From dannyz at belgonet.com Tue Jan 2 16:51:51 2001 From: dannyz at belgonet.com (Danny Zak) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: Crypt:: on nt Message-ID: <1738641475.20010102235151@belgonet.com> ello.. I'm trying to do write some crypt routines.. i'm in a win32 envir. (nt) and can't properly install crypt:des & crypt:cbc anyone got some experience on this level ? it seems that my nmake.exe isn't accurate enough ??? i should need to use make from vc++ 5.0 respons may be direct via e-mail or in this list (if this isn't off topic discussion) sincerely, danny From rondal at usa.net Wed Jan 3 01:35:07 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: Crypt:: on nt References: <1738641475.20010102235151@belgonet.com> Message-ID: <014601c07558$67958d40$c726000a@gbank.be> Danny, I don't know if this is of any help, but I'll send you a copy of vc++5.0 nmake.exe Let me know if this has solved the problem. I've never installed these modules myself. What are you tring to do with these crypt::* modules? Stephane ----- Original Message ----- From: Danny Zak To: Liege Perl Mongers Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:51 PM Subject: Crypt:: on nt > ello.. > > I'm trying to do write some crypt routines.. > > i'm in a win32 envir. (nt) and can't properly install crypt:des > & crypt:cbc > > anyone got some experience on this level ? it seems that my > nmake.exe isn't accurate enough ??? i should need to use make > from vc++ 5.0 > > respons may be direct via e-mail or in this list (if this isn't > off topic discussion) > > > sincerely, > > > danny > > From rondal at usa.net Wed Jan 3 01:59:15 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: Tr: [orwant@oreilly.com: The state of TPJ] Message-ID: <016e01c0755b$12bb1c60$c726000a@gbank.be> > ----- Forwarded message from Jon Orwant ----- > > Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:18:48 -0500 > To: Jon Orwant > > January 2, 2001 > > Some folks have been asking me about the status of The Perl > Journal #20, and prospective authors have been asking me > about deadlines for future issues. The answers: TPJ #20 is > in press and ready to print, but EarthWeb (the owner of TPJ) > has told the printer to stop the presses until further > notice. I am currently responding to proposals sent to me > with approximately "I don't know if there's going to be > another issue, but when I do I'll respond to your proposal." > > Since the future of the magazine is in doubt, I can't in > good conscience greenlight proposals; I will not encourage > an author to spend weeks writing an article when I know that > it might never be printed. So I've told people who've asked > what I know about the current situation: while EarthWeb has > sold many of its properties to internet.com so that it can > focus on "career services", it has not sold TPJ. However, > EarthWeb has also made it clear that they don't want to > publish TPJ any more. > > This story has started to leak out to the Perl community and > has already mutated a bit in not-quite-correct directions, > so I wanted to write this note to set the record straight. > Or as straight as I can, given what little I know about > EarthWeb's decisions. > > While TPJ's future is very much up in the air, people > shouldn't take this as any indicator about Perl itself. > TPJ was doing just fine back when I ran it, there's no > shortage of content out there, and the magazine could easily > go bimonthly and then monthly -- indeed, when EarthWeb > acquired TPJ I had thought that was the plan. I still enjoy > the editing, the authors enjoy the writing, and the > designers enjoy the designing. What happens now is up to > EarthWeb. And no, I'm not suggesting that people bombard > them with email. Heck, they just laid off 100 people, so > I'm not even sure who to bombard. Eventually there will be > some resolution, and when there is I'll write again to let > everyone know. > > As of December 27th, this matter is now in the courts, and > so I have to adopt the "just the facts" tone of this letter > without portraying my opinions. Someday I'll be able to > talk more about what is happening in these strange days; > until then, you'll have to conjure up your own adjectives on > my behalf. > > Cheers, > > Jon Orwant > > ----- End forwarded message ----- From dannyz at belgonet.com Thu Jan 4 17:01:51 2001 From: dannyz at belgonet.com (Danny