From ayamamot at ss5.inet-osaka.or.jp Tue Aug 1 05:07:49 2000 From: ayamamot at ss5.inet-osaka.or.jp (Akinobu Yamamoto) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UGVybC9SdWJ5IENvbmZlcmVuY2UgGyRCMys6RTdoRGobKEIgIQ==?= Message-ID: <031501bffba0$64c47900$674aadd2@ns1.omp.ne.jp> ??????????????????? ????????????????????Linux????Linux Conference 2000 Fall ???? Perl/Ruby Conference?????????????????? ??Linux???????????????????????????? ??????????/ayamamot@mbox2.inet-osaka.or.jp? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:59 PM Subject: [JLA-members:00099] Perl/Ruby Conference ???? ! > PRESS-RELEASE 2000?8?1? > > > > ????? > > > > ??Linux?? > > ?????????????? > > > > > > Perl/Ruby Conference ????! > > > > > > ??Linux??(???????/??:????)????????????? > > ??(??????/??:????)??2000?11?????????? Linux > > Conference 2000 Fall ???? Perl/Ruby Conference ????????? > > ??????????????Linux??????? Linux Conference ?? > > Linux ???????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????????? > > ??????Perl ? Ruby ?????????????????????? > > ???? Perl ???????? Web ?????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????????? > > ?????? Ruby ?????????????????????????? > > ?? > > Perl/Ruby Conference 2000(http://perlruby-con.opensource.gr.jp/) ? > > ??????????????????????????????Linux?? > > ? Linux Conference ????????????????????????? > > ????????? Perl ??? Ruby ????????????????? > > ????????????????????????????? (????? > > ??????????????????), ??????????????? > > ??????????????????? > > ???????????????????? > > > > > > ?????? > > > > * ? ? ?Perl/Ruby Conference > > * ? ? ?2000?11?29?(?)-12?1?(?)(3??) > > * ? ? ????????? (?????????) > > * ? ? ??????????????? > > * ???????Linux?? > > * ? ? ?Perl, Ruby, ???????????? (??) > > * URL ?http://perlruby-con.opensource.gr.jp/ > > > > > > ?????? > > ???Linux Conference 2000 Fall > > ???2000?11?29?(?)-12?1?(?)(3??) > > ??????????? (?????????) > > ?????Linux?? > > ???????????????????? > > ???Linux, ???????????? > > URL ?http://lc.linux.or.jp/ > > > > > > ??????????????? > > > > ?101-0021 ??????????2-15-2 ?????7F > > ??Linux?? Perl/Ruby Conference ????? > > Linux Conference 2000 ????? > > ??: ?? (lc-info@linux.or.jp) > > TEL: 03-5298-4670 FAX?03-5298-4671 > > > > From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Tue Aug 1 11:48:06 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:22:42 +0900" <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> References: <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> Message-ID: <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ?????????? From: "IWAI, Masaharu" > ????? > > 8??????????? ????????????????????????????(^^; ????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? 9????????????????? > ????????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????? > ??????? ?????????????????????????Perl?? ?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? ???????Perl????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ????????????????Word ?Excel ????? HTML??????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? Word, Excel ????????????????????? ???????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Tue Aug 1 12:02:27 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:00:16 +0900 (JST)" <20000731010016W.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000731010016W.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000802020227C.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ??????????????? From: mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp > ???????? > > > ????????????????????????? > > ???Perl????????????(^ ^)/ > ?????????????? > ?????????????????? > ?????????????????? > ??????????? > ????????????????????? > > ????????????? > ????????????????????????? MyDate.pm ? > ?????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????? > > ????????????????? > ??Perl????????????(perlmodlib)??????? > ?????????????????????????? > ??????????? > > ????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????(^^ ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ??????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ?????????????global ????????? ???????????????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp Tue Aug 1 22:08:56 2000 From: hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp (HAYASHI Daihachi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> ??????????????? On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:48:06 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ?????????? > > From: "IWAI, Masaharu" > > > ????? > > > > 8??????????? > > ????????????????????????????(^^; > ????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > 9????????????????? > > > ????????????????????????? > > ???????????????????????????? > > ??????? > > ?????????????????????????Perl?? > ?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? > ???????Perl????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ???????????????? ??? -- ??? -- ???? ???????????????? ????? ???????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? HAYASHI > > ?????????????????????????? > ????????????????Word ?Excel ????? > HTML??????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????? > Word, Excel ????????????????????? > ???????????????? > --- > Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) > From kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp Thu Aug 3 11:49:35 2000 From: kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp (Kiyoka Nishiyama) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> References: <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> Message-ID: <20000804014935C.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> kiyoka??? ???????????????? From: HAYASHI Daihachi Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:08:56 +0900 (snip) > > > > > > > ?????????????????????????Perl?? > > ?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? > > ???????Perl????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????? > ???????????????? ???????? ??????????????????? ??????????Perl??????????????????? > ??? -- ??? -- ???? ???????????????? > ????? ???????????????? > > ?????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????? ????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????? ????? +--- Kiyoka Nishiyama http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~kiyoka/ From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 3 14:11:06 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:05:27 +0900" References: Message-ID: <200008031911.EAA06770@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:05:27 +0900 Takeshi MUTOH wrote: >8????????????????????????????????(_O_) ????? >9??????????????????????????? ?????????? :-) ?????????????????????????????????? ????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 3 14:21:23 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl/Ruby Conference =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMys6RTdoRGobKEI=?= ! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:07:49 +0900" <031501bffba0$64c47900$674aadd2@ns1.omp.ne.jp> References: <031501bffba0$64c47900$674aadd2@ns1.omp.ne.jp> Message-ID: <200008031921.EAA11177@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: [kansaipm] Perl/Ruby Conference ???? ! Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:07:49 +0900 "Akinobu Yamamoto" wrote: >??????????????????? ???????? >????????????????????Linux????Linux Conference 2000 >Fall ???? >Perl/Ruby Conference?????????????????? LC200 Fall??????????? ???????????????????????????? ????? :-) Perl/Ruby Conference??????????????????? ??????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 3 14:40:41 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:48:06 +0900" <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <200008031940.EAA19260@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:48:06 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: >????????????????????????????(^^; >????????????????????????? >?????????????????????????????? >9????????????????? ?????????????? # ?????????????(^^;?? ?????????????????????????? # ??????? >?????????????????????????Perl?? >?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? >???????Perl????????????????????? ??????? ????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? # ?????... ?????????????????(?)????????? ?????????(^^; >?????????????????????????? >????????????????Word ?Excel ????? >HTML??????????????????????? >??????????????????????????? >Word, Excel ????????????????????? >???????????????? ?????? ???????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ?????????????? :-) ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 3 14:49:01 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:08:56 +0900" <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> References: <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> Message-ID: <200008031949.EAA22847@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:08:56 +0900 HAYASHI Daihachi wrote: >> ?????????????????????????Perl?? >> ?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? >> ???????Perl????????????????????? > >??????????????????????????????? >???????????????? ????? ????????????????????????????????? ??????????????? >??? -- ??? -- ???? ???????????????? >????? ???????????????? ????????????????(^^; >?????????????????????????????? >??? ???3?????????? ???1????????????????? >??????????????????????? ??????????? # 20???????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Thu Aug 3 23:22:52 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 04:11:06 +0900" <200008031911.EAA06770@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008031911.EAA06770@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: ??@??????? At Fri, 04 Aug 2000 04:11:06 +0900, IWAI, Masaharu wrote: > ?????????????????????????????????? > ????????????????? ????????????????????40?????????100???? ????? ???????????? -- ??????????.?????????? mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp ?????????????????? ???????#24 ??????????????????? From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Fri Aug 4 00:15:07 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000731010016W.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> <20000731010016W.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <398A515B30A.C044FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ???????????? (^^ ???????????????????????? ?????????????????? ??????????? (^^; On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:00:16 +0900 (JST) mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > ???????? > > > ????? > > > > 8??????????? > > ????????? ??????????????????????? ????????????????? (^^; > > ????????????????????????? > > ???Perl????????????(^ ^)/ ???????????? (^^ > ?????????????????(^ ^) ??? ??????? ???????VB???????????? ??????????????? (^^;; ?????????????????????? ?????????????? =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Fri Aug 4 01:03:26 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <398A5CAE327.C045FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? ???????? On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 01:48:06 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ?????????? > > > 8??????????? > > ????????????????????????????(^^; > ????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > 9????????????????? ?????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ?????????????? > ?????????????????????????Perl?? > ?????????? ??????????? (^^ ?????????????Perl?????????? ????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? ?????????????????????? (^^ > ?????????????????????????? > ????????????????Word ?Excel ????? > HTML??????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????? ?????????word,excel?html??????? ????????????????????? (^^; ???????????????????????? ?????????? ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ???????????????? (^^; ??????????????????????????? Perl??????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ?????????????????? (^^; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Fri Aug 4 01:08:51 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> References: <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> Message-ID: <398A5DF3266.C046FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:08:56 +0900 HAYASHI Daihachi wrote: > ??????????????? ??????????????? ???????????????????? ?????? (^^; > ??????????????????????????????? > ???????????????? ?????? ????????????????????????? ??????????? (^^ > ??????????????????????? ?????????? ?????????????????? (^^;; ???????????????????? (^^ =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From kankun at osa.att.ne.jp Fri Aug 4 01:41:04 2000 From: kankun at osa.att.ne.jp (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:03:26 JST." <398A5CAE327.C045FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <200007300822.RAA22618@cc.mbn.or.jp> <20000802014806N.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <398A5CAE327.C045FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000804064104.23315.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> 森若っす。 > 舟木です。 ... > > 前回の猫集会で出た話題ですが，中学・高校生のためのPerl講座 > > なんてどうでしょう？ > > そんな話もありましたね (^^ 中高生ですか〜。 # パイプ無いなぁ。近所の中学の教頭先生と顔見知りな程度。 たしか、中学の数学の中に BASIC が導入されたような気が。 # 個人的には中学生の頃はBASICでしょーもない # ゲーム書きまくってました。ああ、なつかし。 > とは言え、プログラミングってのもどうなんでしょうね？ > 若いときはゲームで遊びまくった方が良いと個人的には > 思ってるんですが、どうでしょう？ (^^; 中高生が、ふにゃきさんみたいに、ゲームで無闇と一般市民を 惨殺しながら喜ぶのは見たくないなー。あと街中強盗しながら暴走したり… > とはいえ、プログラミングのセンスを身に着けさせるのには > Perlはかなり向いているかもしれないですね。 む、むいてないと思う(汗;; ちょっと書いて動くたのしさを味わうにはいいかもしれんけど。 # ああ、でもPerlで書いたプログラムを公開して # ビシビシ叩いてもらうのは、センスを身につけるのにいいかも。 > とか書きながらよく考えてみると、若いうちに教えるのは > どんな言語が良いんでしょうね？むむ… (^^; 個人的なおすすめ順で言うと、 Python,Ruby,Java,JPython,(POSIX準拠なOSで動くANSIな)C,perl あたりではないでしょーか。 # CとPerlはいくらでもダメな書き方できるからなー(汗;; \ / . .\ / | / /\ |\ || / | ||\ | Kazuo Moriwaka =| |= |/\ |~~|| \||/\ | || \| Nara Institute of Science and Technology / \ / \ | \| || || \|__|| | e-mail: kankun@osa.att.ne.jp # HTMLとXMLとXULとSQLとDTMLだけ喋れればあと5年くらい食っていけそーな気がする From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Fri Aug 4 08:59:44 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiA=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000804064104.23315.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <398A5CAE327.C045FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <20000804064104.23315.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <398ACC50A9.C048FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:41:04 +0900 kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote: > ????? ????????? > > ????? > ... > > > ?????????????????????????Perl?? > > > ?????????? ... > > ?????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > > ???????????????? (^^; > > ???????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????????? ?????????????? ???? ??? ? ????? ???????????????????????????????? ???Quake???????? ???????(?) Age of Empire??Civilization??Railroad Tycoon?? ????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? (?????????) (^^;; ??????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ?????????or?????????????? ????????????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????? > > ?????????????????? (^^; > > ?????????????? > Python,Ruby,Java,JPython,(POSIX???OS???ANSI?)C,perl > ????????????? ?????Perl????????????????????? ???????????????Python????????? (^^ ????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??????????? (^^; ????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? (^^ Perl???????????Perl?????????????? ????????????????????????? ? ???????????????????????? (^^;; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Fri Aug 4 14:29:38 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl6 Message-ID: <200008041929.EAA05133@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? ???????Perl????????????????? http://www.zdnet.co.jp/news/0008/01/perl.html ?????????????????