From roberthpike at yahoo.com Tue May 2 13:22:07 2006 From: roberthpike at yahoo.com (Robert Pike) Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 13:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Perl Compiler Message-ID: <20060502202207.88807.qmail@web54702.mail.yahoo.com> Anyone have any information, suggestions, etc.., on using the perl compiler that normally comes with standard versions of perl? thanks. Rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From eric at uc.org Tue May 2 18:46:22 2006 From: eric at uc.org (Eric Maki) Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 21:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Perl Compiler In-Reply-To: <20060502202207.88807.qmail@web54702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060502202207.88807.qmail@web54702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: perlcc was more of a proof of concept, and I don't believe it is being actively maintained or developed. I can get it to work for trivial examples, but not much more. see: http://perlmonks.com/?node_id=465275 , for example You might be able to get a simple script with no dependencies to compile, but things quickly get gross. If you want to 'compile' Perl, take a look at PAR: http://search.cpan.org/~smueller/PAR-0.92/lib/PAR.pm It creates a Perl archive... an executable with an interpreter and all require modules bound and compressed. The executables are very large, naturally: your actual code is usually in the minority of the total byteload. Perl programs can always call back into the interpreter with evals, so you always need an interpreter. The best you can really do is 'package' Perl. Hope that is helpful, fishbot ---- original message : 2006-05-02 1:22pm : Robert Pike ---- Anyone have any information, suggestions, etc.., on using the perl compiler that normally comes with standard versions of perl? thanks. Rob __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kw-pm mailing list kw-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm From rdice at pobox.com Sun May 7 08:17:07 2006 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 11:17:07 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Details on Mark-Jason Dominus Perl talk on Sat 13 May 2006 Message-ID: <445E0F73.7060100@pobox.com> Hi everyone, As I've emailed a few times before, Mark-Jason Dominus (a.k.a. MJD), noted Perl author, speaker, technologist and community member, will be giving a public talk in Toronto on Saturday 13 May 2006. The finer-grained details are now worked out so I can share them here: Talk Times: ----------- Date: Sat 13 May 2006 Talks begin: 1pm (arrive approx. 20 minutes early to allow for time to find parking and to get seated) Talks end: 5pm Schedule of talks: ------------------ * "Perl Program Repair Shop and Red Flags", approx. 2 hours, see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ * "Perl Contains the Lambda Calculus (How to write a 163 line program to compute 1+1)", approx. 90 minutes, see http://perl.plover.com/yak/lambda/ * random grab-bag of fun stuff for 1/2 hour Location & Public Transit info: ------------------------------- Room 1208, Stephen E. Quinlan Building (Seneca at York) On the York University Keele Campus http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=York+University,+Toronto&cid=43723057,-79392486,3945108577140412544&li=lmd&ll=43.774565,-79.494152&spn=0.075734,0.128059&om=1 York University Campus Map: http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/map/KeeleMap2005.pdf The Stephen Quinlan Building is numbered "40". Note there is a parkade next door to it. Parking could be approx. C$10. Some information on public transit to the York U. Keele campus: http://www.yorku.ca/yorkweb/maps/keele_directions_transit.html Make sure you figure out which applies best to you considering where you are coming from. Also, remember that this is a Saturday, so various TTC (and other transit system) services will be running on a different (and reduced) schedule, especially to a location like a university. Toronto Transit Commission: http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/ (Links to the York Region, etc. transit systems are left as an exercise to the reader.) Donations to support the talks: ------------------------------- Once again the Toronto Perl Mongers have exhibited their great generosity by making donations to support this trip. (Thank your fellow Mongers!) A final statement on our fund-raising situation (i.e. if we're under- or over-budget for the event) will be made at the Saturday talks. By arrangements with MJD, any money we go over-budget will be made as a donation to The Perl Foundation, http://www.perlfoundation.org/ As it stands right now, I think we're looking pretty good. Post-talks socialization ------------------------ There will likely be some. Unfortunately, the York U. Keele campus