From mikeflan at att.net  Sat Aug  8 06:49:47 2015
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 08:49:47 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fwd: Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
In-Reply-To: <55C5F22B.7000209@att.net>
References: <55C5F22B.7000209@att.net>
Message-ID: <55C608FB.7070708@att.net>


I'm just pass this along in case any of you
are interested in this.  It has something to do
with PAR::_run_member using a filehandle opened in binmode.

binmode DATA, ':crlf';
would reportedly fix it, but I did
s/[\r\n]+$//;
in my code instead.  That fixed it for me.

This is apparently a Windows issue that does not affect Linux,
I think.




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Subject: 	Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
Date: 	Sat, 08 Aug 2015 07:12:27 -0500
From: 	Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
To: 	par at perl.org
CC: 	shawn.laffan at unsw.edu.au




On 8/8/2015 1:36 AM, par-digest-help at perl.org wrote:
> This is a more general problem than PAR.
>
> I've had similar issues with input files when I was alternating 
> between cygwin and normal windows in the distant past. 
> Data::Section::Simple also does the same thing, in that it does not 
> translate crlf endings when loading from a data block on linux.  I 
> expect there are many other ways of hitting this issue.
>
> The solution I use is to remove the crlf line endings in my code, e.g.:
>
> s/[\r\n]+$// for @data;
>
> or, more verbosely but more clearly:
>
> for my $item (@data) {
>     $item =~ s/[\r\n]+$//;
> }
>
> Regards,
> Shawn.


Thanks for that fix.  I was too lazy to carry this forward
until I saw your e-mail.  Of course it worked.  The script
works in both PAR and regular Perl when putting that regex
in there.

Thanks to everyone for all the help.


For my records I have summarized most of the e-mails on this
subject below.


Mike




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Subject:
Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
Date:
8/2/2015 12:51 PM

To:
par at perl.org



I have a script that runs fine in Perl64, but when I do

pp -o uploadfiles.exe inputfile.pl

and try to run uploadfiles.exe it opens a prompt
box and tries to connect to a HostGator account,
but after a few seconds gives
"login authentication failed".

The script uses this:

use strict;
use warnings;
use File::Find;
use Net::FTP::Recursive;
$| = 1; #Autoflush STDOUT


Anybody have any ideas on why this is not working?
This is Activestate Perl 5.16.3 built for
MSWin32-x64.


Mike

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Subject:
Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Roderich Schupp <roderich.schupp at gmail.com>
Date:
8/2/2015 2:03 PM

To:
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
CC:
"par at perl.org" <par at perl.org>


On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net 
<mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:

    The script uses this:


Not enough information. For instance, how does it "open a prompt box"?
Try cutting the script down to a minimal example that exhibits the problem.

Cheers, Roderich


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Subject:
Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
Date:
8/2/2015 6:09 PM

To:
Roderich Schupp <roderich.schupp at gmail.com>
CC:
"par at perl.org" <par at perl.org>




In Windows when you double click on a par exe file it opens
a command prompt box to show the results of the script.

I guess a minimalist script would be as follow:

use strict;
use warnings;
use Net::FTP::Recursive;

my $ip="142.146.2.103";
my $username="user";
my $pass="pass";

my $ftp = Net::FTP::Recursive->new($ip, Passive => 1, Debug => 0);

$ftp->login($username, $pass) or die $ftp->message;

print "All done.\n\a";

__END__


Interestingly, this seems to work in the par exe created
from this file.


OK, I haven't figured it out 100% yet, but it appears to have
something to do with the newline at the end of each of these
lines:

__DATA__
BkmTNBOhAQjsn3YUJWA9cw2JDp8lcw
Jx7ecihoLGsWidVUgRDl5CI38mpLbF
23X7p1HDSwXgGg4z8xSNshVBQScLCB
MkNyVS4Dnkx55TsW1VfCVm7niOU777

In my Windows Perl environment when I count
22 characters forward, I get the character I expect
to get.  In the par environment, when I count
22 characters forward I get the character at position 21
instead (if it goes past the end of one of the lines).  Perhaps
this has something to do with a newline being interpreted as
\n\r or \n or \cJ or whatever.