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Fri Aug 4 14:29:31 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:22:52 +0900" References: Message-ID: <200008041929.EAA05099@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:22:52 +0900 mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: >> ?????????????????????????????????? >> ????????????????? > >????????????????????40?????????100???? >????? ???????? ???????????????????????? >???????????? ???????????????????? :-) ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Fri Aug 4 14:55:33 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:59:44 +0900" <398ACC50A9.C048FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <398ACC50A9.C048FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008041955.EAA15264@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8????? ? Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:59:44 +0900 Takayasu Funaki wrote: >> ???????????????????????????? >> ?????????????????????????????????? > >?????????????? ???? ??? ? ????? ????(?)? >?????????or?????????????? >????????????????????????? Web??????????????????????????????? BBS????????????????????????????? >????????????????????????????? >??????????????????????? (^^ > >Perl???????????Perl?????????????? >????????????????????????? > >? ???????????????????????? (^^;; ???????????????? ???Kansai.pm????????????????? ??????????(^^; ??????????????????????? ????Kansai.pm????????Perl???????? ????????????? K*BUG?Kansai *BSD Users Group??? LILO?Linux Install Learning Osaka???? ?????????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ???Kansai.pm????????Perl????????(^^; # ????LILO?????????????????????(^^; ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From kankun at osa.att.ne.jp Sat Aug 5 06:37:57 2000 From: kankun at osa.att.ne.jp (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:55:33 JST." <200008041955.EAA15264@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <398ACC50A9.C048FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <200008041955.EAA15264@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000805113757.26467.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> 森若＠研究室 っす。 > 岩井っす。 ... > >そもそも何をテーマorターゲットとして教えていくと > >良いのでしょうね？もちろん彼らの興味を引くもので。 > > Webサイトを作っているとか興味があるとかいう人を対象とするならば、 > BBSとかチャットとかの作成ってのは興味を引くかも知れませんね。 そうですね〜。 しかし、CGIって、ちょっと考えて思いつくような物は 大抵世の中にあるという…。それはいいとしても、作る時には、 何がやりたいかより先にセキュリティの勉強をせんならん、 というのがちょっと重いかもしれません(^^; # 「とにかく動けばいいやん」というのは、 # 適当に試作したモーターで走る車をいきなり公道にもっていっても # 「とりあえず走るんやしええやん」というのと同じくらいダメな感じ :-P ## いや、車検通せとかじゃなくて〜(笑) > >ふと思ったんですが、一回「森若氏が語る各言語の利点、欠点」 > >ってのを講演で聞いてみたいっす。純粋に好奇心で (^^ うが。利点、欠点ってゆーか。 この人は…(汗; 目的->(どれかの言語の)library or 組み込み機能 & 納期等->(せっせと)作成 という感じなので、言語間に単純な良い悪いってのは無くて、 目的を達成するのにどれくらい楽か、というのがあるだけっす。 ---(ひとりごともーど)--- いつぞやRuby信者に、Pythonの正規表現は言語組み込みじゃないと言ったら そりゃ駄目だ的に言われたけど、じゃあ全機能組み込みなBASICがいーのか？ とか思ったりしたことがありまふ(苦笑) PythonもRubyも、コンパイル済み正規表現に名前をつけて変数として 扱えるという点で、Perlより機能は上だったりするわけですな。 # Perlでも正規表現中に変数を埋め込んで機能的には同等のことができますけどね… # さらに、クロージャ使って/$pattern/oって技もあるけど…(汗; そこだけ見れば、正規表現を配列に入れて とっかえひっかえ使えると便利、というような応用だったら、 PerlよりPythonやRubyの方が向いてたりするかも〜。 と、こんな感じの思考を、なんか作業する時にはします。 ---(ひとりごともーど おしまい)--- 先の初心者向け言語、の順番については、 難解なプログラムを書きにくいようになってるものを 上位に持ってきただけなので、見方が違えば順位も変わるでせう。 \ / . .\ / | / /\ |\ || / | ||\ | Kazuo Moriwaka =| |= |/\ |~~|| \||/\ | || \| Nara Institute of Science and Technology / \ / \ | \| || || \|__|| | e-mail: kankun@osa.att.ne.jp _=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~ # 書きにくいっていうても、そこはそれ、toolの限界といいますか、 # 想像をはるかに越えた謎なsourceを書く人間は、 # 常にいたりするんですが…(ぉぃ From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sun Aug 6 08:14:58 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 05 Aug 2000 04:55:33 +0900" <200008041955.EAA15264@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008041955.EAA15264@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000806221458G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ?????????? From: "IWAI, Masaharu" > ????? > > >?????????or?????????????? > >????????????????????????? > > Web??????????????????????????????? > BBS????????????????????????????? ??????i-mode ??BBS ???????????? ????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ??????????????? > >????????????????????????????? > >??????????????????????? (^^ > > > >Perl???????????Perl?????????????? > >????????????????????????? > > > >? ???????????????????????? (^^;; > > ???????????????? > ???Kansai.pm????????????????? > ??????????(^^; ????Perl ?????????????????????? ????(^^; ?????????????????????????? > K*BUG?Kansai *BSD Users Group??? > LILO?Linux Install Learning Osaka???? > ?????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????? ???????????K*BUG, LILO ??????????? ????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? > ???Kansai.pm????????Perl????????(^^; > # ????LILO?????????????????????(^^; ???Kansai.pm????????Perl ???????(^^; --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sun Aug 6 08:25:07 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:08:56 +0900" <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> References: <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> Message-ID: <20000806222507G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ????????????????? From: HAYASHI Daihachi > ??????????????? > > > ?????????????????????????Perl?? > > ?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? > > ???????Perl????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????? > ???????????????? ????????????????????????????? ???????(^^ > ??? -- ??? -- ???? ???????????????? > ????? ???????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? > ??????????????????????? ?????20???????????????????? ????????Kansai.pm??????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sun Aug 6 08:26:08 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= Message-ID: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ?????????????? From: Takayasu Funaki > ????? > > ?????????????Perl?????????? > ????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????? > ?????????????????????? (^^ ?????????????????? http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-PaloAlto/2514/ # ??????????MindStorm ??????? > ?????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????? > ???????????????? (^^; ?????????????????(^^ ??????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? (????)??????????????????????? ??????????????(^^; # ??????????????????? ???????????????????????? ????????????????????? ???????????????? > ?????????????????????????? > ?????????????????? (^^; ??????????????????????(^^ --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Sun Aug 6 08:30:27 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:26:08 +0900" <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: ??@???? At Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:26:08 +0900, Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > > ?????????????Perl?????????? > > ????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????? > > ?????????????????????? (^^ > ?????????????????? > http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-PaloAlto/2514/ > # ??????????MindStorm ??????? ????2??????? # ?????????? > > ?????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > > ???????????????? (^^; > ?????????????????(^^ > ??????????????????? ?????????????WonderWitch???????? # ??WonderSwan????(;-;) -- ?? ??????? From mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp Sun Aug 6 11:26:06 2000 From: mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp (mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000806222507G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200008020314.MAA29131@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> <20000806222507G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000807012606H.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ????? ???????????????? From: Tomohiro FUKUHARA Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:25:07 +0900 > ????????????????? > > From: HAYASHI Daihachi > > > ??????????????? > > > > > ?????????????????????????Perl?? > > > ?????????? chat ????BBS ??CGI?????? > > > ???????Perl????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > ???????????????? > > ????????????????????????????? > ???????(^^ ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ???? ???????????????????????????? CGI ????????? Mebius ????????? RedHat6.2J ? Apache-1.3.12 ? Perl5.005_03 ?????????? ???????????? > > ??????????????????????? > > ?????20???????????????????? > ????????Kansai.pm??????????????????? ????????????????? ????????????????????? ?????????????? ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp Sun Aug 6 11:29:50 2000 From: mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp (mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000807012950I.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ????? From: Tomohiro FUKUHARA Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:26:08 +0900 > > ?????????????????????????? > > ?????????????????? (^^; > > ??????????????????????(^^ ??????????????????????? ??????????????????? Perl ?????? ?????????????????????????Tcl/Tk ... ???????(^^;)?Visual Basic ????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????????????Python ???? (??????????? :-P) ?????????????http://www.perl.com/ ???Perl ?????? ??????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? From mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp Sun Aug 6 11:49:54 2000 From: mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp (mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= Message-ID: <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ????? ???????????? ??????????? $15.00 ?????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ????????????? http://www.pm.org/clothing.shtml#tshirt From okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp Sun Aug 6 18:04:58 2000 From: okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp (OKABE, Keiichi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UmU6IFtrYW5zYWlwbV0gOBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <003901bffffa$c1d87ac0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> ?????????Tokyo.pm??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomohiro FUKUHARA" To: Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? > > ?????????????Perl?????????? > > ????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????? > http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-PaloAlto/2514/ > # ??????????MindStorm ??????? ?????????????(^^;????????COM??? LEGO??????????CPAN????????????? http://www.members.home.net/quillan/lego/rcx.pm.html ???????????????? http://hamjudo.com/rcx/ ???*inx??????????????????Win32?? ??????????? Tokyo.pm???????Mindstorms???????????? ???????????????? ??????????? http://www.aikis.or.jp./~mitsuru/boy/tebata.htm --- use Tk;$c=tkinit->Canvas(-height=>50,-width=>100)->pack;$a="15115155,223342, 2343,3335,24254544,6163,5292918185,53939484,7273,6465757464";$a=~s/\s//g; map{s/(\d)/sprintf("%s,",$1*10)/eg;$c->createLine(split /,/,$_)}(split /,/,$a); MainLoop; #okabek@beige.ocn.ne.jp From maeda at src.ricoh.co.jp Sun Aug 6 23:04:50 2000 From: maeda at src.ricoh.co.jp (maeda@src.ricoh.co.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 月のイベン ト In-Reply-To: <20000805113757.26467.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Message-ID: <200008070404.NAA00885@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> 前田@Tokyo.pmです。 # tokyo.pmのアドレスから出したらrejectされたっぽいので、 # リコーのアドレスから出し直します。二度読んだらごめんなさい。 森若さん> PythonもRubyも、コンパイル済み正規表現に名前をつけて変数として 森若さん> 扱えるという点で、Perlより機能は上だったりするわけですな。 qr//でRegexpにblessされたオブジェクト作られますよ。 # ん〜、Repexpパッケージにはメソッドはないみたいだ 福原さん> 正面からPerl の問題点を議論すると，仲間割れしてるみたいで そんなことないです。Tom Christiansenがよくやってます。 Kansai.pm向きネタでなければ、ぜひRuby/Perlカンファレンスで。 ------------------------------- Vulture LRM20 .□||□. LRM20 前田 薫 maeda@src.ricoh.co.jp 75t 175km/h Md+ o'□||□`o Md+ (株)リコー ソフトウェア研究所 HeatSink 18 LG Sm+ .=X~~X=. Sm+ LG ------------------------------- Armor 2195 _|_ _|_ From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Sun Aug 6 23:41:11 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVkbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJXMbKEIgGyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000805113757.26467.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <200008041955.EAA15264@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000805113757.26467.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <398E3DE7375.8616FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:37:57 +0900 kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote: > ?????? ??? > > >????????????????????????????? > > >??????????????????????? (^^ > > ?????????????? ?????(?; ?????????????????? (^^; > ???????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????? ????????? > ??????????????????? > ???????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? (^^ =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Mon Aug 7 00:03:35 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <398E432710B.8617FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:26:08 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ?????????????? ?????????????? ??????????????????reply?? ???????????????????? ? ?????????????????????? ? ?????? > ?????????????????? > http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-PaloAlto/2514/ ?????????????? > # ??????????MindStorm ??????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????? > ??????????????????????????????? ... > ???????????????????????? > ????????????????????? > ???????????????? ?????????? ???????Download?????????? ?CGI?????????????????? ???????????????? (^^; > > ?????????????????????????? > > ?????????????????? (^^; > > ??????????????????????(^^ ???????????? ?????????????? ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? (^^; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp Wed Aug 9 09:24:02 2000 From: mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp (mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwhShsoQltrYW5zYWlwbV0=?= Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSCFLGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000807012950I.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000807012950I.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000809232402K.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ?????????????????? From: mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:29:50 +0900 (JST) > ?????????????http://www.perl.com/ ???Perl ?????? > ??????????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????????? ??????????? http://www.perl.com/pub/1999/11/cozens.htm ??????? Cozens ????Tokyo.pm ???????????????? From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Thu Aug 10 03:57:35 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <39926E7F2CE.74C7FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:30:27 +0900 Takeshi MUTOH wrote: > ??@???? ?????? > > > ?????????????Perl?????????? > > > ????????????????????????????? ... > > # ??????????MindStorm ??????? > > ????2??????? > # ?????????? ????????????? ???????Perl????????? ???????????????? (^^ > ?????????????WonderWitch???????? > # ??WonderSwan????(;-;) ????????????? (^^; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Thu Aug 10 04:06:46 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000807012606H.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000806222507G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000807012606H.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <399270A61B8.74C8FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:26:06 +0900 (JST) mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > ????? ????? > ???????????????? ... > ??????