Zak) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: encryption & decryption Message-ID: <1102352142.20010105000151@belgonet.com> ello anyone familiar with encrypting & decrypting data ? I have a database that contains adress info of clients, i want to encrypt it, so In case somebody steals the database its useless for the person who doesn't know the decryption system. It has to be able to run on NT, i tried some things, but really can't figure it out (I don't want to use pgp encryption!) If you have any questions, whatsoever, please feel free to contact us. Best regards, Danny Zak mailto:dannyz@belgonet.com co-ceo Euro-Pictures/belGOnet.com Princesse Elisabeth Square 9/11 1030 Brussels Belgium Tel : +32-(0)2-215.67.65 Fax : +32-(0)2-215.66.65 From rondal at usa.net Fri Jan 5 02:54:41 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: encryption & decryption References: <1102352142.20010105000151@belgonet.com> Message-ID: <033001c076f5$265f0380$c726000a@gbank.be> > anyone familiar with encrypting & decrypting data ? > > I have a database that contains adress info of clients, i want to > encrypt it, so In case somebody steals the database its useless for > the person who doesn't know the decryption system. > > It has to be able to run on NT, i tried some things, but really can't > figure it out (I don't want to use pgp encryption!) > > Not really familiar with encryption, except with MD5, but 2 ideas out of my mind: I think you've been trying to use Crypt-DES and Crypt-CBC from CPAN. Where exactly lies the problem? Compilation under NT, tests failed, ... ? Let us know. Have you tried to use the Pure Perl (PP) versions of these modules: Crypt-DES_PP or even Crypt-Blowfish_PP? These should not give you any compatibility problems. The other idea is not really Perl related: use your database encryption facilities. However I can't help there, except maybe under Oracle. Stephane From rondal at usa.net Fri Jan 5 03:02:05 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: 2nd PM meeting Message-ID: <034e01c076f6$32239900$c726000a@gbank.be> Our 2nd Liege.pm meeting will probably be held sometime in February, location still undefined. I hope to have a few goodies to give around, like back issues of TPJ. Who's up for this? Stephane From beatnik at linuxfreak.com Fri Jan 5 06:01:53 2001 From: beatnik at linuxfreak.com (Hendrik Van Belleghem) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: encryption & decryption In-Reply-To: <1102352142.20010105000151@belgonet.com> Message-ID: > anyone familiar with encrypting & decrypting data ? > > I have a database that contains adress info of clients, i want to > encrypt it, so In case somebody steals the database its useless for > the person who doesn't know the decryption system. Some personal thoughts: Data in Databases usually is already encrypted in such a way that you cant use a plain hex viewer to steal data. Databases also have access restriction (which in some cases is quite good) having the data is not like having THE DATA =) If people would have access to your encrypted data (encrypted with any kind of algoritm you come up with), they usually also have (or can get) access to the script itself. In which case they can easily look into the code (even if it means disassembling it first) and decrypt the data. Doing Queries and updates on encrypted data can be quite difficult. Imagine a SELECT * FROM TABLE WHERE NAME = "John Doe" on a table that only contains things like "Ag,jjzfnznddzn,kzdnczlaal;" (Random key tapping (c) 2001) IMHO the cleanest solution would be either to have a Database script that can handle queries on encrypted data, and outputs it the way you want it. anyway, just my $0.02 --- Greetz Hendrik ... I'm not an addict (maybe that's a lie) - Not an addict - K's Choice From rondal at usa.net Tue Jan 9 15:51:51 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: perl formats Message-ID: <003e01c07a86$88fa8660$c726000a@gbank.be> Using perl formats, I'm simply trying to print: |x|, that is x, a meanlingless value, ***enclosed between two 'or' bars, without additional spaces*** So, here goes: format STDOUT = |@| $x The problem with this is that it will print (for $x = 1): |1 The second 'or' bar is missing because it has been interpreted by perl as the center aligned format directive. I've also tried |@<| and other variants, as well as escaping the 'or' bar, but I always end up with an unwanted space between 1 and the closing 'or' bar, or even the escape character '\' itself. Finally I came up with: format STDOUT = |@< $x.'