area isn't the best for this. We may find something in that neighbourhood, or we might relocate back downtown and meet up at a pub / bar / restaurant / what-have-you somewhere down there afterwards. An announcement will be made regarding this during the talks on Saturday afternoon. If you are interested in post-talks socialization I would suggest keeping your evening free and your transportation arrangements flexible, or at least keep a flexible frame of mind about you. :-) There might also be other social opportunities that weekend, notably Friday evening. If anything looks likely I will make announcements closer to the time. Last Minute Updates on these plans: ----------------------------------- Should anything come up that impacts these plans I will do my best to email these lists as soon as the new information comes in. Also, I will do what I can to make sure that the Toronto Perl Mongers home page, http://to.pm.org/ , is kept up to date. I recommend reading your list email and checking this web page before making your way to the Stephen E. Quinlan building on Saturday to make sure that all things are still operating according to the details I mention here. A note to the Toronto Perl Mongers: ----------------------------------- This event takes the place of our regularly-scheduled May meeting. I.e. don't go to our regular Yonge/Bloor meeting location the last Thursday of this month, at least not for a TPM meeting. We also will not have a regular meeting in June as that time would more-or-less overlap with YAPC::NA in Chicago. Questions? ---------- Just email me. You know where to find me. Cheers, Richard From rdice at pobox.com Sun May 7 08:28:49 2006 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 11:28:49 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Addendum to MJD talks email Message-ID: <445E1231.5010509@pobox.com> The Stephen E. Quinlan building has the address: 70 The Pond Road, Toronto, Ontario, M3J 3M6 I have yet to be able to convince Mapquest or Google Maps give me a correct map location for this building, though. Cheers, Richard From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Mon May 8 16:59:33 2006 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum Mechanic) Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 19:59:33 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] [tpm] Addendum to MJD talks email In-Reply-To: <445E1231.5010509@pobox.com> References: <445E1231.5010509@pobox.com> Message-ID: <77f3972e0605081659i35db1eb1q84eb10e423b35f44@mail.gmail.com> On 5/7/06, Richard Dice wrote: > > The Stephen E. Quinlan building has the address: 70 The Pond Road, > Toronto, Ontario, M3J 3M6 > > I have yet to be able to convince Mapquest or Google Maps give me a > correct map location for this building, though. Try this: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=43.7715,+-79.4995+(Stephen+E.+Quinlan+Bldg,+70+The+Pond+Rd,+North+York,+Ontario,+M3J+3M6)&ll=43.771497,-79.499495&spn=0.009452,0.027122&om=1 At least, that's in the middle of the map. Google's maps aren't that accurate. -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kw-pm/attachments/20060508/bb06e7db/attachment.html From rdice at pobox.com Mon May 8 15:34:04 2006 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 18:34:04 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] [tpm] Addendum to MJD talks email In-Reply-To: <77f3972e0605081659i35db1eb1q84eb10e423b35f44@mail.gmail.com> References: <445E1231.5010509@pobox.com> <77f3972e0605081659i35db1eb1q84eb10e423b35f44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <445FC75C.9050001@pobox.com> > Try this: > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=43.7715,+-79.4995+(Stephen+E.+Quinlan+Bldg,+70+The+Pond+Rd,+North+York,+Ontario,+M3J+3M6)&ll=43.771497,-79.499495&spn=0.009452,0.027122&om=1 > > > At least, that's in the middle of the map. Google's maps aren't that > accurate. > I played around with that general approach for a bit, but I finally figured that between the Google Map for the York U. campus and the PDF of the campus itself it should be easy enough to find the building. Cheers, Richard From kw-pm at datademons.com Tue May 9 11:35:41 2006 From: kw-pm at datademons.com (Justin Wheeler) Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 14:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Drive to Toronto Message-ID: This Saturday I will be driving to Toronto for the MJD talk. I can sit 4 (moderately comfortably) in my car including myself, and as of now, there is only 1 coming with me. So if anyone needs a ride to the event, let me know, your only cost will be a share in the gas -- and any parking downtown should we decide to go downtown to socialise, although there's a good chance I'd just park at the Metropass parking lot (I believe it's free on weekends) at Downsview and take the subway from there anyway.. The last two seats available in my car will be on a first-come first-serve basis. So if anyone wants a ride, throw me an e-mail. Justin From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Wed May 10 11:00:00 2006 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 18:00:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kw-pm] Drive to Toronto In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Justin, Any seats left on the bus? - Lloyd On Tue, 9 May 2006, Justin Wheeler wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 14:35:41 -0400 (EDT) > From: Justin Wheeler > To: kw-pm at mail.pm.org > Subject: [kw-pm] Drive to Toronto > > This Saturday I will be driving to Toronto for the MJD talk. I can sit 4 > (moderately comfortably) in my car including myself, and as of now, there is > only 1 coming with me. So if anyone needs a ride to the event, let me know, > your only cost will be a share in the gas -- and any parking downtown should > we decide to go downtown to socialise, although there's a good chance I'd > just park at the Metropass parking lot (I believe it's free on weekends) at > Downsview and take the subway from there anyway.. > > The last two seats available in my car will be on a first-come first-serve > basis. > > So if anyone wants a ride, throw me an e-mail. > > Justin > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com Fri May 12 10:29:24 2006 From: quantum.mechanic.1964 at gmail.com (Quantum Mechanic) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:29:24 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] [tpm] Addendum to MJD talks email In-Reply-To: <445E1231.5010509@pobox.com> References: <445E1231.5010509@pobox.com> Message-ID: <77f3972e0605121029i19fa11b5r2afb09b297f03400@mail.gmail.com> I just passed along the webpage to a cow-worker, who then pointed out that there's no time posted on the web page (http://to.pm.org/#061305). [I have since forwarded him the email...] -QM On 5/7/06, Richard Dice wrote: > > The Stephen E. Quinlan building has the address: 70 The Pond Road, > Toronto, Ontario, M3J 3M6 > > I have yet to be able to convince Mapquest or Google Maps give me a > correct map location for this building, though. > > Cheers, > Richard > > > ================================================= > This email appears to originate from the Toronto Perl Mongers Listserver. > > Listserv : tpm at to.pm.org > Administrative queries: owner-tpm at to.pm.org > > -- -QM Quantum Mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kw-pm/attachments/20060512/ca622ff6/attachment.html From rdice at pobox.com Fri May 12 09:42:30 2006 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 12:42:30 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Final reminder -- MJD speaking for Toronto Perl Mongers (and friends) tomorow (Saturday 13 May) 1-5pm Message-ID: <4464BAF6.8030909@pobox.com> Hello... Here is a last reminder of the details for the Mark-Jason Dominus talk. I picked him up at the airport earlier today and he's looking forward to seeing everyone. Cheers, Richard ======================================== As I've emailed a few times before, Mark-Jason Dominus (a.k.a. MJD), noted Perl author, speaker, technologist and community member, will be giving a public talk in Toronto on Saturday 13 May 2006. Here are the fine-grained details: Talk Times: ----------- Date: Sat 13 May 2006 Talks begin: 1pm (arrive approx. 20 minutes early to allow for time to find parking and to get seated) Talks end: 5pm Schedule of talks: ------------------ * "Perl Program Repair Shop and Red Flags", approx. 2 hours, see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ * "Perl Contains the Lambda Calculus (How to write a 163 line program to compute 1+1)", approx. 90 minutes, see http://perl.plover.com/yak/lambda/ * random grab-bag of fun stuff for 1/2 hour Location & Public Transit info: ------------------------------- Room 1208, Stephen E. Quinlan Building (Seneca at York) On the York University Keele Campus http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=York+University,+Toronto&cid=43723057,-79392486,3945108577140412544&li=lmd&ll=43.774565,-79.494152&spn=0.075734,0.128059&om=1 York University Campus Map: http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/map/KeeleMap2005.pdf The Stephen Quinlan Building is numbered "40". Note there is a parkade next door to it. Parking could be approx. C$10. Some information on public transit to the York U. Keele campus: http://www.yorku.ca/yorkweb/maps/keele_directions_transit.html Make sure you figure out which applies best to you considering where you are coming from. Also, remember that this is a Saturday, so various TTC (and other transit system) services will be running on a different (and reduced) schedule, especially to a location like a university. Toronto Transit Commission: http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/ (Links to the York Region, etc. transit systems are left as an exercise to the reader.) Donations to support the talks: ------------------------------- Once again the Toronto Perl Mongers have exhibited their great generosity by making donations to support this trip. (Thank your fellow Mongers!) A final statement on our fund-raising situation (i.e. if we're under- or over-budget for the event) will be made at the Saturday talks. By arrangements with MJD, any money we go over-budget will be made as a donation to The Perl Foundation, http://www.perlfoundation.org/ As it stands right now, I think we're looking pretty good. Post-talks socialization ------------------------ There will likely be some. Unfortunately, the York U. Keele campus area isn't the best for this. We may find something in that neighbourhood, or we might relocate back downtown and meet up at a pub / bar / restaurant / what-have-you somewhere down there afterwards. An announcement will be made regarding this during the talks on Saturday afternoon. If you are interested in post-talks socialization I would suggest keeping your evening free and your transportation arrangements flexible, or at least keep a flexible frame of mind about you. :-) Last Minute Updates on these plans: ----------------------------------- Should anything come up that impacts these plans I will do my best to email these lists as soon as the new information comes in. Also, I will do what I can to make sure that the Toronto Perl Mongers home page, http://to.pm.org/ , is kept up to date. I recommend reading your list email and checking this web page before making your way to the Stephen E. Quinlan building on Saturday to make sure that all things are still operating according to the details I mention here. A note to the Toronto Perl Mongers: ----------------------------------- This event takes the place of our regularly-scheduled May meeting. I.e. don't go to our regular Yonge/Bloor meeting location the last Thursday of this month, at least not for a TPM meeting. We also will not have a regular meeting in June as that time would more-or-less overlap with YAPC::NA in Chicago. Questions? ---------- Just email me. You know where to find me. Cheers, Richard From daniel at coder.com Fri May 12 14:18:21 2006 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Final reminder -- MJD speaking for Toronto Perl Mongers (and friends) tomorow (Saturday 13 May) 1-5pm In-Reply-To: <4464BAF6.8030909@pobox.com> Message-ID: For the sake of other folks on the kwpm list who aren't in our IRC channel: Justin's car is full. :) We'll expect a short talkback session at our next meeting; which is in a week, next Thursday. (As a second talk, I'll be talking on Flickr::API; or how to snarf lots of interesting pictures with little effort). So, hope to see folks on Thursday too. -Daniel On Fri, 12 May 2006, Richard Dice wrote: > Hello... > > Here is a last reminder of the details for the Mark-Jason Dominus talk. I picked him up at the airport earlier today and he's looking forward to seeing everyone. > > Cheers, > Richard > > ======================================== > > As I've emailed a few times before, Mark-Jason Dominus (a.k.a. MJD), > noted Perl author, speaker, technologist and community member, will be > giving a public talk in Toronto on Saturday 13 May 2006. Here are the fine-grained details: > > Talk Times: > ----------- > Date: Sat 13 May 2006 > Talks begin: 1pm (arrive approx. 20 minutes early to allow for time to > find parking and to get seated) > Talks end: 5pm > > > Schedule of talks: > ------------------ > * "Perl Program Repair Shop and Red Flags", approx. 2 hours, see > http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ > * "Perl Contains the Lambda Calculus (How to write a 163 line program > to compute 1+1)", approx. 90 minutes, see http://perl.plover.com/yak/lambda/ > * random grab-bag of fun stuff for 1/2 hour > > > Location & Public Transit info: > ------------------------------- > Room 1208, Stephen E. Quinlan Building (Seneca at York) > On the York University Keele Campus > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=York+University,+Toronto&cid=43723057,-79392486,3945108577140412544&li=lmd&ll=43.774565,-79.494152&spn=0.075734,0.128059&om=1 > > York University Campus Map: > http://www.yorku.ca/web/futurestudents/map/KeeleMap2005.pdf > The Stephen Quinlan Building is numbered "40". Note there is a parkade > next door to it. Parking could be approx. C$10. > > Some information on public transit to the York U. Keele campus: > http://www.yorku.ca/yorkweb/maps/keele_directions_transit.html > Make sure you figure out which applies best to you considering where you > are coming from. Also, remember that this is a Saturday, so various TTC > (and other transit system) services will be running on a different (and > reduced) schedule, especially