From daniel at coder.com  Wed Mar 13 08:36:03 2013
From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel Allen)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:36:03 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] March 21st: Social?
Message-ID: <CAFBAfSCiDTWvzAJphfZWAwQGFGp7zt+Q8XENoRj4=D1KKzU7Eg@mail.gmail.com>

Lacking firm (or even lacking unfirm) plans for technical talks, we are
faced with the question: do we meet up for dinner/beers next week, or not?

Thursday 21 March is looking good for me for going out. As a first draft
idea:

7pm, McCabe's pub in downtown Kitchener?
Other suggestions are welcome; I just wanted to start with something,
anything. :)

Who's in? (whatever the location choice).

-Daniel
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From amackinnon at looksmart.net  Wed Mar 13 08:54:31 2013
From: amackinnon at looksmart.net (Alex MacKinnon)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:54:31 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] March 21st: Social?
In-Reply-To: <CAFBAfSCiDTWvzAJphfZWAwQGFGp7zt+Q8XENoRj4=D1KKzU7Eg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD661977.5DC50%amackinnon@looksmart.net>

I am in.

Alex



On 13-03-13 11:36 AM, "Daniel Allen" <daniel at coder.com> wrote:

> Lacking firm (or even lacking unfirm) plans for technical talks, we are faced
> with the question: do we meet up for dinner/beers next week, or not?
> 
> Thursday 21 March is looking good for me for going out. As a first draft idea:
> 
> 7pm, McCabe's pub in downtown Kitchener?
> Other suggestions are welcome; I just wanted to start with something,
> anything. :)
> 
> Who's in? (whatever the location choice).
> 
> -Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> kw-pm mailing list
> kw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm

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From daniel at coder.com  Tue Mar 19 12:30:25 2013
From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel Allen)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:30:25 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] kw.pm social this Thursday @ Tannery Firkin,
	121 Charles St. Kitchener
Message-ID: <CAFBAfSByEAvLo=b=XSAB3DdOGdMjC_Wm7dj1zGj20QTzqEz1zw@mail.gmail.com>

As there are 4 and two-halves RSVPs from last week, I haven't made a
reservation, I figure we can just show up.

(If you're coming and you don't know what elbie, dnm, or I look like, just
drop me a note and I'll get you a photo).

Seeya there!
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From daniel at coder.com  Tue Mar 19 16:48:26 2013
From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel Allen)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:48:26 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] kw.pm social this Thursday @ Tannery Firkin,
 121 Charles St. Kitchener
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.64.1303192209590.27479@sdf.lonestar.org>
References: <CAFBAfSByEAvLo=b=XSAB3DdOGdMjC_Wm7dj1zGj20QTzqEz1zw@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.NEB.4.64.1303192209590.27479@sdf.lonestar.org>
Message-ID: <CAFBAfSB7-SFzea7O6OVSo4GLR2mFqTA8NSfpez0hGdFJgpDk2A@mail.gmail.com>

Hm, I guess that wasn't explicit, was it... 7pm is the "usual".
See you there?


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:12 PM, lloyd carr <dcarr at sdf.org> wrote:

> Any particular time on Thursday?
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Daniel Allen wrote:
>
>  Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:30:25 -0400
>>
>> From: Daniel Allen <daniel at coder.com>
>> To: kw-pm at mail.pm.org
>> Subject: [kw-pm] kw.pm social this Thursday @ Tannery Firkin,
>>     121 Charles St. Kitchener
>>
>> As there are 4 and two-halves RSVPs from last week, I haven't made a
>> reservation, I figure we can just show up.
>>
>> (If you're coming and you don't know what elbie, dnm, or I look like, just
>> drop me a note and I'll get you a photo).
>>
>> Seeya there!
>>
>>
> dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org
> SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
>
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From daniel at coder.com  Thu Mar 21 10:25:21 2013
From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel Allen)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:25:21 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] Anybody interested in moving to Amsterdam? :)
Message-ID: <CAFBAfSByAH9TFU=AMwyMEo_CNG_AS_+8_JDN7V93S4iRn-5dhg@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Valerie Westerduin <valerie.westerduin at booking.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Subject: Join Planet Earths #1 Accommodations website ? Booking.com
To: "da at coder.com" <da at coder.com>


