From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Sat Feb 3 05:48:32 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303E8F@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - [This posting, which has no or very little Perl, was posted by the Jax PM Moderator: -Sneex- :] BTW: Where is everyone? Off discussin' things on OPL's ??? I think we all should at least say Hi to the few new members who have joined our group recently :) print "Hi!" if /Joined\s+Jax\.PM\s+recently/igo; -Sneex- :] ____________________________ ('> wcjones@fccj.org //\ E-Systems Developer v_/_ Have Computer - Will Hack... > ---------- > From: Denise Olliffe > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:27 PM > To: bill@fccj.org > Subject: O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" > > For immediate release > Review copies available > Contact: Denise Olliffe > (707) 829-0515 ext 339 or deniseo@oreilly.com > > > INVISIBILITY IN A NUTSHELL > > Mainframes on Wall Street trade stocks with one another by using it. > Children playing games on their home PCs save their documents in it. > Sports fans receive real-time game scores on their cell phones with it. > "XML is so important that very soon it will become invisible," says W. > Scott Means, coauthor of the new O'Reilly book "XML in a Nutshell" (US > $29.95). "What I mean is, that its applications are so broad and > diverse, that it will be taken for granted. Within the next five years, > products will no more tout XML support as a feature, as they tout > Windows support today." > > XML, the Extensible Markup Language, is a W3C endorsed standard for > document markup. It provides a standard format for computer documents. > This format is so flexible that it can be customized for areas as > diverse as web sites, electronic data interchange, vector graphics, > genealogy, real estate listings, object serialization, wireless > devices, and voice mail systems. Because of that, XML is positioned to > be the key web application technology of the future. > > "In most new projects the question is no longer 'Whether XML' or 'Why > XML?' it's 'Why not XML?'," explains Elliotte Rusty Harold, coauthor of > "XML in a Nutshell." "XML has become as important to developers as > Java, Perl, or C. Actually it's probably more important. You can always > choose a different programming language, but there isn't any good > alternative to XML for standard data formats." > > "XML in a Nutshell" is a comprehensive guide to the rapidly growing > world of XML. It covers all aspects of XML, from the most basic syntax > rules, to the details of DTD creation, to the APIs you can use to read > and write XML documents in a variety of programming languages. > > Developers can either write their own programs that interact with, > massage, and manipulate the data in XML documents or they can use > off-the-shelf software like web browsers and text editors to work with > XML documents. Either choice gives them access to a wide range of free > libraries in a variety of languages that can read and write XML. > > "XML in a Nutshell" covers the fundamental rules that all XML documents > and authors must adhere to, detailing the grammar that specifies where > tags may be placed, what they must look like, which element names are > legal, how attributes attach to elements, and much more. > > Harold adds: "'XML in a Nutshell' is a complete introduction to the > state of the art in XML. Very few XML books even attempt to cover this > much material. This book is the most concentrated, cost-effective way > to educate yourself about XML." > > > Chapter 9, XPath, is available free online at: > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/xmlnut/chapter/ch09.html > > For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, > index, author bio, and samples, see: > http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/xmlnut/ > > For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: > ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/0596000588.jpg > > For an in-depth and real-life look at XML, catch Elliotte Rusty > Harold's tutorials at the O'Reilly Conference on Enterprise Java, March > 26-29, 2001 at the Westin Hotel in Santa Clara, California. > http://conferences.oreilly.com/java2001/ > > XML Fundamentals: > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/java2001/view/e_sess/1132 > > Processing XML with Java: > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/java2001/view/e_sess/1135 > > Register for your press pass at: > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/java2001/register?x-t=java2001.press > > > XML in a Nutshell > A