From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 10:40:42 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:40:42 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
Message-ID: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>

I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?

Jonathan Otsuka

From rsaxvc at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 10:48:38 2012
From: rsaxvc at gmail.com (Richard Allen)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:48:38 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
References: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
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You could pipe stderr in the shell seperatelyfrom stdout, but you can also
redirect it in perl

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/rgs/mosaic/pl-exp-io.html

The second codesnippet under open has an example
On Mar 7, 2012 12:41 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I
> may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data
> that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and
> was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another
> way or is this the best way?
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Wed Mar  7 10:48:36 2012
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (ironicface at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 12:48:36 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
Message-ID: <19945799.1331146117488.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Why do you not want to open a new file handle for the report?

>Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
>
>I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
>
>Jonathan Otsuka
>_______________________________________________
>kc mailing list
>kc at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc


From chrisstinemetz at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:01:11 2012
From: chrisstinemetz at gmail.com (Chris Stinemetz)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:01:11 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
References: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

Why not open a filehandle to redirect the output?

open my $out, '>', $output or die "Error opening $output: $!";

print $out .... "you fill in the blanks..."

From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:02:50 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:02:50 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <CAENJYHqZqKZ_9Mgb8i1chieYyuE3JecKjZ5CXUVk1Yjj0inNqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
	<CAENJYHqZqKZ_9Mgb8i1chieYyuE3JecKjZ5CXUVk1Yjj0inNqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3334BF9A-7C26-453C-B1E7-37D545CAE1F5@gmail.com>

I want the user to choose what to do with STDOUT and STDERR on CLI. 

Jonathan Otsuka

On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Richard Allen <rsaxvc at gmail.com> wrote:

> You could pipe stderr in the shell seperatelyfrom stdout, but you can also redirect it in perl
> 
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/rgs/mosaic/pl-exp-io.html
> 
> The second codesnippet under open has an example
> 
> On Mar 7, 2012 12:41 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
> 
> Jonathan Otsuka
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> _______________________________________________
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:04:36 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:04:36 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <19945799.1331146117488.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19945799.1331146117488.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <925AF8A6-397B-4193-922E-2B556605103A@gmail.com>

Open a new file handle then redirect it to STDERR? Or do you mean to open a new handle and save the report?

Jonathan Otsuka

On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:48 PM, ironicface at earthlink.net wrote:

> Why do you not want to open a new file handle for the report?
> 
>> Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
>> 
>> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
>> 
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> 
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From brian.hann at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:06:33 2012
From: brian.hann at gmail.com (Brian Hann)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:06:33 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
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References: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
	<CAENJYHqZqKZ_9Mgb8i1chieYyuE3JecKjZ5CXUVk1Yjj0inNqw@mail.gmail.com>
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If it's on the command line, you could use GetOpt::Long::Descriptive to set
an optional filename argument for both the normal output and report output
and then you wouldn't have to worry about wrangling output stream syntax
when running the command.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:

> I want the user to choose what to do with STDOUT and STDERR on CLI.
>
> Jonathan Otsuka
>
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Richard Allen <rsaxvc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You could pipe stderr in the shell seperatelyfrom stdout, but you can also
> redirect it in perl
>
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/rgs/mosaic/pl-exp-io.html
>
> The second codesnippet under open has an example
> On Mar 7, 2012 12:41 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I
>> may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data
>> that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and
>> was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another
>> way or is this the best way?
>>
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:09:21 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:09:21 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <CAENJYHqZqKZ_9Mgb8i1chieYyuE3JecKjZ5CXUVk1Yjj0inNqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
	<CAENJYHqZqKZ_9Mgb8i1chieYyuE3JecKjZ5CXUVk1Yjj0inNqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BB0FF591-B2B7-43BF-96A1-82AC9FD4823B@gmail.com>

$ script.pl
Data1
Data2
Data3
Processed: 100 records

$ script.pl > file
Processed: 100 records

Jonathan Otsuka

On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Richard Allen <rsaxvc at gmail.com> wrote:

