From djgoku at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 10:39:58 2013 From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:39:58 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting Message-ID: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Anyone interested in meeting this month. I may not be able to attend because of prior arrangements. Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? Jonathan Otsuka From stephenclouse at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 12:43:57 2013 From: stephenclouse at gmail.com (Stephen Clouse) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:43:57 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > Anyone interested in meeting this month. > I'm always down. > Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? > Personally I'd say something like a Panera or a coffeehouse, but that may adversely affect our alcoholic demographic. -- Stephen Clouse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djgoku at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 13:03:48 2013 From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:03:48 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am ok with changing it up. What about a space we could bring laptops and say work on something? Show/tell? Jonathan Otsuka On Aug 7, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Stephen Clouse wrote: > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > Anyone interested in meeting this month. > > I'm always down. > > Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? > > Personally I'd say something like a Panera or a coffeehouse, but that may adversely affect our alcoholic demographic. > > -- > Stephen Clouse > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 21:57:31 2013 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 23:57:31 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: mudpie. West 39th street. Google fiber enhanced wifi. Upstairs room available for ad-hoc occupation. What about a space we could bring laptops and say work on something? > Show/tell? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From popefelix at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 06:23:29 2013 From: popefelix at gmail.com (Kit Peters) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 08:23:29 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: I like that space. It was a nice place to go when it was Javanaut. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:57 PM, David Nicol wrote: > mudpie. > > West 39th street. > > Google fiber enhanced wifi. > > Upstairs room available for ad-hoc occupation. > > > What about a space we could bring laptops and say work on something? >> Show/tell? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- Kit Peters, W0KEH GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djgoku at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 06:39:51 2013 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 08:39:51 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ahh. I went to javanaut back when cowtown computer congress was just starting. That sounds good to me. Others thoughts? Jonathan Otsuka > On Aug 8, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Kit Peters wrote: > > I like that space. It was a nice place to go when it was Javanaut. > > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:57 PM, David Nicol wrote: >> mudpie. >> >> West 39th street. >> >> Google fiber enhanced wifi. >> >> Upstairs room available for ad-hoc occupation. >> >> >>> What about a space we could bring laptops and say work on something? Show/tell? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kc mailing list >> kc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > -- > Kit Peters, W0KEH > GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Thu Aug 8 13:33:26 2013 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:33:26 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Kit Peters wrote: > I like that space. It was a nice place to go when it was Javanaut. > it was nice as "The Crave," "Cantata 211," and "Pie Kappa Chino" also. I may have even left one or two out! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amoore at mooresystems.com Sun Aug 11 16:31:36 2013 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd love to, but I'm not going to be able. Have fun! -A On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > Anyone interested in meeting this month. I may not be able to attend > because of prior arrangements. > > Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? > > Jonathan Otsuka > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com Mon Aug 12 09:25:40 2013 From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:25:40 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: Even though I am usually in the group that likes to grab a beer during the meeting, I like the new proposed location. I hope I can make it tomorrow but am not sure, I have to check with the wifey. Jason Rush On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: > I'd love to, but I'm not going to be able. Have fun! > -A > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > >> Anyone interested in meeting this month. I may not be able to attend >> because of prior arrangements. >> >> Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? >> >> Jonathan Otsuka >> _______________________________________________ >> kc mailing list >> kc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From popefelix at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 09:41:06 2013 From: popefelix at gmail.com (Kit Peters) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:41:06 