From daniel at coder.com Sun Jan 9 07:19:21 2005 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Sun Jan 9 09:45:08 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] happy new year Message-ID: I hope the holidays treated you all well. I've been a bit busy this last week, starting a new job, but I'm looking forward to our 'mongers meeting next Thursday. If you've sent me email in the last two weeks and I haven't replied, I apologize, I will try to do so soon. News I know about: * Matt Seargent has landed! http://use.perl.org/~Matts/journal/22602 He and his spouse are in KW for the next month or two while they look for a house in the (broader) area. I've extended an invitation to him to join us next week. If you don't know who Matt is: he is the brain behind Axkit, and had a principal role in creating SpamAssassin. * The location of our next meeting is up in the air. I can't book the Bioinformatics Lab space because they're moving down the hall within roughly that time-frame, and their stuff will all be in boxes. However, I will be able to book some space with a projector at the University, hopefully on Monday. I'll post back here when I know where, again, hopefully tomorrow. -- So- what other news is there, since the last posts here? Fishbot- have you received copies of the latest Perl Review? -Daniel From eric at uc.org Sun Jan 9 18:50:05 2005 From: eric at uc.org (Eric - fishbot) Date: Sun Jan 9 18:50:31 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] happy new year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I received -a- copy of the new Perl Review, and then an email from brian a few days later saying that he is sending more, and that he simply forgot. I will bring whatever copies (possibly singular) I have to the upcoming meeting. I am going to do my best to bring in code for a code critique again. I think that I have something in mind. It might be cool (speaking geek-loosely) to talk about different ideas for creating random colours, as discussed re: the quilt software. At some point in the next few months, I would like to do a mini-talk on DateTime, which I used recently. Also, APress has a book out with Perl 6 concepts illustrated using Perl 5. If I can get a copy or a review copy, I will maybe share some of the highlights. Happy New Year, Eric ---- original message : 2005-01-09 10:19am : Daniel R. Allen ---- I hope the holidays treated you all well. I've been a bit busy this last week, starting a new job, but I'm looking forward to our 'mongers meeting next Thursday. If you've sent me email in the last two weeks and I haven't replied, I apologize, I will try to do so soon. News I know about: * Matt Seargent has landed! http://use.perl.org/~Matts/journal/22602 He and his spouse are in KW for the next month or two while they look for a house in the (broader) area. I've extended an invitation to him to join us next week. If you don't know who Matt is: he is the brain behind Axkit, and had a principal role in creating SpamAssassin. * The location of our next meeting is up in the air. I can't book the Bioinformatics Lab space because they're moving down the hall within roughly that time-frame, and their stuff will all be in boxes. However, I will be able to book some space with a projector at the University, hopefully on Monday. I'll post back here when I know where, again, hopefully tomorrow. -- So- what other news is there, since the last posts here? Fishbot- have you received copies of the latest Perl Review? -Daniel From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Sun Jan 9 19:43:17 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Sun Jan 9 19:43:45 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] happy new year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > So- what other news is there, since the last posts here? Fishbot- have > you received copies of the latest Perl Review? Happy New Year to you too Daniel! How did we get on the topic of poetry and Perl at the last regular meeting? I would quite enjoy a proper talk on it sometime :-) - Lloyd From rprice at freeshell.org Mon Jan 10 07:29:13 2005 From: rprice at freeshell.org (Rick Price) Date: Mon Jan 10 07:29:25 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] happy new year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Eric - fishbot wrote: > I am going to do my best to bring in code for a code critique > again. I think that I have something in mind. It might be cool > (speaking geek-loosely) to talk about different ideas for > creating random colours, as discussed re: the quilt software. I wonder if purely random colours might not look as nice as complementary colours chosen randomly. I'm not really up on art theory, but I remember that colours opposite on the colour wheel are supposed to go together. Perhaps the initial colour scheme could be chosen randomly, and then complementary colours