From mrdvt92 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 1 07:20:13 2013 From: mrdvt92 at yahoo.com (Michael R. Davis) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:20:13 +0000 Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! Message-ID: <183211181-1378045214-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-733097574-@b5.c10.bise6.blackberry> > to play around with Perl in general? Randy, If you do a little research you can find out what technology they are using then setup a linode server with their configuration. Most corporations that I know are running Perl on RedHat (or CentOS). Find out what stack they are using then setup that stack. If they are on a Fedora/RPM based distribution, I would suggest that you learn how to use CPANSPEC to build your Perl packages into RPMs and how to put your other files in RPMs. Many companies are using Puppet and/or Chef so understanding those configuration tools is a key to success too. Mike mrdvt92 From rasto at cm4msaa7.com Sun Sep 1 14:14:40 2013 From: rasto at cm4msaa7.com (lee latham) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 16:14:40 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So what error message do you get when it fails? On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Randy Collier wrote: > I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on my > mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things > worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module > libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when > uncommented). > > Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice? > > Thanks > Randy Collier > randycollier.tx at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randycollier.tx at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 14:41:48 2013 From: randycollier.tx at gmail.com (Randy Collier) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 16:41:48 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! In-Reply-To: References: <3F7E85C0-6D6E-4C2E-955D-E7886EAF66D4@gmail.com> <1377997897.88809.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0026CE6D-2F83-4120-BEEC-CE309EE5F541@gmail.com> I am not sure what mod_perl does but it looked like it was necessary. Take care Randy Sent from Randy's iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:37 PM, "B. Estrade" wrote: > Apache + mod_perl2 is worth looking at when getting started, too. But whatever you do, I would not do it directly on your Mac. I'd do it using a VirtualBox image, maybe even via a Vagrant box (http://vagrantbox.es). > > Brett > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > Hey cool. > > So my advice for getting started with Perl and the web is to eschew Apache completely. > > Please spend an hour working through the Dancer Tutorial or if you prefer the Mojolicious tutorial. > > http://perldancer.org > > Or > > http://mojolicio.us > > Both of these frameworks are lightweight and easy to get going with whatever RDBMS you prefer. > > Now if your $WORK requires mod Perl that's another kettle of fish but if you are just wanting to get some hands on experience, either choice will be much easier to install, learn, and understand. > > Cheers > > Mark > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > > From: Randy Collier ; > To: mrallen1 at yahoo.com ; Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. ; > Subject: Re: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! > Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2013 12:56:20 AM > > Hi Mark, > I have installed mod_perl2 but I don't think it is installed for the perl that apache is using. > I wish I was playing around but I am starting a new job and they use perl extensively. I am a front end designer/developer and have an opportunity to work in the backend. I would like to use mysql and figure out how to install mods properly. Ultimately I would like to use restful web services using perl but I need to walk before I run. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 31, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > >> Are you trying to do modperl? Or are you just trying to play around with Perl in general? >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> >> >> From: Randy Collier ; >> To: ; >> Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! >> Sent: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 9:19:43 PM >> >> I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on my mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when uncommented). >> >> Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice? >> >> Thanks >> Randy Collier >> randycollier.tx at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <0C1314C6-DAB1-4C7D-959D-87DA74BEE353@gmail.com> When i output the perl version in terminal I get 5.14 but in the web browser I get 5.12 also when I output the dbi supported databases I don't get MySQL from the browser. Out of frustration I installed umbuntu for parallels and installed lamp. I did have success accessing the MySQL with perl and displaying something on a web page. At the moment I have an environment to start learning but I will continue to try and get my Mac, apache, MySQL with perl to play nicely. Any clues or help would be appreciated. Take care Randy Sent from Randy's iPhone On Sep 1, 2013, at 4:14 PM, lee latham wrote: > So what error message do you get when it fails? > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Randy Collier wrote: > I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on my mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when uncommented). > > Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice? > > Thanks > Randy Collier > randycollier.tx at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perl at saltbreez.com Sun Sep 1 15:25:21 2013 From: perl at saltbreez.com (Perl Developer) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 18:25:21 -0400 Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! In-Reply-To: <0026CE6D-2F83-4120-BEEC-CE309EE5F541@gmail.com> References: <3F7E85C0-6D6E-4C2E-955D-E7886EAF66D4@gmail.com> <1377997897.88809.