 Dear Daniel,****

** **

You are the Group Leader of the Kitchener-Waterloo Perl Mongers group and I
would like to share some cool news with you;****

** **

You probably heard about Booking.com <http://youtu.be/LusjsQGkKWA> ? Planet
earth?s #1 Accommodation website in the world ? from sponsoring the Open
Source/Perl Community. ****

** **

Booking.com is the #1 online hotel reservations company in the world and we
are part of the Priceline
Group<http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/11/priceline-jeffery-boyd/>.
Due to the rapid growth of our online business we are now recruiting for *25
Perl Developers* to join our office in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. ** **

** **

Please spread the word among your group members and feel free to contact me
in case of any upcoming local Perl events and how we might be able to
sponsor you.****

** **

*Here is some info you can share with your network about Booking and why we
use Perl:*

** **

Perl is used for almost everything with a MySQL backend and Git for
development. We get our changes out really fast; it's rare for your code
not to be on our live systems within hours of you pushing it. As a data
driven company we have a clear goal ? helping our customers.  Everything we
do is aimed at solving problems for our customers, if it doesn't help our
customers we're not interested in doing it.  ****

** **

We offer a competitive salary, bonus and relocation package including the
opportunity to receive the 30%
ruling<http://www.iamsterdam.com/en-GB/Living/official-matters/thirty-percent-ruling>.
Amsterdam is a vibrant and thriving city offering a multi-cultural
environment. You can read a bit more how Expats rate Amsterdam in terms of
lifestyle:
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/10/amsterdams_internationl_reside.php
****

** **

For more information, check out the job description: Perl
Developer<http://www.booking.com/jobs.en-us.html?sid=32ec3df8d1972693db2168e1ba4fb7d4;dcid=1;st=details;job_id=10771>.
We also hack cool stuff. Take a look:  http://blog.booking.com****

* *

** **

We appreciate your help!****

** **

** **

*Kind regards/Met vriendelijke groet,***

* *

*Val?rie Westerduin*

*Recruitment*

* *

Herengracht 597****

Amsterdam, 1017 CE, Netherlands****

*Direct*: +31(0)20 712 56 46
[image: Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg at 01CE0840.F960C180]****

Subsidiary of the Priceline Group (NASDAQ:PCLN)
41 languages, 85+ offices worldwide, 41,000+ global destinations, 400,000+
room nights booked every day
No booking fees, best price always guaranteed.****

** **

[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:
Description: cid:image002.jpg at 01CD91B3.9A5F4200]<http://www.linkedin.com/company/booking.com>[image:
Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:
Description: cid:image003.jpg at 01CD91B3.9A5F4200]<http://www.twitter.com/Bookingcom_Jobs>[image:
Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:
Description: cid:image004.png at 01CD91B3.9A5F4200]<https://www.facebook.com/bookingcomcareers>[image:
Description: Description:
cid:image005.jpg at 01CE0840.F960C180]<http://www.booking.com/jobs.html?st=top>
****

** **
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From amackinnon at looksmart.net  Thu Mar 21 10:33:45 2013
From: amackinnon at looksmart.net (Alex MacKinnon)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:33:45 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] Anybody interested in moving to Amsterdam? :)
In-Reply-To: <CAFBAfSByAH9TFU=AMwyMEo_CNG_AS_+8_JDN7V93S4iRn-5dhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD70BCB9.5FC20%amackinnon@looksmart.net>

So, why are they always adverting in Jobs.perl.org high turn over?