could be chosen to match (randomly). Kind of like the musical 'theme and variations' thing. Rick [=============================] Big whorls have little whorls, Which feed on their velocity; And little whorls have lesser whorls, And so on to viscosity. Lewis Richardson From eric at uc.org Mon Jan 10 07:40:18 2005 From: eric at uc.org (Eric - fishbot) Date: Mon Jan 10 07:40:29 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Colo(?:u)?rs (was: happy new year) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> I am going to do my best to bring in code for a code >> critique again. I think that I have something in mind. >> It might be cool (speaking geek-loosely) to talk about >> different ideas for creating random colours, as discussed >> re: the quilt software. > I wonder if purely random colours might not look as nice > as complementary colours chosen randomly. I'm not really > up on art theory, but I remember that colours opposite on > the colour wheel are supposed to go together. > > Perhaps the initial colour scheme could be chosen > randomly, and then complementary colours could be chosen > to match (randomly). > > Kind of like the musical 'theme and variations' thing. Yes, this is precisely the challenge. I can't remember if we were discussing this here, or if I was chatting directly with Daniel, but even selecting four or five colours such that they will look good together is a tremendous challenge. I have some ideas for an algorithm, but little in the way of implementation. I thought that I would explain what I have so far, and that might create interesting discussion. Plus, it gives LLoyd a chance to ask what "matching colours" really means as a concept, and for me to argue that perhaps -nothing- looks good with chartreuse. ;) Eric From elbie at trig.net Mon Jan 10 07:40:25 2005 From: elbie at trig.net (Christopher Calzonetti) Date: Mon Jan 10 07:40:38 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] happy new year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050110154025.GA14219@trig.net> On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:29:13AM -0500, Rick Price wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2005, Eric - fishbot wrote: > > > I am going to do my best to bring in code for a code critique > > again. I think that I have something in mind. It might be cool > > (speaking geek-loosely) to talk about different ideas for > > creating random colours, as discussed re: the quilt software. > > I wonder if purely random colours might not look as nice as complementary > colours chosen randomly. I'm not really up on art theory, but I remember > that colours opposite on the colour wheel are supposed to go together. It seems that indeed discussion on this would be useful, as there are a few of us who have something to say. I'd really have to say that while you can indeed get some good colour matches using strictly complementary colours, you're going to miss out on a whole lot of nice combinations if you restrict yourself just to those. Consider a selection of warm, cool or earthy tones. These are common colour schemes, especially for quilts. ie. faded blues and greens. Dark reds, browns and greens. Plus, complementary colour schemes only works if you've only got two colours (and differing shades of such). If you wanted to add more colours, they don't really remain complimentary to the whole. -- Christopher Calzonetti, Technical Lead, Trig.Net Web: http://www.trig.net/ Mail: mailto:chris@trig.net From dada.da at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 08:42:05 2005 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Mon Jan 10 08:42:25 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Colo(?:u)?rs (was: happy new year) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:40:18 -0500 (EST), Eric - fishbot wrote: > > Yes, this is precisely the challenge. I can't remember if > we were discussing this here, or if I was chatting directly > with Daniel, but even selecting four or five colours such I believe we were talking about it at or just after the social in December. I was advocating random color choices, and you were suggesting using a color wheel (or the mathematical representation thereof). I think afterward, I found a perl module that will translate HSV to RGB, to make that easier, but I forget which module. :) > and for me to argue that perhaps -nothing- looks > good with chartreuse. ;) I have it on good authority that chartreuse is the new black. In 2005, expect to see puffy chartreuse wintercoats, SUVs, and ipods. Er. -Daniel > Eric From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Mon Jan 10 15:09:29 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Mon Jan 10 15:10:03 2005 Subject: Fwd: Re: [kw-pm] happy new year In-Reply-To: <20050110215141.66232.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050110215141.66232.