Desktop Quick Reference > By Elliotte Rusty Harold & W. Scott Means > ISBN January 2001 > 0-596-00058-8, 480 pages, $29.95 (US) > order@oreilly.com > 1-800-998-9938 > http://www.oreilly.com > > # # # > > O'Reilly is a registered trademark of O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. All > other trademarks are property of their respective owners. > Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From jproctor at oit.umass.edu Sat Feb 3 13:19:42 2001 From: jproctor at oit.umass.edu (j proctor) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" In-Reply-To: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303E8F@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er j proctor wrote - > BTW: Where is everyone? Off discussin' things on OPL's ??? I think we > all should at least say Hi to the few new members who have joined our group > recently :) > > print "Hi!" if /Joined\s+Jax\.PM\s+recently/igo; Wait... If the rest of us are supposed to greet the new members, shouldn't you have used "unless" instead of "if"? And would it still work inside use timescale qw(:geologic); Enough screwing around. Time for me to go do homework. Hi, everybody. And the XML book doesn't look as interesting as Manning's new book, "Data Munging in Perl". j Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From sml at zfx.com Sat Feb 3 12:56:34 2001 From: sml at zfx.com (Steve Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" References: Message-ID: <3A7C5462.FF6@zfx.com> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Steve Lane wrote - j proctor wrote: > And would it still work inside > > use timescale qw(:geologic); i would hope that timescale.pm is smart enough to define "recently" correctly for all eras. > Enough screwing around. Time for me to go do homework. Hi, everybody. print map "hi, $_!\n", grep /Joined Jax\.PM recently/i, @jaxpm; > And the XML book doesn't look as interesting as Manning's new book, "Data > Munging in Perl". if i never have to deal with XML again i'll die happy. anyone have pro-or-con recommendations on the new Stein book on network programming? -- Steve Lane Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Sun Feb 4 12:33:14 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303E98@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - Just goes to show what I know?!? I did not know of either new book :( -----Original Message----- From: Steve Lane To: j proctor Cc: Jax Perl Mongers Sent: 2/3/01 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Steve Lane wrote - >> And the XML book doesn't look as interesting as Manning's new book, "Data >> Munging in Perl". > anyone have pro-or-con recommendations on the new Stein book > on network programming? -Sneex- :] Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From nate at campin.net Sun Feb 4 21:04:08 2001 From: nate at campin.net (Nate Campi) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" In-Reply-To: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303E98@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us>; from wcjones@exchange.fccj.org on Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 01:33:14PM -0500 References: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303E98@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> Message-ID: <20010204190408.C669@campin.net> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Nate Campi wrote - On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 01:33:14PM -0500, JONES, WILLIAM C wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Lane > To: j proctor > Cc: Jax Perl Mongers > Sent: 2/3/01 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [JaxPM] [NON-PERL] O'Reilly Releases "XML in a Nutshell" > > On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Steve Lane wrote - > > > >> And the XML book doesn't look as interesting as Manning's new book, "Data > >> Munging in Perl". > > > anyone have pro-or-con recommendations on the new Stein book > > on network programming? > -Sneex- :] Funny coincidence, I was just at the bookstore looking at the new Stein book this afternoon. You probably shouldn't put much stock in what a newbie like me says, but it looked like a regular "Stein". Clear, complete and easy to read. I didn't buy it, since I don't have a real need for that right now, but I suspect that it will end up on my bookshelf by summer. On a totally unrelated (but still perl related) note: a friend of mine at work created a cool perl network program that seriously sped up our data warehouse reporting (I work for Lycos now). A program would run for about 4 hours each day that (among other things) would