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: I won't be able to make it tomorrow. Kit Peters, W0KEH Sent from my phone On Aug 12, 2013 11:25 AM, "Jason Rush" wrote: > Even though I am usually in the group that likes to grab a beer during the > meeting, I like the new proposed location. > > I hope I can make it tomorrow but am not sure, I have to check with the > wifey. > > Jason Rush > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: > >> I'd love to, but I'm not going to be able. Have fun! >> -A >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, wrote: >> >>> Anyone interested in meeting this month. I may not be able to attend >>> because of prior arrangements. >>> >>> Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? >>> >>> Jonathan Otsuka >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kc mailing list >>> kc at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kc mailing list >> kc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djgoku at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 15:34:48 2013 From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:34:48 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: I am for sure busy tomorrow night. So someone else will have to be leader! I had some things to share, but will have to wait until next month or if I finally setup a blog you can read my ramblings. Jonathan Otsuka On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Kit Peters wrote: > I won't be able to make it tomorrow. > > Kit Peters, W0KEH > Sent from my phone > > On Aug 12, 2013 11:25 AM, "Jason Rush" wrote: > Even though I am usually in the group that likes to grab a beer during the meeting, I like the new proposed location. > > I hope I can make it tomorrow but am not sure, I have to check with the wifey. > > Jason Rush > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrew Moore wrote: > I'd love to, but I'm not going to be able. Have fun! > -A > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM, wrote: > Anyone interested in meeting this month. I may not be able to attend because of prior arrangements. > > Anyone have ideas for maybe a quieter meeting place? > > Jonathan Otsuka > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 17:33:38 2013 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:33:38 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: ?I'm at MudPie; no Perl Mongers in evidence aside from myself -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Tue Aug 13 19:14:21 2013 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 21:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <2168A0EB-8863-4EB0-A448-2C6FDCD24533@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nobody else showed up, so I reviewed Sprout's corrections to the postfix dereference syntax test suite. Postfix dereferencing may be available in 5.20. Postfix dereferencing means, instead of putting the sygil on the left side of a name or a scalar holding a reference, you put it on the right end like a method call. There are six new postfix dereferencing operators, along with the postfix method calls and scalar container member extraction we've had forever. Pre-existing postfix dereferencing syntax: $obj->METHODNAME send a METHODNAME invocation message to $obj $obj->METHODNAME(...) send a METHODNAME invocation message to $obj, with args $ar->[N] look up an element in an array, like $$ar[N] $hr->{STRING} look up a value in a hash, like $$hr{STRING} $cr->(...) run the code in a code reference with ... as arguments New postfix dereferencing syntax: $sr->$* dereference a reference to a scalar, like $$sr $ar->@* dereference a reference to an array, like @$ar $ar->@[...] array reference slice, like @$ar[...] $hr->@{...} hash reference slice, like @$hr{...} $gr->** dereference a reference to a typeglob, like *$gr $gr->*{...} access a slot in a typeglob reference, like *$gr{...} As arrow binds tighter than the \ take-a-reference operator, taking references remains prefix only. -- You've got to wiggle before you can crawl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM, David Nicol wrote: > Postfix dereferencing may be available in 5.20. > > Postfix dereferencing means, instead of putting the sygil on the left side > of a name or a scalar holding a reference, you put it on the right end like > a method call. > > There are six new postfix dereferencing operators, along with the postfix > method calls and scalar container member extraction we've had forever. > > Pre-existing postfix dereferencing syntax: > $obj->METHODNAME send a METHODNAME invocation message to $obj > $obj->METHODNAME(...) send a METHODNAME invocation message to $obj, > with args > $ar->[N] look up an element in an array, like $$ar[N] > $hr->{STRING} look up a value in a hash, like $$hr{STRING} > $cr->(...) run the code in a code reference with ... as > arguments > > New postfix dereferencing syntax: > $sr->$* dereference a reference to a scalar, like $$sr > $ar->@* dereference a reference to an array, like @$ar > $ar->@[...] array reference slice, like @$ar[...] > $hr->@{...} hash reference slice, like @$hr{...} > $gr->** dereference a reference to a typeglob, like *$gr > $gr->*{...} access a slot in a typeglob reference, like > *$gr{...