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > Consider a selection of warm, cool or earthy tones. These are common colour > > schemes, especially for quilts. ie. faded blues and greens. Dark reds, > > browns and greens. Daniel imagine Zookrick the interior design gnome LOL - Lloyd From dada.da at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 16:33:04 2005 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Mon Jan 10 16:33:18 2005 Subject: Fwd: Re: [kw-pm] happy new year In-Reply-To: References: <20050110215141.66232.qmail@web52908.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think Zookrick's union doesn't let him freelance as an interior design gnome. (Which union? Clockwork Tinkerers Union of course, http://ctu.gnomish.net/) How did we get on this topic anyway? Isn't anybody doing anything serious with perl? ..Oh, wait, I am, but it's boring. Not the talk for Thursday, though, that won't be boring. -D On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:09:29 +0000 (UTC), lloyd carr wrote: > > > Consider a selection of warm, cool or earthy tones. These are common colour > > > schemes, especially for quilts. ie. faded blues and greens. Dark reds, > > > browns and greens. > > Daniel imagine Zookrick the interior design gnome LOL > > - Lloyd > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From dada.da at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 16:48:48 2005 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Mon Jan 10 16:49:02 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Meeting next Thursday, 7pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The location's set; the Bioinformatics Lab (DC 2305). Thursday the 20th, 7pm. Since we did well last time getting pizza, I'd like to try that again. If you're in for pizza, drop me an email (da at coder.com)- and let me know if you have pizza or pop preferences. $5 per person. Next Thursday noon cutoff. I'll send a reminder early next week. Agenda for the meeting: - I'll be talking about (and demoing) the activestate IDE, Komodo - Eric will hopefully have some more code to review, since that was fun - Maybe a tretise on the theory of colour, or possibly one (overdue) on the theory of rhyming... and, of course, their relation to Perl. - Discussion: what's upcoming- next month? The following two months? -Daniel On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:19:21 -0500 (EST), Daniel R. Allen wrote: > I hope the holidays treated you all well. I've been a bit busy this last > week, starting a new job, but I'm looking forward to our 'mongers meeting > next Thursday. > > If you've sent me email in the last two weeks and I haven't replied, I > apologize, I will try to do so soon. > > News I know about: > > * Matt Seargent has landed! http://use.perl.org/~Matts/journal/22602 > > He and his spouse are in KW for the next month or two while they look for > a house in the (broader) area. I've extended an invitation to him to join > us next week. > > If you don't know who Matt is: he is the brain behind Axkit, and had a > principal role in creating SpamAssassin. > > * The location of our next meeting is up in the air. I can't book the > Bioinformatics Lab space because they're moving down the hall within > roughly that time-frame, and their stuff will all be in boxes. However, I > will be able to book some space with a projector at the University, > hopefully on Monday. I'll post back here when I know where, again, > hopefully tomorrow. > > -- > > So- what other news is there, since the last posts here? Fishbot- have > you received copies of the latest Perl Review? > > -Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From eric at uc.org Tue Jan 18 11:32:49 2005 From: eric at uc.org (Eric - fishbot) Date: Tue Jan 18 11:33:13 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting Message-ID: Looking forward to seeing everyone this Thursday. Just a couple of notes and questions: - Yesterday I received a number (6) of copies of The Perl Review in the mail. So, I have my copy, and I will place one in the kwpm library (which is roughly equivalent to Daniel). That leaves several to distribute. I am tempted to ask for something like your favourite commandline switch, or a cool use for statement modifiers, but history tells me that I would end up carrying most copies back home :( So, free copy to the first 4 people who arrive. - I am thinking that in March or April I would try to give a talk about Perl 6 Rules and Grammars. They are tremendously powerful, and it is possible that we might actually be able to use them in place of tools like Parse::RecDescent and lex/yacc well before Perl 6 sees a production environment. Please let me know if there is interest in this topic. Notes for Daniel: - Pizza for me, please. I linked the PizzaList wikipage to the meeting, hope that doesn't make your life harder. - I'm returning Perl & XML to the lending