to a location like a university. > Toronto Transit Commission: http://www.toronto.ca/ttc/ > (Links to the York Region, etc. transit systems are left as an exercise > to the reader.) > > > Donations to support the talks: > ------------------------------- > Once again the Toronto Perl Mongers have exhibited their great > generosity by making donations to support this trip. (Thank your fellow > Mongers!) > > A final statement on our fund-raising situation (i.e. if we're under- or > over-budget for the event) will be made at the Saturday talks. By > arrangements with MJD, any money we go over-budget will be made as a > donation to The Perl Foundation, http://www.perlfoundation.org/ As it > stands right now, I think we're looking pretty good. > > > Post-talks socialization > ------------------------ > There will likely be some. Unfortunately, the York U. Keele campus area > isn't the best for this. We may find something in that neighbourhood, > or we might relocate back downtown and meet up at a pub / bar / > restaurant / what-have-you somewhere down there afterwards. An > announcement will be made regarding this during the talks on Saturday > afternoon. > > If you are interested in post-talks socialization I would suggest > keeping your evening free and your transportation arrangements flexible, > or at least keep a flexible frame of mind about you. :-) > > > Last Minute Updates on these plans: > ----------------------------------- > Should anything come up that impacts these plans I will do my best to > email these lists as soon as the new information comes in. Also, I will > do what I can to make sure that the Toronto Perl Mongers home page, > http://to.pm.org/ , is kept up to date. I recommend reading your list > email and checking this web page before making your way to the Stephen > E. Quinlan building on Saturday to make sure that all things are still > operating according to the details I mention here. > > > A note to the Toronto Perl Mongers: > ----------------------------------- > This event takes the place of our regularly-scheduled May meeting. I.e. > don't go to our regular Yonge/Bloor meeting location the last Thursday > of this month, at least not for a TPM meeting. We also will not have a > regular meeting in June as that time would more-or-less overlap with > YAPC::NA in Chicago. > > > Questions? > ---------- > Just email me. You know where to find me. > > > Cheers, > Richard > > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From rdice at pobox.com Sun May 14 02:28:31 2006 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 05:28:31 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Thank you for the MJD event! Message-ID: <4466F83F.2090501@pobox.com> Hi everyone, I just wanted to say thank to everyone for the support we received for the MJD talks yesterday. We covered all our costs (about $780) and raised an additional $285 beyond that, both from donations and proceeds from the book auction. I made the US$260 donation via credit card to The Perl Foundation last night in the name of "Toronto Perl Mongers" (though it could take a few days before the guy on the back-end to write in that name in place of mine on the web site... he can be slow responding to emails). MJD had a really good time here, as did his wife and daughter as they touristed around downtown. As he mentioned in his talk yesterday we were a bumper crop group in terms of providing him with code examples for his "Perl Program Repair Shop and Red Flags" book, and he appreciated how engaged the audience was during the talk. He was impressed and surprised at how well his "Perl contains the Lambda Calculus" talk was received, as he considers it to be one of his more esoteric, less practical and more high-end talks. Most groups don't want to venture that far into the realm of compsci strangeness. As I warned him beforehand though, we're not most groups. :-) Thanks again, and looking forward to seeing many of you out at YAPC::NA in Chicago in about 6 weeks. Cheers, Richard From jessh at htwc.biz Sun May 14 07:22:56 2006 From: jessh at htwc.biz (Jess & Donna Harmon) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:22:56 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Help!! Message-ID: <001301c67761$e55788d0$537b68d8@unattended> I have written some very basic Perl programs using GTEdit. I recently had problems with my hard drive, so I had a new one installed. This was a disaster. I lost approximately have of my programs and he certainly did not re-install it correctly. I live in Durham Ontario and would appreciate someone, in the area if possible, to give me some hands on help in getting it to run again. My computer knowledge is limited. Thanking you in advance I remain Jess Harmon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/kw-pm/attachments/20060514/5a12ca9f/attachment.html