request a "page id", which is (I think) a unique page on one of the lycos web sites. My friend put in a local perl "layer" that the program could make the request to, and it would get the page id and cache it for the next time it is requested. It sped up the process to about 45 minutes. The amazing thing about all this isn't the performance improvement, but the fact that the perl process grows until it takes about 4 gigs of RAM (the machine has 18 gigs). I just find it amazing that a perl process can get so large and stay so stable. He ties the hashes where he stores that data to dbms on disk in case of a crash. What a godsend perl is. "...making hard things possible" - Larry Wall I believe. -- Nate Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Tue Feb 6 07:07:09 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] FW: O'Reilly Network Launches ONLamp.com Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303EBA@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - Interesting - it does have the word Perl in it :) > ---------- > From: Denise Olliffe > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2001 4:53 PM > To: bill@fccj.org > Subject: O'Reilly Network Launches ONLamp.com > > News from the O'Reilly Network: > > February 1, 2001 > > ONLAMP.COM OFFERS SOLUTIONS FOR HIGH-PERFORMANCE WEB DEVELOPMENT New > Site Promotes Optimized, Integrated Use of Linux, Apache, MySQL and > Scripting Languages. > > O'Reilly Network has launched ONLamp.com, a web site promoting the > integrated use of several high-performance open source technologies > used for web development. The new site is being shown at LinuxWorld > Expo in New York this week. > > LAMP is an acronym describing a suite of powerful web development > tools: Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP, Perl, or Python. O'Reilly Network > has previously focused on these technologies individually, and now has > brought them together in one location to save time for developers. > > ONLamp.com will provide articles and resources related to web site > performance, development, security, Linux/BSD system administration, > Apache installation, Linux multimedia, and MySQL data management. > > The new site will feature developers/writers such as Noel Davis writing > the Linux Security Alerts column, Dave Phillips finding ingenious ways > to enhance Linux performance, and long-time PHP web developer Darrell > Brogdon. > > Derrick Story will manage the ONLamp editorial content, and Chris > Coleman, Open Source Editor, will work with developers to deliver a > steady stream of cutting-edge technology articles. > > ONLamp's reference section will include such resources as a directory > of important LAMP-related products, helpful tutorials, in-depth > columns by experts, industry analysis, and audio roundtables on key > issues. > > The term LAMP originated in Germany and is gaining currency among > North American developers as a shorthand for the suite of tools that > serious open source web developers use. > > While the acronym LAMP is relatively new, its technologies are not. > For example, IDC reports that Linux is currently used by 20 million > people worldwide. Apache is the most popular web server (source: > Netcraft survey). MySQL.com, reflecting the popularity of the database > software's use, receives 8.7 million of page views per month. > > Heavily-visited sites such as Amazon.com have long relied on Perl and a > host of other open source technologies. All of the O'Reilly and > O'Reilly Network sites, receiving a combined total of more than 3 > million unique visitors per month, also rely on the LAMP technologies. > > As the premier provider of open source books, online information and > technical conferences, O'Reilly has long been respected for its > expertise and support of these popular open source technologies. The > O'Reilly Network team, like O'Reilly & Associates' book publishing > team, is experienced at providing reliable, useful information, as > well as finding and recruiting leaders in the technical community to > share their expertise with O'Reilly developers. > > # # # > > Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From jproctor at oit.umass.edu Fri Feb 9 08:20:35 2001 From: jproctor at oit.umass.edu (j proctor) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er j proctor wrote - Kevin, I'm a little disappointed we had to hear about this second-hand. :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:31:02 -0600 From: Elaine -HFB- Ashton To: boston-pm@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: [Boston.pm] grab bag of fun Writing CGI Applications with Perl by