library. Can I borrow the Alpaca book? See everyone in a couple days, Eric From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Tue Jan 18 13:32:52 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Tue Jan 18 13:33:29 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What about colour? So what values would you use to create a RGB colour wheel? Also how do you make a RGB colour on the wheel darker, is it some proportitional lowering of the values? I'm not looking for code, just numbers and arithmetic. - Lloyd On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Eric - fishbot wrote: > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:32:49 -0500 (EST) > From: Eric - fishbot > To: K/W Perl Mongers > Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting > > > Looking forward to seeing everyone this Thursday. Just a couple > of notes and questions: > > - Yesterday I received a number (6) of copies of The Perl > Review in the mail. So, I have my copy, and I will place > one in the kwpm library (which is roughly equivalent to > Daniel). That leaves several to distribute. I am > tempted to ask for something like your favourite > commandline switch, or a cool use for statement > modifiers, but history tells me that I would end up > carrying most copies back home :( So, free copy to the > first 4 people who arrive. > > - I am thinking that in March or April I would try to give > a talk about Perl 6 Rules and Grammars. They are > tremendously powerful, and it is possible that we might > actually be able to use them in place of tools like > Parse::RecDescent and lex/yacc well before Perl 6 sees a > production environment. Please let me know if there is > interest in this topic. > > Notes for Daniel: > > - Pizza for me, please. I linked the PizzaList wikipage to > the meeting, hope that doesn't make your life harder. > > - I'm returning Perl & XML to the lending library. Can I > borrow the Alpaca book? > > See everyone in a couple days, > Eric > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From daniel at coder.com Tue Jan 18 16:27:09 2005 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Tue Jan 18 16:31:46 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Eric - fishbot wrote: > - I am thinking that in March or April I would try to give > a talk about Perl 6 Rules and Grammars. They are > tremendously powerful, and it is possible that we might > actually be able to use them in place of tools like > Parse::RecDescent and lex/yacc well before Perl 6 sees a > production environment. Please let me know if there is > interest in this topic. The only thing I've used grammars for is parsing HTML/XML, and parts of it seemed sort of alien to me, but I'm sure you could make the topic interesting and accessible. Sounds good to me. > - Pizza for me, please. I linked the PizzaList wikipage to > the meeting, hope that doesn't make your life harder. Not at all. I think I'm going to see if they'll deliver, since my late afternoon thursday is sorta-kinda busy. Are there ore pizza fans, besides fishy, lloyd, and shuchit? Please put yourself on http://kw.pm.org/wiki/?PizzaList ...thanks. > - I'm returning Perl & XML to the lending library. Can I > borrow the Alpaca book? Yup- I'll make a note to bring "Learning Perl Objects, References, etc." -Daniel > See everyone in a couple days, > Eric > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From da at coder.com Tue Jan 18 16:58:36 2005 From: da at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Tue Jan 18 17:03:31 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, lloyd carr wrote: > What about colour? Indeed. What about it? :) > So what values would you use to create a RGB colour wheel? all of them? :) > Also how do you make a RGB colour on the wheel darker, is it some > proportitional lowering of the values? > I'm not looking for code, just numbers and arithmetic. Disclaimer; I know very little about the math involved. (Hence the uselessness of my answers above!) The perldoc here: http://search.cpan.org/~aizvorski/Graphics-ColorObject-0.4a4/ColorObject.pm suggests that converting from RGB to a HSV colour wheel (say) is non-linear if you want to correct for gamma. Check out the "see also" section on that page for two interesting references for more info. The first one looks well suited to providing an explanation without code... -Daniel > > - Lloyd > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Eric - fishbot wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:32:49 -0500 (EST) > > From: Eric - fishbot > > To: K/W Perl Mongers > > Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting > > > > > > Looking forward to seeing everyone this Thursday. Just a couple > > of notes and questions: > > > > - Yesterday I received a number (6) of copies of The Perl > > Review in the mail. So, I have my copy, and I will place > > one in the kwpm library (which