|' which means: left aligned on 2 characters (@<) and use the concatenation operator to manually add the closing 'or' bar. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY! Any ideas? Stephane PS. I know this may seem an overkill use of perl formats, but this is just part of a bigger format From rondal at usa.net Fri Jan 12 01:52:16 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: Fw: First CFP: YAPC 2001 in Montreal (en/fr) Message-ID: <006f01c07c6c$c851f360$c726000a@gbank.be> ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin lenzo To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: First CFP: YAPC 2001 in Montreal (en/fr) > > # CFP in English, followed by French (see below) # > > Third North American YAPC: First Call for Participation > > Yet Another Society > calls for your participation in > > YAPC 2001 > the Third North American > Yet Another Perl Conference > > http://yapc.org/America/ > > McGill University, > Montreal, Quebec > > Wednesday through Friday > June 13-15, 2001 > > YAPC is a place for people to meet and talk about Perl -- where people > who've done interesting things, people who are working on the language > itself, people who are using it daily, and people who are looking to > learn about it are all within arm's reach. Some of the great authors > and coders in the field will be on hand to discuss their work, as well > as the nature and direction of Perl itself. > > Please join us for three days of listening and talking about Perl in > Montreal. > > * Conference registration will be available by Feb. 1, 2001 at > http://na-register.yapc.org/ > > * Dorm rooms will be available at the University (rates TBA); the dorm > request information will be on the website and registration form. > Registration Cost: CAD$125 (about USD$85) > > * We are looking for sponsors. Please contact Kevin Lenzo > (lenzo@yapc.org) for information about how you can help support the > Yet Another society and YAPC. Much of the necessary funding for YAPC > comes from the generous donations of our sponsors. > > * Submitted papers: > Submission Deadline: May 1, 2001 > > All topics are welcome. Here is a short list of subjects that might > be presented: > > XML, CGI/Web, Interprocess Communication, GUIs (GTk, Tk), Natural > Language Processing, Interactive Perl, Agents, Perl as Glue, > Object-Oriented Perl, Scientific Applications, Guts, Internals, > JAPHs, Perl Poetry, System Administration, DBI/DBD, Non-UNIX Perl, > Security, Peer-to-Peer Communication, Your Favourite Topic. > > Please submit your abstracts to . Authors are > requested to limit their abstracts to one or two paragraphs for > Lightning Talks, and to 300 words for other talks. > > This year we will accept a number of types of talks: > > * Lightning: 5 minutes > > The lightning talks were instigated by Mark-Jason Dominus last > year in Pittsburgh, and were replicated with great success at > the European YAPC in London. > > Participants speak for no more than five minutes, with the use > of conventional transparencies. Any use of data projector, etc, > is discouraged, but allowed as long as the five minute time limit > is maintained (set-up will be done as the clock ticks). The talk > ends at the five-minute mark, regardless of whether or not the > speaker has finished. > > Any topic is allowed, and some have been fantastically humourous. > Lightning talks are an excellent forum for first-time speakers. > > * Standard: 20 minutes > > A 'standard' talk is the preferred format. This is enough time > to start a topic, introduce it with some pithy slides, and open > up to later conversation. > > * Long and Extra-Long: 45 minutes, 90 minutes > > Long talks are reserved for experienced speakers covering large > topics. If you have an in-depth topic you would like to present > in some detail, perhaps with considerable discussion, a Long or > Extra-Long talk may be the format of choice. > > * Tutorial: 3 hours + break (possibly in two sets) > > Half-day (or possibly full-day) tutorials. > > Please submit your abstracts to ! > > -- > > Yet Another Society is a non-profit organization for the advancement > of collaborative efforts in computer and information sciences. YAS > promotes symposia, teaching, and group projects. See > http://yetanother.org for more information. > > -------------- > > > Troisime YAPC Amrique du Nord: premier appel la participation > > Yet Another Society > vous invite participer > > YAPC 2001 > La troisime > Yet Another Perl Conference > en Amrique du Nord > > http://yapc.org/America/ > > Universit McGill, > Montral, Qubec > > Du mercredi au vendredi > 13 au 15 juin, 2001 > > YAPC est un endroit o se rencontrer et parler de Perl; o sont runis > des gens qui ont fait des choses intressantes, qui travaillent sur le > langage lui-mme, qui utilisent ce langage tous les jours et qui > veulent en apprendre plus. Quelques uns des meilleurs auteurs et > codeurs dans le domaine seront prsents pour discuter de leur travail, > ainsi que de la nature et de l'avenir du langage Perl lui-mme. > > Joignez-vous donc nous Montral pendant trois jours pour parler et > entendre parler de Perl. > > Inscrivez-vous la confrence ds le 1er fvrier: > http://na-register.yapc.org/ > > * Des rsidences tudiantes pour les participants seront disponibles > sur le campus de l'universit (les tarifs seront annoncs plus > tard); le formulaire d'inscription donnera toutes les informations > ncessaires ce sujet. > Frais d'inscription la confrence: 125$CDN (environ 85$US). > > * Nous sommes la recherche de commanditaires. Veuillez contacter > Kevin Lenzo (lenzo@yapc.org) pour savoir comment vous pouvez > encourager la Yet Another Society et YAPC. Une grande partie des > fonds ncessaires YAPC proviennent en effet des gnreuses > contributions de nos commanditaires. > > * Date de tombe pour la soumission des communications: 1er mai 2001 > > Tous les sujets sont bienvenus. Voici une liste non-exhaustive de > sujets possibles: > > XML, CGI/web, communication inter-processus, GUIs (Gtk, Tk), > traitement du langage naturel, Perl interactif,agents, Perl comme > langage-"colle", Perl orient-objet, applications scientifiques, > entrailles, JAPHs, posie Perl,administration de systmes, DBI/DBD, > Perl non-Unix, scurit, communication 'peer-to-peer', ... > > Veuillez soumettre vos rsums . Les auteurs > sont pris de limiter leurs rsums un ou deux paragraphes pour les > communications clair, et 300 mots pour les autres communications. > > Cette anne, nous acceptons plusieurs sortes de communications: > > * Communication clair: 5 minutes > > Les communications clair ont t introduites l't dernier > Pittsburgh par Mark-Jason Dominus et ont t reprises avec beaucoup > de succs au YAPC europen Londres. > > Les participants disposent d'un maximum de cinq minutes pour > prsenter leur communication, habituellement l'aide d'un > rtroprojecteur. Tout autre mcanisme de prsentation est > dconseill, mais permis dans la mesure o la limite de cinq minutes > est respecte (l'installation se fait pendant que le temps s'coule). > La communication se termine au bout de cinq minutes, que le > prsentateur ait termin ou non. > > Tout sujet est accept, et cela a donn lieu dans le pass des > communications hautement humoristiques. Les communications clair > constituent un excellent forum pour des gens qui en sont leurs > premires prsentations. > > * Standard: 20 minutes > > La communication standard constitue le format prfr. Il y a > suffisamment de temps pour introduire le sujet, prsenter quelques > transparents bien choisis et permettre la discussion. > > * Longue et extra-longue: 45 minutes, 90 minutes > > Ces communications sont rserves aux prsentateurs expriments et > elles couvrent des sujets plus vastes. Si vous dsirez prsenter un > sujet et le discuter en dtail, ce format pourrait s'avrer appropri. > > * Tutoriel: 3 heures + une pause > > Tutoriels d'une demi-journe, et possiblement d'une journe complte. > > > Veuillez sounmettre vos rsums ! > > Nous vous remercions et nous esprons que vous participerez en grand > nombre. Si vous avez des questions, communiquez avec . > > -- > > Yet Another Society est une socit but non-lucratif voue > l'avancement d'efforts colaboratifs en informatique et en sciences de > l'information. YAS promouvoit des symposiums, de l'enseignement et des > projets de groupe. Pour plus d'informations, voir http://yetanother.org/. > > **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** > **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe groups" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** From rondal at usa.net Fri Jan 12 06:14:10 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: FW: First