[pm-h] mod_perl2, plack, dancer

[Julian Brown]

Do you think this type of discussion is worthy of a future meeting?

Julian

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Robert Stone <drzigman at drzigman.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> My only qualm with Mojolicious is the short deprecation cycle and how
> often you have to update your code to work with the latest and greatest (or
> lock on an older version).  However, I do *love* their testing framework so
> that's a major plus.
>
> Nowadays I use Dancer for just about everything and I've been quite happy
> with it.  For pure API applications I tend to daemonize with lighttpd, for
> website type things I generally use Apache.  I admit there is a certain
> performance hit for not using a reverse proxy to starman (or related) but
> the ease of management has outweighed any of those concerns for me.
>
> My WebSocket library uses AnyEvent and all of the related modules
> (AnyEvent::Handle etc) and I demonize that directly without something like
> Apache/Plack/Starman/etc.
>
> I think the real answer is that "It depends on what you are doing."  If
> you are building a full website and you need a templating engine something
> like Dancer/Mojo tend to be the best choices.
>
> I'm always happy to discuss these sorts of things though and I could share
> the testing library I created for Dancer that makes it easy to test apps
> similar to how Test::Mojo works.  It lets you use the Test::WWW::Mechanize
> library against Dancer apps and has always worked nicely for me.
>
> Best Regards,
> Robert Stone
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanx for the reply Mark.
>>
>> Just because it is old, does not make it correct.
>>
>> In mod_perl2, I write a series of verbs that take values and do things
>> all compiled into Apache, what is faster?
>>
>> I will stipulate the easy aspects of Mojo.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Mark Allen <mrallen1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Because it's not 2004 anymore?
>>>
>>> Seriously, it couldn't be easier to write a nice web layer using
>>> Mojolicious::Lite (yeah I was a Dancer guy back in the day but I'm all Mojo
>>> these days not that I'm writing a bunch of Perl for $dayjob.)
>>>
>>> All you need to do is `cpanm Mojolicious` and start implementing route
>>> handlers. It even will handle turning your hashes into JSON automagically.
>>>
>>> I will be out of the country for the June meeting, but it would be fun
>>> to do a presentation about Mojo for July if people are interested in that.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:02 AM, Julian Brown <jlbprof at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Per my previous mail, I will prepare for J.D.'s challenge.
>>>
>>> But I would like to have a discussion on the reasons one would pick
>>> dancer or some plack layer over mod_perl2.
>>>
>>> We could later even do some benchmarking, but we have to get a suite of
>>> tasks to benchmark.
>>>
>>> Julian
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