Keving Meltzer (Hartford.pm ) and Brent Michalski (STL.pm) with a foreward by Herr Dr. Linkenstein has been published. It's about 500 pages, 2 colour ( a rather big deal in tech books ) that makes the code stand out nicely and absolutely cram packed with really useful examples...and pictures of Kevin's adorable kids :) I just got a copy, but if my unwillingness to give it away is any indication of it's CGI goodness... :) If nothing else, you gotta check out the cover close up. Give warm fuzzies to your not-so-local mongers who could use the post-book writing ego boosting of good reviews on amazon.com and bookpool.com, etc. They did a good :) Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Fri Feb 9 08:37:44 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F08@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - Yes, we know what you mean :) Everyone check out Kevin's book! -Sneex- :] -----Original Message----- Man, everyone got an advanced copy but me!!! It actually got back from the boundry on Tuesday, and didn't want to toot my own horn until I had a copy in hand. But, looks like Elaine tooted my horn. Er.. you know what I mean :) The book will actually be featured in B&N stores and Borders during the month of March I believe. It's all very exciting. There should also be a mention of Hartford.pm in the acks. I hope you all buy the book, and find it useful (the useful part is actually more important). We have a website, http://perlcgi-book.com, which will at some point have the code from the book on it. If you see the book and like it, let me (and everyone you know :). Cheers, Kevin Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From moochka at mediaone.net Fri Feb 9 11:06:08 2001 From: moochka at mediaone.net (Gene) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F08@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "Gene" wrote - Being new to the JAX Perl Mongers, how does one learn of these new books coming out as soon as you guys did? -----Original Message----- From: owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of JONES, WILLIAM C Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:38 AM To: 'jacksonville-pm-list@hfb.pm.org' Cc: 'perlguy@perlguy.com' Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - Yes, we know what you mean :) Everyone check out Kevin's book! -Sneex- :] -----Original Message----- Man, everyone got an advanced copy but me!!! It actually got back from the boundry on Tuesday, and didn't want to toot my own horn until I had a copy in hand. But, looks like Elaine tooted my horn. Er.. you know what I mean :) The book will actually be featured in B&N stores and Borders during the month of March I believe. It's all very exciting. There should also be a mention of Hartford.pm in the acks. I hope you all buy the book, and find it useful (the useful part is actually more important). We have a website, http://perlcgi-book.com, which will at some point have the code from the book on it. If you see the book and like it, let me (and everyone you know :). Cheers, Kevin Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Fri Feb 9 11:45:21 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F11@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - Well, I think The Perl Guy wrote the book :) (Me? I just sleep with the booksales ladies...) Just teasing! -Sneex- :] -----Original Message----- From: Gene To: JONES, WILLIAM C; 'jacksonville-pm-list@hfb.pm.org' Cc: perlguy@perlguy.com Sent: 2/9/01 12:06 PM Subject: RE: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) Being new to the JAX Perl Mongers, how does one learn of these new books coming out as soon as you guys did? -----Original Message----- From: owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of JONES, WILLIAM C Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:38 AM To: 'jacksonville-pm-list@hfb.pm.org' Cc: 'perlguy@perlguy.com' Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - Yes, we know what you mean :) Everyone check out Kevin's book! -Sneex- :] Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From cgronline at jaxcan.org Fri Feb 9 12:33:17 2001 From: cgronline at jaxcan.org (CGR Online) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] Require Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er CGR Online wrote - still a newbie here. Is there a way I can take all the sub routines and place them in a file of it's own and refer to them in the perl program. I've heard of use and require but not sure if that is what I would use if it's possable. synopsis I got a perl program with 5 million (slight exag) sub routines in it. I will create 2 or 