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<P><FONT SIZE=2>2002-11-19 Meeting Summary</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Stephen Clouse, David Dummler, Garrett Goebel, Lezlie Martin, Doug Sparling, and newcomer Adam Stajna were in attendance. Quite a drop from last month, but a good group. </FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>[Administrata]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>o KCLUG conflict</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> Yes, KCLUG (<A HREF="http://www.kclug.org/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.kclug.org/</A>) appears to meet on the first Wednesday and 3rd Tuesday of the month. Agenda item for next meeting: do we move to a different Tuesday?</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>o KC.PM web/mail conversion (Garrett Goebel and Andrew Moore) </FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> Hey look! the list has moved to kc@mail.pm.org. You should have gotten an email describing how you can access the administrative interface and archives.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>[Book Review]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>o Extending and Embedding Perl (Stephen Clouse)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> Stephen gave us an overview of the fact that this is a very good book. If Stephen doesn't get around to writing his review up and posting it to the list, I will. -As I've just gotten the okay from Manning for a review copy.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>[Puzzles]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>o Post Puzzle Analysis: Hoops 'Round Loops (Garrett Goebel)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Award the Green (with Envy) Camel in abstentia to Paul Kulchenko for his 66 byte entry:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> map{/KCPM/&&printf("%s/%s/%s %s",(split/-|,/)[1,2,0,5])}sort<DATA></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>The fastest was a revision I made to Paul's script which removed 3 unnecessary bytes, but added 4:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> map printf("%s/%s/%s %s",(split/-|,/)[1,2,0,5]),sort grep/K/,<DATA></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Curiously enough, the discussion centered around the use of grep, sort, split, printf, and map. The Green Camel is a rather heavy green glass camel figurine. The current plan is that the winner of each month's puzzle will take possession of the camel in the interceeding month before giving it up to the next month's victor.</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>o New Puzzle: Chicken and the Egg (Garrett Goebel)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2> Will be posted to the list shortly</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>[Presentation]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>o POE (Garrett Goebel)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I shamelessly stole and presented the first half of Matt Sergeant's excellent TPC2002 presentation on POE. Which you can find at: </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2> <A HREF="http://axkit.org/docs/presentations/tpc2002/" TARGET="_blank">http://axkit.org/docs/presentations/tpc2002/</A></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>POE is pretty neat.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Garrett Goebel </FONT>
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