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <0026CE6D-2F83-4120-BEEC-CE309EE5F541@gmail.com> Message-ID: I always start with a Wikipedia article if I am not sure what something is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_perl Since you have gone this far, I would recommend you read "Writing Apache Modules with Perl and C" , But as others have pointed out, Dancer or one of the other frameworks will yield more bang for the bucks. Just my $0.02 worth On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Randy Collier wrote: > I am not sure what mod_perl does but it looked like it was necessary. > > Take care > Randy > > Sent from Randy's iPhone > > On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:37 PM, "B. Estrade" wrote: > > Apache + mod_perl2 is worth looking at when getting started, too. But > whatever you do, I would not do it directly on your Mac. I'd do it using a > VirtualBox image, maybe even via a Vagrant box (http://vagrantbox.es). > > Brett > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > >> Hey cool. >> >> So my advice for getting started with Perl and the web is to eschew >> Apache completely. >> >> Please spend an hour working through the Dancer Tutorial or if you prefer >> the Mojolicious tutorial. >> >> http://perldancer.org >> >> Or >> >> http://mojolicio.us >> >> Both of these frameworks are lightweight and easy to get going with >> whatever RDBMS you prefer. >> >> Now if your $WORK requires mod Perl that's another kettle of fish but if >> you are just wanting to get some hands on experience, either choice will be >> much easier to install, learn, and understand. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mark >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> >> ------------------------------ >> * From: * Randy Collier ; >> * To: * mrallen1 at yahoo.com ; Houston.pm located in >> Houston, TX. ; >> * Subject: * Re: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! >> * Sent: * Sun, Sep 1, 2013 12:56:20 AM >> >> Hi Mark, >> I have installed mod_perl2 but I don't think it is installed for the perl >> that apache is using. >> I wish I was playing around but I am starting a new job and they use perl >> extensively. I am a front end designer/developer and have an opportunity >> to work in the backend. I would like to use mysql and figure out how to >> install mods properly. Ultimately I would like to use restful web services >> using perl but I need to walk before I run. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 31, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Mark Allen wrote: >> >> Are you trying to do modperl? Or are you just trying to play around with >> Perl in general? >> >> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android >> >> ------------------------------ >> * From: * Randy Collier ; >> * To: * ; >> * Subject: * [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! >> * Sent: * Sat, Aug 31, 2013 9:19:43 PM >> >> I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on >> my mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things >> worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module >> libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when >> uncommented). >> >> Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice? >> >> Thanks >> Randy Collier >> randycollier.tx at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -- Best Regards, [Joseph] Christian Werner Sr C 360.920.7183 H 757.304.0502 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hack-a-thon: * If you've got something you are working on and you could use some help, bring it. * If you are willing to help someone work on their project come on. 2. Perl help session * Focused on people learning Perl who are having trouble moving forward. * Part tips/tricks/traps, part answering questions. I'll run the second part on one side of the room. Anyone who would like to join, either to help or to learn is welcome. If I don't hear any other ideas, I'll announce this on Tuesday. G. Wade -- You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a violent psychopath who knows where you live. -- John F. Woods From randycollier.tx at gmail.com Sun Sep 8 19:54:38 2013 From: randycollier.tx at gmail.com (Randy Collier) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 21:54:38 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm meeting this Thursday In-Reply-To: <20130908152659.2ea005f3@cygnus> References: <20130908152659.2ea005f3@cygnus> Message-ID: Where and when is the meeting? Take care Randy Collier On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > Since we haven't had any definite answers on the meeting this Thursday, > I've decided to cobble together the following (unless someone suggests > something else). > > The meeting will be in two parts: > > 1. Hack-a-thon: > * If you've got something you are working on and you could use some > help, bring it. > * If you are willing to help someone work on their project come on. > > 2. Perl help session > * Focused on people learning Perl who are having trouble moving > forward. > * Part tips/tricks/traps, part answering questions. > > I'll run the second part on one side of the room. Anyone who would like > to join, either to help or to learn is welcome. > > If I don't hear any other ideas, I'll announce this on Tuesday. > > G. Wade > -- > You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a violent > psychopath who knows where you live. -- John F. Woods > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abaezjob at gmail.com Sun Sep 8 20:23:18 2013 From: abaezjob at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Abraham_B=E1ez?=) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 22:23:18 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm meeting this Thursday In-Reply-To: <20130908152659.2ea005f3@cygnus> References: <20130908152659.2ea005f3@cygnus> Message-ID: Perl help session is great news to me. This time won't be able to take great advantage due to my very late awareness of this offering. However, i plan to attend. Abraham On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > Since we haven't had any definite answers on the meeting this Thursday, > I've decided to cobble together the following (unless someone suggests > something else). > > The meeting will be in two parts: > > 1. Hack-a-thon: > * If you've got something you are working on and you could use some > help, bring it. > * If you are willing to help someone work on their project come on. > > 2. Perl help session > * Focused on people learning Perl who are having trouble moving > forward. > * Part tips/tricks/traps, part answering questions. > > I'll run the second part on one side of the room. Anyone who would like > to join, either to help or to learn is welcome. > > If I don't hear any other ideas, I'll announce this on Tuesday. > > G. Wade > -- > You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a violent > psychopath who knows where you live. -- John F. Woods > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -- Abraham Baez 281.821.0101 Cellular "Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Sep 8 21:14:57 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:14:57 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm meeting this Thursday In-Reply-To: References: <20130908152659.2ea005f3@cygnus> Message-ID: <20130908231457.6ec3e531@cygnus> On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 21:54:38 -0500 Randy Collier wrote: > Where and when is the meeting? Our meetings have been on the second Thursday of each month (this Thursday, actually). We normally meet at the cPanel offices, 3131 W. Alabama at 7pm. I'll give full details in the meeting announcement. G. Wade > Take care > Randy Collier > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, G. Wade Johnson > wrote: > > > Since we haven't had any definite answers on the meeting this > > Thursday, I've decided to cobble together the following (unless > > someone suggests something else). > > > > The meeting will be in two parts: > > > > 1. Hack-a-thon: > > * If you've got something you are working on and you could use > > some help, bring it. > > * If you are willing to help someone work on their project come > > on. > > > > 2. Perl help session > > * Focused on people learning Perl who are having trouble moving > > forward. > > * Part tips/tricks/traps, part answering questions. > > > > I'll run the second part on one side of the room. Anyone who would > > like to join, either to help or to learn is welcome. > > > > If I don't hear any other ideas, I'll announce this on Tuesday. > > > > G. Wade > > -- > > You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a > > violent psychopath who knows where you live. -- John > > F. Woods _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > -- We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true. -- Robert Wilensky, UCB From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Sep 8 21:17:24 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:17:24 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm meeting this Thursday In-Reply-To: References: <20130908152659.2ea005f3@cygnus> Message-ID: <20130908231724.27c8c5ef@cygnus> On Sun, 8 Sep 2013 22:23:18 -0500 Abraham B?ez wrote: > Perl help session is great news to me. > > This time won't be able to take great advantage due to my very late > awareness of this offering. Apologies for the late notice, I thought we were going to have something else, but I never got any confirmation. So, I'm just pushing through to get something in place. At the least, bring questions and points of confusion (for the help session) or code that you are working on (for the hack-a-thon). > However, i plan to attend. See you there, G. Wade > Abraham > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, G. Wade Johnson > wrote: > > > Since we haven't had any definite answers on the meeting this > > Thursday, I've decided to cobble together the following (unless > > someone suggests something else). > > > > The meeting will be in two parts: > > > > 1. Hack-a-thon: > > * If you've got something you are working on and you could use > > some help, bring it. > > * If you are willing to help someone work on their project come > > on. > > > > 2. Perl help session > > * Focused on people learning Perl who are having trouble moving > > forward. > > * Part tips/tricks/traps, part answering questions. > > > > I'll run the second part on one side of the room. Anyone who would > > like to join, either to help or to learn is welcome. > > > > If I don't hear any other ideas, I'll announce this on Tuesday. > > > > G. Wade > > -- > > You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a > > violent psychopath who knows where you live. -- John > > F. Woods _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > > -- "Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs." -- "By the Sword", Mercedes Lackey From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Sep 10 17:46:06 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 19:46:06 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm September Meeting Message-ID: <20130910194606.42a571b2@cygnus> We'll meet at the cPanel, Inc. offices on Thursday, September 12. As usual, we will meet in the lobby at the top of the parking garage between 6:30pm and 7pm. We'll go up to the meeting room around 7pm. Parking is free on top of the parking garage. The meeting will be in two parts: 1. Hack-a-thon: * If you've got something you are working on and you could use some help, bring it. * If you are willing to help someone work on their project come on. 2. Perl help session * Focused on people learning Perl who are having trouble moving forward. * Part tips/tricks/traps, part answering questions. I'll run the second part on one side of the room. Anyone who would like to join, either to help or to learn is welcome. I look forward to seeing you all there. G. Wade -- Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error. -- Linus Pauling From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Sep 12 19:49:55 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:49:55 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Questions from tonight's meeting Message-ID: <20130912214955.68585966@cygnus> The meeting was lightly attended, but enthusiastic. Some questions came up that were not completely answered or that we could have used more input on. 1. Fraser had some questions about running Perl scripts under Apache on Windows with a different (Linux) shebang line. Much discussion, but we all agreed we were not experts in that area. Anyone have an answer for Fraser? 