3 more perl programs that will use the exact same routines in it. I want to be able to put the routines in a seperate file and refer to them as needed. Make sense? --- Sir Anvil www.christiangamers.org Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From sml at zfx.com Fri Feb 9 12:46:33 2001 From: sml at zfx.com (Steve Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] Require References: Message-ID: <3A843B09.31DF@zfx.com> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er Steve Lane wrote - if this is a short-term thing, i think require() is fine to use. just put your subs in a file called "WHATEVER.pl" (replace WHATEVER with a reasonable name, of course), add a "1;" statement at the end of the file (both use() and require() need this), and in your "driver" program, add: require 'WHATEVER.pl'; for a long-term solution, you should consider making a real module, making it object-oriented if at all appropriate, using use(), and possibly using Exporter if worthwhile. feel free to ask if you want more info on making a module, or type `perldoc perlmod` (actually, run that command and read the doc before doing anything else). CGR Online wrote: > Is there a way I can take all the sub routines and place them in a file of > it's own and refer to them in the perl program. I've heard of use and > require but not sure if that is what I would use if it's possable. > > synopsis > > I got a perl program with 5 million (slight exag) sub routines in it. > I will create 2 or 3 more perl programs that will use the exact same > routines in it. > I want to be able to put the routines in a seperate file and refer to them > as needed. -- Steve Lane Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From jproctor at oit.umass.edu Sat Feb 10 12:12:29 2001 From: jproctor at oit.umass.edu (j proctor) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] New Perl Book (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er j proctor wrote - > Being new to the JAX Perl Mongers, how does one learn of these new books > coming out as soon as you guys did? A. Hang around the Perl Mongers awhile, go to the conferences, etc., and you get to know the authors. B. Hang out on other Perl Mongers lists. I'm in western Massachusetts, so I'm on the Boston.pm, Hartford.pm, and a couple of other very low traffic lists (Albany.pm, HudsonValley.pm, Pioneer Valley.pm) that are all in my area. Since there's really no geographical requirement, you can join any list in the world. Boston has a lot of the people that write the books and present sessions at the conferences; they're pretty good about posting when interesting new things happen. There's a lot of other traffic, too (mostly in spurts), so don't join just for book announcements. C. Some publishers actually have mailing lists to announce books. Our fearless leader, Sneex, is on at least O'Reilly's list. D. Community web sites (Slashdot, Kuro5hin, Use Perl, PerlMonks, etc.) all mention stuff like that occasionally. Bookselling sites (especially good ones for techy stuff like fatbrain and bookpool) will respond to general searches for Perl (or whatever) with books that have been announced by the publishing companies, but aren't available yet. Try it sometime. E. Pure, random luck. Welcome to the wonderful world of Perl. j Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Sat Feb 10 12:34:31 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] My PGP Key Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F26@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All :) Someone has been transversing the Internet acting like me in various capacities - downloading software, signing up for lists, giving out my personal and professional contact information and what not. Therefore I have found it necessary to incorporate more security into my various on-line activities. Sorry for the trouble this may cause you in the long run, but I must protect my interests. Best; - -Sneex- :] - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use Comment: -Sneex- :] mQGiBDp+u6oRBADav9EUX/7rObFnRkWoAA/ebj1Zzktf7agWGM/60qeJAj49b+Ud lgeou+VNjlU1+9c0hmOS5KEH4+0Z5zMPKb2k6aoHvkaWfa+UCWx175GAdg+lxV3x IvvB6t3xOnFLvKKTq3PA1wYkAxUHNeszffv9g4yEotlMZ3Co7cwNF5qTwwCg/5YJ 1wPR50AH22/c2+tCd/PPfdED/1lF2LuOsp8KCz6lBanuR4wAlm25Fl8CSMvclu9Y rVLWUwL5Os0WG7QUqUPcg+tGzgxiBq6RnAKb7kBJXFEUbvWaebELihkWkTR6Eo2U a3HLzj3EL87ArcQSp7rLPdEbmC4BLdoNcVOr1CbRdhxL/Y7cl8H6C/qGcwxs3jSM 0S4pA/9xRgM7A3mAlMXr7oznUIh+x2ruEEoY56dM9fFBPzltlRnAsGZwxgciSbqy 1HJZyS+T/nNsweL517Qw4DBLRf/2t9BzErNu+EqMyZI6yaNpzOUb+Tkscf1yKJFu i1n4MzidUL1Quhudq7IeMiimhmKwAEZ6cHTi2gXy9EydNA11e7QaQmlsbCBKb25l