From gcasillo at ket.org Wed Jul 17 18:01:55 2002 From: gcasillo at ket.org (Gregg Casillo) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:12 2004 Subject: LPM: Apache::ePerl? Message-ID: <3D35F763.8050509@ket.org> I recently put together an Apache/mod_perl box for a project/website we're taking up, and I'm trying to build ePerl from source with no luck. Before you ask, the original developers used ePerl, and this project has grown over the course of five plus years. My preference is Embperl with or without some smattering of Text::Template, but there are hundreds of .iphtml files in this web site's document tree that depend heavily on the Apache::ePerl module. Here's where I'm at. I have Perl 5.6.1, Apache 1.3.26, and mod_perl 1.27 built and installed from source tarballs. No problem there. However, the latest tarball for ePerl, eperl-2.2.14.tar.gz, won't compile on my Linux box. First, I had to tweak the configure file for it, because its looking for a 5.00x version of Perl, and I guess 5.6.1 gives a slightly different output from "perl -v" than does 5.003 for example. So I got past the "perl Makefile.PL" step. However, I get an ugly compiler error after typing "make". In short, ePerl appears to be quite deprecated--the latest release dates back to 1998--and is not written with current versions of Perl, mod_perl, or even gcc in mind. But I'm pretty dependent on using Apache::ePerl to get this project off and running. I'm guessing I'm going to have to build a Linux box with older releases (I'm running on Red Hat 7.3 currently). Before I do that, I wanted to know if anybody's used ePerl, built it lately with recent releases of Perl, Apache, etc., and/or could offer some suggestions on working with or around it. Happy Pungenday, Gregg From rbowen at rcbowen.com Thu Jul 18 05:56:42 2002 From: rbowen at rcbowen.com (Rich Bowen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:12 2004 Subject: LPM: Apache::ePerl? In-Reply-To: <3D35F763.8050509@ket.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Gregg Casillo wrote: > ... > > Before I do that, I wanted to know if anybody's used ePerl, built it > lately with recent releases of Perl, Apache, etc., and/or could offer > some suggestions on working with or around it. My first recommendation would be to post to the mod_perl mailing list. It is a fairly active list, and is populated by people with more mod_perl clue than you can shake a stick at. Ralf, the author of ePerl, has moved on to other things, and has not done much with mod_perl, as far as I know, for a long long time. EmbPerl was written, at least in part, to provide an alternative to ePerl. I vaguely recall attending a talk about EmbPerl in 1998 where he talked about the alternatives, and ePerl was one of the ones he mentioned then. I'll be having dinner with Ralf next Wednesday night, and I can needle him about it if you like! ;-) What is the deadline on this? I can definately ask around at the conference next week (osscon) and see if anyone has any recommendations. -- Rich Bowen Documentation Guy - Apache Software Foundation From gcasillo at ket.org Thu Jul 18 12:53:13 2002 From: gcasillo at ket.org (Gregg Casillo) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:12 2004 Subject: LPM: Apache::ePerl? References: Message-ID: <3D370089.9090904@ket.org> I will post my question to the mod_perl list and find out what I can. We'd like to get the server up and serving pages (w/ ePerl) ASAP, so we can put together some reports for the "higher-ups." We were hoping to get a web server running and those reports more or less generated by the end of this week, but it appears that early next week is more likely barring a real breakthrough today or tomorrow. The priority is definitely put together a mod_perl server running ePerl so we can work with the code and pages as is. Then, we'll worry about moving to another embedding methodology as we move toward production. We're getting in touch with the folks who created the site with ePerl to see what versions of Perl, Apache, mod_perl, etc. they were using. Hopefully we can start with that foundation and go from there. I e-mailed Ralf explaining my situation, though I expected that the basic answer was that ePerl is deprecated. No need to needle him. Thank him for his contributions. Thanks for the insight, Gregg Rich Bowen wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Gregg Casillo wrote: > > >>... >> >>Before I do that, I wanted to know if anybody's used ePerl, built it >>lately with recent releases of Perl, Apache, etc., and/or could offer >>some suggestions on working with or around it. > > > My first recommendation would be to post to the mod_perl mailing list. > It is a fairly active list, and is populated by people with more > mod_perl clue than you can shake a stick at. > > Ralf, the author of ePerl, has moved on to other things, and has not > done much with mod_perl, as far as I know, for a long long time. EmbPerl > was written, at least in part, to provide an alternative to ePerl. I > vaguely recall attending a talk about EmbPerl in 1998 where he talked > about the alternatives, and ePerl was one of the ones he mentioned then. > > I'll be having dinner with Ralf next Wednesday night, and I can needle > him about it if you like! ;-) > > What is the deadline on this? I can definately ask around at the > conference next week (osscon) and see if anyone has any recommendations. > > -- > Rich Bowen > Documentation Guy - Apache Software Foundation > > From hempy at ket.org Wed Jul 31 13:18:15 2002 From: hempy at ket.org (David Hempy) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:06:12 2004 Subject: LPM: Running a perl program as a service? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020731141639.0361c0f0@mail.ket.org> Can anybody point me to a reference regarding running a perl program as a service on an NT box? -dave -- David Hempy Internet Database Administrator Kentucky Educational Television (859)258-7164 - (800)333-9764