? Play some football/baseball? > > Run around looking like an idiot rambling like a jackass about all the > > evil perl that haunts you in your sleep? (In this case we'd fit in best in > > venice) > > > > -jeff > > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Jeff wrote: > > > > > > > How many people realistically are into this? > > > > If enough people are into it, lets go for it. This weekend is I think A) > > > > too soon of notice, and B) I'm moving. > > > > > > C) We are at OSCON. :-) > > > > > > I'm in for most dates in August, I think. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, then the farther north the better.. :-) > > > > > > > > > - ask > > > > > > -- > > > ask bjoern hansen, http://ask.netcetera.dk/ !try; do(); > > > more than a billion impressions per week, http://valueclick.com > > > > > > > > From rspier at pobox.com Tue Jul 23 22:28:14 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: <20020722235643.37564.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020722235643.37564.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15678.7886.277823.760433@rls.cx> >Ask and Robert are scheduled >to give talks Tuesday and Wednesday so I imagine they're >already here. I'm here (attending, not presenting) - how >many other LA.pm'ers are going to be down in San Diego >this week? > /me waves from the Internet Quiz Show, about five rows back and three seats in off the right aisle. -R From bbacker at yahoo.com Thu Jul 25 18:46:40 2002 From: bbacker at yahoo.com (Bryan Backer) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: <15678.7886.277823.760433@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020725234640.88426.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> --- Robert Spier wrote: > >Ask and Robert are scheduled > >to give talks Tuesday and Wednesday so I imagine they're > >already here. I'm here (attending, not presenting) - how > >many other LA.pm'ers are going to be down in San Diego > >this week? > > > > /me waves from the Internet Quiz Show, about five rows back and three > seats in off the right aisle. > > -R > Sorry - didn't get this in time. Judging by the laptops that abound, I'm one of the few stone-age non-wireless folks here and have to head down the basement to check mail. I saw you helping with some of the lightning talk videos (the Switch ads were hillarious) and saw Ask taking photos in the evening but haven't had a chance to catch up. I have to depart early Fri morning so most likely see you guys at the next LA.pm event. Bryan ===== ------------ bbacker@mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From rspier at pobox.com Thu Jul 25 19:01:26 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:18 2004 Subject: LA.pm: What ever happend... In-Reply-To: <20020725234640.88426.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <15678.7886.277823.760433@rls.cx> <20020725234640.88426.qmail@web12105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15680.37206.298273.218163@rls.cx> >Sorry - didn't get this in time. Judging by the >laptops that abound, I'm one of the few stone-age non-wireless >folks here and have to head down the basement to check >mail. I saw you helping with some of the lightning talk >videos (the Switch ads were hillarious) and saw Ask taking >photos in the evening but haven't had a chance to catch >up. I have to depart early Fri morning so most likely >see you guys at the next LA.pm event. Glad you enjoyed it - for everyone else: http://www.perl.org/tpc/2002/