From peter at peknet.com Thu Jun 2 19:27:57 2011 From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman) Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 21:27:57 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released Message-ID: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> As some of you have heard me talk about Perl and search engines at Frozen Perl and elsewhere, I wanted to let readers of these lists know that Apache Lucy 0.1.0 was released today: http://s.apache.org/Qm0 Apache Lucy is the project formerly known as KinoSearch, now a podling in the Apache Incubator. Apache Lucy is a search engine library loosely based on Lucene. Version 0.1.0 has bindings for Perl. It's available now on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucy/ cheers, pek -- Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com From jay.hannah at iinteractive.com Fri Jun 3 14:37:36 2011 From: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com (Jay Hannah) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 16:37:36 -0500 Subject: [Kc] [Omaha.pm]
In-Reply-To: References: <8F4232DC-462F-4189-B663-EBC2C403F5CC@jays.net> Message-ID: On Jun 3, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Sterling Hanenkamp wrote: > Btw, I'll be giving my telecommute talk at YAPC again this year, for anyone interested. > > http://www.yapc2011.us/yn2011/talk/3323 I've been fulltime telecommute since October 2010. Starting to get the hang of it. Looking forward to your talk. :) So I'm solo from Omaha, and you're solo from KC? http://www.yapc2011.us/yn2011/stats -sigh- Well, at least we'll be solo together. :) See you there, Jay Hannah Senior Developer / Consultant http://www.iinteractive.com Email: jay.hannah at iinteractive.com AOL IM: deafferret Mobile: 1.402.598.7782 Fax: 1.402.691.9496 From djgoku at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 21:45:09 2011 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting Message-ID: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Anyone going to make it out this month? Jonathan From stephenclouse at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 12:05:13 2011 From: stephenclouse at gmail.com (Stephen Clouse) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:05:13 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > Anyone going to make it out this month? > Planning on it...but you do realize the meeting's *next* week, right? -- Stephen Clouse -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Jun 7 12:19:15 2011 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:19:15 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <311CBF2E-B47D-49FB-8890-0DBDF12B183F@gmail.com> Haha. Maybe I should check the calendar my sense of time has been off lately. Jonathan On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Stephen Clouse wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > Anyone going to make it out this month? > > Planning on it...but you do realize the meeting's next week, right? > > -- > Stephen Clouse > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sterling at hanenkamp.com Wed Jun 8 08:41:07 2011 From: sterling at hanenkamp.com (Sterling Hanenkamp) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released In-Reply-To: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> Message-ID: Thanks for sharing. I've got a couple projects I've been intending to sic KinoSearch on. I'll check it out. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Peter Karman wrote: > As some of you have heard me talk about Perl and search engines at Frozen > Perl > and elsewhere, I wanted to let readers of these lists know that Apache Lucy > 0.1.0 was released today: > > http://s.apache.org/Qm0 > > Apache Lucy is the project formerly known as KinoSearch, now a podling in > the > Apache Incubator. Apache Lucy is a search engine library loosely based on > Lucene. Version 0.1.0 has bindings for Perl. > > It's available now on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucy/ > > cheers, > pek > -- > Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -- Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp sterling at hanenkamp.com 785.370.4454 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidnicol at gmail.com Wed Jun 8 08:59:53 2011 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:59:53 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released In-Reply-To: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> Message-ID: Just for conversation's sake, anyone familiar enough with Lucy and with SQLite FTSE to compare and contrast? On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Peter Karman wrote: > As some of you have heard me talk about Perl and search engines at Frozen > Perl > and elsewhere, I wanted to let readers of these lists know that Apache Lucy > 0.1.0 was released today: > > http://s.apache.org/Qm0 > > Apache Lucy is the project formerly known as KinoSearch, now a podling in > the > Apache Incubator. Apache Lucy is a search engine library loosely based on > Lucene. Version 0.1.0 has bindings for Perl. > > It's available now on CPAN: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Lucy/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amoore at mooresystems.com Wed Jun 8 09:45:39 2011 From: amoore at mooresystems.com (Andrew Moore) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it. It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun! -Andy On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > Anyone going to make it out this month? > > Jonathan > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > From peter at peknet.com Sat Jun 11 18:12:23 2011 From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:12:23 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released In-Reply-To: References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> Message-ID: <4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com> David Nicol wrote on 6/8/11 10:59 AM: > Just for conversation's sake, anyone familiar enough with Lucy and with SQLite > FTSE to compare and contrast? Good topic for conversation, David. I've read over the SQLite full-text search docs[0] and off-the-cuff I'd say that there are pros/cons to both approaches. The architecture underlying both is basically the same: an inverted index of tokenized terms. Obviously if you want to provide search on top of an existing SQLite database, using the built-in FTS features are very convenient. If your text is mostly ASCII and you don't require custom tokenizing (or stemming beyond the supplied Porter stemmer), then SQLite is probably going to serve you well for small-to-medium projects. If you