2. I asked the standard, does anyone have ideas for topics for next month. One suggestion was "Graphics programming in Perl", in particular 3D graphics or game programming. Does anyone know anything about this topic and would be willing to give even a basic presentation. 3. The suggestion was made that I present on 3D Printing and the Perl connection. Any interest? G. Wade -- The closer you get to the truth, the messier your sentence gets. -- Paul Graham From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Sep 12 19:55:06 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:55:06 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Regex module I mentioned Message-ID: <20130912215506.38dd5b4c@cygnus> In the meeting I mentioned a module from Damian that showed walking through a regular expression to see how it worked. I confused two things when I mentioned it. The module is Regexp::Debugger. The script that shows it off is rxrx. Playing with this will help you understand what your regexes are doing. G. 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He will be here on the 14th and leave on the 24th. Would anyone like to get together on a weeknight or on the weekend for some time with brian? (He did mention he has never been to the Johnson Space Center.) For those that are interested, this would be a chance to show off our town. We could have different people meet him for dinner on different nights, or we could organize a trip. Any ideas, opinions, suggestions? We could also move our normal meeting from the 10th to the 17th to get brian to come talk. He's a great speaker and always interesting. Speak up and help us show brian what our group can do. G. Wade -- "No Boom today. Boom tomorrow, There's always a boom tomorrow." -- Ivanova, "Grail" From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Sep 15 21:38:39 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:38:39 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] September meeting writeup is on-line Message-ID: <20130915233839.22c74071@cygnus> The write-up on the most recent meeting is at http://houston.pm.org/talks/2013talks/1309Talk/index.html. G. Wade -- That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and complex tasks impossible. -- John William Chambless, <39v25i$2rbc at whale.st.usm.edu> From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Sep 16 08:23:10 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:23:10 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Serendipity Message-ID: <20130916102310.60674860@cygnus> After our discussion of Thursday about Perl hashes, I stumbled across this article with more details, enjoy. http://hoelz.ro/blog/perl-5-internals-part-three G. Wade -- Oh really? There's debate about open source hardware? I'm going to keep shipping open source hardware while you all argue about it. -- Ladyada From rurban at x-ray.at Mon Sep 16 08:30:15 2013 From: rurban at x-ray.at (Reini Urban) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:30:15 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Serendipity In-Reply-To: <20130916102310.60674860@cygnus> References: <20130916102310.60674860@cygnus> Message-ID: And see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_hashing vs the current perl5 linear probing. I wrote on G+: I use double hashing in p2, which is faster and safer than linked lists on collisions and the need to rehash. In cPanel binaries we also do not randomize on rehash, we randomize even small hashes from the very beginning, as in 5.8.1. This way we didn't fell in to the trap p5p fell recently. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > After our discussion of Thursday about Perl hashes, I stumbled across > this article with more details, enjoy. > > http://hoelz.ro/blog/perl-5-internals-part-three > > G. Wade > -- > Oh really? There's debate about open source hardware? I'm going to keep > shipping open source hardware while you all argue about it. > -- Ladyada > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Sep 22 10:25:18 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:25:18 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October meeting ideas Message-ID: <20130922122518.09320a36@cygnus> We're quickly approaching the October meeting and we need a idea for the meeting. Any opinions on the following ideas: 1. Perl help session - This worked reasonably last time. Good for people newer to Perl. 2. "Graphics Programming in Perl" - A request was made at the last meeting to find out if anyone was qualified/interested to do a talk in this area. 3. Move meeting to 10/17 and get brian d foy to come in. - brian is in Houston that week and would be willing to talk or do a social type event. 4. Perl and 3D Printing - Some interest at September meeting 5. Social meeting. 6. Other? Chime in and let the group know what you are interested in. G. Wade -- Fortune knocks but once, but misfortune has much more patience. -- Laurence J. Peter From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 22 11:56:40 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pm-h] October meeting ideas In-Reply-To: <20130922122518.09320a36@cygnus> Message-ID: <1379876200.61066.