[LasVegas-pm] LasVegas.pm -- State of the Onion

hippsta the.hippsta at gmail.com
Fri Mar 25 20:45:31 PDT 2011


I feel like i'm pretty much in the same boat as you are.

The programming community at large may feel that perl has lost it's luster,
or hold on the internet or whatever..
But realistically on a day-to-day basis, that has no bearing on me.

I use perl daily for sysadmin tasks, and less often for larger scaled
modular worker daemon type stuff with OO.
Perl still runs X percent of the internet (like 70-80 iirc?) and until
*that* changes I won't notice.

I think what they really mean is the companies' marketing depts have moved
on to pushing for another buzz word like Ruby.
(Python can be left out as it's not a bastard child of perl per se, and has
yet to find a niche except in linux system tasks)

Haven't messed with Moose either, but I installed catalyst once and LOL'ed
at how many deps it had... the most i'd ever seen.. ever.

Anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to getting this group going again.
I haven't gotten any other responses, but i'm not discouraged.. i have 4
billion email addies that i don't check either. ;)

Gonna try the standard recruiting tactics, you know:
    1. Guilt friends into joining
    2. Post ads on social media, and craigslist
    3. Try to convert programmers of other languages @CCSN/UNLV

See how that goes;
Also.. I really think we'll be able to draw a crowd... this *is* Vegas...
Once Larry Wall has keynoted, the people will pour in... :P

C.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Steve Wells <wells at cedarnet.org> wrote:

> Cool - I'll grab it this weekend… so did you get many responses to your
> query concerning interest in Perl?
>
> I don't know how much leverage Perl has lost in the language war,
> personally I don't care either.
>
> I have CPAN and it solves my problems, so I use Perl.  I haven't been
> paying attention to Moose like I
> should and just started playing around with Catalyst this year, which has
> given me a whole new
> perspective on web development.  I know everyone has talked about the death
> of Perl6 but there seems
> be more active development starting up last year… we'll see how that goes
> but I'm not holding my breath
> (there's too much to do in the meantime :-D).
>
> How about you - what's Perl done for you lately?
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:11 PM, hippsta <the.hippsta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I also use mac, and Colloquy which is weird... i don't really like it..
>> (but it's popular)
>> and the ever popular Adium, which i also hated... :P lol
>>
>> Those are pretty much the defacto standards for IRC on mac, if you find a
>> better one lemme know.
>>
>> GVLibrary = Awesome.
>>
>> I'm glad to revive it: perl is still a major player in the language world,
>> and on the internet.. it saddened me to the point of needing to take action.
>> :)
>> I suppose that's how revolutions start?
>> :D
>>
>> C.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Steve Wells <wells at cedarnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I can use IRC again - it's been a few years…
>>> can you recommend an IRC program for my mac?
>>>
>>> I have no problem meeting at the GreenValley Library (and free is always
>>> good) :)
>>>
>>> Thanks for reviving this!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:02 PM, hippsta <the.hippsta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds great Steve! :)
>>>> ...And nice to meet you by the way.
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking the GreenValley Library as:
>>>>     1. It's relatively close to me (haha)
>>>>     2. Use of the conference rooms are free, and...
>>>>     3. they only require 24hrs notice to secure
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you still use IRC, but you can come hang out with me and
>>>> some of the locals on irc.perl.org that have already gravitated toward
>>>> our room : #lasvegas.pm; until we work out a meeting date.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to it!
>>>>
>>>> :) Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Steve Wells <wells at cedarnet.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm in - tell me a time and place :)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/3/24 hippsta <the.hippsta at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Fellow Mongers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We’ve been inactive for far too long, and as the new group leader, I
>>>>>> aim to change that.
>>>>>> The companies in this city are not hiring perl programmers, and we are
>>>>>> the only ones that can convince them, and the local computer science /
>>>>>> programming community that perl is the answer: not java, python, php
>>>>>> or ruby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Furthermore, we live in one of the most popular and visited cities in
>>>>>> the world: so we should be able to secure plenty of guest speakers for
>>>>>> keynotes and lightning talks during our meetings. (I’ve literally already
>>>>>> had offers from other group leaders, since yesterday.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mainly wanted to get an idea of who all on the list is still out
>>>>>> there, still interested in perl, and to touch base with them. Although, if I
>>>>>> have to I’ll go kidnap some university students and train them myself to
>>>>>> rebuild the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perl & Loathing in Las Vegas!
>>>>>> http://lasvegas.pm.org/
>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Hart
>>>>>> Senior Internet Engineer,
>>>>>> ZeroLag Communications, Inc.
>>>>>> http://www.zerolag.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> STEVE
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>
>>>> *hippsta*
>>>> Group Leader / List Administrator,
>>>> Las Vegas Perl Mongers
>>>> http://lasvegas.pm.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> STEVE
>>> -----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Respectfully,
>> *
>> Chris Hart* -- (a.k.a. hippsta)
>>
>> Group Leader / List Administrator,
>> Las Vegas Perl Mongers
>> http://lasvegas.pm.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> STEVE
> -----
>
>
>


-- 
Respectfully,
*
Chris Hart* -- (a.k.a. hippsta)
Group Leader / List Administrator,
Las Vegas Perl Mongers
http://lasvegas.pm.org
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