From rspier at pobox.com Wed Aug 14 23:34:44 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software Message-ID: <15707.12132.177580.306270@rls.cx> FYI, As you've already noticed, we've switched mailing list software, and you receieved an email with some information about that. You should notice any (many?) changes from an end user perspective. You may need to update your list filters and other fun things like that. -R From pete at peterbenjamin.com Thu Aug 15 00:06:30 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <15707.12132.177580.306270@rls.cx> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020814220523.03969a70@peterbenjamin.com> At 09:34 PM 8/14/2002, Robert Spier wrote: >FYI, > > As you've already noticed, we've switched mailing list software, > and you receieved an email with some information about that. Thanks Robert for the work! I was waiting for the responsible mailing list maintainer to get the first post, so I could get the second post. ;-) See everyone soon! Pete From e at arix.com Thu Aug 15 00:52:00 2002 From: e at arix.com (Erick Calder) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020814220523.03969a70@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <001501c2441f$df73ac10$0400a8c0@arix.com> dumb question: how come the list didn't get named la@pm.org? -----Original Message----- From: losangeles-pm-admin@mail.pm.org [mailto:losangeles-pm-admin@mail.pm.org]On Behalf Of Peter Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:07 PM To: losangeles-pm@pm.org Subject: Re: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software At 09:34 PM 8/14/2002, Robert Spier wrote: >FYI, > > As you've already noticed, we've switched mailing list software, > and you receieved an email with some information about that. Thanks Robert for the work! I was waiting for the responsible mailing list maintainer to get the first post, so I could get the second post. ;-) See everyone soon! Pete _______________________________________________ Losangeles-pm mailing list Losangeles-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From rspier at pobox.com Thu Aug 15 01:21:08 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <001501c2441f$df73ac10$0400a8c0@arix.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020814220523.03969a70@peterbenjamin.com> <001501c2441f$df73ac10$0400a8c0@arix.com> Message-ID: <15707.18516.495946.893153@rls.cx> Erick Calder writes: >dumb question: how come the list didn't get named la@pm.org? Because originally (i.e. way back when) it was called losangeles-pm, and that's the naming convention used by the people who run the list machines. There's some stuff coming down the pipeline where we can setup a shortcut/alias. p.s. please post to the list from the address you are subscribed to it, so that your message doesn't need to go through moderation. -R From pete at peterbenjamin.com Thu Aug 15 02:26:11 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <15707.18516.495946.893153@rls.cx> References: <001501c2441f$df73ac10$0400a8c0@arix.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20020814220523.03969a70@peterbenjamin.com> <001501c2441f$df73ac10$0400a8c0@arix.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020815002321.00b8c8d0@peterbenjamin.com> At 11:21 PM 8/14/2002, Robert Spier wrote: >p.s. please post to the list from the address you are subscribed to >it, so that your message doesn't need to go through moderation. One way of doing this for those with a public sub address and a dominant main email address is to sub the dominant in mailman at http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm and then when you have confirmed your subscription, use the link in the welcome to edit your options for just your dominant subscription to not get posts and to not be displayed. I just did that now. So this should go through without moderation. Thanks Robert for pointing out this need to avoid working your fingers to nubs. Pete From ask at develooper.com Thu Aug 15 02:59:19 2002 From: ask at develooper.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020815002321.00b8c8d0@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <20020815005805.Q53015-100000@miette.develooper.com> On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Peter Benjamin wrote: With ezmlm ... ah, nevermind. :-) We'll hopefully get it moved over soon enough. - ask (who this week has been too busy with more urgent things to set up the new mail system, aargh) -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do(); From e at arix.com Thu Aug 15 22:58:02 2002 From: e at arix.com (Erick Calder) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020815002321.00b8c8d0@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <009001c244d9$1e7dfb40$0400a8c0@arix.com> took me a bit to understand what you were saying. to paraphrase: create a second account (with your primary account) and just don't use it (by turning it off) I've sent this message by setting my "reply-to" to the sub-account... I'm wondering whether it got moderated? -----Original Message----- From: losangeles-pm-admin@mail.pm.org [mailto:losangeles-pm-admin@mail.pm.org]On Behalf Of Peter Benjamin Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:26 AM To: losangeles-pm@pm.org Subject: RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software At 11:21 PM 8/14/2002, Robert Spier wrote: >p.s. please post to the list from the address you are subscribed to >it, so that your message doesn't need to go through moderation. One way of doing this for those with a public sub address and a dominant main email address is to sub the dominant in mailman at http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm and then when you have confirmed your subscription, use the link in the welcome to edit your options for just your dominant subscription to not get posts and to not be displayed. I just did that now. So this should go through without moderation. Thanks Robert for pointing out this need to avoid working your fingers to nubs. Pete _______________________________________________ Losangeles-pm mailing list Losangeles-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm From rspier at pobox.com Fri Aug 16 01:42:56 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <009001c244d9$1e7dfb40$0400a8c0@arix.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020815002321.00b8c8d0@peterbenjamin.com> <009001c244d9$1e7dfb40$0400a8c0@arix.com> Message-ID: <15708.40688.16649.223665@rls.cx> >I've sent this message by setting my "reply-to" to the sub-account... I'm >wondering whether it got moderated? Yes, it did. You need to set the From not the Reply-To. -R From perl at arix.com Fri Aug 16 02:03:45 2002 From: perl at arix.com (Erick Calder) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <15708.40688.16649.223665@rls.cx> Message-ID: <00a601c244f3$100267d0$0400a8c0@arix.com> grr... Outlook doesn't allow me to change that field (I'm going all Linux with my next PC :) so I guess I'll have to resubscribe. btw, wasn't it agreed that the BBQ would be the 17th? today's the 16th and I've yet to see and address or directions... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Spier [mailto:rspier@pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:43 PM To: perl@arix.com Cc: losangeles-pm@pm.org Subject: RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software >I've sent this message by setting my "reply-to" to the sub-account... I'm >wondering whether it got moderated? Yes, it did. You need to set the From not the Reply-To. -R From rspier at pobox.com Fri Aug 16 02:12:21 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Re: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15708.42453.663339.936995@rls.cx> >I suppose I need to post a map and make a formal announcement to make it >official, but I wanted to toss a quick message out the to list to make >sure everyone's still game. > >Well .. BBQ, beach, beer, band, fishing, venice .. anyone? Abe- I think consensus was that we're game - so if you're still game - and nobody pops up with an excuse why we shouldn't be game, why not make an official announcement tomorrow, with maps, and telling us what we should bring, if anything. -R From abe at dajoba.com Fri Aug 16 03:01:50 2002 From: abe at dajoba.com (Abraham Ingersoll) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Re: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: <15708.42453.663339.936995@rls.cx> Message-ID: My bad. http://www.dajoba.com/bbq.html I'll post an official announcement/reminder with last minute notes around noon tomorrow. --ai On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Robert Spier wrote: > >I suppose I need to post a map and make a formal announcement to make it > >official, but I wanted to toss a quick message out the to list to make > >sure everyone's still game. > > > >Well .. BBQ, beach, beer, band, fishing, venice .. anyone? > > Abe- > > I think consensus was that we're game - so if you're still game - and > nobody pops up with an excuse why we shouldn't be game, why not make > an official announcement tomorrow, with maps, and telling us what we > should bring, if anything. > > -R > > From pete at peterbenjamin.com Fri Aug 16 18:45:29 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <00a601c244f3$100267d0$0400a8c0@arix.com> References: <15708.40688.16649.223665@rls.cx> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> At 12:03 AM 8/16/2002, Erick Calder wrote: >grr... Outlook doesn't allow me to change that field (I'm going all Linux >with my next PC :) so I guess I'll have to resubscribe. Outlook requires a second account to be added. That will set the From for just that second