CFP: YAPC 2001 in Montreal (en/fr) Message-ID: <00dd01c07c91$2d4d0ba0$c726000a@gbank.be> Sorry to have to resend this, but some of your address have given me a 'mail delivery error'. Stephane ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin lenzo To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:21 PM Subject: First CFP: YAPC 2001 in Montreal (en/fr) > > # CFP in English, followed by French (see below) # > > Third North American YAPC: First Call for Participation > > Yet Another Society > calls for your participation in > > YAPC 2001 > the Third North American > Yet Another Perl Conference > > http://yapc.org/America/ > > McGill University, > Montreal, Quebec > > Wednesday through Friday > June 13-15, 2001 > > YAPC is a place for people to meet and talk about Perl -- where people > who've done interesting things, people who are working on the language > itself, people who are using it daily, and people who are looking to > learn about it are all within arm's reach. Some of the great authors > and coders in the field will be on hand to discuss their work, as well > as the nature and direction of Perl itself. > > Please join us for three days of listening and talking about Perl in > Montreal. > > * Conference registration will be available by Feb. 1, 2001 at > http://na-register.yapc.org/ > > * Dorm rooms will be available at the University (rates TBA); the dorm > request information will be on the website and registration form. > Registration Cost: CAD$125 (about USD$85) > > * We are looking for sponsors. Please contact Kevin Lenzo > (lenzo@yapc.org) for information about how you can help support the > Yet Another society and YAPC. Much of the necessary funding for YAPC > comes from the generous donations of our sponsors. > > * Submitted papers: > Submission Deadline: May 1, 2001 > > All topics are welcome. Here is a short list of subjects that might > be presented: > > XML, CGI/Web, Interprocess Communication, GUIs (GTk, Tk), Natural > Language Processing, Interactive Perl, Agents, Perl as Glue, > Object-Oriented Perl, Scientific Applications, Guts, Internals, > JAPHs, Perl Poetry, System Administration, DBI/DBD, Non-UNIX Perl, > Security, Peer-to-Peer Communication, Your Favourite Topic. > > Please submit your abstracts to . Authors are > requested to limit their abstracts to one or two paragraphs for > Lightning Talks, and to 300 words for other talks. > > This year we will accept a number of types of talks: > > * Lightning: 5 minutes > > The lightning talks were instigated by Mark-Jason Dominus last > year in Pittsburgh, and were replicated with great success at > the European YAPC in London. > > Participants speak for no more than five minutes, with the use > of conventional transparencies. Any use of data projector, etc, > is discouraged, but allowed as long as the five minute time limit > is maintained (set-up will be done as the clock ticks). The talk > ends at the five-minute mark, regardless of whether or not the > speaker has finished. > > Any topic is allowed, and some have been fantastically humourous. > Lightning talks are an excellent forum for first-time speakers. > > * Standard: 20 minutes > > A 'standard' talk is the preferred format. This is enough time > to start a topic, introduce it with some pithy slides, and open > up to later conversation. > > * Long and Extra-Long: 45 minutes, 90 minutes > > Long talks are reserved for experienced speakers covering large > topics. If you have an in-depth topic you would like to present > in some detail, perhaps with considerable discussion, a Long or > Extra-Long talk may be the format of choice. > > * Tutorial: 3 hours + break (possibly in two sets) > > Half-day (or possibly full-day) tutorials. > > Please submit your abstracts to ! > > -- > > Yet Another Society is a non-profit organization for the advancement > of collaborative efforts in computer and information sciences. YAS > promotes symposia, teaching, and group projects. See > http://yetanother.org for more information. > > -------------- > > > Troisime YAPC Amrique du Nord: premier appel la participation > > Yet Another Society > vous invite participer > > YAPC 2001 > La troisime > Yet Another Perl Conference > en Amrique du Nord > > http://yapc.org/America/ > > Universit McGill, > Montral, Qubec > > Du mercredi au vendredi > 13 au 15 juin, 2001 > > YAPC est un endroit o se rencontrer et parler de Perl; o sont