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????????? > ???? ???????????????????????? ?????????? (^^ ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Thu Aug 10 04:20:56 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000807012950I.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000807012950I.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <399273F8124.74C9FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:29:50 +0900 (JST) mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > ????? ???? (^^ > > > ?????????????????????????? > > > ?????????????????? (^^; ... > ?????????????????????????Tcl/Tk ... > ???????(^^;)?Visual Basic ????????????? ????????Visual Studio??????????????? # Visual Perl... (^^; > ??????????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????????????? > ???????????????Python ???? Python???????????????????? ???????????????Python??????? (^^ ?????????????????Perl? ????????????????? ? ??????????????? (^^;; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Thu Aug 10 04:24:38 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl Mongers =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <399274D61FF.74CAFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:49:54 +0900 (JST) mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > ????? > > ???????????? ????? (^^ > ??????????? $15.00 ?????????????? > ???????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????? > ????????????? ??????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? (^^ ????????????? ????? (^^;; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Thu Aug 10 04:32:23 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <003901bffffa$c1d87ac0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <003901bffffa$c1d87ac0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> Message-ID: <399276A7A0.74CBFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:04:58 +0900 "OKABE, Keiichi" wrote: > ?????????Tokyo.pm??? ????? (^^ > ?????????????(^^;????????COM??? > LEGO??????????CPAN????????????? > > http://www.members.home.net/quillan/lego/rcx.pm.html > ???????????????? URL??????????? > Tokyo.pm???????Mindstorms???????????? > ???????????????? > > ??????????? > http://www.aikis.or.jp./~mitsuru/boy/tebata.htm ?????????????? ?????????????????? (^^; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Thu Aug 10 08:17:54 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:06:46 +0900" <399270A61B8.74C8FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <399270A61B8.74C8FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000810221754E.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ??????????? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:06:46 +0900 > ????? > > mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > > ????? > ... > > ??????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????? > > ???? > > ???????????????????????? > ?????????? (^^ ??????????????(^^ ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Thu Aug 10 08:39:08 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Aug 2000 23:24:02 +0900 (JST)" <20000809232402K.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000809232402K.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ???????????????????? From: mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp > ?????????????????? ??????????(^^ > ??????? Cozens ????Tokyo.pm ???????????????? Cozens ??????????????Ten Perl Myths ? Kansai.pm ??????????????????? http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/01/10PerlMyths.html Cozens ??????Beggining Perl ??????????(^^ http://www.wrox.com/Consumer/Store/Details.asp?ISBN=1861003145 ????O'Reilly ????Perl ??????????????? * CGI Programming with Perl, 2nd Edition http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/cgi2/ * Perl for System Administration http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlsysadm/ * Programming Perl, 3rd Edition http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pperl3/ ????????Programming Perl, 3rd Edition ??????? ????????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Thu Aug 10 09:13:43 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:36 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Aug 2000 14:03:35 +0900" <398E432710B.8617FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <398E432710B.8617FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000810231343T.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ????? From: Takayasu Funaki > ????? > > ??????????????????reply?? > ???????????????????? '95??'96??????????????? ?????????????????????????????(^^ > ?????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????? (^^; ????????????????PL/I ????????? ???(???????)?????????????(^^; ????????????????????????? ??????????????????PL/I ???????? ??????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????????????????PL/I ????(??) ??????????(^^; ??????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ??????????? ???Perl??????????????????(?????? ????????????)?????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????(^^; ???Perl ???????????????? ?????????????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp Thu Aug 10 09:17:57 2000 From: kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp (Kiyoka Nishiyama) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000810221754E.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <399270A61B8.74C8FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <20000810221754E.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000810071757N.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> kiyoka????????????? From: Tomohiro FUKUHARA Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:17:54 +0900 > > ????? > > > > mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > > > ????? > > ... > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > > ??????????????????????????????? > > > ???? > > > > ???????????????????????? > > ?????????? (^^ > > ??????????????(^^ > ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? kiyoka ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????????????... ?????????????? ????????????? +--- Kiyoka Nishiyama http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~kiyoka/ From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Thu Aug 10 09:18:34 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:49:54 +0900 (JST)" <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000810231834U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ???????????????? ???????????????????? From: mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp > ????? > > ???????????? > > ??????????? $15.00 ?????????????? > ???????????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????? > ????????????? > http://www.pm.org/clothing.shtml#tshirt ??????????????????(^^ ??????????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp Thu Aug 10 10:10:35 2000 From: kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp (Kiyoka Nishiyama) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000810231834U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> <20000810231834U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000810081035W.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> kiyoka??? ??????????? From: Tomohiro FUKUHARA Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Perl Mongers ???? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:18:34 +0900 > > ???????????????? > ???????????????????? > > From: mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp > > > ????? > > > > ???????????? > > > > ??????????? $15.00 ?????????????? > > ???????????????????????? > > > > ??????????????????????????? > > ????????????? > > http://www.pm.org/clothing.shtml#tshirt > > ??????????????????(^^ > ??????????????????????? ??????????????? ????????????? ??????????? +--- Kiyoka Nishiyama http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~kiyoka/ From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Thu Aug 10 10:10:24 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:57:35 +0900" <39926E7F2CE.74C7FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <39926E7F2CE.74C7FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: ??@?????? At Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:57:35 +0900, Takayasu Funaki wrote: > > > > ?????????????Perl?????????? > > > > ????????????????????????????? > ... > > > # ??????????MindStorm ??????? > > ????2??????? > > # ?????????? > ????????????? > ???????Perl????????? > ???????????????? (^^ ???????????????????????????????????? ??(^-^;) # http://sentinel.info.nara-k.ac.jp/MutohLabo/workJ.html ????? > > ?????????????WonderWitch???????? > > # ??WonderSwan????(;-;) > ????????????? (^^; ????????????????;p -- ?? ??????? From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 10 15:05:18 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:37:57 +0900" <20000805113757.26467.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <20000805113757.26467.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <200008102005.FAA24484@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8 ????? ? Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:37:57 +0900 kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote: >> Web??????????????????????????????? >> BBS????????????????????????????? > >??????? >????CGI??????????????????? >????????????????????????????? >??????????????????????????? >??????????????????(^^; ?????????????????????????????????? ?????????WWW???????????????(^^; ># ??????????????????? ># ?????????????????????????????? ># ??????????????????????????????? :-P ????????????????? >> >????????????????????????????? >> >??????????????????????? (^^ > >?????????????? ?????(?; >??->(???????)library or ?????? & ???->(????)?? >???????????????????????????? >????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 10 15:19:26 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:14:58 +0900" <20000806221458G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000806221458G.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <200008102019.FAA28358@mail.geocities.co.jp> ???LILO??? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8 ????? ? Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 22:14:58 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: >??????i-mode ??BBS ???????????? >????????????????????????? >??????????????????????????????? >??????????????????????????? >??????????????? ???????????????????????? ????????????????????????????(^^; ??????????????????????????(^^; >????Perl ?????????????????????? >????(^^; ?????????????????????????? Ruby?(^^; ??????????????Linux Conference 2000 Fall??? ????Perl/Ruby Conference???????????? >> K*BUG?Kansai *BSD Users Group??? >> LILO?Linux Install Learning Osaka???? >> ?????????????????????????? >> ?????????????????????? > >???????????K*BUG, LILO ??????????? >????????????????????????????????? >??????????????????? ???????@LILO????????? ??????????????????????????? :-) # ????????????K*BUG?LILO????????????? >> ???Kansai.pm????????Perl????????(^^; >> # ????LILO?????????????????????(^^; > >???Kansai.pm????????Perl ???????(^^; ???? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 10 15:29:35 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Programming Perl, 3rd Edition=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUobKEI=?=Re: [ kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwhSxsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:39:08 +0900" <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <200008102029.FAA01346@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:39:08 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: >????????Programming Perl, 3rd Edition ??????? >????????????????????? Amazon.Com??????????? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596000278/o/qid=965938976/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-3021264-3116903 ????????????????????????????? ????????????????(^^; # ?????????????...???????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 10 15:33:21 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:17:57 -0700" <20000810071757N.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> References: <20000810071757N.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: <200008102033.FAA02487@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? ????????????? Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:17:57 -0700 Kiyoka Nishiyama wrote: >> > > ??????????????????????????????? >> > > ??????????????????????????????? >> > > ??????????????????????????????? >> > > ???? >> > >> > ???????????????????????? >> > ?????????? (^^ >> >> ??????????????(^^ >> ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? kiyoka ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 10 15:37:30 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:10:35 -0700" <20000810081035W.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> References: <20000810081035W.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: <200008102037.FAA03852@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers ???? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:10:35 -0700 Kiyoka Nishiyama wrote: >> > ????? >> > >> > ???????????? >> > >> > ??????????? $15.00 ?????????????? >> > ???????????????????????? >> > >> > ??????????????????????????? >> > ????????????? >> > http://www.pm.org/clothing.shtml#tshirt >> >> ??????????????????(^^ >> ??????????????????????? > >??????????????? >????????????? 1/4?? :-) ?????????? ????????????? [T???] ?? ?? kiyoka ?? [????] ?? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp Thu Aug 10 17:55:25 2000 From: okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp (OKABE, Keiichi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Programming Perl, 3rd Edition References: <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <200008102029.FAA01346@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <004e01c0031e$b3add4f0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "IWAI, Masaharu" To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: [kansaipm] Programming Perl, 3rd Edition?Re: [kansaipm] ??????????? > Amazon.Com??????????? > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596000278/o/qid=965938976/sr=8-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/102-3021264-3116903 ???????????????????????? e.g. 'http://www.skysoft.co.jp/' <= ????????????????? ????????????????????? 'http://www.skysoft.co.jp/GetTitleDetail.asp?UserID=106869&ISBN=1565921496&Source=J3' --- use Tk;$c=tkinit->Canvas(-height=>50,-width=>100)->pack;$a="15115155,223342, 2343,3335,24254544,6163,5292918185,53939484,7273,6465757464";$a=~s/\s//g; map{s/(\d)/sprintf("%s,",$1*10)/eg;$c->createLine(split /,/,$_)}(split /,/,$a); MainLoop; #okabek@beige.ocn.ne.jp From okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp Thu Aug 10 17:58:34 2000 From: okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp (OKABE, Keiichi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UmU6IBskQjxjJCQkJiRBJEs2NSQoJGs4QDhsGyhC?= References: <20000809232402K.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <004f01c0031e$b539a510$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomohiro FUKUHARA" To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:39 PM Subject: Re: [kansaipm]?????????? > > ??????? Cozens ????Tokyo.pm ???????????????? > Cozens ??????Beggining Perl ??????????(^^ ??Cozenz??????????Perlix???????? (^^; http://www.tpj.com/issues/vol5_2/tpj0502-0009.html ftp://othersideofthe.earth.li/pub/perl --- use Tk;$c=tkinit->Canvas(-height=>50,-width=>100)->pack;$a="15115155,223342, 2343,3335,24254544,6163,5292918185,53939484,7273,6465757464";$a=~s/\s//g; map{s/(\d)/sprintf("%s,",$1*10)/eg;$c->createLine(split /,/,$_)}(split /,/,$a); MainLoop; #okabek@beige.ocn.ne.jp From okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp Thu Aug 10 18:04:05 2000 From: okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp (OKABE, Keiichi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UmU6IDgbJEI3biROJSQlWSVzJUgbKEI=?