account. All email readers are that way. Pete From md5 at embody.org Fri Aug 16 19:41:02 2002 From: md5 at embody.org (mike dillon) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> References: <15708.40688.16649.223665@rls.cx> <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <20020817004100.GA23278@eber.embody.org> begin Peter Benjamin quotation: > Outlook requires a second account to be added. > That will set the From for just that second account. > All email readers are that way. Not Mutt with "set edit_headers". I think there is some way to you can edit random headers in GNUS, as well. -md From jleader at alumni.caltech.edu Sat Aug 17 22:46:16 2002 From: jleader at alumni.caltech.edu (Jeremy Leader) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <20020817004100.GA23278@eber.embody.org> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> <15708.40688.16649.223665@rls.cx> <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020817204519.00cbdb10@mail.altrionet.com> At 05:41 PM 8/16/02 , mike dillon wrote: >begin Peter Benjamin quotation: > > Outlook requires a second account to be added. > > That will set the From for just that second account. > > All email readers are that way. > >Not Mutt with "set edit_headers". I think there is some way to you can >edit random headers in GNUS, as well. I think he meant "all GUI email readers are that way". Jeremy Leader From pete at peterbenjamin.com Sun Aug 18 02:24:36 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] RE: [Losangeles-pm] New List Software In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20020817204519.00cbdb10@mail.altrionet.com> References: <20020817004100.GA23278@eber.embody.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> <15708.40688.16649.223665@rls.cx> <4.3.2.7.2.20020816164442.054fee68@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020818002342.00b7a8e8@peterbenjamin.com> At 08:46 PM 8/17/2002, Jeremy Leader wrote: >At 05:41 PM 8/16/02 , mike dillon wrote: >>begin Peter Benjamin quotation: >> > Outlook requires a second account to be added. >> > That will set the From for just that second account. >> > All email readers are that way. >> >>Not Mutt with "set edit_headers". I think there is some way to you can >>edit random headers in GNUS, as well. > >I think he meant "all GUI email readers are that way". Well, let me rephrase that. All closed source are that way to prevent abuse, except those bulk mailers that explicitly have that as a feature. Pete From rspier at pobox.com Sun Aug 18 12:45:36 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting Message-ID: <15711.56640.925222.836353@rls.cx> Ok - Congrats to Abe for throwing a cool bbq/party yesterday. I wish I didn't have to leave before it really got started. So, it's time to start thinking about our next meeting.. Lets try and make it somewhat technical, towards the end of September? Anyone have anything perlish they'd like to talk about? -R From pete at peterbenjamin.com Sun Aug 18 17:53:30 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <15711.56640.925222.836353@rls.cx> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020818154550.00b6b6e0@peterbenjamin.com> At 10:45 AM 8/18/2002, Robert Spier wrote: >Ok - > > Congrats to Abe for throwing a cool bbq/party yesterday. Abe had it all at the party! Hot food, drinks, chips, and more. DJed with turntables before the band showed up. Abe can really throw a party! > So, it's time to start thinking about our next meeting.. Lets try > and make it somewhat technical, towards the end of September? Sound great! > Anyone have anything perlish they'd like to talk about? I'd like to know about passing by reference all sorts of array and hash types (multiple dimensions and slices of), and returning them, especially returning more than one type. With and without prototyping. I'm always willing to talk on Regular Expressions (REs), but this crowd might know them already. Any feedback on that? I give a 1.5 hour presentation and by the end everyone will be able to read even the most difficult RE, and everyone will be able to write basic ones. And know what it takes to write harder ones. A few of the CGI related ones will be covered like testing for a PO box, a phone number or credit card, reverse sorting email addresses from the TLD first. If any one needs help with a RE, then just post to the list. I'll write 'em from scratch too. Pete From ask at develooper.com Sun Aug 18 20:14:16 2002 From: ask at develooper.