runis > des gens qui ont fait des choses intressantes, qui travaillent sur le > langage lui-mme, qui utilisent ce langage tous les jours et qui > veulent en apprendre plus. Quelques uns des meilleurs auteurs et > codeurs dans le domaine seront prsents pour discuter de leur travail, > ainsi que de la nature et de l'avenir du langage Perl lui-mme. > > Joignez-vous donc nous Montral pendant trois jours pour parler et > entendre parler de Perl. > > Inscrivez-vous la confrence ds le 1er fvrier: > http://na-register.yapc.org/ > > * Des rsidences tudiantes pour les participants seront disponibles > sur le campus de l'universit (les tarifs seront annoncs plus > tard); le formulaire d'inscription donnera toutes les informations > ncessaires ce sujet. > Frais d'inscription la confrence: 125$CDN (environ 85$US). > > * Nous sommes la recherche de commanditaires. Veuillez contacter > Kevin Lenzo (lenzo@yapc.org) pour savoir comment vous pouvez > encourager la Yet Another Society et YAPC. Une grande partie des > fonds ncessaires YAPC proviennent en effet des gnreuses > contributions de nos commanditaires. > > * Date de tombe pour la soumission des communications: 1er mai 2001 > > Tous les sujets sont bienvenus. Voici une liste non-exhaustive de > sujets possibles: > > XML, CGI/web, communication inter-processus, GUIs (Gtk, Tk), > traitement du langage naturel, Perl interactif,agents, Perl comme > langage-"colle", Perl orient-objet, applications scientifiques, > entrailles, JAPHs, posie Perl,administration de systmes, DBI/DBD, > Perl non-Unix, scurit, communication 'peer-to-peer', ... > > Veuillez soumettre vos rsums . Les auteurs > sont pris de limiter leurs rsums un ou deux paragraphes pour les > communications clair, et 300 mots pour les autres communications. > > Cette anne, nous acceptons plusieurs sortes de communications: > > * Communication clair: 5 minutes > > Les communications clair ont t introduites l't dernier > Pittsburgh par Mark-Jason Dominus et ont t reprises avec beaucoup > de succs au YAPC europen Londres. > > Les participants disposent d'un maximum de cinq minutes pour > prsenter leur communication, habituellement l'aide d'un > rtroprojecteur. Tout autre mcanisme de prsentation est > dconseill, mais permis dans la mesure o la limite de cinq minutes > est respecte (l'installation se fait pendant que le temps s'coule). > La communication se termine au bout de cinq minutes, que le > prsentateur ait termin ou non. > > Tout sujet est accept, et cela a donn lieu dans le pass des > communications hautement humoristiques. Les communications clair > constituent un excellent forum pour des gens qui en sont leurs > premires prsentations. > > * Standard: 20 minutes > > La communication standard constitue le format prfr. Il y a > suffisamment de temps pour introduire le sujet, prsenter quelques > transparents bien choisis et permettre la discussion. > > * Longue et extra-longue: 45 minutes, 90 minutes > > Ces communications sont rserves aux prsentateurs expriments et > elles couvrent des sujets plus vastes. Si vous dsirez prsenter un > sujet et le discuter en dtail, ce format pourrait s'avrer appropri. > > * Tutoriel: 3 heures + une pause > > Tutoriels d'une demi-journe, et possiblement d'une journe complte. > > > Veuillez sounmettre vos rsums ! > > Nous vous remercions et nous esprons que vous participerez en grand > nombre. Si vous avez des questions, communiquez avec . > > -- > > Yet Another Society est une socit but non-lucratif voue > l'avancement d'efforts colaboratifs en informatique et en sciences de > l'information. YAS promouvoit des symposiums, de l'enseignement et des > projets de groupe. Pour plus d'informations, voir http://yetanother.org/. > > **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** > **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe groups" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** From stefaan.colson at sitel.com Mon Jan 15 04:30:04 2001 From: stefaan.colson at sitel.com (Stefaan Colson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: perl formats Message-ID: <51931E3F796CD41193670008C70D816EA392@BEANDFS02> Stephane, Unfortunately, I cannot help you (I never used perl formats) I do not know if you received any reactions on your request (none on this list). Also an earlier request of another person (about encryption did not receive many replies). I hope this does not disappoint you or other readers to put your questions in the list. They *are* read (at least I do), and if I have an answer, I certainly will react. And they make this list more useful... Regards, Stefaan -----Original Message----- From: Stephane Rondal [mailto:rondal@usa.net] Sent: dinsdag 9 januari 2001 22:52 To: Liege Perl Mongers Subject: perl formats Using perl formats, I'm simply trying to print: ... ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/liege-pm/attachments/20010115/2e59600d/attachment.htm From rondal at usa.net Wed Jan 17 06:03:20 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: perl formats References: <51931E3F796CD41193670008C70D816EA392@BEANDFS02> Message-ID: <018701c0807d$7d9d44e0$c726000a@gbank.be> > Unfortunately, I cannot help you (I never used perl formats) > I do not know if you received any reactions on your request (none on this > list). Also an earlier request of another person (about encryption did not > receive many replies). > Not a single reply, except yours. > I hope this does not disappoint you or other readers to put your questions > in the list. They *are* read (at least I do), and if I have an answer, I > certainly will react. > > And they make this list more useful... > Yes, this list is having a difficult start. Feel free to ask any kind of question here, or to share your thoughts on programming aspects, or about the Perl community. But I wonder, how many of us are programming daily in Perl? Though I've done so for the last 2 years, I don't anymore, but I always value Perl when working on projects of my own, currently a mod_perl web interface to a play-by-mail game: Global Diplomacy for those of you who know this game. Stephane From beatnik at linuxfreak.com Wed Jan 17 06:38:54 2001 From: beatnik at linuxfreak.com (Hendrik Van Belleghem) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: perl formats Message-ID: Hey, > Yes, this list is having a difficult start. > Feel free to ask any kind of question here, or to share your > thoughts on programming aspects, or about the Perl community. > > But I wonder, how many of us are programming daily in Perl? > Though I've done so for the last 2 years, I don't anymore, > but I always value Perl when working on projects of my own, > currently a mod_perl web interface to a play-by-mail game: Global > Diplomacy for those of you who know this game. I can honestly say I program in Perl every day :)) Ofcourse I am somewhat forced to because of the IRC thing, but I enjoy it. :)) Some URL I'd like to recommend, altho most of you probably already know it: The Perl Monks at http://www.perlmonks.com It has a great community thing going on... --- Greetz Hendrik ... Quidquid perl dictum sit, altum viditur. From rondal at usa.net Wed Jan 17 06:53:53 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: perl formats References: Message-ID: <025901c08084$8d5a07e0$c726000a@gbank.be> > I can honestly say I program in Perl every day :)) > Ofcourse I am somewhat forced to because of the IRC thing, but I enjoy > it. :)) > What do you mean? Did you write a Perl IRC client or server? Or do you write a code snippets to answer questions on the IRC? Stephane From dannyz at belgonet.com Sun Jan 21 16:30:49 2001 From: dannyz at belgonet.com (Danny Zak) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: WIN32::GUI from dada Message-ID: <1204528471.20010121233049@belgonet.com> Dear Liege, anyone actively using/hacking The Win32::GUI from dada ? I just installed it, and it looks pretty amazing... I'm gonna surely make some extra time to experiment with this module Best regards, Danny Zak mailto:dannyz@belgonet.com From rondal at usa.net Mon Jan 22 04:30:24 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: WIN32::GUI from dada References: <1204528471.20010121233049@belgonet.com> Message-ID: <03af01c08466$7114e7e0$c726000a@gbank.be> Hi Danny, > anyone actively using/hacking The Win32::GUI from dada ? > > I just installed it, and it looks pretty amazing... > > I'm gonna surely make some extra time to experiment with this > module > Never heard of Win32::GUI before this. I checked the documentation for this module, but don't understand what it does exactly. Is it, in some way, a new Perl API (based on Window's API itself) to the Windows GUI? Stephane From olivier.bouriez at quintiles.com Mon Jan 22 06:32:24 2001 From: olivier.bouriez at quintiles.com (olivier.bouriez@quintiles.