Alex



On 13-03-21 1:25 PM, "Daniel Allen" <daniel at coder.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Valerie Westerduin <valerie.westerduin at booking.com>
> Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
> Subject: Join Planet Earths #1 Accommodations website ? Booking.com
> To: "da at coder.com" <da at coder.com>
> 
> 
> Dear Daniel,
> ?
> You are the Group Leader of the Kitchener-Waterloo Perl Mongers group and I
> would like to share some cool news with you;
> ?
> You probably heard about Booking.com <http://youtu.be/LusjsQGkKWA>  ? Planet
> earth?s #1 Accommodation website in the world ? from sponsoring the Open
> Source/Perl Community.
> ?
> Booking.com is the #1 online hotel reservations company in the world and we
> are part of the Priceline Group
> <http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/11/priceline-jeffery-boyd/> . Due to the
> rapid growth of our online business we are now recruiting for 25 Perl
> Developers to join our office in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
> ?
> Please spread the word among your group members and feel free to contact me in
> case of any upcoming local Perl events and how we might be able to sponsor
> you.
> ?
> Here is some info you can share with your network about Booking and why we use
> Perl:
> ?
> Perl is used for almost everything with a MySQL backend and Git for
> development. We get our changes out really fast; it's rare for your code not
> to be on our live systems within hours of you pushing it. As a data driven
> company we have a clear goal ? helping our customers. ?Everything we do is
> aimed at solving problems for our customers, if it doesn't help our customers
> we're not interested in doing it.?
> ?
> We offer a competitive salary, bonus and relocation package including the
> opportunity to receive the 30% ruling
> <http://www.iamsterdam.com/en-GB/Living/official-matters/thirty-percent-ruling
> > . Amsterdam is a vibrant and thriving city offering a multi-cultural
> environment.?You can read a bit more how Expats rate Amsterdam in terms of
> lifestyle: 
> http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/10/amsterdams_internationl_reside.p
> hp 
> <http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/10/amsterdams_internationl_reside.
> php> 
> ?
> For more information, check out the job description: Perl Developer
> <http://www.booking.com/jobs.en-us.html?sid=32ec3df8d1972693db2168e1ba4fb7d4;d
> cid=1;st=details;job_id=10771> . We also hack cool stuff. Take a look:?
> http://blog.booking.com <http://blog.booking.com>
> ?
> ?
> We appreciate your help!
> ?
> ?
> Kind regards/Met vriendelijke groet,
> ?
> Val?rie Westerduin
> Recruitment
> ?
> Herengracht 597
> Amsterdam, 1017 CE, Netherlands
> Direct: +31(0)20 712 56 46 <tel:%2B31%280%2920%20712%2056%2046>
> 
> Subsidiary of the Priceline Group (NASDAQ:PCLN)
> 41 languages, 85+ offices worldwide, 41,000+ global destinations, 400,000+
> room nights booked every day
> No booking fees, best price always guaranteed.
> ?
>  <http://www.linkedin.com/company/booking.com>
> <http://www.twitter.com/Bookingcom_Jobs>
> <https://www.facebook.com/bookingcomcareers>
> <http://www.booking.com/jobs.html?st=top>
> ?
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> kw-pm mailing list
> kw-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm

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From amackinnon at looksmart.net  Thu Mar 21 10:41:42 2013
From: amackinnon at looksmart.net (Alex MacKinnon)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:41:42 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] Anybody interested in moving to Amsterdam? :)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1303211337020.32089@newbox.vps>
Message-ID: <CD70BE96.5FC28%amackinnon@looksmart.net>

I think it would serve there purpose better, if they offered specific
numbers :employees, base salary, vacation and extras.

Also the costs for living in the city, what sort of relocation assistance
etc.  If it was as good as they say.  We would code by day and red light by
night.