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020818154550.00b6b6e0@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <20020818181132.N50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Peter Benjamin wrote: > write harder ones. A few of the CGI related ones will be covered > like testing for a PO box, a phone number or credit card, I'd like to see you do a phone number regexp. Hah. ;-) - ask ps. let this joke be a hint. "Recently, a worldwide survey was conducted by the U.N. The question was asked, "Would you please give your opinion about the food shortage in the rest of the world?" The survey was a huge failure. In Africa they did not know what 'food' meant. In Western Europe, they did not know what 'shortage' meant. In Eastern Europe they did not know what 'opinion' meant. In South America they did not know what 'please' meant. And in the U.S. they did not know what 'the rest of the world' meant." -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do(); From ask at develooper.com Sun Aug 18 20:19:49 2002 From: ask at develooper.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <15711.56640.925222.836353@rls.cx> Message-ID: <20020818181433.B50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Robert Spier wrote: > So, it's time to start thinking about our next meeting.. Lets try > and make it somewhat technical, towards the end of September? Some talks we have in stock are: the "Quick CVS Tutorial" (all you need to know to start using CVS and a few things you probably didn't know even if you do use CVS every day; ~60 minutes). or "Real world performance tuning for mod_perl" (do more with less, setup proxies and caches to save lots of memory and make your database server idle; ~90 minutes). :-) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen, http://www.askbjoernhansen.com/ !try; do(); From rspier at pobox.com Sun Aug 18 23:28:50 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <20020818181433.B50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> References: <15711.56640.925222.836353@rls.cx> <20020818181433.B50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> Message-ID: <15712.29698.564501.359466@rls.cx> >"Real world performance tuning for mod_perl" (do more with less, >setup proxies and caches to save lots of memory and make your >database server idle; ~90 minutes). This one sounds cool. -R (who is intimately familiar with the CVS talk) From pete at peterbenjamin.com Mon Aug 19 19:22:55 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <20020818181132.N50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020818154550.00b6b6e0@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020819171744.04f0fdc8@peterbenjamin.com> At 06:14 PM 8/18/2002, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: >On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Peter Benjamin wrote: > >> write harder ones. A few of the CGI related ones will be covered >> like testing for a PO box, a phone number or credit card, > >I'd like to see you do a phone number regexp. Hah. > >;-) This stuff might seem quick to do, but turns out the full blown bells and whistles is not. Given the responses to date, I will wait a while longer for more people to read the posts to this mailing list and reply with their topics (to hear or to speak on) Well, it includes international phone numbers, and a second RE to reformat to a constant database format, with or without the parens and dashes, etc. The cc includes summing the digits and checking for what brand it is. And the reformating for db storage. And then there is the email syntax checking and using SMTP to verify the email userid. And appending .com to those AOL users not in the know. And changing Compuserve userid commas to periods. Pete From pete at peterbenjamin.com Mon Aug 19 19:23:43 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: <15712.29698.564501.359466@rls.cx> References: <20020818181433.B50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> <15711.56640.925222.836353@rls.cx> <20020818181433.B50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020819172329.00b7ac58@peterbenjamin.com> At 09:28 PM 8/18/2002, Robert Spier wrote: >>"Real world performance tuning for mod_perl" (do more with less, >>setup proxies and caches to save lots of memory and make your >>database server idle; ~90 minutes). > >This one sounds cool. ditto. Pete From pete at peterbenjamin.com Mon Aug 19 19:31:24 2002 From: pete at peterbenjamin.com (Peter Benjamin) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Math Parens parsing code needed In-Reply-To: <20020818181132.N50159-100000@miette.develooper.