cyA8c25lZXhAdXNhLm5ldD6JAFgEEBECABgFAjp+u6oICwMJCAcCAQoCGQEFGwMA AAAACgkQ9EhO+0BO110EwACgndEZNNEUbp7w0zf8rMAMyQ3lPNEAmwSXhcx8Q6kg Nd/O3WuHr5ac75onuQINBDp+u6oQCAD2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF6PlTETlPtvFu uUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ+PVZX9x2Uk89 PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarTW56NoKVyOtQa 8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY7288kjwEPwpVsY jY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy1obEAxnIByl6 ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XpMgs7AAICCAD0lFBi +FwzGMQ+K+7FldZ+NQpZUVGKWl2HpwfxyNMWXzBJ3ubDjx0qrnEaSBxiYuEHiYNA PS8ue8rY1bPWTj1AjLRTVqquvQD0iLp2fbBREnlmOeO8qqIuMN9CFU2/LpaBb+ZZ Mdh+cjNKnt0gn4w8XKO0KeweFDEhBFdJC+mFoZ/rwipemXX1StX51drNO/CCuO4t XxLqq0fIePLt8attme7jp9HK+PFowwBdlia/CVZhCLs9wWgbLh9JdAryVUMuBth/ euLM4MGTinVkwSt7umWXecgBY0+B9kJtDDeVlH5EAdS6rqxgP4+o7ExBRbY17Tps Q6929DU12DqezTD4iQBMBBgRAgAMBQI6fruqBRsMAAAAAAoJEPRITvtATtddE2IA oNCr7ZJdrErkX+lPWIQqynKqjvvMAJ44SbUYoL5umY2/Q8Lk13lgHyOD/g== =xKvE - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use Comment: -Sneex- :] iQA/AwUBOoWHbPRITvtATtddEQK2VgCeLToO0iQdEktxookj6DtKl7V9rIYAoPMK ds+mEUrEn34JX358zO90Awom =p7VD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Sat Feb 10 12:58:52 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] My PGP Key Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F29@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - :) A few have asked what does this mean - well, it means if you have 'official' business you wish to conduct with me with regard to Jax.PM then you will need to digitally sign your e-mail. My public key is available at ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Also, it is included below; and again, I apologize for any inconvienence this may cause you. -Sneex- :] -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use Comment: -Sneex- :] mQGiBDp+u6oRBADav9EUX/7rObFnRkWoAA/ebj1Zzktf7agWGM/60qeJAj49b+Ud lgeou+VNjlU1+9c0hmOS5KEH4+0Z5zMPKb2k6aoHvkaWfa+UCWx175GAdg+lxV3x IvvB6t3xOnFLvKKTq3PA1wYkAxUHNeszffv9g4yEotlMZ3Co7cwNF5qTwwCg/5YJ 1wPR50AH22/c2+tCd/PPfdED/1lF2LuOsp8KCz6lBanuR4wAlm25Fl8CSMvclu9Y rVLWUwL5Os0WG7QUqUPcg+tGzgxiBq6RnAKb7kBJXFEUbvWaebELihkWkTR6Eo2U a3HLzj3EL87ArcQSp7rLPdEbmC4BLdoNcVOr1CbRdhxL/Y7cl8H6C/qGcwxs3jSM 0S4pA/9xRgM7A3mAlMXr7oznUIh+x2ruEEoY56dM9fFBPzltlRnAsGZwxgciSbqy 1HJZyS+T/nNsweL517Qw4DBLRf/2t9BzErNu+EqMyZI6yaNpzOUb+Tkscf1yKJFu i1n4MzidUL1Quhudq7IeMiimhmKwAEZ6cHTi2gXy9EydNA11e7QaQmlsbCBKb25l cyA8c25lZXhAdXNhLm5ldD6JAFgEEBECABgFAjp+u6oICwMJCAcCAQoCGQEFGwMA AAAACgkQ9EhO+0BO110EwACgndEZNNEUbp7w0zf8rMAMyQ3lPNEAmwSXhcx8Q6kg Nd/O3WuHr5ac75onuQINBDp+u6oQCAD2Qle3CH8IF3KiutapQvMF6PlTETlPtvFu uUs4INoBp1ajFOmPQFXz0AfGy0OplK33TGSGSfgMg71l6RfUodNQ+PVZX9x2Uk89 PY3bzpnhV5JZzf24rnRPxfx2vIPFRzBhznzJZv8V+bv9kV7HAarTW56NoKVyOtQa 8L9GAFgr5fSI/VhOSdvNILSd5JEHNmszbDgNRR0PfIizHHxbLY7288kjwEPwpVsY jY67VYy4XTjTNP18F1dDox0YbN4zISy1Kv884bEpQBgRjXyEpwpy1obEAxnIByl6 ypUM2Zafq9AKUJsCRtMIPWakXUGfnHy9iUsiGSa6q6Jew1XpMgs7AAICCAD0lFBi +FwzGMQ+K+7FldZ+NQpZUVGKWl2HpwfxyNMWXzBJ3ubDjx0qrnEaSBxiYuEHiYNA PS8ue8rY1bPWTj1AjLRTVqquvQD0iLp2fbBREnlmOeO8qqIuMN9CFU2/LpaBb+ZZ Mdh+cjNKnt0gn4w8XKO0KeweFDEhBFdJC+mFoZ/rwipemXX1StX51drNO/CCuO4t XxLqq0fIePLt8attme7jp9HK+PFowwBdlia/CVZhCLs9wWgbLh9JdAryVUMuBth/ euLM4MGTinVkwSt7umWXecgBY0+B9kJtDDeVlH5EAdS6rqxgP4+o7ExBRbY17Tps Q6929DU12DqezTD4iQBMBBgRAgAMBQI6fruqBRsMAAAAAAoJEPRITvtATtddE2IA oNCr7ZJdrErkX+lPWIQqynKqjvvMAJ44SbUYoL5umY2/Q8Lk13lgHyOD/g== =xKvE -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From jproctor at oit.umass.edu Sat Feb 10 17:15:27 2001 From: jproctor at oit.umass.edu (j proctor) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] My PGP Key In-Reply-To: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F26@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> Message-ID: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er j proctor wrote - > Someone has been transversing the Internet acting like me > in various capacities - downloading software, signing up > for lists, giving out my personal and professional contact > information and what not. Therefore I have found it > necessary to incorporate more security into my various > on-line activities. Sorry for the trouble this may > cause you in the long run, but I must protect my interests. The obvious response, considering my own laziness regarding verification of the key and its provenance against a recognized certificate authority, is to ask with a smirk how we know it's really you who sent us the key? The *real* Sneex could be on vacation this weekend, and not see the impostor on the list until next week. And having just spent several hours discussing the