> You could pipe stderr in the shell seperatelyfrom stdout, but you can also redirect it in perl
> 
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/rgs/mosaic/pl-exp-io.html
> 
> The second codesnippet under open has an example
> 
> On Mar 7, 2012 12:41 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
> 
> Jonathan Otsuka
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 11:53:39 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:53:39 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <CAHyXSV7TL6ss=KJuEUobske-ijQbCYpDKxvQwQGDLRopstGKqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F8CFF184-DB11-4215-8BA5-DAB0FC237533@gmail.com>
	<CAENJYHqZqKZ_9Mgb8i1chieYyuE3JecKjZ5CXUVk1Yjj0inNqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<3334BF9A-7C26-453C-B1E7-37D545CAE1F5@gmail.com>
	<CAHyXSV7TL6ss=KJuEUobske-ijQbCYpDKxvQwQGDLRopstGKqg@mail.gmail.com>
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I am using getopt::long so I could add another parameter, but sometimes I want to see the data before I save it to a file.

I think I am going to change lines that I want to output to the screen if I redirect STDOUT or not to:

# since STDERR filehandle is already open for us
print STDERR "blah";

Instead of using:

warn "blah";

Jonathan Otsuka

On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brian Hann <brian.hann at gmail.com> wrote:

> If it's on the command line, you could use GetOpt::Long::Descriptive to set an optional filename argument for both the normal output and report output and then you wouldn't have to worry about wrangling output stream syntax when running the command.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I want the user to choose what to do with STDOUT and STDERR on CLI. 
> 
> Jonathan Otsuka
> 
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Richard Allen <rsaxvc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> You could pipe stderr in the shell seperatelyfrom stdout, but you can also redirect it in perl
>> 
>> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/rgs/mosaic/pl-exp-io.html
>> 
>> The second codesnippet under open has an example
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2012 12:41 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
>> 
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> 
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> 
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From ironicface at earthlink.net  Wed Mar  7 12:11:04 2012
From: ironicface at earthlink.net (ironicface at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:11:04 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
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From chrisstinemetz at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 12:14:43 2012
From: chrisstinemetz at gmail.com (Chris Stinemetz)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:14:43 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
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On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am using getopt::long so I could add another parameter, but sometimes I
> want to see the data before I save it to a file.
>
> I think I am going to change lines that I want to output to the screen if I
> redirect STDOUT or not to:
>
> # since STDERR filehandle is already open for us
> print STDERR "blah";
>
> Instead of using:
>
> warn "blah";
>
> Jonathan Otsuka

This is how I would handle it without using getopt modules.

use warnings;
use strict;

my $OUTPUT;
my $outFile = "out.txt";

print "Would you like STDOUT and STDERR on CLI? \[yes no\]\n";

while ( $OUTPUT = <STDIN> ) {
  if ( $OUTPUT =~ /[yY]es/ ) {
    $OUTPUT = 1;
    last;
    }

  if ( $OUTPUT =~ /[nN]o/ ) {
    $OUTPUT = 0;
    last;
  }
}
open my $out,'>',$outFile or die "ERROR opening $outFile: $!" if $OUTPUT == 0;

print "STDOUT and STDERR you chose Yes\n" if $OUTPUT == 1;
print $out "You chose No\n" if $OUTPUT == 0;

print "Check the file out.txt\n" if $OUTPUT == 0;

From djgoku at gmail.com  Wed Mar  7 12:30:28 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:30:28 -0600
Subject: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR
In-Reply-To: <24844325.1331151064816.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <24844325.1331151064816.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <DB1A4114-D7B5-4B3D-BA6F-3B6B8E398787@gmail.com>

The data file read is usually megabytes in size I keep all off the data and that would eat up a lot of RAM. I like that idea though if it was a smaller data set. 