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020818154550.00b6b6e0@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020819172346.00b9ab00@peterbenjamin.com> Anyone know of open source for parsing mathematic expressions? The one at CPAN is fair. My needs extends to generating error messages calling out where the parsing problem occurs. For example: (34.5 * sin(.5) ) - tan(4.5 is missing the trailing parens. That is an easy one. Let's try 6 levels of paren nesting and calling out the first parsing error that occurs from left to right, the way a person reads. (Yes, I am trying to avoid this, but the client... insists.) Most code I have come across is abstracted to the level that trapping the problem paren case is too hard to modify the code. I looked at the perl source code for 'expr' - ugh. Source for bc ... Simtel, garbo, are two I have looked at. Old, but this paren parsing is an old problem. Not much perl there. Any other URLs - I can do the searching of a library, just need more references. I'd prefer perl, or java, or C, or awk, or sed, or any unix solution. llnl.gov did not have much, but it was all C. I did not actually look at the source code, as most was application specific. Pete From rspier at pobox.com Tue Aug 27 16:31:16 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:31:51 2004 Subject: [LA.pm] Completely Off Topic, something for sale Message-ID: <15723.61348.885730.725405@rls.cx> Since the thread about the next meeting seems to have completely petered out - although I think Ask will be talking about Optimizing Apache (location TBA, date TBA) I have some hardware for sale that I'd love to get off my hands. I've got two (well, three) Sun E250's with D1000 disk arrays. Right now they're in my car. That means I need to take them home and carry them up stairs and hope I don't damage anything (myself more likely than the servers.) If anyone is interested in these devices, please contact me off-list. I'm selling them for a friend, and the convenience of not having to lug them to Mailboxes Etc. and deal with EBay is worth a hefty discount. -R From abe at dajoba.com Tue Aug 13 17:46:12 2002 From: abe at dajoba.com (Abraham Ingersoll) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:19 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? Message-ID: Hi Folks, I just got word from Samy that la.pm.org's DNS is hosed for the time being. So use losangeles-pm@hfb.pm.org for now -- same list, different address. Samy'll post something once the pm.org DNS maintainer gets off his arse and updates the pm.org zone, but until then .. let's have a BBQ! Yeah! Everyone ready for an event this Saturday, the 17th? Venice Beach, roof-style, figure we start around 2pm .. go until it gets dark or we get booted of the roof, whichever comes first. I've cleared it with management, have told all the other neighbors, etc. Only comment from the manager was "no open flames -- the fire insurance doesn't cover that." Masow (sp?), the musical neighbor on the 2nd floor, says he'll be there, ready to play with his band. I suppose I need to post a map and make a formal announcement to make it official, but I wanted to toss a quick message out the to list to make sure everyone's still game. Well .. BBQ, beach, beer, band, fishing, venice .. anyone? Abe From jeff at xiir.net Tue Aug 13 18:48:25 2002 From: jeff at xiir.net (Jeff) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:19 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm still game :) -jeff On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Abraham Ingersoll wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I just got word from Samy that la.pm.org's DNS is hosed for the time > being. So use losangeles-pm@hfb.pm.org for now -- same list, different > address. Samy'll post something once the pm.org DNS maintainer gets off > his arse and updates the pm.org zone, but until then .. let's have a BBQ! > Yeah! > > Everyone ready for an event this Saturday, the 17th? Venice Beach, > roof-style, figure we start around 2pm .. go until it gets dark or we get > booted of the roof, whichever comes first. > > I've cleared it with management, have told all the other neighbors, etc. > Only comment from the manager was "no open flames -- the fire insurance > doesn't cover that." Masow (sp?), the musical neighbor on the 2nd floor, > says he'll be there, ready to play with his band. > > I suppose I need to post a map and make a formal announcement to make it > official, but I wanted to toss a quick message out the to list to make > sure everyone's still game. > > Well .. BBQ, beach, beer, band, fishing, venice .. anyone? > > Abe > > From abe at dajoba.com Tue Aug 13 19:34:56 2002 From: abe at dajoba.com (Abraham Ingersoll) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:19 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020813170647.02e59908@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Peter Benjamin wrote: > Sounds Great. Count me in. Now just need to know where. > Thanks for arranging this. Main topic for 20 minutes ought > to be how to put together the next meeting(s). Like who > will be the getter of speakers, who can speak on what topic, > and where can we have a venue with the right equipment. > I highly doubt we'll ever get everyone standing still in one place for very long, but more power to anyone who wants to take the ball on organizing further LA.pm