From davidnicol at gmail.com Tue Mar 1 14:35:36 2005 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Wed Mar 2 06:54:54 2005 Subject: [Kc] eight pounds two ounces twentytwo inches Message-ID: <934f64a20503011435129708d7@mail.gmail.com> Aurora Nicol is here! From glim at mycybernet.net Sat Mar 19 12:10:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (glim@mycybernet.net) Date: Sat Mar 19 12:37:45 2005 Subject: [Kc] Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open Message-ID: ----------> Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, 2005 Registration now open. Conference dates: Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June 2005 Location: 89 Chestnut Street http://89chestnut.com/ University of Toronto Toronto, Ontario, Canada Info at: http://yapc.org/America Direct registration: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference_id=423 Full registration fee $85 (USD) Book now for great deals on accommodations and ensure a space for yourself. Speaking slots are still open. If you would like to present at YAPC::NA 2005, see: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml Details of this announcement: http://yapc.org/America/registration-announcement-2005.txt <---------- More Details ============ Registration for YAPC::NA (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) 2005 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada is now open. The conference registration price is USD$85. This price includes admission to all aspects of the conference, respectable amounts of catering, several activities and a few conference goodies. The YAPC North America 2005 conference features... * Fantastic speakers + most are the core creators of the technology on which they present + many are professional IT authors, trainers and conference speakers * An excellent learning opportunity * A chance to meet Perl professionals from all over North America and the world + YAPC attendees tend to be very involved in Perl and so are another great way to learn more about what the language has to offer beyond just what the speakers have to say * Extra-curricular / after hours activities * A great location in downtown Toronto All this, and the price is more than an order of magnitude cheaper than what commercial conferences can offer. This is because YAPC is a 100% volunteer effort, both from its organizers and its speakers. Quality is *not* sacrificed to achieve this stunning level of affordability. YAPC provides the best value-for-dollar in IT conferences. And it's a ton of fun, too. The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location is 89 Chestnut Street in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced; we moved the conference date to accommodate venue availability.) http://89chestnut.com/ -- a facility within the University of Toronto If you are at all interested in attending the conference... Book now! Book now! Book now! We have room for about 400 attendees and we hope to sell out well in advance of the late June conference date. However, the critical matter is that of hotels. The YAPC::NA 2005 organizers have made group arrangements with several facilities around the city to provide _excellent_ quality accommodations in _very_ convenient locations at _terrific_ prices for the _full_ capacity of conference attendees (around 400 people). (Finding, booking and paying accommodations is the responsibility of the attendees, but we will provide you with a list of the hotels and university dorms to try first based on our group arrangement with them when you register for the conference. Also, see the web site at http://yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml. More details will be up shortly. The dorm option will be approx. C$55/night, the hotel options will be more like C$90/night, and for slightly different prices there will be options for putting more than 1 person in a room. Exact details and how to book will be emailed directly to people who have registered for the conference as soon as they become available.) *The catch is -- book now!!* The group reservations will expire in early May, at which point in time the group rates will mostly still apply, but the rooms will be given out on an "availability basis". Which means that someone else outside of the YAPC group can book the rooms as well. Make no mistake -- the rooms *will* be sold. Toronto is a very active conference city in the summer and there will be _no_ guarantee of vacancies either at the facilities we made arrangements with or anywhere else in the city if you leave it to within 6 weeks of the conference date. So, if you want to save yourself the likely-fruitless headache of scrambling around looking for accommodations at the last minute, Book now! Book now! Book now! Have any questions? Email na-help@yapc.org for more details. Additionally, we are still welcoming submissions for proposals via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm (Toronto time). If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author@yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor@yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. From stigliz at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 14:46:49 2005 From: stigliz at gmail.com (Amedeo Guffanti) Date: Wed Mar 23 14:46:59 2005 Subject: [Kc] Reseach on Open Source Developers Message-ID: Hi, I'm Amedeo Guffanti, a 