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: WIN32::GUI from dada Message-ID: Hi, I had a look and found the documentation. Since I don't have the time to look at it, check it out : http://search.cpan.org/doc/ACALPINI/Win32-GUI-0.0.502/docs/win32gui.html Olivier. "Stephane Rondal" @pm.org on 22/01/2001 10:30:24 Sent by: owner-liege-pm-list@pm.org To: "Danny Zak" , "Liege Perl Mongers" cc: (bcc: Olivier Bouriez/QBAT/Quintiles) Subject: Re: WIN32::GUI from dada Hi Danny, > anyone actively using/hacking The Win32::GUI from dada ? > > I just installed it, and it looks pretty amazing... > > I'm gonna surely make some extra time to experiment with this > module > Never heard of Win32::GUI before this. I checked the documentation for this module, but don't understand what it does exactly. Is it, in some way, a new Perl API (based on Window's API itself) to the Windows GUI? Stephane From rondal at usa.net Tue Jan 23 02:32:15 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: domain hosting Message-ID: <010801c08516$ff441300$c726000a@gbank.be> I was wondering if any of you had a permanent connection to the net with a web/dns/email server already in place? If so, would you be willing to share some of your bandwith/disk space (minimal usage) and assist in the setup against some financial contribution (to be defined). My needs are very small. It's mainly an email address pointing to my own domain, so I'd need a dns entry, smtp and pop servers with a few megs of disk space. Optionnaly, I could take a few web pages as well as access to the perl (or even better, mod_perl) interpreter from my scripts. Anyone? Stephane From rondal at usa.net Tue Jan 23 05:43:27 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: UK adaptators Message-ID: <022401c08531$b7e67780$c726000a@gbank.be> Going to London in a couple of weeks (won't have time to attend the London.pm meeting unfortunately), does any of you know if I need a power adaptator and a telephone jack adaptator to connect my laptop there. My laptop is UK voltage and amperage friendly, but what worries me are the plugs. Are UK power plugs the same as in Belgium? And phone jacks. Thanks for your help. Stephane From olivier.bouriez at quintiles.com Tue Jan 23 06:11:51 2001 From: olivier.bouriez at quintiles.com (olivier.bouriez@quintiles.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: UK adaptors Message-ID: Hi Steph, Yes you do need adapters. You'll find some power supply adapters in the Eurostar station if you take the train, or on the ferry if you go there this way. You'll also need telephone adapter but I'm not sure if you'll find that so easily. Now, as far as I know we have the same voltage etc. here. :-) Cheers. Olivier. "Stephane Rondal" @pm.org on 23/01/2001 11:43:27 Sent by: owner-liege-pm-list@pm.org To: cc: Subject: UK adaptators Going to London in a couple of weeks (won't have time to attend the London.pm meeting unfortunately), does any of you know if I need a power adaptator and a telephone jack adaptator to connect my laptop there. My laptop is UK voltage and amperage friendly, but what worries me are the plugs. Are UK power plugs the same as in Belgium? And phone jacks. Thanks for your help. Stephane From rondal at usa.net Tue Jan 23 06:58:42 2001 From: rondal at usa.net (Stephane Rondal) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: UK adaptors References: Message-ID: <027c01c0853c$39248300$c726000a@gbank.be> Thanks for your help. Stephane From bart.lateur at skynet.be Tue Jan 23 10:42:56 2001 From: bart.lateur at skynet.be (Bart Lateur) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:36 2004 Subject: UK adaptators In-Reply-To: <022401c08531$b7e67780$c726000a@gbank.be> References: <022401c08531$b7e67780$c726000a@gbank.be> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:43:27 +0100, Stephane Rondal wrote: >My laptop is UK voltage and amperage friendly, but what worries >me are the plugs. Are UK power plugs the same as in Belgium? No. In the UK, the connectors are really clunky, with rectangular pins. But you can easily buy adapters here, in which you can plug a European-plug. You can buy these in airports as well, you'll easily pay twice to triple the price. >And phone jacks. ??? You mean the plugs as the headphones plugs on a walkman? AKA "mini-jack"? Yes, those are the same. About telephone plugs, I don't know. -- Bart. 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