= References: <20000806222608Q.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <003901bffffa$c1d87ac0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> <399276A7A0.74CBFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <005301c0031f$4aeab860$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> ????????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Takayasu Funaki" To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? > > ??????????? > > http://www.aikis.or.jp./~mitsuru/boy/tebata.htm > > ?????????????? > ?????????????????? 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C ?????? ????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ???????????????? ????? new math ??????????????? ????????????????????????? ################################################## ?????????????????????? 01-FACTORY http://factory.01-net.com/ info@01-net.com ################################################## From yuhashimoto at hi-ho.ne.jp Thu Aug 10 19:18:13 2000 From: yuhashimoto at hi-ho.ne.jp (yu hashimoto) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhK?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20000811084346.119165100.1342400564@hi-ho.ne.jp> ???????????????? ???????????? > ????????????????????????????? > ??> ?????????????????????????? > ???> ??????????? ???????? > ???????????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????? > # ????????????????????;p ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????????? > > ???Perl??????????????????(?????? > > ????????????)?????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????????????(^^; ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? ??????????? ????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??????? > ?????????Perl???????????? perl???????????????????????????? ????????????????? 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White logo on a black shirt. ????????????? [T???] [????] ?? 2(M*2) 1 ?? 1(?*1) 1 kiyoka 1(?*1) ?? 1(?*1) From kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp Fri Aug 11 13:20:11 2000 From: kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp (Kiyoka Nishiyama) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000812030447U.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000810081035W.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> <200008102037.FAA03852@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000812030447U.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000812032011I.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> kiyoka??? From: mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers ???? Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:04:47 +0900 (JST) > ????? ??????????????? > (snip) > <<< ????? >>> [T???] [????] ?? 2(M*2) 1 ?? 1(?*1) 1 kiyoka 1(L*1) 0 ?? 1(?*1) ????????( "L" ? ?? ?????????) +--- Kiyoka Nishiyama http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~kiyoka/ From css at geocities.co.jp Fri Aug 11 16:45:55 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:20:11 +0900" <20000812032011I.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> References: <20000812032011I.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: <200008112146.GAA24502@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? ?????????????????????????? <<< ????? >>> [T???] [????] ?? 2(M*2) 1 ?? 1(?*1) 1 kiyoka 1(L*1) 0 ?? 1(M*1) 0 ????????????????????... # ???????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Fri Aug 11 22:07:31 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 12 Aug 2000 06:45:55 +0900" <200008112146.GAA24502@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008112146.GAA24502@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000812120731V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ????????????????? <<< ????? >>> [T???] [????] ?? 2(M*2) 1 ?? 1(M*1) 1 kiyoka 1(L*1) 0 ?? 1(M*1) 0 # ???????????????????(^^ --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Fri Aug 11 22:47:02 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCOkc9aSRLNjUkKCRrOEA4bBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:18:13 +0900" <20000811084346.119165100.1342400564@hi-ho.ne.jp> References: <20000811084346.119165100.1342400564@hi-ho.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000812124702V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ????????????????? From: yu hashimoto > ???????????????? ???????????COBOL2Perl ???????? ?????????COBOL??????????????? Perl ???????????????????Perl? ????????????????COBOL ?Perl ????? ??????????????????? http://search.cpan.org/ ??COBOL ????????? ????????????????????search.cpan.org ? ????????Language Interfaces???????????? ????COBOL ??????????(??????????????) Perl ??????????????CPAN ?????? ???????????????????(^^ ?????????COBOL2Perl ??????????????? ??????????????(^^ > ?????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ???????????? ?????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????? ??????????? > ????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ??????? ????????????????????????????? > > ?????????Perl???????????? > perl???????????????????????????? > ????????????????? 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From: mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp > ??@??????????????????;p > > ??????????UUCP??????1?1????????????? > ????????;) ????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????(^^ > ???????????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????? > # ????????????????????;p ????????????????????????(^^ > ???FreeBSD Inc.?Jordan???K*BUG??????;p?????????? > ????????????????(1?6??)???????? > ???hacker????????????????????????? > ?????? > ?Basic?????????????????? > ???????????????????(^-^;) > ???????????????????????????????????? > ??????(???/??????????)?????????????? > ??????????? ????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????? ???????????????????????? LOGO ????????????(???????????) LEGO MindStorm ??????????????????? ????????????????????????? ????????????C ?????????????(^^; C ??????????????????????????? Perl ?????????(^^; > ???????PC-6001???????????????????Pascal???? > ???????????????????????????(??????;p)? > ???????????????????????????? > > ???????????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? > ????????? > ?1?????????????????C? > ??????????? ???????????????????????????? ???C????(??????????????????(^^;) ???????????????????Perl???????? ??????????? # ??????????????????????????? ???Perl????????????????????? ???????(^^ --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Thu Aug 10 10:24:20 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:10:35 -0700" <20000810081035W.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> References: <20000807014954J.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> <20000810231834U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000810081035W.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: ??@???? At Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:10:35 -0700, Kiyoka Nishiyama wrote: > > > ??????????? $15.00 ?????????????? > > > ???????????????????????? > > > > > > ??????????????????????????? > > > ????????????? > > > http://www.pm.org/clothing.shtml#tshirt > > ??????????????????(^^ > > ??????????????????????? > ??????????????? > ????????????? ??????????? -- ?? ??????? From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sat Aug 12 00:22:42 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:58:13 +0900" <399387E51C1.02EBSANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> References: <399387E51C1.02EBSANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> Message-ID: <20000812142242B.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ?????????????? From: Sanki Nishiguchi > ??????????? > > CGI ???????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????? > ???????????????? ????????????????????????????? ?????(^^; kansai.pm ????????????? Perl???????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sat Aug 12 00:33:35 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:19:26 +0900" <200008102019.FAA28358@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008102019.FAA28358@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000812143335S.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ??????????????? From: "IWAI, Masaharu" > ???LILO??? > > >??????????????????????????? > >??????????????? > > ???????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????(^^; > ??????????????????????????(^^; ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? > >????Perl ?????????????????????? > >????(^^; ?????????????????????????? > > Ruby?(^^; > ??????????????Linux Conference 2000 Fall??? > ????Perl/Ruby Conference???????????? Perl/Ruby Conference ????????????? ??????????????????? > >> K*BUG?Kansai *BSD Users Group??? > >> LILO?Linux Install Learning Osaka???? > >> ?????????????????????????? > >> ?????????????????????? > > > >???????????K*BUG, LILO ??????????? > >????????????????????????????????? > >??????????????????? > > ???????@LILO????????? > ??????????????????????????? :-) > # ????????????K*BUG?LILO????????????? ???????????????????????????? ??????????????Kansai.pm??????? ????????(^^ LILO???Kansai.pm????????????????K*BUG? ??????????????????(?????????? ??????(^^;) --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Sat Aug 12 00:40:02 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiA=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:33:35 +0900" <20000812143335S.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200008102019.FAA28358@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000812143335S.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: ??@?????? ????T????????????????(;-;) At Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:33:35 +0900, Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > LILO???Kansai.pm????????????????K*BUG? > ??????????????????(?????????? > ??????(^^;) ???????????????????????????;p -- ?? ??????? From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sat Aug 12 05:48:52 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:58:34 +0900" <004f01c0031e$b539a510$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> References: <004f01c0031e$b539a510$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000812194852K.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ????? From: "OKABE, Keiichi" > ???? > > ??Cozenz??????????Perlix???????? (^^; > > http://www.tpj.com/issues/vol5_2/tpj0502-0009.html > ftp://othersideofthe.earth.li/pub/perl ??????Cozenz ???????????? ???????????The Perl Filesystem ???????(^^ http://www.assurdo.com/perlfs/ --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From css at geocities.co.jp Sat Aug 12 15:32:58 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCO1I2ISROJD8kYSRON1c7OzUhOEA4bCFKGyhC?=Re: [ kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIIUsbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:15:39 +0900" <20000812141539R.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000812141539R.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <200008122033.FAA03353@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 8?????? Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:15:39 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: >???????????????????????? >LOGO ????????????(???????????) >LEGO MindStorm ??????????????????? ????????????????????????? Alice?????????? http://www.alice.org/ # InterCommunication No.31?Winter 2000? P.054??????? # ???????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? ???Teddy????????????????? http://www.mtl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~takeo/teddy/teddy-j.htm ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Sat Aug 12 15:42:08 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Programming Perl, 3rd Edition In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:55:25 +0900" <004e01c0031e$b3add4f0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> References: <004e01c0031e$b3add4f0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008122042.FAA06255@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Programming Perl, 3rd Edition Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:55:25 +0900 "OKABE, Keiichi" wrote: >'http://www.skysoft.co.jp/' <= ????????????????? >????????????????????? >'http://www.skysoft.co.jp/GetTitleDetail.asp?UserID=106869&ISBN=1565921496&Source=J3' ...???????????? ????????????????(^^; http://www.skysoft.co.jp/GetTitleDetail.asp?UserID=106869&ISBN=0596000278&Source=J3 ???????????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Sun Aug 13 09:39:04 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: References: <20000810231343T.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:39:28 +0900 mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: > ???FreeBSD Inc.?Jordan???K*BUG??????;p?????????? > ????????????????(1?6??)???????? > ???hacker????????????????????????? ?????????? (^^; ?????????????????????????? ???????UNIX??????????? ????????????????????? ? ????????? ?????????????? ? ?? (^^;; > ???????????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????? ????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? ?????????? ??????????????????? (^^; > ????????? > ?1?????????????????C? > ??????????? ???????????? (^^;; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Sun Aug 13 10:01:04 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000812142242B.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <399387E51C1.02EBSANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> <20000812142242B.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <3996B83018F.436AFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:22:42 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ?????????????? ????? (^^ > > ????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > > ???????????????? > > ????????????????????????????? > ?????(^^; ???????????????????????? (^^; ?????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ??????????????? ???????????????????????????? ??????????????????? (^^;; ??????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ?????? (^^; > kansai.pm ????????????? > Perl???????????????????????????? > ???????????????????????? ????Perl??????Perl???? ???kansai.pm?????? ? ???????? (^^;; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Sun Aug 13 11:14:36 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:33:21 +0900" <200008102033.FAA02487@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008102033.FAA02487@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008131614.BAA25252@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:33:21 +0900 "IWAI, Masaharu" wrote: >>> > > ??????????????????????????????? >>> > > ??????????????????????????????? >>> > > ??????????????????????????????? >>> > > ???? >>> > >>> > ???????????????????????? >>> > ?????????? (^^ >>> >>> ??????????????(^^ >>> ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? kiyoka ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????8????????????????? ???????????????????????? 8?19??26??27?????????????????????? ???????????? ????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????ML?????????????? ????????????????????ML??????????? ??????????????...?????(^^; ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp Sun Aug 13 17:33:42 2000 From: okabek at beige.ocn.ne.jp (OKABE, Keiichi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Programming Perl, 3rd Edition References: <004e01c0031e$b3add4f0$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> <200008122042.FAA06255@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <001501c00576$8c78ca20$cb6e3c81@isl.ntt.co.jp> ???