is roughly equivalent to > > Daniel). That leaves several to distribute. I am > > tempted to ask for something like your favourite > > commandline switch, or a cool use for statement > > modifiers, but history tells me that I would end up > > carrying most copies back home :( So, free copy to the > > first 4 people who arrive. > > > > - I am thinking that in March or April I would try to give > > a talk about Perl 6 Rules and Grammars. They are > > tremendously powerful, and it is possible that we might > > actually be able to use them in place of tools like > > Parse::RecDescent and lex/yacc well before Perl 6 sees a > > production environment. Please let me know if there is > > interest in this topic. > > > > Notes for Daniel: > > > > - Pizza for me, please. I linked the PizzaList wikipage to > > the meeting, hope that doesn't make your life harder. > > > > - I'm returning Perl & XML to the lending library. Can I > > borrow the Alpaca book? > > > > See everyone in a couple days, > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > > kw-pm mailing list > > kw-pm@pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > > > > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Wed Jan 19 02:34:25 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Wed Jan 19 02:35:08 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Are there ore pizza fans, besides fishy, lloyd, and shuchit? Please put > yourself on http://kw.pm.org/wiki/?PizzaList ...thanks. "ore pizza" oh, oh yes "other pizza" for a second I thought Da had come up with a new kind of pizza ;-) What would you like on your pizza? "ore, fishy, lloyd and shuchit" I'm sorry sir I couldn't quite make that out, would you mind repeating that? From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Wed Jan 19 02:38:11 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Wed Jan 19 02:38:49 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] TPR at upcoming meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > What about colour? > > Indeed. What about it? :) > > > So what values would you use to create a RGB colour wheel? > > all of them? :) Thanks Daniel, I was feeling stupid, but after your reply I no longer feel that way ;-) - Lloyd From eric at uc.org Thu Jan 20 12:00:11 2005 From: eric at uc.org (Eric - fishbot) Date: Thu Jan 20 12:00:44 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] tonight - where? Message-ID: Daniel, You mentioned that the bioinformatics lab wasn't available this month... so where should we meet tonight? Also, I am not 100% I will have actual code to discuss tonight, this week has been crazy... but I do have two topics, and possibly a bit of nasty code that needs a refactor or something. The only question is if I can bowdlerise out the stuff that is under a NDA in time. If there are any pack/unpack experts out there, please attend ;) There is likely a free beer involved. Eric From daniel at coder.com Thu Jan 20 12:03:14 2005 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Thu Jan 20 12:08:01 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] tonight - DC 2305, UofW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We're at the bioinfo lab (DC 2305, U of Waterloo). You may have missed the post where I said so, if your week's been crazy :) No worries about what you'll have in advance, bring whatcha got. If we're lacking, I can provide some code to savage... (I'm a little irritable over it, because I've been asked to "make it better" instead of starting from scratch). -Daniel On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Eric - fishbot wrote: > > Daniel, > > You mentioned that the bioinformatics lab wasn't available this > month... so where should we meet tonight? > > Also, I am not 100% I will have actual code to discuss tonight, > this week has been crazy... but I do have two topics, and > possibly a bit of nasty code that needs a refactor or > something. The only question is if I can bowdlerise out the > stuff that is under a NDA in time. > > If there are any pack/unpack experts out there, please attend ;) > There is likely a free beer involved. > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From daniel at coder.com Thu Jan 20 12:30:38 2005 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Thu Jan 20 12:35:25 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Tonight's meeting: misc. announcements Message-ID: Some misc announcements from people who've approached me in the last few days: -- I've been asked by the organizer of an upcoming Linux Installfest to announce it and garner volunteers who are willing to give a (20? 