need to scale your search application beyond a few gigs of data, or your doc collection isn't already in a SQLite db, or you need i18n support (esp for stemming in multiple languages), then you're probably going to need an IR library like Lucy. First, it's a library, so you can customize your indexing and searching code to fit your particular application. Second, it's in Perl (which for this audience should be a win). Third, it provides very flexible tokenizing and stemming options (Lucy ships with Snowball support). Lucy is in the same camp as Lucene, Sphinx, Xapian, etc. It's for when you Get Serious about your search application. [0] http://www.sqlite.org/fts3.html -- Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com From ironicface at earthlink.net Sat Jun 11 18:40:30 2011 From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Me) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:40:30 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released In-Reply-To: <4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com> References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> <4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com> Message-ID: <4DF4190E.5040506@earthlink.net> I have looked at Lucene before. And it handles a lot of constructions of search morphology. But, of course, it requires a grounding in java to use. (I know there is solr, but you still need to maintain the software.) It looks like Lucy is maybe not quite as massive as Lucene, but easier to use in smaller productions (via apache instead of a servlet). They mention a quicker startup time than Lucene. Which seem to support this approach? Is lucy easy to install? (Which would make it nice for smaller projects.) Thanks, Teal From peter at peknet.com Sat Jun 11 18:52:36 2011 From: peter at peknet.com (Peter Karman) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:52:36 -0500 Subject: [Kc] Apache Lucy 0.1.0 released In-Reply-To: <4DF4190E.5040506@earthlink.net> References: <4DE846AD.3060705@peknet.com> <4DF41277.1010701@peknet.com> <4DF4190E.5040506@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4DF41BE4.8080207@peknet.com> Me wrote on 6/11/11 8:40 PM: > I have looked at Lucene before. > And it handles a lot of constructions of search morphology. > But, of course, it requires a grounding in java to use. > (I know there is solr, but you still need to maintain the software.) > right. /me nods > It looks like Lucy is maybe not quite as massive as Lucene, but easier to > use in smaller productions (via apache instead of a servlet). > They mention a quicker startup time than Lucene. > Which seem to support this approach? Lucy relies heavily on mmap(). > > Is lucy easy to install? > (Which would make it nice for smaller projects.) tias. % cpan -i Lucy -- Peter Karman . http://peknet.com/ . peter at peknet.com From jason+kcpm at jlrush.com Tue Jun 14 13:59:10 2011 From: jason+kcpm at jlrush.com (Jason Rush) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:59:10 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: >> Anyone going to make it out this month? >> >> Jonathan >> _______________________________________________ On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it. > > It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun! > > -Andy > > My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not going to be able to make it tonight. Jason From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:04:01 2011 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is anyone going to be there tonight? Jonathan On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jason Rush wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: >>> Anyone going to make it out this month? >>> >>> Jonathan >>> _______________________________________________ > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: >> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it. >> >> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun! >> >> -Andy >> >> > > My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not > going to be able to make it tonight. > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc From paul.millard at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:06:02 2011 From: paul.millard at gmail.com (Paul Millard) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:06:02 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: I can't make it, got too much going on right now, getting a new roof and car is having trouble running. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > Is anyone going to be there tonight? > > Jonathan > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jason Rush wrote: > > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka > wrote: > >>> Anyone going to make it out this month? > >>> > >>> Jonathan > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore > wrote: > >> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it. > >> > >> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun! > >> > >> -Andy > >> > >> > > > > My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. So, I'm not > > going to be able to make it tonight. > > > > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > > kc mailing list > > kc at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > _______________________________________________ > kc mailing list > kc at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From djgoku at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 14:09:04 2011 From: djgoku at gmail.com (Jonathan Otsuka) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:09:04 -0500 Subject: [Kc] June meeting In-Reply-To: References: <49D8B578-5D95-4C57-9EB7-23EF3EF8900E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CC55C8D-C44B-4DE4-94D7-CC65F18F93A5@gmail.com> I am going to call this meeting off then. Jonathan On Jun 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Paul Millard wrote: > I can't make it, got too much going on right now, getting a new roof and car is having trouble running. > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > Is anyone going to be there tonight? > > Jonathan > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Jason Rush wrote: > > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Jonathan Otsuka wrote: > >>> Anyone going to make it out this month? > >>> > >>> Jonathan > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Moore wrote: > >> I'd love to go, but I won't be able to make it. > >> > >> It looks like it's the 14th this month. Have fun! > >> > >> -Andy > >> > >> > > > > My wife is out of town and left me a nice honey-do list. 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