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "IWAI, Masaharu" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: Programming Perl, 3rd Edition > http://www.skysoft.co.jp/GetTitleDetail.asp?UserID=106869&ISBN=0596000278&Source=J3 > ???????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? 1104??????????850????????? --- use Tk;$c=tkinit->Canvas(-height=>50,-width=>100)->pack;$a="15115155,223342, 2343,3335,24254544,6163,5292918185,53939484,7273,6465757464";$a=~s/\s//g; map{s/(\d)/sprintf("%s,",$1*10)/eg;$c->createLine(split /,/,$_)}(split /,/,$a); MainLoop; #okabek@beige.ocn.ne.jp From cudjo at venus.dti.ne.jp Sun Aug 13 19:29:57 2000 From: cudjo at venus.dti.ne.jp (Nagayoshi_Michio) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEIg?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> ??????????? 00/08/13 23:39:04 ? ?? ????? > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:39:28 +0900 > mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: > > ???hacker????????????????????????? > ?????????? (^^; ???? Miracle Linux ?????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ???????????? ????????????????????????? (^^;)? > ?????????????????????????? > ???????UNIX??????????? > ????????????????????? ? ????????? ?????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > ????????????? > ????????????????????????????????? ????????Fortran77?8085ASM?C?????????????? ?????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ?????????????? > ??????????????????? (^^; ??? -- ???????? From takimoto at miki-net.or.jp Sun Aug 13 20:50:49 2000 From: takimoto at miki-net.or.jp (TAKI=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUpCbUtcGyhCIBskQkt+IUsbKEIg?=) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNjUkKCRrOEA4bBsoQiA=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> References: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> Message-ID: <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> TAKI?? # ?????? (^^; Nagayoshi_Michio wrote...: > 00/08/13 23:39:04 ? ?? ????? > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:39:28 +0900 > > mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: > > > ???hacker????????????????????????? ??????? ?????????????? ?????????????????? ?????????? ??????????? > > ?????????????????????????? > > ???????UNIX??????????? > > ????????????????????? ? ????????? > > ?????????????????????????? ?????????? ?????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ????? ????????????hacker????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ????????????? > ????????Fortran77?8085ASM?C?????????????? > ?????????????????????? #??????????????????????????????????? #???????? ??? ??????????????? (^^; > ???????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????????? > ?????????????? > > > ??????????????????? (^^; > > ??? ???? ?? ????????????????????????????? ????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? ???????^h^h??????????????? ??????? ?????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ?? ? "TAKI" takimoto@miki-net.or.jp From hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp Sun Aug 13 21:36:41 2000 From: hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp (HAYASHI Daihachi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= ) In-Reply-To: <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <20000814113641P.hayashi@mxs.mesh.ne.jp> ????????????????(^^; From: TAKI??? ?? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? (Re: 8?????? ) > TAKI?? > > # ?????? (^^; ... > #??????????????????????????????????? > #???????? ??? ??????????????? (^^; ?????(?) ?????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? > > ???????????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????????????? > > ?????????????? > > > > > ??????????????????? (^^; > > > > ??? > > ???? ?? ????????????????????????????? > ????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ????????????? > ???????????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????????? ?????? ????????????????????????? > ??????????????????? > ???????^h^h??????????????? ??????? > ?????????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? ???????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ?????(??????????????)??????????????? ?????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ???????? HAYASHI From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Sun Aug 13 22:29:18 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:14:36 +0900" <200008131614.BAA25252@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008131614.BAA25252@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ??????????????????>???? From: "IWAI, Masaharu" > ????? > ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? kiyoka ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ????????????????? > ??????????????????????????? > ?????????8????????????????? > ???????????????????????? > 8?19??26??27?????????????????????? 26??27??????????????????????????? ???ML??????????????????????????(^^; 19?????????????????????????????? # ?????????????????(^^;;; > ???????????????????ML?????????????? > ????????????????????ML??????????? > ??????????????...?????(^^; ?????face to face ????????????????????(^^ --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From takimoto at miki-net.or.jp Sun Aug 13 22:38:04 2000 From: takimoto at miki-net.or.jp (TAKI=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUpCbUtcGyhCIBskQkt+IUsbKEIg?=) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwbKEIgIA==?= (Re:8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhCIA==?= ) In-Reply-To: <20000814113641P.hayashi@mxs.mesh.ne.jp> References: <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> <20000814113641P.hayashi@mxs.mesh.ne.jp> Message-ID: <3997699C46.BF9DTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> TAKI?? HAYASHI Daihachi wrote...: > ????????????????(^^; ??? ?????????? (^^; > > ???? ?? ????????????????????????????? > > ????????????? > > ??????????????????????????????????? > ????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ??????????? ???? VAX/VMS?????????? ???HP?????????????? ???OS?AEGIS???????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? IBM????JCL????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????? ???? ??? Perl ?? ?????????????????????? > > ???????????????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????????????? > > ?????? ????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? ??????? ????????????????????????? ????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? ????????????? ??????????????? ?????????????????????????? ?? ? "TAKI" takimoto@miki-net.or.jp From hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp Mon Aug 14 02:19:18 2000 From: hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp (HAYASHI Daihachi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?W2thbnNhaXBtXRskQjxjJCQkJiRBJEs2NSQoJGsbKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOEA4bBsoQiAgIChSZTo4GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: <3997699C46.BF9DTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> <20000814113641P.hayashi@mxs.mesh.ne.jp> <3997699C46.BF9DTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <200008140724.QAA27404@meshsv64.os.mesh.ad.jp> ????????????(+??)???? On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:38:04 +0900 TAKI??? ?? wrote: > TAKI?? > > HAYASHI Daihachi wrote...: > > ????????????????(^^; > > ??? ?????????? (^^; ??????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ?????? ... > ???????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????????? ... > ?????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????????? ????????????????? > ???????????????????????????? ??????????????????????? > ??????????????? ??????????????? > ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? # ?????????????? # ??????????????? HAYASHI From kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp Mon Aug 14 08:25:36 2000 From: kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp (Kiyoka Nishiyama) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: <20000812120731V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200008112146.GAA24502@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000812120731V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000814222536J.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> kiyoka??? <<< ????? >>> [T???] [????] ?? 2(M*2) 1 ?? 1(M*1) 1 kiyoka 1(M*1) 0 ?? 1(M*1) 0 ??? ?(?*?) ? ???? M ?????????? ???????? M ????? ^_^; ???? ??????????????????? +--- Kiyoka Nishiyama http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~kiyoka/ From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Mon Aug 14 09:43:53 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:25:36 +0900" <20000814222536J.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> References: <200008112146.GAA24502@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000812120731V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000814222536J.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: ??@?????? ??????????? # ?????????????????(^-^;) At Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:25:36 +0900, Kiyoka Nishiyama wrote: > ??? ?(?*?) ? ???L?1???????? -- ?? ??????? From kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp Mon Aug 14 09:55:37 2000 From: kiyoka at netfort.gr.jp (Kiyoka Nishiyama) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: References: <20000812120731V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000814222536J.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: <20000814235537C.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> kiyoka??? > ??@?????? > (snip) > > ???L?1???????? ??????????? ???????????????????? <<< ????? >>> [T???] [????] ?? 2(M*2) 1 ?? 1(M*1) 1 kiyoka 1(M*1) 0 ?? 1(M*1) 0 ??? 1(L*1) 0 ??? +--- Kiyoka Nishiyama http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~kiyoka/ From mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp Mon Aug 14 10:13:55 2000 From: mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp (mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: References: <20000812120731V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000814222536J.kiyoka@netfort.gr.jp> Message-ID: <20000815001355W.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ??????????? From: Takeshi MUTOH Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers ???? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:43:53 +0900 > ???L?1???????? ??????? ???????????????????? ????????????24:00?????????? ???????????????????????? <<< ????? >>> ======================================================= ??????? ??????? ?????? ------------------------------------------------------- ?? 2 1 1 ?? 1 0 1 kiyoka 1 0 0 ?? 1 0 0 ??? 0 1 0 ------------------------------------------------------- ?? 5 2 2 ------------------------------------------------------- ?????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????(^^;) From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Mon Aug 14 10:16:16 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: LEGO (Re: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQik=?= In-Reply-To: In your message of "Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:15:39 +0900" <20000812141539R.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000812141539R.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: ???@?????? At Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:15:39 +0900, Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ???????????????????????? > LOGO ????????????(???????????) LOGO?????StarLogo????????????????????? > LEGO MindStorm ??????????????????? ????????????????????????????? > Perl ?????????(^^; ????????????????????????? (???)???????????????? > ???Perl????????????????????? > ???????(^^ ??????????C?CGI???????????????????(^-^;) -- ?? ??????? From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Mon Aug 14 10:24:18 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:37 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOGwbKEI=?= (Re: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJXMlSBsoQg==?= ) In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:50:49 +0900" <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: ??@????? At Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:50:49 +0900, TAKI??? ?? wrote: > > 00/08/13 23:39:04 ? ?? ????? > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:39:28 +0900 > > > mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: > > > > ???hacker????????????????????????? > ??????? > ?????????????? ?????????????????? > ?????????? > ??????????? ?????????? # ?????????????????????(^-^;) > ????????????hacker????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????????????? > ????????????? ??????? # xeyes???????????????????(^-^;) > > > ??????????????????? (^^; > > ??? > ???? ?? ????????????????????????????? > ????????????? ??????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????;p -- ?? ??????? From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Mon Aug 14 10:21:13 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (Takeshi MUTOH) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOGwbKEI=?= (Re: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJXMlSBsoQg==?= ) In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:29:57 +0900" <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> References: <3996B30815.4369FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> Message-ID: ???@?????? At Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:29:57 +0900, Nagayoshi_Michio wrote: > > > ???hacker????????????????????????? > > ?????????? (^^; > ???? Miracle Linux ?????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????? > ???????????? > ????????????????????????? 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From mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp Mon Aug 14 12:32:34 2000 From: mishima at momo.so-net.ne.jp (mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200008131614.BAA25252@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ????? ????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ??????????? ?? ?? 12 13 19 20 26 27 2 3 9 10 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? kiyoka ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????> 19?????????????????????????????? ????> # ?????????????????(^^;;; ????> ?????face to face ????????????????????(^^ ?????????????????????????????? ?????? ????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? From sanki at nn.iij4u.or.jp Tue Aug 15 00:00:58 2000 From: sanki at nn.iij4u.or.jp (Sanki Nishiguchi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <3998CE8A12B.80F8SANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> ??????????? CGI ???????????????????? > ????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ???????????????2 ????????? ????????????????????? Programming Perl 3rd Edition ???????? Amazon ??????????Amazon ???????? ?????????????"Caution, ? Working" ? ???????????????????? ################################################## ?????????????????????? 01-FACTORY http://factory.01-net.com/ info@01-net.com ################################################## From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Tue Aug 15 01:53:34 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:00:58 +0900" <3998CE8A12B.80F8SANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> References: <3998CE8A12B.80F8SANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> Message-ID: <20000815155334D.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ??????????? From: Sanki Nishiguchi > ??????????? > > CGI ???????????????????? > > > ????????????????????????? > > ????????????????????????? > ???????????????2 ????????? ???????????(^^ ??????????????????? > ????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ???Perl ??????????????????????