From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Sun May 14 19:41:02 2006 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 02:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kw-pm] wheels Message-ID: Special thanks to Justin for providing transport to the MJD talk. - Lloyd P.S. What make of car was it that we rode in? Anyone who was on the ride will understand why not knowing this bothers me ;) From daniel at coder.com Wed May 17 06:26:25 2006 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Meeting Thursday (tomorrow) Message-ID: kw.pm is meeting tomorrow, with two topics: a short talk back from the folks who went to the perl talk by Mark Jason-Dominus last Saturday; and I will present on using Flickr::API, a flexible SOAP tool for image-collection from Flickr. (What is "interestingness?" Come and find out.) There will be pizza and pop, anonymously donated. That's Thursday, May 17, at the usual place and time: 7:30, U of W, Davis Centre Room 3323. (See kw.pm.org for directions). See you there! -Daniel From daniel at coder.com Wed May 17 18:10:37 2006 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Meeting Thursday (tomorrow) Message-ID: Thanks for reminding me. I've added you, plus the people who are speaking or bringing stuff. :) If you'd like pizza, please put your name herelike: http://kw.pm.org/wiki/index.cgi?PizzaList On Wed, 17 May 2006, Dave Carr wrote: > >There will be pizza and pop, anonymously donated. > > I assume that there will be the usual pizza sign-up list on the kw.pm > WIKI? > > -Lloyd > From daniel at coder.com Sat May 20 18:46:49 2006 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 21:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] 'Monger in the NY Times Message-ID: Pretty good article in the NYT about MessageLabs and Matt Sergeant, a local 'monger: --- The Fight Against V1 at gra (and Other Spam) http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/21/business/yourmoney/21spam.html ...But spammers have hardly given up, and as they improve and adapt their techniques, network managers must still face down the pill-pushers, get-rich-quick artists and others who use billions of unwanted e-mail messages to troll for income. "For the end user, spam isn't that much of a problem anymore," said Matt Sergeant, MessageLabs' senior antispam technologist. "But for the network, and for people like us, it definitely is." --- Nice one Matt! -Daniel kw.pm From abez at abez.ca Mon May 22 08:14:55 2006 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] SVG Message-ID: http://supernaut.abez.ca:8080/~abez/part2 3 years ago I made some SVGs for a class, they are simple enough and they are animated. They work with Bon Echo (Firefox 2 alpha) without plugins, I doubt they work for FF1.5, and some work in Safari. Being 3 years old, many didn't work so I just updated the 2 the head elements in the SVG. I don't know if these are good examples but they are a good example of javascript and svg. Unfortunately the interactivity of this doesn't work in Bon Echo: http://supernaut.abez.ca:8080/~abez/part1/part3.svg In browser SVG still has a way to go. abram -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez at abez.ca) ------------------------------------------ abez From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Mon May 22 18:14:06 2006 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kw-pm] SVG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > http://supernaut.abez.ca:8080/~abez/part2.svg http://dcarr.freeshell.org/guinea.svg FC4 and FF1.5 seem to like it abez :) > Unfortunately the interactivity of this doesn't work in Bon Echo: > http://supernaut.abez.ca:8080/~abez/part1/part3.svg Can't get interactivity, but random falling and counting work :( Have you tried http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/svgtetris/svgtetris.svg - Lloyd From rdice at pobox.com Mon May 22 14:55:20 2006 From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:55:20 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Perl e-book deal from Apress Message-ID: <44723348.5010700@pobox.com> Hi everyone, In case people haven't noticed this on use.perl recently, there's an interesting Perl e-book offer from Apress, 5 titles for $50. http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/18/0557242 The marketing person responsible for this was a supporter of the YAPC::NA that TPM hosted last summer and she asked me to pass along the message. And they're good e-books at a good price, so it sounded okay to me. :-) Cheers, Richard From da at coder.com Mon May 22 19:11:53 2006 From: da at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] SVG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 May 2006, lloyd carr wrote: > Have you tried > http://www.croczilla.com/svg/samples/svgtetris/svgtetris.svg Dang, that croczilla's got some great svg. The tetris is a