30?) minute talk to people interested in Linux. Possible topics include why perl is a cool part of linux, or open-source in general... The Installfest is at the University of Waterloo, the afternoon of Wednesday the 16th. If you've got any interest in giving a talk, speak with me, or with tvinar@uwaterloo.ca . -- Last night I ran into Cedric, an occasional social-perl guy, and a great guy besides, who has a short-term Perl gig on offer. He works for an IC fabrication company (60 employees or so), in the area. They need help cleaning up a batch of ~20 perl scripts. They will pay good programmers wages. For more details, email cedric@thinkers.org . -- Secondly, I got an email from a criley@uwaterloo.ca, who has a position open at the U of Guelph, with the "Advanced Food and Materials Network"; and I quote: "Required Skills: PHP, PEAR, Fusebox, MySQL, Linux, CSS, XML, HTML, graphics design, javascript. Asset Skills: ability in written french, flash, experience with RDF and RSS, formal database training." Email Corban Riley at the above address for more info. --- See you tonight, I hope! -Daniel From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Fri Jan 21 14:43:23 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Fri Jan 21 14:44:06 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Zookrick Message-ID: Could someone tell Zookrick our meeting of the 20th is now past? dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org From daniel at coder.com Sat Jan 22 08:18:41 2005 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Sat Jan 22 12:23:40 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] pictures and poetry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lloyd asked about the ongoing poetry and picture code. I've gotten off my duff and put things up on the wiki. http://kw.pm.org/wiki/index.cgi?RhymingGenerator http://kw.pm.org/wiki/index.cgi?NineBlocks Including a set of instructions for installing your own SQL rhyme db and limmerick generator, which sort of works. If you're not too picky about your rhymes. (I think it's a simple bug with my chosen meter for the limericks, it was working much better before but I didn't have the changes in CVS, bah). And the latest version of the code which I used to make the quilt print. Which still needs work. -Daniel From dada.da at gmail.com Fri Jan 21 20:24:06 2005 From: dada.da at gmail.com (Daniel Allen) Date: Sat Jan 22 12:24:17 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Zookrick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *mumble* lazy gnomes. All better. In fact, I fixed a bug in the code to update the RecentChanges page. -Daniel On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:43:23 +0000 (UTC), lloyd carr wrote: > Could someone tell Zookrick our meeting of the 20th is now past? > > dcarr@sdf.lonestar.org > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > _______________________________________________ > kw-pm mailing list > kw-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kw-pm > From dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org Sun Jan 23 16:14:24 2005 From: dcarr at sdf.lonestar.org (lloyd carr) Date: Sun Jan 23 16:15:05 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Zookrick In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > *mumble* lazy gnomes. All better. Take care Daniel, he does have a union ;-) From glim at mycybernet.net Sun Jan 23 20:34:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (Gerard Lim) Date: Sun Jan 23 20:33:03 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 announces call-for-papers Message-ID: <200501232334.00278.glim@mycybernet.net> YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) has just released its call-for-papers; potential and aspiring speakers can submit a presentation proposal via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location will be in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced, but has been moved to accomodate venue availability.) The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm. If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author@yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor@yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. Other information regarding the conference (e.g. venue, registration specifics) will be announced soon. We look forward to your submissions and a great conference! From daniel at coder.com Mon Jan 24 07:14:50 2005 From: daniel at coder.com (Daniel R. Allen) Date: Mon Jan 24 07:20:05 2005 Subject: [kw-pm] quilt patterns: code review Message-ID: I've a favour to ask. Can you give me any suggestions on my quilt patterns code: http://kw.pm.org/wiki/index.cgi?NineBlocks If I can get this cleaned up in the next few days, that would be great. brian d foy wants to use it for the next Perl Review issue, but I just had another look at the code and I'm not at all convinced I like the way I did things. Should there be more 'use constants'? Should I do something else with all those 'my' globals flying around? What would you do to make it more idiomatic perl? -Daniel -- http://coder.com/ - Prescient Code Solutions - (519) 575-3733 da@coder.com