Jonathan Otsuka

On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:11 PM, ironicface at earthlink.net wrote:

> Ok, I think I understand better now.
> 
> Since STDERR AND STDOUT both just direct to the console, and you essentially want the work to be saved,
> why not open a file handle for the work (and maybe one for the report), and use STDOUT with some interface
> questions (# Review report data (y/n)), to preview the report before you save anything.
> (I.e., send the report to STDOUT before saving a copy of it to the file handle)
> Then have a followup interface question to save or abort, or whatever seems appropriate.
> 
> Teal
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Jonathan Otsuka 
> Sent: Mar 7, 2012 1:53 PM 
> To: "Kansas City Perl Mongers (kc.pm)" 
> Subject: Re: [Kc] say STDOUT and warn STDERR 
> 
> I am using getopt::long so I could add another parameter, but sometimes I want to see the data before I save it to a file.
> 
> I think I am going to change lines that I want to output to the screen if I redirect STDOUT or not to:
> 
> # since STDERR filehandle is already open for us
> print STDERR "blah";
> 
> Instead of using:
> 
> warn "blah";
> 
> Jonathan Otsuka
> 
> On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:06 PM, Brian Hann <brian.hann at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> If it's on the command line, you could use GetOpt::Long::Descriptive to set an optional filename argument for both the normal output and report output and then you wouldn't have to worry about wrangling output stream syntax when running the command.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I want the user to choose what to do with STDOUT and STDERR on CLI. 
>> 
>> Jonathan Otsuka
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Richard Allen <rsaxvc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> You could pipe stderr in the shell seperatelyfrom stdout, but you can also redirect it in perl
>>> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/rgs/mosaic/pl-exp-io.html
>>> The second codesnippet under open has an example
>>> On Mar 7, 2012 12:41 PM, "Jonathan Otsuka" <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have a program that process/format a file then prints to STDOUT which I may want to save/redirect to a file. I also create a report of the data that was processed, but I don't want the report output sent to STDOUT and was thinking of using warn since its output is to STDERR. Is there another way or is this the best way?
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Otsuka
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kc mailing list
>>> kc at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> kc mailing list
>>> kc at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> kc mailing list
>> kc at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:50:21 -0600
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From djgoku at gmail.com  Sun Mar 11 21:20:26 2012
From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:20:26 -0500
Subject: [Kc] March 2012 Meeting
Message-ID: <39351BD6-0DB1-4405-B1E4-EE065B8BC085@gmail.com>

Anyone interested in meeting on Tuesday? I wonder if the expansion is done yet.

Jonathan

From amoore at mooresystems.com  Mon Mar 12 11:41:55 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Kc] March 2012 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <39351BD6-0DB1-4405-B1E4-EE065B8BC085@gmail.com>
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You bet! Thanks for the reminder!

I've played around with building a catalyst app on dotcloud.com this
month, so I could share some experiences with plack on dotcloud if
anyone is interested in hearing them. I'd also love to hear if there's
a cheaper alternative that's worth trying out.

see you tomorrow evening!
-Andy


On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone interested in meeting on Tuesday? I wonder if the expansion is done yet.
>
> Jonathan
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc

From amoore at mooresystems.com  Mon Mar 12 11:47:31 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:47:31 -0500
Subject: [Kc] March 2012 Meeting
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	<CAFAeay2N6=3QHpDTkJjE=sqLeMOZp1H0=xoHWS23Rohf3CreFg@mail.gmail.com>
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Ooops! Barleys is closed for reconstruction until the end of the
month. I'll find a reasonable substitute and get an update out to the
list this afternoon.

In the meantime, if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.

-Andy

From amoore at mooresystems.com  Mon Mar 12 12:45:03 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:45:03 -0500
Subject: [Kc] KC Perl mongers March meeting MOVED to 75th Street Brewery in
	Waldo
Message-ID: <CAFAeay3NG_tyCdHDbgU5cHHhn=XquiAYeKgz8of6RojHkiH62g@mail.gmail.com>

Jonathan reminds me that tomorrow is the 2nd Tuesday in March, so it's
time for the KC Perl Mongers meeting. Our regular location is closed
this month, so we're meeting at 75th Street Brewery in Waldo instead.
It's one block West of Wornall on 75th Street. We'll get together at
the regular time: 7pm.

I've been building a catalyst application on dotcloud.com this month
and can chat about deploying plack applications on dotcloud. I'd also
love to hear about any cheaper alternatives if anyone has experience
with them. Jonathan says he has some questions about database access
from a piece of code and will bring it to discuss.