Alex


On 13-03-21 1:37 PM, "Justin Wheeler" <jwheeler at datademons.com> wrote:

> I don't know, code in live a few hours after push would make me stabby.  You
> can't have good QA that way.
> 
> Justin
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013, Alex MacKinnon wrote:
> 
>> So, why are they always adverting in Jobs.perl.org high turn over?
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13-03-21 1:25 PM, "Daniel Allen" <daniel at coder.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Valerie Westerduin <valerie.westerduin at booking.com>
>>> Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
>>> Subject: Join Planet Earths #1 Accommodations website ? Booking.com
>>> To: "da at coder.com" <da at coder.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Daniel,
>>> ?
>>> You are the Group Leader of the Kitchener-Waterloo Perl Mongers group and I
>>> would like to share some cool news with you;
>>> ?
>>> You probably heard about Booking.com <http://youtu.be/LusjsQGkKWA>  ? Planet
>>> earth?s #1 Accommodation website in the world ? from sponsoring the Open
>>> Source/Perl Community.
>>> ?
>>> Booking.com is the #1 online hotel reservations company in the world and we
>>> are part of the Priceline Group
>>> <http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/09/11/priceline-jeffery-boyd/> . Due to
>>> the
>>> rapid growth of our online business we are now recruiting for 25 Perl
>>> Developers to join our office in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
>>> ?
>>> Please spread the word among your group members and feel free to contact me
>>> in
>>> case of any upcoming local Perl events and how we might be able to sponsor
>>> you.
>>> ?
>>> Here is some info you can share with your network about Booking and why we
>>> use
>>> Perl:
>>> ?
>>> Perl is used for almost everything with a MySQL backend and Git for
>>> development. We get our changes out really fast; it's rare for your code not
>>> to be on our live systems within hours of you pushing it. As a data driven
>>> company we have a clear goal ? helping our customers. ?Everything we do is
>>> aimed at solving problems for our customers, if it doesn't help our
>>> customers
>>> we're not interested in doing it.?
>>> ?
>>> We offer a competitive salary, bonus and relocation package including the
>>> opportunity to receive the 30% ruling
>>> <http://www.iamsterdam.com/en-GB/Living/official-matters/thirty-percent-ruli
>>> ng
>>>> . Amsterdam is a vibrant and thriving city offering a multi-cultural
>>> environment.?You can read a bit more how Expats rate Amsterdam in terms of
>>> lifestyle:
>>> http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/10/amsterdams_internationl_reside
>>> .p
>>> hp
>>> <http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2012/10/amsterdams_internationl_resid
>>> e.
>>> php>
>>> ?
>>> For more information, check out the job description: Perl Developer
>>> <http://www.booking.com/jobs.en-us.html?sid=32ec3df8d1972693db2168e1ba4fb7d4
>>> ;d
>>> cid=1;st=details;job_id=10771> . We also hack cool stuff. Take a look:?
>>> http://blog.booking.com <http://blog.booking.com>
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>> We appreciate your help!
>>> ?
>>> ?
>>> Kind regards/Met vriendelijke groet,
>>> ?
>>> Val?rie Westerduin
>>> Recruitment
>>> ?
>>> Herengracht 597
>>> Amsterdam, 1017 CE, Netherlands
>>> Direct: +31(0)20 712 56 46 <tel:%2B31%280%2920%20712%2056%2046>
>>> 
>>> Subsidiary of the Priceline Group (NASDAQ:PCLN)
>>> 41 languages, 85+ offices worldwide, 41,000+ global destinations, 400,000+
>>> room nights booked every day
>>> No booking fees, best price always guaranteed.
>>> ?
>>>  <http://www.linkedin.com/company/booking.com>
>>> <http://www.twitter.com/Bookingcom_Jobs>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/bookingcomcareers>
>>> <http://www.booking.com/jobs.html?st=top>
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kw-pm mailing list
>>> kw-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm
>> 
>> 


From tyler at pisolutions.ca  Thu Mar 21 12:08:05 2013
From: tyler at pisolutions.ca (Tyler Slijboom)
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:08:05 -0400
Subject: [kw-pm] kw-pm Digest, Vol 115, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1363892411.31978.kw-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.11.1363892411.31978.kw-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <20130321150805.548546ekcfc9b8ut@pisolutions.ca>


I cannot speak to the turnover, but I know that they have a lot of  
openings for programmers, more than 10.


I know they will not consider telecommuting, and I find that perl  
coders are not too motivated to relocate.  So they are probably always  
understaffed.


>>
>>> So, why are they always adverting in Jobs.perl.org high turn over?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>