} > > > As arrow binds tighter than the \ take-a-reference operator, taking > references remains prefix only. > > > -- > You've got to wiggle before you can crawl > -- You've got to wiggle before you can crawl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What are peoples thoughts on some saturday/sunday for a 2-3-4 hour hacking session? Jonathan Otsuka On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, ironicface at earthlink.net wrote: > Sorry I couldn't make it. > > Mudpie is a great venue, and a little closer to me, so I might make more meetings there. > Have we ever (recently) considered doing a Perl hack day? > > Teal > > To: "Kansas City Perl Mongers (kc.pm)" > Subject: Re: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting > > > ?I'm at MudPie; no Perl Mongers in evidence aside from myself > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From popefelix at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 09:20:30 2013 From: popefelix at gmail.com (Kit Peters) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:20:30 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: <43A7682D-4FE2-4B90-BBD2-5E8946566650@gmail.com> References: <5024207.1376452319554.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <43A7682D-4FE2-4B90-BBD2-5E8946566650@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd be game, probably. I don't have any personal projects I'm working on, so I can help hack on someone else's thing. On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > I have thought about this for a few months now, since all these > "hackithons" are happening. Not sure what we would do. I know I would like > to get some points on some of my code and learn more about testing. > > What are peoples thoughts on some saturday/sunday for a 2-3-4 hour hacking > session? > > Jonathan Otsuka > > On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, ironicface at earthlink.net wrote: > > Sorry I couldn't make it. > > Mudpie is a great venue, and a little closer to me, so I might make more > meetings there. > Have we ever (recently) considered doing a Perl hack day? > > Teal > > **To: "Kansas City Perl Mongers (kc.pm)" ** > Subject: Re: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting > > > ?I'm at MudPie; no Perl Mongers in evidence aside from myself > **** > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > > > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- Kit Peters, W0KEH GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 14:32:47 2013 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 16:32:47 -0500 Subject: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting In-Reply-To: References: <5024207.1376452319554.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <43A7682D-4FE2-4B90-BBD2-5E8946566650@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm always looking for people willing to help w/ my projects On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Kit Peters wrote: > I'd be game, probably. I don't have any personal projects I'm working on, > so I can help hack on someone else's thing. > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > >> I have thought about this for a few months now, since all these >> "hackithons" are happening. Not sure what we would do. I know I would like >> to get some points on some of my code and learn more about testing. >> >> What are peoples thoughts on some saturday/sunday for a 2-3-4 hour >> hacking session? >> >> Jonathan Otsuka >> >> On Aug 13, 2013, at 10:51 PM, ironicface at earthlink.net wrote: >> >> Sorry I couldn't make it. >> >> Mudpie is a great venue, and a little closer to me, so I might make more >> meetings there. >> Have we ever (recently) considered doing a Perl hack day? >> >> Teal >> >> **To: "Kansas City Perl Mongers (kc.pm)" ** >> Subject: Re: [Kc] August 13, 2013 meeting >> >> >> ?I'm at MudPie; no Perl Mongers in evidence aside from myself >> **** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kc mailing list >> kc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kc mailing list >> kc at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc >> > > > > -- > Kit Peters, W0KEH > GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 > 46A7 > > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- You've got to wiggle before you can crawl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Aug 20 10:11:21 2013 From: djgoku at gmail.com (djgoku at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 12:11:21 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Perl Job - Olathe KS Message-ID: <2738A6FE-6D30-4C18-95E5-C19D357B383A@gmail.com> https://lpsvcs.taleo.net/careersection/3/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en&job=161000&src=JB-10060 This job is on the Kansas side out in Olathe KS. Jonathan Otsuka From dougl at dougledbetter.org Fri Aug 30 12:42:01 2013 From: dougl at dougledbetter.org (Doug Ledbetter) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:42:01 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Perl Job - Olathe KS In-Reply-To: <2738A6FE-6D30-4C18-95E5-C19D357B383A@gmail.com> References: <2738A6FE-6D30-4C18-95E5-C19D357B383A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <049901cea5b8$ff649370$fe2dba50$@dougledbetter.org> Thanks! On a whim I applied and got an interview. It seemed to go very well. Who is my competition on here? ;-) -dougl ____________________________________________________________ -- Doug Ledbetter dougl at dougledbetter.org http://www.dougledbetter.org/ My PGP Public Key: http://dougledbetter.org/public_key.html -----Original Message----- From: kc [mailto:kc-bounces+dougl=dougledbetter.org at pm.org] On Behalf Of djgoku at gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:11 PM To: kc.pm Mongers (kc.pm) Subject: [Kc] Perl Job - Olathe KS https://lpsvcs.taleo.net/careersection/3/jobdetail.ftl?lang=en&job=161000&sr c=JB-10060 This job is on the Kansas side out in Olathe KS. Jonathan Otsuka _______________________________________________ kc mailing list kc at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc