[pm-h] Marriage License Data

[Robert Stone]

Greetings,

tl;dr - While the form likely connected to a database/datastore and there
is no way to retrieve that, the wayback machine archived a lot (but not
all) of the data in another format.

*The Bad News*

So for funsies I took a look at this form:

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And the HTML for it:

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>From this we can see that the information entered is POST'ed back to the
server at yearlastwild.asp to handle the request.  Just to be absolutely
certain, I went ahead and submitted a request monitoring the network
traffic:

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And there we see the post request.  That ASP script was likely connecting
to some sort of database to retrieve and then format the data for
presentation.

Just to be SUPER certain there wasn't a whole huge blob of javascript
representing the dataset (which would be incredibly unlikely, but you never
know...):

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There largest request is 27.7 KB, and it's for a font.

*The Good News*

Well, then, let's see if the marriage data is presented in any other format
on the site, like a big huge list.  Crazier things have happened...

https://web.archive.org/web/20030208012802/http://vienici.com:80/abmomarr.html

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If we scroll down we can see Washington County:

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And if we select the He- we can see the same entry for Henry S:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030219131906/http://vienici.com:80/moabs/xmarrwash/xhe-j.html

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Which actually matches the data from yearlastwild.asp:

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So it seems for washing county there is some data and possibly more from
the Washing County GenWeb.  I do see for other counties there is much more
data, such as Franklin County:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030407195843/http://www.vienici.com:80/mofran/vB/p201225.html

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So with some work and a whole bunch of parsing you could recreate a good
chunk!  Of course, I'd probably hunt high and low to see if someone else
had this dataset I could use (or buy) but nice to know at least parts of it
live on.

Hopefully you find the above helpful.

Best Regards,
Robert Stone


On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

>
> This is an archive of a website that went dead in 2011:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20090609191130/http://www.vienic
> i.com:80/moabs/lookups.html
>
> The 3rd search box (link) takes you to:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20090306211924/http://www.vienic
> i.com:80/moabs/yearlastwild.asp
>
> The search does not work on that page, for obvious reasons.  I have looked
> at
> the page source and decided the search was run by javascript, but I could
> be
> wrong about that.  If you are snowed in and have some time to devote to
> this,
> what I want to know is what format was the marriage license data in on this
> guys server.  I don't think that can be told from the page source, but I
> thought
> I would ask you guys.  Perhaps you would need the ASP file to tell that??
> It was not a huge amount of data, so it could have been in almost any
> format.
>
> The reason I am asking is because we are trying to find that data 6 years
> after the guy died.
>
> I'm pretty sure he had an account at the Wayback Machine, and he may have
> stored
> the data there, in addition to other places.
>
>
> Mike
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