22 years old Italian student at Bocconi university in Milan, I' m doing a research to write a work about Open Source Movement, in particular, about the developers. I try to collect the opinions of developers like you. My little poll is at this page : http://www.alberocavo.com/OSSprojects.asp It takes less then 4 minutes. I hope the Open Source Communities will give me a help for my research. I apologize for taking your time and for my English that I hope it's understandable ^^ Sincerly, Amedeo Guffanti From davidnicol at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 08:22:18 2005 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Thu Mar 24 08:22:28 2005 Subject: [Kc] square brackets as parameter holders? Message-ID: <934f64a20503240822a2825d1@mail.gmail.com> I was trying to pull the current year out of the localtime function and I discovered that square brackets work as parentheses: D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print (localtime)[5]" print (...) interpreted as function at -e line 1. syntax error at -e line 1, near ")[" Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors. D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print ((localtime)[5])" print (...) interpreted as function at -e line 1. 105 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print((localtime)[5])" 105 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print localtime[5]" 5257172287022641 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print (localtime[5])" print (...) interpreted as function at -e line 1. 5257172287022641 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print localtime" 315102421054820 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print (localtime[5])" print (...) interpreted as function at -e line 1. 5257172287022641 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print(localtime)" 1015102421054820 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print(~~localtime(5))" Wed Dec 31 18:00:05 1969 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "print(~~localtime[5])" Tue Sep 22 17:57:52 1970 anyone have an explanation? is this specific to localtime or can anything get invoked with args in [] instead of ()? D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "sub onearg{shift() + 7};print(~~onearg[5])" 22892279 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "sub onearg{shift() + 7};print(~~onearg(5))" 12 D:\FCBC_S~1\POPclient>perl -wle "sub onearg{shift() + 7};print(~~onearg([5]))" 22892279 what is going on? am I passing an array reference, which is getting interpreted as a number? -- David L Nicol "You don't know how to maintain a station wagon either!" From davidnicol at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 09:44:30 2005 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Thu Mar 24 09:44:40 2005 Subject: [Kc] Permission denied on unlink Message-ID: <934f64a205032409442397c460@mail.gmail.com> The following is a FAQ, right? Does anyone know the answer to the question posed at http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/perl-win32-admin/213580 I too am having trouble unlinking files, in directories that were created tge same way, and $! is set to Permission denied when I do a ls -l in cygwin on the files in question, they are shown as Administrators, Domain, Users, rwxrwxrwx. I am running the program with ActiveState perl however, from a cmd shell, using cygwin environment for editing. Is there an alternative to system("del $filename") I want to stay portable. I can unlink the files from a command line, just not from unlink. Is the directory separator the culprit? The filenames are formed "$path/$name" do I need to switch to a backslash, or to :: ? -- David L Nicol "You don't know how to maintain a station wagon either!" From ironicface at earthlink.net Thu Mar 24 10:49:52 2005 From: ironicface at earthlink.net (Teal) Date: Thu Mar 24 10:55:26 2005 Subject: [Kc] Permission denied on unlink In-Reply-To: <934f64a205032409442397c460@mail.gmail.com> References: <934f64a205032409442397c460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <42430BD0.4010801@earthlink.net> David Nicol wrote: > > Is the directory separator the culprit? The filenames are formed > > "$path/$name" do I need to switch to a backslash, or to :: ? > Not dealing with any other issue ... do try \\ instead of / I have had problems under windows with similar issues. And of course, beware of spaces in win path names. If the space occurs higher in the file system, you may have not noticed it. The other thing I remember is that path may be determined from the perl executable, not from your script? Use absolute paths. I realise that is not portable. Maybe set up a configuration file, and give instructions, and commented out settings for a unix style setup. Teal -- Five minutes of Silence, Meditate. Breathe. Be Alive. From davidnicol at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 11:27:28 2005 From: davidnicol at gmail.com (David Nicol) Date: Thu Mar 24 11:27:38 2005 Subject: [Kc] Permission denied on unlink In-Reply-To: <42430BD0.4010801@earthlink.net> References: <934f64a205032409442397c460@mail.gmail.com> <42430BD0.4010801@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <934f64a20503241127a9526e8@mail.gmail.com> Ken Cornetet correctly advised me that I may have been trying to delete a file that had an open handle on it.