various shortcomings of modern host and network security methods, and in light of a suspicion of attempted identity theft, is there any way we can ever really tell the difference? Similarly, can I trust that Verisign (or whoever issued the certificate) would be able to detect an impostor? It's elephants all the way down! j Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments... From wcjones at exchange.fccj.org Thu Feb 15 13:34:24 2001 From: wcjones at exchange.fccj.org (JONES, WILLIAM C) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:02:42 2004 Subject: [JaxPM] [Non-Perl] O'Reilly Releases "Learning XML" Message-ID: <3037C11AF59BD411B47600D0B72CE748303F83@exchmail.fccj.cc.fl.us> On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er "JONES, WILLIAM C" wrote - [The below posting has very little or no Perl content. This posting by Jax.PM Leader: -Sneex- :] -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe To: bill@fccj.org Sent: 2/15/01 12:29 PM Subject: O'Reilly Releases "Learning XML" For immediate release Review copies available Contact: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext 339 or deniseo@oreilly.com XML is Like Digital Tupperware Says "Learning XML" Author "XML is quickly becoming the container of choice for electronic information, already with a huge base of support from open source developers to international banking institutions," says Erik T. Ray, author of the just-released "Learning XML" (O'Reilly, US $34.95). "Like digital Tupperware, it is configurable to fit your data perfectly, while remaining a universal and flexible format that can be shared by many applications. Following the explosive popularity of HTML, XML will go further to break down barriers to global communication and data sharing." XML (Extensible Markup Language) is a flexible way to create "self-describing data"--and to share both the format and the data on the World Wide Web, intranets, and elsewhere. "XML is an unprecedented effort by a consortium of organizations and companies to create an information framework for the 21st century that HTML can only hint at," says Ray. "If you are at all involved in web development or information management, you'll need to know about XML." The arrival of support for XML in browsers and authoring tools has followed a long period of intense hype. Major databases, authoring tools (including Microsoft's Office 2000), and browsers are now committed to XML support. In "Learning XML," Eric T. Ray explains XML and its capabilities succinctly and professionally, with references to real-life projects and other cogent examples. The book shows the purpose of XML markup itself, the CSS and XSL styling languages, and the XLink and XPointer specifications for creating rich link structures. For writers producing XML documents, this book demystifies files and the process of creating them with the appropriate structure and format. Designers will learn what parts of XML are most helpful to their team and will get started on creating Document Type Descriptions. For programmers, the book makes syntax and structures clear. It also discusses the stylesheets needed for viewing documents in the next generation of browsers, databases, and other devices. "In just a few years, XML has captured the imagination of technology pundits and industry mavens alike," says Ray. "The world is ready to move to a new level of connectedness. The volume of information within our reach is staggering, but the limitations of existing technology can make it difficult to access. XML may be the answer. It is destined to be the grease on the wheels of the information infrastructure." Chapter 2, Markup and Core Concepts, is available free online at: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnxml/chapter/ch02.html For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, index, author bio, and samples, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/learnxml/ For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/0596000464.jpg An article by the author Eric T. Ray, "Organizing XML with Entities," can be read here: http://xml.oreilly.com/news/learningxml_0101.html Learning XML Creating Self-Describing Data Erik T. Ray February 2001 ISBN 0-596-00046-4, 350 pages, $34.95 (US) order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com # # # O'Reilly is a registered trademark of O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners. Jax.PM Moderator's Note: This message was posted to the Jacksonville Perl Monger's Group listserv. The group manager can be reached at -- owner-jacksonville-pm-list@pm.org to whom send all praises, complaints, or comments...