Please let me know if you're going to make it, and if enough folks are
coming, I'll call to reserve the back room.

I look forward to seeing you there!
-Andy

From davidnicol at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 13:11:59 2012
From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:11:59 -0500
Subject: [Kc] March 2012 Meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay2N6=3QHpDTkJjE=sqLeMOZp1H0=xoHWS23Rohf3CreFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <39351BD6-0DB1-4405-B1E4-EE065B8BC085@gmail.com>
	<CAFAeay2N6=3QHpDTkJjE=sqLeMOZp1H0=xoHWS23Rohf3CreFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFwScO_3PpK9cUDuiZKaA13Ubxp7MBb+5ScKS5BLznvGTXPcRw@mail.gmail.com>

$0/month is tough to beat, pricing-wise. They charge by the service. What's
a "service?"

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Andrew Moore <amoore at mooresystems.com>wrote:

> You bet! Thanks for the reminder!
>
> I've played around with building a catalyst app on dotcloud.com this
> month, so I could share some experiences with plack on dotcloud if
> anyone is interested in hearing them. I'd also love to hear if there's
> a cheaper alternative that's worth trying out.
>
> see you tomorrow evening!
> -Andy
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Jonathan Otsuka <djgoku at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Anyone interested in meeting on Tuesday? I wonder if the expansion is
> done yet.
> >
> > Jonathan
> > _______________________________________________
> > kc mailing list
> > kc at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
> _______________________________________________
> kc mailing list
> kc at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>



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From hochwender at centurytel.net  Mon Mar 12 17:03:13 2012
From: hochwender at centurytel.net (Curt Hochwender)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 17:03:13 -0700
Subject: [Kc] KC Perl mongers March meeting MOVED to 75th Street Brewery
	inWaldo
In-Reply-To: <CAFAeay3NG_tyCdHDbgU5cHHhn=XquiAYeKgz8of6RojHkiH62g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PFELLPFBAMIMHMLPCNMIKENACAAA.hochwender@centurytel.net>

I've been playing with mojolicious and dotcloud... So, I might be able to
contribue as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: kc-bounces+hochwender=centurytel.net at pm.org
[mailto:kc-bounces+hochwender=centurytel.net at pm.org]On Behalf Of Andrew
Moore
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:45 PM
To: kc at pm.org
Subject: [Kc] KC Perl mongers March meeting MOVED to 75th Street Brewery
inWaldo


Jonathan reminds me that tomorrow is the 2nd Tuesday in March, so it's
time for the KC Perl Mongers meeting. Our regular location is closed
this month, so we're meeting at 75th Street Brewery in Waldo instead.
It's one block West of Wornall on 75th Street. We'll get together at
the regular time: 7pm.

I've been building a catalyst application on dotcloud.com this month
and can chat about deploying plack applications on dotcloud. I'd also
love to hear about any cheaper alternatives if anyone has experience
with them. Jonathan says he has some questions about database access
from a piece of code and will bring it to discuss.

Please let me know if you're going to make it, and if enough folks are
coming, I'll call to reserve the back room.

I look forward to seeing you there!
-Andy
_______________________________________________
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kc at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc


From amoore at mooresystems.com  Wed Mar 14 06:36:19 2012
From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:36:19 -0500
Subject: [Kc] last night's meeting
Message-ID: <CAFAeay0Kuh3+QRQC_=ixvJdor7E7h_=pwdDdU-d4js_aU89EuQ@mail.gmail.com>

We had a great meeting last night at 75th Street Brewery. We chatted
about tons of topics like:
- Log::Log4perl
- profiling and optimizing database driven applications
- using DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader to investigate database schemas or
bootstrap your DBIx::Class Result classes
- the local employment scene
- building tests with Test::More, Test::Class and friends
- tons more that I've forgotten

And of course we drank most of the Dry Irish Stout that they had on tap.

There was pretty wide support for continuing meetings at the 75th
Street Brewery, so we'll probably return there next month (Tuesday
April 10). Perhaps this will let some of you folks in Missouri make it
more easily.

In the meantime, don't hesitate to use the mailing list or drop by
#kcpm on irc.perl.org.

See you in April!

-Andy