(^^ > Programming Perl 3rd Edition ???????? > Amazon ??????????Amazon ???????? > ?????????????"Caution, ? Working" ? > ???????????????????? ????????????(^^ ?????????????????????? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Tue Aug 15 02:32:49 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNjUkKCRrOEA4bBsoQiA=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <39973D852C6.5739CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> <399750793DE.BCC9TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <3998F221B7.8999FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:50:49 +0900 TAKI??? ?? wrote: > TAKI?? ????? (^^ > # ?????? (^^; ???? (^^; > Nagayoshi_Michio wrote...: > > 00/08/13 23:39:04 ? ?? ????? > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:39:28 +0900 > > > mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: > > > > ???hacker????????????????????????? > > ??????? ?????????????? ??????????????????? (?) (^^ ??????????????? ??? ? ????????????????????? ? ???????????? (^^;;; > ????????????hacker????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????????????? > ????????????? ????????????? ??????????????????????? ??????????????? > ???????????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? (^^ =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Tue Aug 15 02:45:56 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <3998F5341C7.899AFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:32:34 +0900 (JST) mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp wrote: > ????? ????? > ????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????? ??????????????? (^^; > ??????????????????????????? > ?????????????????? ??????????????? (^^ =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Tue Aug 15 03:03:27 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re:8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <200008131614.BAA25252@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000814122918H.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <3998F94F164.899BFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:29:18 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ??????????????????>???? ????? > 19?????????????????????????????? > # ?????????????????(^^;;; ????????????????(?????)??????????? ???????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ????? > > ???????????????????ML?????????????? > > ????????????????????ML??????????? > > ??????????????...?????(^^; > > ?????face to face ????????????????????(^^ ?????? ????????????????????? (^^ ? ??????????????????????? ? ???????????? (^^; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Tue Aug 15 03:17:22 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJVklcyVIGyhC?= In-Reply-To: <3998CE8A12B.80F8SANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> References: <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> <3998CE8A12B.80F8SANKI@nn.iij4u.or.jp> Message-ID: <3998FC92219.899CFUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:00:58 +0900 Sanki Nishiguchi wrote: > ??????????? > CGI ???????????????????? ????? (^^ > ????????????????????????? > ???????????????2 ????????? > > ????????????????????? ??????? ???????????? ????????????????? ??????????????? (^^ > Programming Perl 3rd Edition ???????? > Amazon ??????????Amazon ???????? > ?????????????"Caution, ? Working" ? > ???????????????????? ??????????????????????? ?????????????????????? ? ???? (^^ ???????web page????????????? ????????????????????? =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Tue Aug 15 07:20:41 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:32:34 +0900 (JST)" <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000815212041U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ????????????????? 19???????????????? ????> ???????????? ????> ????????????????????????????????? ????> ?????????????????????????????? ????> ?????? ???????????? 1. ???????????? ??????16:00 ?????18:00 ????? ?????????????????????????? 2. ???(^^ ?????????????????? ??????????????????? -------------------------------------------------------- Kansai.pm ??????? ??(???): * ????????????????????????? * ????? * ?????? # ??????????????????(^^ ??: [???????] 8?19?(?) 16:30- [???] 8?19?(?) 19:00- ??: [???????] ??????????? or ????? # ???????????????(^^ # ????????????????????? 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On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:20:41 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > ????????????????? > 19???????????????? ?????????????? (^^ > ??: > [???????] > 8?19?(?) 16:30- > [???] > 8?19?(?) 19:00- ??????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? (^^; ?????????????????????? (^^ ?????????? =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Tue Aug 15 11:43:27 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:21:13 +0900" References: Message-ID: <200008151643.BAA26747@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? (Re: 8?????? ) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:21:13 +0900 Takeshi MUTOH wrote: >???????????????????????(^-^;) ># ?????????;p ????????????????????????? # ???????????????(^^; ??????????????????OS??????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????????????????????? ???????????????????????? - UNIX?C????????????????????? - ???????????????????? ??????????????? etc. - ?????????????????? ????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? >??????????????????????????? >5????????(^-^;) ???????????????????????? ???????????????????? ???????????????????????????? ??????????...?????? >> > ??????????????????? 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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:20:41 +0900 Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: >????????????????? > >19???????????????? ????????????????? >???????: > 8?19?(?) 16:00 > ?????1? ??????(??????) ???????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Tue Aug 15 12:02:20 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:32:49 +0900" <3998F221B7.8999FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <3998F221B7.8999FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008151702.CAA10043@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? (Re: 8?????? ) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:32:49 +0900 Takayasu Funaki wrote: >> # ?????? (^^; > >???? (^^; ???(^^; >> ??????? > >?????????????? >??????????????????? (?) 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From takimoto at miki-net.or.jp Tue Aug 15 13:57:06 2000 From: takimoto at miki-net.or.jp (TAKI=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUpCbUtcGyhCIBskQkt+IUsbKEIg?=) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhCIA==?= ) In-Reply-To: <200008151643.BAA26747@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008151643.BAA26747@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> TAKI?? "IWAI, Masaharu" wrote...: > >???????????????????????(^-^;) > ># ?????????;p ?? ??????? ????????????????? ??? ???? 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"TAKI" takimoto@miki-net.or.jp From hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp Tue Aug 15 20:11:49 2000 From: hayashi at mxs.mesh.ne.jp (HAYASHI Daihachi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: =?iso-2022-jp?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZJXMlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000815212041U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000815023234C.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> <20000815212041U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000816101149W.hayashi@mxs.mesh.ne.jp> ?????? From: Tomohiro FUKUHARA Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Re: 8?????? Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:20:41 +0900 Message-ID: <20000815212041U.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> > ????????????????? > > 19???????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? > -------------------------------------------------------- > Kansai.pm ??????? > > ??(???): > * ????????????????????????? > * ????? > * ?????? > # ??????????????????(^^ ??????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????? ????Perl?????????????(^^) ?????ROM?????????????? ??? HAYASHI From tomohi-f at crl.go.jp Tue Aug 15 21:15:06 2000 From: tomohi-f at crl.go.jp (Tomohiro FUKUHARA) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Re: Perl Mongers =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCI1QlNyVjJUQbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:00:07 +0900 (JST)" <20000816030007O.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> References: <20000816030007O.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> Message-ID: <20000816111506T.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> ??????????????????? 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ROM ??????????????????(^^ ???????????(^^ ???? --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From kankun at osa.att.ne.jp Wed Aug 16 02:01:49 2000 From: kankun at osa.att.ne.jp (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:02:20 JST." <200008151702.CAA10043@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <3998F221B7.8999FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> <200008151702.CAA10043@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000816070149.14670.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> もりわかっす。 > 岩井です。 > > Subject: Re: [kansaipm] 若いうちに教える言語 (Re: 8月のイベント ) > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:32:49 +0900 > Takayasu Funaki wrote: > > >> # チャチャです (^^; > > > >同じく… (^^; > > 同じく(^^; > 同じく:-p > >> まず日本語ね。 > > > >私、実は日本語苦手なんです… > >だからハッカーになるのはあきらめます… (笑) (^^ > > 大丈夫です。英語ができれば。 > あとは、グリーンカードを取得して...(^^; 英語嫌いらしいし... > >かわりにクラッカーを目指します ＜ぉぃ > > > >＃ ウソです。昔は片足を突っ込みかけましたが、 > >＃ 今はそんな事はないです。 (^^;;; > > つ、突っ込みかけましたか... ん、某氏はscript kiddyだったような… # 「crack を使う人」 = 「cracker」 なのかな(ぉぃ # あくまでチャチャ :-p \ / . .\ / | / /\ |\ || / | ||\ | Kazuo Moriwaka =| |= |/\ |~~|| \||/\ | || \| Nara Institute of Science and Technology / \ / \ | \| || || \|__|| | e-mail: kankun@osa.att.ne.jp _=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~ # 19日は参加できそうなら参加します:-) ## 研究室から脱出できるか未定(汗;; From css at geocities.co.jp Wed Aug 16 17:53:49 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:57:06 +0900" <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <200008162253.HAA03322@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? ?????????? 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(Re: 8?????? ) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:57:06 +0900 TAKI??? ?? wrote: >> ????????????????????????? >> # ???????????????(^^; > >????????????????????????????? >???????????????????????????? >?????????????????????????????? ???? ????????????????????????????? ??????????????WWW??????WWW???? ?????????????????????????? ??????????? ??????????????????????...?????????? ?? >????????????????? >?????????????????????????????? >?????????????????????????????? >?????????????????? >???? ????????? ???2002???3?????????????????? ??????????????????... >?????????????????????????????? >?????????????????????????????? >???? >?????????????????????????????? >???????????????????????????? >????????????????? ??? ??????????????????????????????? # ????????????????????????????... ?????????????????????????????? # ?????????????????? ???????????????????????????? # ???Konsai.pm????????????????????????? >???????????Perl????????????? ???? >?????????????????????????????? >??????????????????? >????????????????????????????? >? ?????????? ????????? 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Perl??????????????????????????? ??????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Wed Aug 16 17:57:24 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:01:49 +0900" <20000816070149.14670.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <20000816070149.14670.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <200008162257.HAA04759@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? (Re: 8?????? ) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:01:49 +0900 kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote: >> >??????????????? ??? >> > >> >? ????????????????????? >> >? ???????????? (^^;;; >> >> ????????????... > >?????script kiddy??????? ???????????... ???????????RFC????????????? ># ?crack ????? = ?cracker? ????(?? K?Kracker???(?)? ># ???????? :-p ??? ># 19???????????????:-) >## ?????????????(?;; ?????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp Wed Aug 16 18:56:43 2000 From: mutoh at info.nara-k.ac.jp (mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOGwbKEI=?= (Re: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?OBskQjduJE4lJCVZGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJXMlSBsoQg==?= ) In-Reply-To: In your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:57:24 +0900" <200008162257.HAA04759@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <20000816070149.14670.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> <200008162257.HAA04759@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: ??@??????? ???????????????????;p At Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:57:24 +0900, IWAI, Masaharu wrote: > >> >??????????????? ??? > >> >? ????????????????????? > >> >? ???????????? (^^;;; > >> ????????????... > >?????script kiddy??????? > ???????????... > ???????????RFC????????????? RFC?http 1.1????80??????????? IRC?70???????????? # ??????????????(;-;) -- ??????????.?????????? mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp ?????????????????? ???????#24 ??????????????????? From yuhashimoto at hi-ho.ne.jp Wed Aug 16 10:39:32 2000 From: yuhashimoto at hi-ho.ne.jp (yu hashimoto) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOkc9aSRLNjUkKCRrOEA4bBsoSg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000812124702V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> References: <20000812124702V.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000816235440.1283370.143824948@hi-ho.ne.jp> ?????? > ???? > ???????????COBOL2Perl ???????? > > ?????????COBOL??????????????? > Perl ???????????????????Perl? > ????????????????COBOL ?Perl ????? > ??????????????????? > COBOL2perl????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????????COBOL??perl??????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????COBOL???? ?? COBOL?Linux? perl???????????? perl??? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? ---COBOL--- 01 A PIC X(3) VALUE 'ABC'. 01 B PIC X(8). MOVE A TO B. ---perl--- ??(perl???) $B = $A; ?? $B='ABC'; ??(COBOL???) $B = $A . ( ' ' x 5 ); ?? $B='ABC '; ????????????????????? ???????? ??perl????????? > http://search.cpan.org/ ??COBOL ???????????? > ?????????????? ??????????????????? > Perl ?????????????CPAN ??????????? > ??????????????(^^ ???? COBOL????????????????perl????? ????????????MS-DOS??????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??????????perl?????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ????perl?CGI???? web?????????????telne t????????????????????????????? From css at geocities.co.jp Wed Aug 16 21:22:25 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:56:43 +0900" References: Message-ID: <200008170222.LAA13688@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? (Re: 8?????? ) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:56:43 +0900 mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp wrote: >???????????????????;p ?????? # ??? >> ???????????RFC????????????? > >RFC?http 1.1????80??????????? >IRC?70???????????? ????????????????????... ????????????????????????? ># ??????????????(;-;) ?????????? ??????????????????????????? ??????????? ???????????????? ?? ?????????????????????? ????????...??? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From kankun at osa.att.ne.jp Wed Aug 16 22:31:07 2000 From: kankun at osa.att.ne.jp (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:22:25 JST." <200008170222.LAA13688@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200008170222.LAA13688@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000817033107.14898.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> 森若＠ないすと です。 > 岩井です。 ... > >明日から旅に出ます．探さないでください;p 遠くのお星さまに？(ぉぃ > >> そんなことしてるより、RFCとか読んだ方がいいのかな？ > > > >RFCもhttp 1.1とかだと80ページとかありますよ． > >IRCで70ページぐらいだったかな? > > やはり、真のハッカーを目指すならその辺も... > あれ？クラッカーでしたっけ？ま、どっちでもいいや。 クラッカー目指すなら、RFCよりも"中途半端にメジャーな"サーバの ソースを読んで、バッファオーバーラン起こしそうな所を探した方が 効率的かも。 # プロトコル自体にバグがある、っていう例は(あるけど)少ないし… > ># なぜだか読むはめになっている(;-;) う゛っ。(私もちょっと前にIRCのプロトコルを…(吐血)) > 僕はこういうときだけ、 > 「母国語が何故英語じゃないの？」 > とか > 「何故日本語が全世界的に使われてないんだ。」 > とか思ってしまう...＜バカ 英語は、じーっと見てると なんとか読めるのですが、 パッと見だだけでは 何が書いているか わからないので 「君らなんで漢字使わんのん!」 と、ぶつくさいうヲヤヂです(あせ;; # 中国語は読めもしませんが…(苦笑 \ / . .\ / | / /\ |\ || / | ||\ | Kazuo Moriwaka =| |= |/\ |~~|| \||/\ | || \| Nara Institute of Science and Technology / \ / \ | \| || || \|__|| | e-mail: kankun@osa.att.ne.jp _=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~ From kankun at osa.att.ne.jp Wed Aug 16 23:20:22 2000 From: kankun at osa.att.ne.jp (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhCIA==?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 2000 03:57:06 JST." <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <200008151643.BAA26747@mail.geocities.co.jp> <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <20000817042022.15098.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> もりわか％このすれっどの もと の もと っす。 #長文失礼(^^; > TAKIです > > "IWAI, Masaharu" wrote...: > > >同級生にもいわれました．「育つやつは育つ」って(^-^;) > > ># 教育の価値って一体;p > > そう 教育の価値って いかに方向性を示して上げられるか？ という > ところ。 うーむ。個人的には、目の前に、PCとまともな本を置かれてて、 なんもせーへん奴は、一生懸命教えたってプログラムょゎぃ気が… というわけで、教育というか、教育機関の価値は、チャンス (資料と対象と時間、ちょびっとのきっかけ)を与えることにあると 思ってまふ。 > #宴会だけが目的だなんて論外です。 がーん がーん がーん がーん がーん 俺って論外だったらしい(泣) # ああもうだめだ俺なんか論外なんや わーん(こらこら 個人的には、セミナーより宴会の方が役に立つと 思っていたりするのですが(^^;;; # だって、セミナー受ける時間使って自分で調べた方が # 速かったり深かったり…と、思うこともしばしば(こらこらこら > だいたい言語そのものを覚えたってあまり意味は無いですね。 > いかに、その言語を使うか？ というところです。 ういうい。 でも、必要になりそうな言語やライブラリやツールを *勉強し続ける* のは、道具の手入れをするようなもので、 必須だと感じていたり。 # だって、on demand で勉強してたら機動力低すぎ X-( > C言語なんかが特にそうです。C言語だけじゃ大抵は必要なことなど > 何もできやしない。 言語を覚えるのに意味がないんじゃなくて、 言語*だけ*を覚えても意味がなくて、実装することだけ見ても ライブラリやハードやプロトコルについて知らんといかんし、他にも 設計や分析の技法も知ってないと、まっとうなプログラムなんて書けないよ という話ですね :-) > > あとは、コンピュータ系ならば、どんなOSとか言語とかがあるか、 > > それらの特徴は、とかを紹介するというのが僕的には嬉しいかも。 > > 実践できる場が提供されていれば、更に幸せ。 うーん。Debianパッケージの、develセクションをdselectで眺めてみるとか。 メジャーなライブラリやツールも並んでるし、すぐインストールして試せるし… 同様にsunsiteとかのftpサイトを漁るのも… > 汎用的な言語ほど いろんなOSで動くので、その環境に合った使い方 > なんかはけっこう参考になるかもしれないですね。 挙げ足とりっぽいのでアレですが、汎用的な某言語は某OSでしか動かない、 というのは枚挙に暇がないような… そして、めっちゃ特化した某言語の処理系は、いろんなOSに 移植されてるよねー、ってのも珍しい話じゃないような… > の順での議論ができないと、単に猫の集会的なもの以上にはならな > いでしょう。 なんとか.pm って親睦を深めるのが主な目的だった気がするので(あせあせ; 猫の集会以上にならなくてもそんなに問題ないよーな気が。 > いつでもコンピューターが使える環境が手に入ると、先生が何か方 > 向付けをしてやらないかぎり、子供は自然と面白い方向へ走っちゃ > うもの。 小6の頃の私みたく、プログラミングが面白いと思う子供もいるはず :-) # 英単語ドリル用のPCで勝手にプログラム書いてましたよ？(笑) > ただ、それが望ましい方向であるとは限らないわけで、そのへんを > ちゃんとコントロールしてあげるのが先生の仕事なわけです。 > でもこれが一番むつかしいでしょう。 むやみと凄腕な先生が必要ですね(汗; 要求が高すぎるような… 普通の授業をまっとうに進行させることができなくなる 「学級崩壊」なんちゅう言葉をよくみかけるような現状で、 そこまで求めるのはかなり厳しいかと。 s/先生/親/g ってやってみても、難しいなぁ〜。ほとんどの家では無理でしょう。 s/先生/上司/g とやった場合は、給料である程度モチベーションが 与えられてるから、上2種よりはちょっと条件いいかもしれない。 でもかなりしんどそうだ。 > 知り合いの大学教授が嘆いてました。 > 「小学生にコンピューターなんて教える必要ないよ。そんなことよ > りちゃんとほかの勉強を教えてくれないと困る。分数の計算もろく > にできない学生がたくさんいるんだよ」 > ってね。 Kansai.pm で少数の掛け算テストやったら、平均点いくらかな〜？(ぉぃ # 私は算数はできるけど(^^; 県庁所在地を全部言う自信は無いっす。 # 私にとっては歴代天皇の名前と同レベルに、役に立たない知識なので…(苦笑) \ / . .\ / | / /\ |\ || / | ||\ | Kazuo Moriwaka =| |= |/\ |~~|| \||/\ | || \| Nara Institute of Science and Technology / \ / \ | \| || || \|__|| | e-mail: kankun@osa.att.ne.jp _=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~ From yasu at asuka.net Thu Aug 17 01:40:02 2000 From: yasu at asuka.net (HIRATA Yasuyuki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Programming Perl, 3rd =?iso-2022-jp?B?RWRpdGlvbhskQiFKGyhCUmU6?= [ kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwhSxsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <200008102029.FAA01346@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <200008102029.FAA01346@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <20000817154002T.yasu@asuka.net> ????????? ????????????:-) From: "IWAI, Masaharu" Subject: [kansaipm] Programming Perl, 3rd Edition?Re: [ kansaipm] ??????????? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:29:35 +0900 Message-ID: <200008102029.FAA01346@mail.geocities.co.jp> > >????????Programming Perl, 3rd Edition ??????? > >????????????????????? > > Amazon.Com??????????? amazon.com ??????????????????????? http://www.bookpool.com/ ??? amazon ??????????(???????????:-p) ??????????? | ?????????????? ??????? mailto:yasu@asuka.net | mailto:yasuyu-h@is.aist-nara.ac.jp http://www.asuka.net/~yasu/ | http://iplab.aist-nara.ac.jp/~yasuyu-h/ Key fingerprint: ADB2 DC8E 957C 2A24 01E4 D7C9 76E3 F62A 106E F229 From toru at maid.ne.jp Thu Aug 17 03:34:00 2000 From: toru at maid.ne.jp (Yano Toru (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCTHBMbhsoQiAbJEJEKhsoQg==?=)) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] 8 =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcxsoQiAbJEIlSBsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: References: <200008102019.FAA28358@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000812143335S.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> Message-ID: <20000817.173400.85318590.toru@maid.ne.jp> ????? # ?????PC??????????????:P ???? Takeshi MUTOH ?? ? Re: [kansaipm] 8 ????? ? ?? ? Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:40:02 +0900 > ??@?????? > Tomohiro FUKUHARA wrote: > > LILO???Kansai.pm????????????????K*BUG? > > ??????????????????(?????????? > > ??????(^^;) > ???????????????????????????;p ??????... ????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+----- Yano Toru (?? ?) toru@maid.ne.jp Web : http://sakura.maid.ne.jp/ Web : http://www.tenchi.ne.jp/~toru/ ICQ : 44263504 From kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp Thu Aug 17 04:03:26 2000 From: kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UmU6IFtrYW5zYWlwbV0gOCAbJEI3biROJSQlWSVzGyhKIBskQiVIGyhK?= Message-ID: ????????????????? toru@maid.ne.jp wrote: > ????? > # ?????PC??????????????:P ???????????????(^^ > ??????... > ????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????? (???????????????????????????) ???????????K*BUG ?????????? ??????????????????(^^ ????????Kansai.pm ??????????? ???K*BUG ???????????????????? ?????????????m(__)m --- FUKUHARA Tomohiro(kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp Thu Aug 17 04:49:52 2000 From: kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UmU6IFtrYW5zYWlwbV0gGyRCOkc9aSRLNjUkKCRrOEA4bBsoSg==?= Message-ID: ?????????????????????? yuhashimoto@hi-ho.ne.jp wrote: > ?????? > > COBOL2perl????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ????????COBOL??perl??????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????????? ... > ?????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ??? ?????????????? COBOL2Perl ??????????????? ?????????? > ???? COBOL????????????????perl????? > ????????????MS-DOS??????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ??????????perl?????????????????? > ??????????????????????????? > ????perl?CGI???? web?????????????telne > t????????????????????????????? ?????????(^^????????????? ???????????????m(__)m --- FUKUHARA Tomohiro(kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From kikawa at mx9.freecom.ne.jp Thu Aug 17 08:00:07 2000 From: kikawa at mx9.freecom.ne.jp (kikawa) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Programming Perl, 3rd =?ISO-2022-JP?B?RWRpdGlvbg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUobKEJSZTo=?= [ kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwhSxsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000817154002T.yasu@asuka.net> References: <20000810223908W.tomohi-f@po.crl.go.jp> <200008102029.FAA01346@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000817154002T.yasu@asuka.net> Message-ID: <200008171257.IAA00995@happyfunball.pm.org> ????? #????????????? On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:40:02 +0900 (JST) > ????????? ????????????:-) > snip > > >????????Programming Perl, 3rd Edition ??????? > > >????????????????????? > > > > Amazon.Com??????????? > > amazon.com ??????????????????????? > http://www.bookpool.com/ ??? > amazon ??????????(???????????:-p) > http://www.skysoft.co.jp/ ??????? ?????????????????????? #????????????????(^^; From takimoto at miki-net.or.jp Thu Aug 17 16:38:00 2000 From: takimoto at miki-net.or.jp (TAKI=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUpCbUtcGyhCIBskQkt+IUsbKEIg?=) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] kansai.pm=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRSo2NTBpT0AhShsoQg==?= Re: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhCIA==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwhSxsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000817042022.15098.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> <20000817042022.15098.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <399C5B38A.43E2TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> TAKI?? # kansai.pm ?????????????? ??????? ??? (^^; # ?? kansai.pm ?????????????kansai??????????? kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote...: > > ?? ??????? ????????????????? ??? > > ???? > > ???????????????PC????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? ????? ???? Perl??????????? ???????????? ?? ? ??????????? kansai.pm ??? ?????????? # ??? kansai.pm ??????????? > > #???????????????? > > ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? > ???????????(?) > # ???????????????? ???(???? ?? ????? ???? ???????? > ?????????????????????? > ????????????(^^;;; ????? ??????????? ?????????? ?????????????????????????? ?????????? ???? ???????????? ????? ? ???????????? ????????? ???? ????????????????????kansai.pm??????? ???????? ??????? > ???????????????????????? > *??????* ??????????????????? > ??????????? > # ????on demand ????????????? 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(^^; > > ?????????????????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????????? > > ???? > > ?6????????????????????????????? :-) > # ????????PC?????????????????(?) ?? ?????????? ????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ????????????????? > > ?????????????????????????????? > > ???????????????????????????? > > ????????????????? > > ???????????????(?; ??????????? ????? ????? ???????? ?????????????????? ?????????????????? ???? ?????????????????? ???????????????????? ??????????????? ????????????? ?????????????? ???????????? ?? ? "TAKI" takimoto@miki-net.or.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Fri Aug 18 00:47:31 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] kansai.pm=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRSo2NTBpT0AhShsoQg==?= Re: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhCIBskQiQoJGs4QDhsIUsbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:38:00 +0900" <399C5B38A.43E2TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <399C5B38A.43E2TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <200008180547.OAA06008@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: [kansaipm] kansai.pm????? Re: [kansaipm]?????? ????? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:38:00 +0900 TAKI??? ?? wrote: >> > #???????????????? (snip) >???? ????????????????????kansai.pm??????? >???????? ??????? ?????Perl??????????????????????? Kansai.pm??????????????? ???????????????????Perl??????????????? # ??????????????????????????????? # ???Perl????????????? >> > ???????? ????OS????????????????? >> > ??????????????????????? >> >> ?????????????????????????OS???????? >> ???????????????? > >?? ????????????????????????? >??????????????? ???????????????????? :-) >???????????? ??????????????? >C C++ Fortran COBOL Perl Tcl/Tk JAVA ??? >????? ?????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????? ?????...(^^; >> > ?????????????????????????????? >> > ???????????????????????????? >> > ????????????????? >> >> ???????????????(?; ??????????? > >????? ????? >???????? ?????????????????? >?????????????????? ???????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? >???????????????????? ??????????????? >????????????? ?????????????? >???????????? # ???????????????????? ??????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????????... # ?????????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From kankun at osa.att.ne.jp Fri Aug 18 01:10:18 2000 From: kankun at osa.att.ne.jp (kankun@osa.att.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] kansai.pm=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRSo2NTBpT0AhShsoQg==?= Re: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhCIA==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwhSxsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:38:00 JST." <399C5B38A.43E2TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> References: <3999928219A.8BEBTAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> <20000817042022.15098.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> <399C5B38A.43E2TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> Message-ID: <20000818061018.18989.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> もりわか＠ないすと ですぅ。 > TAKIです ... > kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote...: > > > そう 教育の価値って いかに方向性を示して上げられるか？ という > > > ところ。 > > > > うーむ。個人的には、目の前に、PCとまともな本を置かれてて、 > > なんもせーへん奴は、一生懸命教えたってプログラムょゎぃ気が… > > そーやでぇ そやから Perlをつこおてコンピュータ ゆうたらこんなにおもろい > ねん て きっかけを作ったるのが kansai.pm やねん ってことでもええねん うーん。話がかみあってないですね。 きっかけを与える必要がある時点で、ほとんどダメなんでふ。 育つ人は勝手に育ちます。 全く何も知らない状態からの最初の一歩だけ手伝えばそれでok。 # kansai.pmを知る頃にはその最初の一歩なんてとっくの昔に通り越してるので…。 > あ” そうなん？ やっぱし そーやったんやぁ へい。.pm だから宴会が主目的であたりまえのような気も(ふふふ > しやけど 単に集まって宴会するだけねんやったら別にkansai.pmやのーてもええ > わけでっしゃろ？ ちゃいまっか？ え〜〜〜。それは私の認識とは大いに異なるところです。 だって、宴会の席で、延々Perlの話し続けてもOK な状況って、 なんとか.pm でもない限り、滅多に無いと思うんですが(あせ;; # とりあえずうちの研究室でやると、Rubyな人と激闘する羽目に :-p > ん？ なんか汎用の意味がちゃうみたい。なんかちゃうわぁ。 > そんなん汎用ってゆうにゃろか？ > わしが誤解しとんやろか？ やっぱし汎用言語ゆうたら・・・ > C C++ Fortran COBOL Perl Tcl/Tk JAVA ・・・ > とかやなぁ 処理系にあんまり依存せえへんもんやと思とんねんけど？ ひょっとして、 ・いろんな目的で使える と、 ・いろんな環境で使える の勘違い？ とりあえず私は前者の意味で「汎用」という言葉を使っていますがどうでせう？ > > > ただ、それが望ましい方向であるとは限らないわけで、そのへんを > > > ちゃんとコントロールしてあげるのが先生の仕事なわけです。 > > > でもこれが一番むつかしいでしょう。 > > > > むやみと凄腕な先生が必要ですね(汗; 要求が高すぎるような… > > ちゃうねん ちゃうねん > わかってへんなぁ それが先生のほんまの仕事やねんでぇ。 理想の話でしたか(^^; でも、「望ましい」とか「望ましくない」なんて、 勝手に判断されてもやらしーですな(苦笑) \ / . .\ / | / /\ |\ || / | ||\ | Kazuo Moriwaka =| |= |/\ |~~|| \||/\ | || \| Nara Institute of Science and Technology / \ / \ | \| || || \|__|| | e-mail: kankun@osa.att.ne.jp _=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~_=~ 人間のクローン実験を禁止する動きに激しく憤りを感じる今日この頃、 医療目的限定とはいえ許可の方向に動きだしたイギリス政府はえらいかも。 From takimoto at miki-net.or.jp Fri Aug 18 04:44:26 2000 From: takimoto at miki-net.or.jp (TAKI =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCIUpCbUtcGyhCIBskQkt+IUsbKEIg?=) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] kansai.pm=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRSobKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNjUwaU9AIUobKEIg?= Re: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhCICA=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwhSxsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: <20000818061018.18989.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <399C5B38A.43E2TAKIMOTO@mailhost.miki-net.or.jp> <20000818061018.18989.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <399D057A208.B707TAKIMOTO@10.201.2.111> TAKI?? kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote...: > > ????? ???? Perl??????????? ???????????? > > ?? ? ??????????? kansai.pm ??? ?????????? > > ????????????????? ????????? > ???????????????????????????? > ???????????? ??? (^^; ?????????? ??????????? > > ???? ????????????????????kansai.pm??????? > > ???????? ??????? > > ?????????????????????????? > ????????????Perl???????OK ?????? > ????.pm ???????????????????