highlight, and also there's one with movable/resizable spline curves. Cool stuff. Dang, I can't believe I just spent that long playing tetris... -Daniel > - Lloyd > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Tue May 23 01:53:30 2006 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kw-pm] SVG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > http://supernaut.abez.ca:8080/~abez/part2 This is better ;) http://supernaut.abez.ca:8080/~abez/part1/part2.svg - Lloyd P.S. quirksmode has some good stuff on interoperable mouse events. http://www.quirksmode.org/js/events_mouse.html From abez at abez.ca Tue May 23 20:05:54 2006 From: abez at abez.ca (abez) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [kw-pm] Recording HTTP Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Check out this module: http://search.cpan.org/~leira/HTTP-Recorder-0.05/lib/HTTP/Recorder.pm Unfortunately it craps out on some websites. It is supposed to write a WWW::Mechanize script for you :) It sorta works. Here's a quick script where you can monitor all your browser traffic, I want to figure out what requests you are making: #!/usr/bin/perl use HTTP::Proxy; use Data::Dumper; my $proxy = HTTP::Proxy->new(port=>3128); my $agent = SpecialAgent->new(); $proxy->agent( $agent ); $proxy->start(); package SpecialAgent; use base qw(LWP::UserAgent); sub new { my$ self = shift()->SUPER::new(@_); return $self } sub prepare_request { my $self = shift; my $request = shift; #put a dumper here for more fun warn "PREP_REQUEST ".$request->as_string; return $self->SUPER::prepare_request($request); } 1; - -- abez ------------------------------------------ http://www.abez.ca/ Abram Hindle (abez at abez.ca) - ------------------------------------------ abez -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEc82enOrfa1yW8IURAp+3AKCNreR39OP3t9FW5QsfunOhs4xn7gCffs/E ctyVRBNF708dc9BOGGHp4kg= =huvq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From matt at sergeant.org Wed May 24 10:09:39 2006 From: matt at sergeant.org (Matt Sergeant) Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:09:39 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Recording HTTP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F1902AE-7A56-4387-8FB2-A747D7E392B4@sergeant.org> On 23-May-06, at 11:05 PM, abez wrote: > Here's a quick script where you can monitor all your browser traffic, > I want to figure out what requests you are making: Here's what I use: sudo tcpdump -i en1 -A -s0 dst port 80 | perl -ne '$|++; next unless / Referer/; print, $LAST = $_ if $_ ne $LAST' :-) Also sniffs what URLs other people on your network are looking at. Matt. From matt at sergeant.org Wed May 24 10:27:19 2006 From: matt at sergeant.org (Matt Sergeant) Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:27:19 -0400 Subject: [kw-pm] Recording HTTP In-Reply-To: <9F1902AE-7A56-4387-8FB2-A747D7E392B4@sergeant.org> References: <9F1902AE-7A56-4387-8FB2-A747D7E392B4@sergeant.org> Message-ID: <71FFA8ED-BCD7-45F1-8BBE-0E95B49A68FD@sergeant.org> On 24-May-06, at 1:09 PM, Matt Sergeant wrote: > On 23-May-06, at 11:05 PM, abez wrote: > >> Here's a quick script where you can monitor all your browser traffic, >> I want to figure out what requests you are making: > > Here's what I use: > > sudo tcpdump -i en1 -A -s0 dst port 80 | perl -ne '$|++; next unless / > Referer/; print, $LAST = $_ if $_ ne $LAST' I should note - this doesn't do the same thing as abez's script, and it only really works if there are images on the page. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed May 31 21:11:05 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:11:05 -0500 Subject: [kw-pm] YAPC::NA Message-ID: <49d805d70605312111r364c211cg60d5aabd0e050efb@mail.gmail.com> Hi there fellow Perl Mongers. I'm writing to remind you all that YAPC::NA is only a few weeks away. The conference will be held in Chicago June 26th through 28th and will feature four simultaneous sessions of Perl talks for three days in addition to a job fair, banquet, and auction. After the conference Damian Conway, Randal Schwartz, and brian d foy will be sticking around and conducting professional training classes and extremely reduced prices. This email is a little spammy (sorry about that), but I just wanted to remind you all about the conference and also ask for your help in promoting it so that we can fill up the few spots that are remaining. For more information check out http://www.yapcchicago.org. We invite you to put up posters: http://yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster.pdf http://yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster_white.pdf Or maybe a web banner: http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_banner_wide.jpg http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_banner_narrow.jpg Thank you for your help in making YAPC a success once again, Josh McAdams