I'm probably going to have an ugly work-around for this.  Or
perhaps I can come up with a more elegant work-around when
using par.  We will see.

Thanks for your help.


Mike


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Subject:
Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Roderich Schupp <roderich.schupp at gmail.com>
Date:
8/3/2015 9:44 AM

To:
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
CC:
"par at perl.org" <par at perl.org>


On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net 
<mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:

    OK, I haven't figured it out 100% yet, but it appears to have
    something to do with the newline at the end of each of these
    lines:

    __DATA__
    BkmTNBOhAQjsn3YUJWA9cw2JDp8lcw


Good observation! I packed the following script (and checked that it has 
Windows CRLF line endings)

--- snip ---
use strict;
use warnings;
use Data::Dumper;
$Data::Dumper::Useqq = 1;
my @data = <DATA>;
print Dumper(\@data);
__DATA__
fooy
bar
quux
--- snip ---

$ perl data.pl <http://data.pl>
$VAR1 = [
           "foo\n",
           "bar\n",
           "quux\n"
         ];

but when I pack it

$ pp -o data.exe data.pl <http://data.pl>
$ .\data.exe
$VAR1 = [
           "foo\r\n",
           "bar\r\n",
           "quux\r\n"
         ];

I checked the script as packed into data.exe and it has its CRLF endings 
intact.
But the hack that's used to actually run it (i.e. PAR::_run_member) uses 
a filehandle opened in binmode.
Looks like the implicit DATA filehandle inherits this setting somehow.

I'll have to think some more whether changing PAR::_run_member might 
have side effects.

Cheers, Roderich



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Subject:
Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
Date:
8/3/2015 5:33 PM

To:
Roderich Schupp <roderich.schupp at gmail.com>
CC:
"par at perl.org" <par at perl.org>




Thanks for confirming that.  Chomp certainly doesn't fix
the problem.  Oddly I couldn't get the variable I wanted
no matter what I did!  I always got the variable in front of
or behind the one I wanted, even though I only moved the
array index by one.

I finally gave up and removed all the newlines.  I just
put all the data on one line now.

It's a bit frustrating, but I have my fix.
I'm surprised I was the one to point this out.
Must be very few of us Windows par users.


Mike



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Subject:
Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Roderich Schupp <roderich.schupp at gmail.com>
Date:
8/4/2015 9:03 AM

To:
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
CC:
"par at perl.org" <par at perl.org>


On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net 
<mailto:mikeflan at att.net>> wrote:

    Thanks for confirming that.  Chomp certainly doesn't fix
    the problem.


chomp won't help, in my example it will only get you from

$VAR1 = [
           "foo\r\n",
           "bar\r\n",
           "quux\r\n"
         ];

to

$VAR1 = [
           "foo\r",
           "bar\r",
           "quux\r"
         ];

By default, chomp doesn't strip CR LF, as $/ is "\n" even on Windows.
Reading a file on Windows in non-binmode will convert CR LF to "\n".



My guess would be that the majority of PAR users is on Windows, but 
using __DATA__ is rare.
Or at least using the data in a way that is susceptible to CRLF v LF 
corruption.

Cheers, Roderich


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Subject:
Re: Par not working on Net::FTP::Recursive Script
From:
Shawn Laffan <shawn.laffan at unsw.edu.au>
Date:
8/3/2015 6:44 PM

To:
<par at perl.org>




On 4/08/2015 8:33, Mike Flannigan wrote:


This is a more general problem than PAR.

I've had similar issues with input files when I was alternating between 
cygwin and normal windows in the distant past. Data::Section::Simple 
also does the same thing, in that it does not translate crlf endings 
when loading from a data block on linux.  I expect there are many other 
ways of hitting this issue.