events. > Is this a bring your food and b? Yes, BYOB and BYOF. I'm poor -- have location, misc accessories, but that's it. The girlfriend will probably whip up a potatoe salad or something, but don't expect to be fed unless it's your own feed. > Is there a BBQ on the roof? No. Management is against this, but I'll try to work something out and will post details to the list as I have a workaround. (electric grill? george foreman grill? hotplate? Hm) > Will laptops be optional, and do you have enough > power outlets and switches and cat 5 cabling? An 802.11b access point connected to AT&T broadband should be accessible, if you must bring a laptop. There are actaully a couple of power outlets on the roof too. I expect this is more of a "go be in sun, drink beer, bullshit with other perl users whilst we do non-perl things" type of event than uhh.. oscon or whatever. Abe From abe at dajoba.com Tue Aug 13 20:25:56 2002 From: abe at dajoba.com (Abraham Ingersoll) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:19 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020813175631.04184448@peterbenjamin.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Peter Benjamin wrote: > Is it BYOG and BYOC? (Glass and chair, might as well add plate and fork;) We've got about four chairs up there already, and can rustle up a good 10 or so more from misc tenants if we need to. In the past, folks ahve usually stood around, ate, watched the band, then headed out for greener pastures nearby. > I think I bring something to nuke. Do you have one of those? Yeah, there's a nuker in apt 305. > What time is closing? Or is this going be all night? Sunset (~ 7:30, 8PM), or earlier if my flatulence clears the place out before then. Abe From allenday at ucla.edu Tue Aug 13 21:05:51 2002 From: allenday at ucla.edu (Allen Day) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:19 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: i'll be there. what's the address? -Allen On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Abraham Ingersoll wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I just got word from Samy that la.pm.org's DNS is hosed for the time > being. So use losangeles-pm@hfb.pm.org for now -- same list, different > address. Samy'll post something once the pm.org DNS maintainer gets off > his arse and updates the pm.org zone, but until then .. let's have a BBQ! > Yeah! > > Everyone ready for an event this Saturday, the 17th? Venice Beach, > roof-style, figure we start around 2pm .. go until it gets dark or we get > booted of the roof, whichever comes first. > > I've cleared it with management, have told all the other neighbors, etc. > Only comment from the manager was "no open flames -- the fire insurance > doesn't cover that." Masow (sp?), the musical neighbor on the 2nd floor, > says he'll be there, ready to play with his band. > > I suppose I need to post a map and make a formal announcement to make it > official, but I wanted to toss a quick message out the to list to make > sure everyone's still game. > > Well .. BBQ, beach, beer, band, fishing, venice .. anyone? > > Abe > > From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Aug 13 21:01:57 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:19 2004 Subject: LA.pm: [Fwd: BOUNCE losangeles-pm@pm.org: Non-member submission from [Peter Benjamin ]] Message-ID: <3D59BA15.8080706@LucidX.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:04:29 -0700 To: Abraham Ingersoll From: Peter Benjamin Subject: Re: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? Cc: losangeles-pm@happyfunball.pm.org In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020813170647.02e59908@peterbenjamin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:34 PM 8/13/2002, Abraham Ingersoll wrote: >I highly doubt we'll ever get everyone standing still in one place for >very long, but more power to anyone who wants to take the ball on >organizing further LA.pm events. I'll give it a shot. At least see if there are any experts in the group I wish to hear talk, and then book them to do so. ;-) >> Is this a bring your food and b? > >Yes, BYOB and BYOF. Is it BYOG and BYOC? (Glass and chair, might as well add plate and fork;) >that's it. The girlfriend Wow, you have one of those too! >will probably whip up a potatoe salad or >something, but don't expect to be fed unless it's your own feed. I think I bring something to nuke. Do you have one of those? >An 802.11b access point connected to AT&T broadband should be accessible, I just returned a stinking DLink 615+, firmware so buggy it caused on /var/log/messages on my mail server 200 miles away. I returned the DWL 650+ with it. >I expect this is more of a "go be in sun, drink beer, bullshit with other >perl users whilst we do non-perl things" type of event than uhh.. oscon or That sets the tone. Laptops, if one must. What time is closing? Or is this going be all night? Sorry for all the questions. Last weekend I had way too much to do, and Sunday I sat indoors with my sunburned face. So partee this coming weekend at Abe's place sounds great! Pete -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From abe at dajoba.com Tue Aug 13 21:10:55 2002 From: abe at dajoba.com (Abraham Ingersoll) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:20 2004 Subject: LA.pm: LA.pm BBQ - everyone ready? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: 24 17th Ave, up the access door straight to the roof Venice, CA 90291 I'll post a detailed map with parking suggestions and whatnot later this week.. Abe On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Allen Day wrote: > i'll be there. what's the address? > > -Allen From szelnick2000 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 13 21:20:42 2002 From: szelnick2000 at yahoo.com (Sagi Z) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:20 2004 Subject: LA.pm: address? Message-ID: <20020814022042.57280.qmail@web14308.mail.yahoo.com> Whats the address?? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From rspier at pobox.com Tue Aug 13 21:46:28 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:20 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Still Exists! Message-ID: <15705.50308.760612.582546@rls.cx> A few weeks ago our glorious leader Samy left us and moved to San Diego, that lesser, yet still beautiful, city to the south. He took with him the machine that was hosting the website and forwarding the mailing list. So... for now- we don't have a website. I just need to figure out which machine it goes on, and then it'll be back. The mailing list can be reached at: losangeles-pm@pm.org Now back to what we were chatting about before... we were planning a BBQ. I propose Sunday, August 25th. That gives us a week to nail down the details, and then a week of notice for people to plan to attend. There were a few potential locations, including a beachfront roof. Was there any consensus? -R From rspier at pobox.com Tue Aug 13 21:54:23 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:20 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Oops! Message-ID: <15705.50783.193330.87186@rls.cx> That's what I get for mailing before reading mail that arrived in the last few hours. Looks like the discussion is well on its way. -R -- From SKamkar at LucidX.com Tue Aug 13 22:59:16 2002 From: SKamkar at LucidX.com (Samy Kamkar) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:20 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Still Exists! References: <15705.50308.760612.582546@rls.cx> Message-ID: <3D59D594.8040508@LucidX.com> Herm...not sure if my email went through earlier today -- but the website is up, at http://lucidx.com/lapm/ (details on the meeting will be posted there, although I'm sure Abe will post it elsewhere, as well) .. And the reason it's not at la.pm.org is because the pm.org DNS coordinator hasn't changed the IP to where it should be pointing to, yet (which I've asked some time ago). And yes, the list is still up. But most importantly, no, San Diego happens to be more beautiful ;) -Samy Robert Spier wrote: > A few weeks ago our glorious leader Samy left us and moved to San > Diego, that lesser, yet still beautiful, city to the south. > > He took with him the machine that was hosting the website and > forwarding the mailing list. > > So... for now- > we don't have a website. I just need to figure out which machine > it goes on, and then it'll be back. > > The mailing list can be reached at: > losangeles-pm@pm.org > > Now back to what we were chatting about before... > > we were planning a BBQ. > > I propose Sunday, August 25th. That gives us a week to nail down the > details, and then a week of notice for people to plan to attend. > > There were a few potential locations, including a beachfront roof. > Was there any consensus? > > -R > > > > -- Samy Kamkar -- cp5 -- SKamkar@LucidX.com LucidX.com / LA.pm.org / code.LucidX.com From rspier at pobox.com Tue Aug 13 23:22:32 2002 From: rspier at pobox.com (Robert Spier) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:02:20 2004 Subject: LA.pm: Los Angeles Perl Mongers Still Exists! In-Reply-To: <002901c24347$5ed4f970$0400a8c0@arix.com> References: <15705.50308.760612.582546@rls.cx> <002901c24347$5ed4f970$0400a8c0@arix.com> Message-ID: <15705.56072.691469.219188@rls.cx> Erick Calder writes: >hei if you need a machine to host it I'm happy to do it. but I'm on a DSL >so if you have a lot of traffic I won't serve well... Thanks for the offer, but we're good with potential machines. I think (once Samy settles) we'll try and move it to either the current pm.org webserver or the top-secret new one. -Robert Systems Administrator, perl.org