(??;; ??? ????????? ???????????Perl?????????? ??????OK?? > # ????????????????Ruby?????????? :-p ? ?????? ?????? Perl ??????? (#^o^#)v > > ?? ????????????????????????? > > ??????????????? > > ???????????? ??????????????? > > C C++ Fortran COBOL Perl Tcl/Tk JAVA ??? > > ????? ?????????????????????????? > > ??????? > ??????????? > ?? > ??????????? > ????? > ???????????????????????????????????? ??????? ??????????????????????? ? ??????????????? > > > > ?????????????????????????????? > > > > ???????????????????????????? > > > > ????????????????? > > > > > > ???????????????(?; ??????????? > > > > ????? ????? > > ???????? ?????????????????? > > ????????(^^; > ??????????????????????? > ????????????????(??) ??????????????????????? ?? ??????????????????????? ????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? ? ????????? ??? ????????????? ???? ?? ? "TAKI" takimoto@miki-net.or.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Fri Aug 18 17:54:59 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1JCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhC?= ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:31:07 +0900" <20000817033107.14898.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> References: <20000817033107.14898.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> Message-ID: <200008182255.HAA16277@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? ????????????????????????????? ML?????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ???????????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? (Re: 8?????? ) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:31:07 +0900 kankun@osa.att.ne.jp wrote: >> >> ???????????RFC????????????? >> > >> >RFC?http 1.1????80??????????? >> >IRC?70???????????? >> >> ????????????????????... >> ????????????????????????? > >???????????RFC???"??????????"???? >??????????????????????????????? >?????? > ># ????????????????????(????)????? ????????????? ???????????Bugtraq????????????? # ????Script Kiddy???????????? # ?????????Perl????????????? >???????????? ???????????? >????????? ???????? ??????? >?????????????!? >?????????????(??;; ???????????????????????????????(^^; ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From cudjo at venus.dti.ne.jp Fri Aug 18 19:00:49 2000 From: cudjo at venus.dti.ne.jp (Nagayoshi_Michio) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm]=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPGMkJCQmJEEkSzY1GyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJCgkazhAOGwbKEI=?= (Re: 8=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCN24kTiUkJVklcyVIGyhCIA==?= ) In-Reply-To: <200008182255.HAA16277@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <20000817033107.14898.qmail@ryo4213.aist-nara.ac.jp> <200008182255.HAA16277@mail.geocities.co.jp> Message-ID: <399DCE3124E.BA90CUDJO@smtp.venus.dti.ne.jp> ??????????? 00/08/19 07:54:59 ? ?? ????? > ????????????????????????????? > ML?????????????????????????? > ?????????????????????????????? > ???????????? ?????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????? ????2????????????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????????? (^^;) -- ???????? From kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp Sun Aug 20 02:33:14 2000 From: kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJV8hPCVGJSMlcyUwJE4kXiRIJGEbKEo=?= Message-ID: ??????????????????m(__)m ?????????????????????????? * ???????? * K*BUG, LILO, Kansai.pm???????? * ???????????????????????? ------- * ???????? [??] ?9???????10??? [??] ??? - ??????????? - ?????????????(????????????) [??(??????????)] ??????????(????) - ????????? - ???????????? ?perldoc ???(????) - perldoc ?????????????? - ??????????????????????????? ????????Perl ??(????(CUDJO??? and ?????)) - ??????Perl ????? - Perl ???????????????????? - Hash????????????????????(tie ?????) ?Perl/Tk ????(????) [?????] ?K*BUG ?LILO ?Ruby ??????? ?Perl for Win32 ???????? ???? ?Mac ??????? ?Windows NT ??????? ?Visual Basic ??????? ????????????????????????? --- * K*BUG, LILO, Kansai.pm ???????? K*BUG, LILO ??????Kansai.pm ??????? ???????????????????????? ?????????????????kansai.pm??????? ???????K*BUG, lilo ??????????????? ??????????? ??Ruby ?????????????????????? ???????????? --- * ???????????????????????? ????????????(???????????)???? ????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? ????????????????????????? ????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? --- * ?????? ?Bit ??????Perl ??????Perl ????????? - ?????Perl???????????? - ???Perl ???????? ?Perl ?Ruby ??? - Ruby ?????????????????? ------- ??????????????????????(^^; ????????????????? --- FUKUHARA Tomohiro(kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From maeda at tokyo.pm.org Sun Aug 20 23:52:56 2000 From: maeda at tokyo.pm.org (maeda@tokyo.pm.org) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:38 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl/Ruby Conference Message-ID: <200008210452.NAA01573@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> 前田@Tokyo.pmです。 すでにご存知と思いますが、11月29日〜12月1日に京都でLinux Conferenceが開催され、その中でPerl/Ruby Conferenceも開催されます。 主催はO'Reilly Japanです。 多分オライリーの渡里さんから別途Kansai.pmの方々に協力依頼が出る と思いますが、わたし的に協力をお願いしたいのは以下のようなことで す。 o プログラム委員会にどなたか参加してください o チュートリアルやカンファレンスの題目念出や講師紹介 o 当日、Perl Mongersのミニブース出展(Tシャツを売る、等) 平日なので、参加が大変かもしれませんが、もし都合がつけばよろしく お願いしたいと思います。 また、来年2月には、東京地区になりますが、「オープンソースまつり 2001 in 秋葉原」、来年早々に「Yet Another Perl Conference 19101」 の開催を計画中です。セミナー講師を引き受けていただける方には、東 京駅までの往復新幹線代くらいは出せると思いますので、ぜひよろしく お願いします。 ついでですが、猫集会的活動について。私がTokyo.pmを作ったとき、 「いちばん大事な仕事は宴会」と定義しました。セミナー・勉強会や情 報交換は他にもチャネルがありますが、face to faceでPerlに特化した 会合というと、なかなかチャンスがありません。なおTokyo.pmではセミ ナー/勉強会を自分では行わず、jusやlinet.gr.jpのセミナー/勉強会へ 講師を派遣(笑)しています。 Kansai.pm8月例会の議事録なんかを見ていると、Perl/Ruby Conference 向きな話題がいくつかありますね。オライリーのつてで講師を見つける ことが可能な場合もありますので、「こんな話は聞きたいが誰が話せる かわからない」というトピックはぜひご紹介ください。 ------------------------------- Avatar Md+ d/=□=\. Md+ 前田 薫 maeda@tokyo.pm.org 75t 170km/h AFC50 O \*oo*/ " LG+ LG+ Tokyo.pm http://tokyo.pm.org HeatSink 15 LRM10 .=X￣X=. LRM10 ------------------------------- Armor 2164 Md+ _|_ _|_ Md+ From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Tue Aug 22 23:54:59 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJV8hPCVGJSMlcxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJTAkTiReJEgkYRsoQg==?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <39A359232F7.4771FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ??????????? On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:33:14 +0900 kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp wrote: > ??????????????????m(__)m ??????????????? ???????????????? ?????????????????????? (^^ ????????????????????? ???????????????Perl??????????? ????????????? ??????? ?????????? > ?????????????????????????? > ????????Perl ??(????(CUDJO??? and ?????)) > - ??????Perl ????? > - Perl ???????????????????? > - Hash????????????????????(tie ?????) ?????????? (^^; ??????????????? ? ????????? ????and???????????????? ?????????????????????? ????????????????????? (^^; > * ???????????????????????? > > ????????????(???????????)???? > ???????????? ??????????????????? ????????????????????? ????????????? ?????? (^^; ????????????????????????? (^^;; ???????????????????????? ? ????????? (^^;; =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From funaki at onkyo.co.jp Wed Aug 23 00:21:05 2000 From: funaki at onkyo.co.jp (Takayasu Funaki) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl/Ruby Conference In-Reply-To: <200008210452.NAA01573@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> References: <200008210452.NAA01573@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> Message-ID: <39A35F412BC.4772FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> ????? On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:52:56 +0900 (JST) maeda@tokyo.pm.org wrote: > ??@Tokyo.pm??? ????? (^^ > ?????????????11?29??12?1?????Linux > Conference??????????Perl/Ruby Conference???????? > ???O'Reilly Japan??? ... > o ????????????????????? > o ????????????????????????? > o ???Perl Mongers????????(T????????) > ???????????????????????????????? > ???????????? kansai.pm??????????? ????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? ?????Linux Conference???????????????? ????????????? ActivePerl??Visual Perl???????????????? ??????????????? ? ???? (^^; > ?????2?????????????????????????? > 2001 in ???????????Yet Another Perl Conference 19101? > ???????????????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????????? > ??????? ???????????????????????????? ???????????????????? (^^; > ????????????????????Tokyo.pm??????? > ???????????????????????????????? > ??????????????????face to face?Perl????? > ????????????????????????Tokyo.pm???? > ??/????????????jus?linet.gr.jp?????/???? > ?????(?)?????? ????????????????????? ?????????????????????????? (^^ > Kansai.pm8?????????????????Perl/Ruby Conference > ???????????????????????????????? > ???????????????????????????????? > ????????????????????????? ???????????????? ????????????????????????? (^^ =-=- Takayasu Funaki funaki@onkyo.co.jp From kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp Wed Aug 23 04:42:13 2000 From: kroonyao at mail.goo.ne.jp (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?iso-2022-jp?B?UmU6IFtrYW5zYWlwbV0gGyRCJV8hPCVGJSMlcyUwJE4kXiRIJGEbKEo=?= Message-ID: ??????????? funaki@onkyo.co.jp wrote: > ??????????? > > > ????????Perl ??(????(CUDJO??? and ?????)) > > - ??????Perl ????? > > - Perl ???????????????????? > > - Hash????????????????????(tie ?????) > > ?????????? (^^; > ??????????????? > ? ????????? > > ????and???????????????? > ?????????????????????? > ????????????????????? (^^; ???????????????????(^^; > > * ???????????????????????? > > ??????????????????? > > ????????????????????? > ????????????? ?????? (^^; > ????????????????????????? (^^;; ????????ML ??????????????? ?????????? > ???????????????????????? > ? ????????? (^^;; ?????????????? ????????(^^;; --- Tomohiro Fukuhara (kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp) From maeda at tokyo.pm.org Tue Aug 29 01:27:40 2000 From: maeda at tokyo.pm.org (maeda@tokyo.pm.org) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Call For Speakers: Perl/Ruby Conference 2000 Message-ID: <200008290627.PAA02874@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> 前田@Tokyo.pmです。 Perl/Rubyカンファレンス(11/29〜12/1)のプログラムを作成しています。 以下のような内容で話してくれる方をさがしています。我こそはという 方、あるいは、この人はどうだという紹介をぜひ、私までご連絡くださ い。 Perl Conference(50*6コマのうち3コマ） [1]日本語情報処理 jperlからutf8環境への移行を中心に、日本語処理全般について [2]CPANの使い方 CPANおよびActiveStateのPPMから必要なモジュールをさがし出し、 インストールして使う。CPAN、PPMツールの使い方(Webプロキシの設定など) 時間があれば有名なモジュール(Date::Manip、Jcode、FindBinなど)の紹介も [3]モジュールの作り方 Pure Perlモジュール、およびXSによるCコードのモジュールを作る h2xsの使い方、MakeMakerの使い方、モジュール名のつけ方など Special Session(90*3コマのうち2コマ) [1]スクリプトの比較(パネル) Perl/Ruby/sh+awk+sed他/Python?の比較、適材適所的使い方 司会候補: 前田@Tokyo.pm パネラー: Perl担当者をPerl Mongersで募集★ [2]ワンライナーのすすめ＋Perl/Rubyの鉄人 即興でワンライナーを作り、ワンライナーパラダイムによるプログラ ミングの実際を見る。 司会およびワンライナー概説: 前田@Tokyo.pm Perlの鉄人、Rubyの鉄人、shの鉄人: それぞれ募集★ スピーカーの方には講師料が出ます(2万円/1時間)。また、東京地区か らの場合は往復の新幹線代および1泊分の宿泊費が出ます。会期が平日 ということもあり、都合がつきにくいかもしれませんが、よろしくお願 いします。 ------------------------------- Avatar Md+ d/=□=\. Md+ 前田 薫 maeda@tokyo.pm.org 75t 170km/h AFC50 O \*oo*/ " LG+ LG+ Tokyo.pm http://tokyo.pm.org HeatSink 15 LRM10 .=X￣X=. LRM10 ------------------------------- Armor 2164 Md+ _|_ _|_ Md+ From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 31 16:48:58 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Call For Speakers: Perl/Ruby Conference 2000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:27:40 +0900 (JST)" <200008290627.PAA02874@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> References: <200008290627.PAA02874@opera.src.ricoh.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008312149.GAA22615@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: [kansaipm] Call For Speakers: Perl/Ruby Conference 2000 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:27:40 +0900 (JST) maeda@tokyo.pm.org wrote: >Perl/Ruby???????(11/29?12/1)??????????????? ??????? >???????????????????????????????? >???????????????????????????????? >?? ???????????????????? ?????????????Kansai.pm?????????? ??????????????????????????? ??????????????? # Message-Id: <20000807012606H.mishima@momo.so-net.ne.jp> ?????Kansai.pm??????????????? ????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 31 17:53:18 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] Perl/Ruby Conference In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:21:05 +0900" <39A35F412BC.4772FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <39A35F412BC.4772FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008312253.HAA22342@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] Perl/Ruby Conference Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:21:05 +0900 Takayasu Funaki wrote: >> o ????????????????????? >> o ????????????????????????? >> o ???Perl Mongers????????(T????????) >> ???????????????????????????????? >> ???????????? > >kansai.pm??????????? >????????????????????????????? >???????????????????????? ???????????K*BUG?LILO?????????????? ????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????ML? ????????????? >??????????????????????????? ??????????? >?????Linux Conference???????????????? >????????????? >ActivePerl??Visual Perl???????????????? >??????????????? ? ???? (^^; ????????????????????LC2000? ????Visual Perl????????????????(^^; ActivePerl???????????? ???????Perl/Ruby Conference????????? ?????????? >> Kansai.pm8?????????????????Perl/Ruby Conference >> ???????????????????????????????? >> ???????????????????????????????? >> ????????????????????????? > >???????????????? >????????????????????????? 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Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:33:14 +0900 kroonyao@mail.goo.ne.jp wrote: >[??] >??? > - ??????????? 9????10??????????????????????? ???????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????? >[??(??????????)] >??????????(????) > - ????????? > - ???????????? > >?perldoc ???(????) > - perldoc ?????????????? > - ??????????????????????????? ??????2????????OK???????????? ???????? >[?????] ??????Linux???? - ???? - ???????? ??????? >* ???????????????????????? > >????????????(???????????)???? >????????????????????????????? >?????????????????????????? >????????????????????????? >????????????? ???????????????????????????? ?????? # ??????TAKI?? >??????????????????????(^^; ????????????????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp From css at geocities.co.jp Thu Aug 31 17:54:13 2000 From: css at geocities.co.jp (IWAI, Masaharu) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:03:39 2004 Subject: [kansaipm] =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJV8hPCVGJSMlcyUwJE4kXiRIJGEbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:54:59 +0900" <39A359232F7.4771FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> References: <39A359232F7.4771FUNAKI@onkyogw.onkyo.co.jp> Message-ID: <200008312254.HAA22940@mail.geocities.co.jp> ????? Subject: Re: [kansaipm] ?????????? Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:54:59 +0900 Takayasu Funaki wrote: >?????????????????????? (^^ ?????????? ??????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????? >????????????????????? >???????????????Perl??????????? ??????????????????????????????(^^; >> ????????Perl ??(????(CUDJO??? and ?????)) >> - ??????Perl ????? >> - Perl ???????????????????? >> - Hash????????????????????(tie ?????) > >?????????? (^^; >??????????????? >? ????????? ???????????????????????? ???????????????:-) >????and???????????????? >?????????????????????? >????????????????????? (^^; ???????????????????? ??? / css@geocities.co.jp