The solution I use is to remove the crlf line endings in my code, e.g.:

s/[\r\n]+$// for @data;

or, more verbosely but more clearly:

for my $item (@data) {
     $item =~ s/[\r\n]+$//;
}

Regards,
Shawn.


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No worries Mike.

After a bit more thought, the whole process might be simplified by 
adding the :crlf layer to the DATA handle in your code.  This is set by 
default on windows, but not on linux.

e.g.:

binmode DATA, ':crlf';

while (my $line = <DATA>) {
   do_stuff($line);
}


A few more details are at http://perldoc.perl.org/PerlIO.html#DESCRIPTION

Regards,
Shawn.
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Aug 14 05:53:54 2015
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 07:53:54 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Notes for August Houston.pm meeting are on-line
Message-ID: <20150814075354.67bd14c6@cygnus>

The notes for last night's meeting at Hostgator are up.
http://houston.pm.org/talks/2015talks/1508Talk/

Soon, it will be time to start looking for a topic for September.

G. Wade
-- 
Sufficiently encapsulated magic is technology.   -- Michael Schwern

From flbaker at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 21 14:15:23 2015
From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:15:23 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PHP and mod Perl
Message-ID: <55D794EB.8090101@sbcglobal.net>

Hi:

I need to run some php to update a facebook page.

I have installed php and read a lot about that, but can't seem to get 
php to run. Can someone point me to where I can get a good discussion 
about configuration?

My server is windows XP running apache 2.2 and mod perl.

Fraser

From estrabd at gmail.com  Fri Aug 21 14:26:37 2015
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:26:37 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PHP and mod Perl
In-Reply-To: <55D794EB.8090101@sbcglobal.net>
References: <55D794EB.8090101@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <C453EFBF-0461-4135-9AA2-A025659992A9@gmail.com>

You need to call a PHP script as part of mod_perl response to an http request?

Brett



> On Aug 21, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Fraser Baker via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I need to run some php to update a facebook page.
> 
> I have installed php and read a lot about that, but can't seem to get php to run. Can someone point me to where I can get a good discussion about configuration?
> 
> My server is windows XP running apache 2.2 and mod perl.
> 
> Fraser
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/

From cblanc at dionysius.com  Fri Aug 21 16:58:50 2015
From: cblanc at dionysius.com (Chris Blanc)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 18:58:50 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] PHP and mod Perl
In-Reply-To: <55D794EB.8090101@sbcglobal.net>
References: <55D794EB.8090101@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CALMN4YqfcDCMqbr+VQ-ZxcPFdnZeuE1HeFxVW132xYhC=DcO=g@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe this could help:

http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/42069

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Fraser Baker via Houston
<houston at pm.org> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I need to run some php to update a facebook page.
>
> I have installed php and read a lot about that, but can't seem to get php to
> run. Can someone point me to where I can get a good discussion about
> configuration?
>
> My server is windows XP running apache 2.2 and mod perl.
>
> Fraser
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/



-- 
http://www.dionysius.com/

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 23 15:38:34 2015
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:38:34 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Topics for September  meeting at cPanel.
Message-ID: <20150823173834.2e55a99b@cygnus>

Out next meeting is about 3 weeks away on Sept 10. We'll be meeting at
cPanel this time.

Does anyone have a topic they would like to present or would like to
see? Feel free to choose something from the Topics list at
https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-topics-list

If a topic to present, email the list or me.
If you have a topic you would like to see, email the list.

As always, we have people available to help anyone who comes to the
meeting with questions on Perl, general programming, or their own
project. So, some of the time can be spent in discussions.

G. Wade
-- 
A 'language' is a dialect with an army.

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Aug 27 15:39:40 2015
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:40 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
Message-ID: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>

I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical meeting.

* Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
  - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to take
    all of the time.<grin/>)
* Anything you would like to see someone else present?
* Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?

* We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.

What do you want to see?

G. Wade
-- 
Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"

From julian at jlbprof.com  Thu Aug 27 16:59:11 2015
From: julian at jlbprof.com (Julian Brown)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:59:11 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
In-Reply-To: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
References: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CAMzD1SpLHgRzJpQUukx4kpNSoee0b7z_hVwwnsX3ZQ41BWMcgg@mail.gmail.com>

I could do 10-15 minutes on some timeframe classes I have been working on.

It involves time series in various time frames such as 1 hour, 2 hour,
monthly etc.

Julian

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston <houston at pm.org
> wrote:

> I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical meeting.
>
> * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
>   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to take
>     all of the time.<grin/>)
> * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
> * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
>
> * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
>
> What do you want to see?
>
> G. Wade
> --
> Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From me at eboxr.com  Thu Aug 27 17:39:01 2015
From: me at eboxr.com (Nicolas)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
In-Reply-To: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
References: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CAKvG0STSzVPNoeyU0RxdZY3aCjrSTCXY-L5_R+vensytKAvaQQ@mail.gmail.com>

I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?

2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston <houston at pm.org>:

> I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical meeting.
>
> * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
>   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to take
>     all of the time.<grin/>)
> * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
> * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
>
> * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
>
> What do you want to see?
>
> G. Wade
> --
> Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Aug 27 20:38:09 2015
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:38:09 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
In-Reply-To: <CAKvG0STSzVPNoeyU0RxdZY3aCjrSTCXY-L5_R+vensytKAvaQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
	<CAKvG0STSzVPNoeyU0RxdZY3aCjrSTCXY-L5_R+vensytKAvaQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20150827223809.599d5e43@cygnus>

With Julian and Nicolas, we now have two short talks.

We might be able to fit in one more.

Julian and Nicolas, could you send me a title for each of your talks,
so I can announce it on the site? Thanks.

G. Wade

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:

> I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?
> 
> 2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
> <houston at pm.org>:
> 
> > I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical
> > meeting.
> >
> > * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
> >   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to
> > take all of the time.<grin/>)
> > * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
> > * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
> >
> > * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
> >
> > What do you want to see?
> >
> > G. Wade
> > --
> > Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >


-- 
Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
                                                   -- Alvy Ray Smith

From me at eboxr.com  Thu Aug 27 21:15:10 2015
From: me at eboxr.com (Nicolas)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:15:10 -0700
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
In-Reply-To: <20150827223809.599d5e43@cygnus>
References: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
	<CAKvG0STSzVPNoeyU0RxdZY3aCjrSTCXY-L5_R+vensytKAvaQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150827223809.599d5e43@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CAKvG0SSBs2P0FKPvvtEfJBRDnRiA+q7t7hY_FWO6pSN87aU+Dg@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the title for my talk *?from YAPC::EU at Houston.pm"*

2015-08-27 21:38 GMT-06:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston <houston at pm.org>:

> With Julian and Nicolas, we now have two short talks.
>
> We might be able to fit in one more.
>
> Julian and Nicolas, could you send me a title for each of your talks,
> so I can announce it on the site? Thanks.
>
> G. Wade
>
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
> Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
>
> > I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?
> >
> > 2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
> > <houston at pm.org>:
> >
> > > I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical
> > > meeting.
> > >
> > > * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
> > >   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to
> > > take all of the time.<grin/>)
> > > * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
> > > * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
> > >
> > > * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
> > >
> > > What do you want to see?
> > >
> > > G. Wade
> > > --
> > > Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Houston mailing list
> > > Houston at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> > >
>
>
> --
> Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
>                                                    -- Alvy Ray Smith
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From julian at jlbprof.com  Fri Aug 28 08:54:57 2015
From: julian at jlbprof.com (Julian Brown)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:54:57 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
In-Reply-To: <CAKvG0SSBs2P0FKPvvtEfJBRDnRiA+q7t7hY_FWO6pSN87aU+Dg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20150827173940.58078dae@cygnus>
	<CAKvG0STSzVPNoeyU0RxdZY3aCjrSTCXY-L5_R+vensytKAvaQQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20150827223809.599d5e43@cygnus>
	<CAKvG0SSBs2P0FKPvvtEfJBRDnRiA+q7t7hY_FWO6pSN87aU+Dg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzD1Spz-TsJgkepG3zjm6AK_H6bQgopKcs-1bgeM0K8WXhdog@mail.gmail.com>

How about "Time Progressions with strings and DateTime"?

I can expand on DateTime and extend out to maybe 30 minutes if you want.

Julian



On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org>
wrote:

> Here is the title for my talk *?from YAPC::EU at Houston.pm"*
>
> 2015-08-27 21:38 GMT-06:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston <houston at pm.org>:
>
>> With Julian and Nicolas, we now have two short talks.
>>
>> We might be able to fit in one more.
>>
>> Julian and Nicolas, could you send me a title for each of your talks,
>> so I can announce it on the site? Thanks.
>>
>> G. Wade
>>
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
>> Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?
>> >
>> > 2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
>> > <houston at pm.org>:
>> >
>> > > I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical
>> > > meeting.
>> > >
>> > > * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
>> > >   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to
>> > > take all of the time.<grin/>)
>> > > * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
>> > > * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
>> > >
>> > > * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
>> > >
>> > > What do you want to see?
>> > >
>> > > G. Wade
>> > > --
>> > > Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Houston mailing list
>> > > Houston at pm.org
>> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>> > >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
>>                                                    -- Alvy Ray Smith
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
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From msuliman at ieee.org  Fri Aug 28 14:53:54 2015
From: msuliman at ieee.org (Modather Suliman)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 16:53:54 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
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I would like to see someone presenting about:
 - your experience about organizing Perl project code.

thanks,
-modather

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Julian Brown via Houston <houston at pm.org>
wrote:

> How about "Time Progressions with strings and DateTime"?
>
> I can expand on DateTime and extend out to maybe 30 minutes if you want.
>
> Julian
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Here is the title for my talk *?from YAPC::EU at Houston.pm"*
>>
>> 2015-08-27 21:38 GMT-06:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston <houston at pm.org>:
>>
>>> With Julian and Nicolas, we now have two short talks.
>>>
>>> We might be able to fit in one more.
>>>
>>> Julian and Nicolas, could you send me a title for each of your talks,
>>> so I can announce it on the site? Thanks.
>>>
>>> G. Wade
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
>>> Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?
>>> >
>>> > 2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
>>> > <houston at pm.org>:
>>> >
>>> > > I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September technical
>>> > > meeting.
>>> > >
>>> > > * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
>>> > >   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise not to
>>> > > take all of the time.<grin/>)
>>> > > * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
>>> > > * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
>>> > >
>>> > > * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
>>> > >
>>> > > What do you want to see?
>>> > >
>>> > > G. Wade
>>> > > --
>>> > > Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"
>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > > Houston mailing list
>>> > > Houston at pm.org
>>> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>> > >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
>>>                                                    -- Alvy Ray Smith
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Aug 28 15:03:19 2015
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:03:19 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
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On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 16:53:54 -0500
Modather Suliman via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:

> I would like to see someone presenting about:
>  - your experience about organizing Perl project code.

That would make a really good discussion topic for after the
presentations. I suspect that different people have different ideas
about how that should work.

Good idea.

G. Wade

> thanks,
> -modather
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Julian Brown via Houston
> <houston at pm.org> wrote:
> 
> > How about "Time Progressions with strings and DateTime"?
> >
> > I can expand on DateTime and extend out to maybe 30 minutes if you
> > want.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Nicolas via Houston
> > <houston at pm.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Here is the title for my talk *?from YAPC::EU at Houston.pm"*
> >>
> >> 2015-08-27 21:38 GMT-06:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
> >> <houston at pm.org>:
> >>
> >>> With Julian and Nicolas, we now have two short talks.
> >>>
> >>> We might be able to fit in one more.
> >>>
> >>> Julian and Nicolas, could you send me a title for each of your
> >>> talks, so I can announce it on the site? Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> G. Wade
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
> >>> Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?
> >>> >
> >>> > 2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
> >>> > <houston at pm.org>:
> >>> >
> >>> > > I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September
> >>> > > technical meeting.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
> >>> > >   - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise
> >>> > > not to take all of the time.<grin/>)
> >>> > > * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
> >>> > > * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > What do you want to see?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > G. Wade
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in
> >>> > > "Deathwalker" _______________________________________________
> >>> > > Houston mailing list
> >>> > > Houston at pm.org
> >>> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >>> > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >>> > >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
> >>>                                                    -- Alvy Ray
> >>> Smith _______________________________________________
> >>> Houston mailing list
> >>> Houston at pm.org
> >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Houston mailing list
> >> Houston at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >


-- 
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then you've made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the
hypothesis, then you've made a discovery.                       --
Enrico Fermi

From estrabd at gmail.com  Fri Aug 28 18:06:01 2015
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:06:01 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] What do we want to do for September?
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I should be able to attend, and if so, I will talk about something.

Brett



> On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:03 PM, G. Wade Johnson via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 16:53:54 -0500
> Modather Suliman via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
> 
>> I would like to see someone presenting about:
>> - your experience about organizing Perl project code.
> 
> That would make a really good discussion topic for after the
> presentations. I suspect that different people have different ideas
> about how that should work.
> 
> Good idea.
> 
> G. Wade
> 
>> thanks,
>> -modather
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Julian Brown via Houston
>> <houston at pm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> How about "Time Progressions with strings and DateTime"?
>>> 
>>> I can expand on DateTime and extend out to maybe 30 minutes if you
>>> want.
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Nicolas via Houston
>>> <houston at pm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Here is the title for my talk *?from YAPC::EU at Houston.pm"*
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-08-27 21:38 GMT-06:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
>>>> <houston at pm.org>:
>>>> 
>>>>> With Julian and Nicolas, we now have two short talks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We might be able to fit in one more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Julian and Nicolas, could you send me a title for each of your
>>>>> talks, so I can announce it on the site? Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> G. Wade
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:39:01 -0700
>>>>> Nicolas via Houston <houston at pm.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can probably do a short sumup of ?What I learnt @YAPC::EU?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-08-27 15:39 GMT-07:00 G. Wade Johnson via Houston
>>>>>> <houston at pm.org>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still haven't seen any volunteers for the September
>>>>>>> technical meeting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * Is anyone interested in presenting on Sept 10 at cPanel?
>>>>>>>  - Multiple short talks are still a possibility (I promise
>>>>>>> not to take all of the time.<grin/>)
>>>>>>> * Anything you would like to see someone else present?
>>>>>>> * Would we prefer to do a social meeting this time?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * We could have another hack-a-thon if people want to that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do you want to see?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> G. Wade
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in
>>>>>>> "Deathwalker" _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity.
>>>>>                                                   -- Alvy Ray
>>>>> Smith _______________________________________________
>>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> 
> 
> -- 
> There are 2 possible outcomes: If the result confirms the hypothesis,
> then you've made a measurement. If the result is contrary to the
> hypothesis, then you've made a discovery.                       --
> Enrico Fermi
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 30 14:36:09 2015
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:36:09 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm September Technical meeting
Message-ID: <20150830163609.0beffed7@cygnus>

As usual, our meeting for September will be on the second Thursday,
September 10, at 7pm at cPanel
(http://maps.google.com/maps?q=3131+W.+Alabama+St,+Houston,+TX&hl=en&z=17).
People will begin gathering in the lobby between 6:30 and 7, and we
will go upstairs as a group.

This month we will try a set of short talks again. We have two
presentations to start with, and possibly more before the day.

Julian Brown will present "Time Progressions with strings and DateTime"
covering his recent work in time series in multiple time frames.

Nicolas will present a summary of what he saw at YAPC::EU in
"From YAPC::EU at Houston.pm".

We also have a little interest from a few people who might be able to
fill in any remaining time.

Looking forward to seeing you there,
G. Wade
-- 
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