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I like option 3 :) Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From estrabd at gmail.com Sun Sep 22 13:25:09 2013 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:25:09 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October meeting ideas In-Reply-To: <1379876200.61066.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20130922122518.09320a36@cygnus> <1379876200.61066.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > I like option 3 :) > #3 for me, too :) Brett > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > > ------------------------------ > * From: * G. Wade Johnson ; > * To: * Houston Perl Mongers ; > * Subject: * [pm-h] October meeting ideas > * Sent: * Sun, Sep 22, 2013 5:25:18 PM > > We're quickly approaching the October meeting and we need a idea for > the meeting. Any opinions on the following ideas: > > 1. Perl help session > - This worked reasonably last time. Good for people newer to Perl. > > 2. "Graphics Programming in Perl" > - A request was made at the last meeting to find out if anyone was > qualified/interested to do a talk in this area. > > 3. 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If you would like to stop receiving these newsletters or announcements from O'Reilly, send an email to usergroups at oreilly.com ================================== -- I never let schooling get in the way of my education. -- Mark Twain -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Sep 22 19:31:50 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:31:50 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] brian d foy in Houston third and fourth week of October In-Reply-To: <20130915213925.00950035@cygnus> References: <20130915213925.00950035@cygnus> Message-ID: <20130922213150.24c5b565@cygnus> So, I haven't seen any responses on this yet. brian will be in town for about a week and a half. We could have him com talk to us as the October meeting. However, with that much time in town, we ought to be able to do better than just asking him to present. 1. Would anyone be available during the day any time October 14-23? 2. Would we want to add a social meetup? - Go out to dinner someplace special for Houston. Ideas? - Some other social event: museum, music, Space Center Houston, etc. Maybe we could put together multiple groups each taking a different day to entertain. Any ideas, interest, opinions? Remember this is yet another chance to sit and chat with a major figure in the Perl community. brian is an interesting guy and knowledgeable about main topics. G. Wade On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:39:25 -0500 "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > brian will be in town and was looking to make plans for fun with the > Houston.pm group. > > He will be here on the 14th and leave on the 24th. Would anyone like > to get together on a weeknight or on the weekend for some time with > brian? > > (He did mention he has never been to the Johnson Space Center.) > > For those that are interested, this would be a chance to show off our > town. We could have different people meet him for dinner on different > nights, or we could organize a trip. Any ideas, opinions, suggestions? > > We could also move our normal meeting from the 10th to the 17th to get > brian to come talk. He's a great speaker and always interesting. > > Speak up and help us show brian what our group can do. > G. Wade -- Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Sun Sep 22 20:36:15 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pm-h] brian d foy in Houston third and fourth week of October In-Reply-To: <20130922213150.24c5b565@cygnus> Message-ID: <1379907375.84979.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> For a special dinner i'd suggest Underbelly or Oxheart. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Sep 23 18:42:24 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:42:24 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] brian d foy in Houston third and fourth week of October In-Reply-To: <1379907375.84979.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20130922213150.24c5b565@cygnus> <1379907375.84979.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20130923204224.09c1a43f@cygnus> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Mark Allen wrote: > For a special dinner i'd suggest Underbelly or Oxheart. Good suggestions! I haven't been to either of those. They look fancy. Any other ideas from the group? I'd like to toss brian a bunch of ideas and see what he likes. Keep the ideas coming. G. Wade -- Always hold a grudge. Keeps the memory sharp. -- Hagar the Horrible From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Sep 23 18:44:53 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:44:53 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October meeting ideas In-Reply-To: <20130922122518.09320a36@cygnus> References: <20130922122518.09320a36@cygnus> Message-ID: <20130923204453.791c9d1b@cygnus> On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:25:18 -0500 "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > We're quickly approaching the October meeting and we need a idea for > the meeting. Any opinions on the following ideas: > > 1. Perl help session > - This worked reasonably last time. Good for people newer to Perl. > > 2. "Graphics Programming in Perl" > - A request was made at the last meeting to find out if anyone was > qualified/interested to do a talk in this area. > > 3. Move meeting to 10/17 and get brian d foy to come in. > - brian is in Houston that week and would be willing to talk or do > a social type event. > > 4. Perl and 3D Printing > - Some interest at September meeting > > 5. Social meeting. > > 6. Other? > > Chime in and let the group know what you are interested in. > G. Wade So, we seem to be getting some push for moving the meeting to a week later to coincide with brian being in town. If you would like to do something else, speak up. For those interested in option #3, do we want to go with 3a. Technical presentation 3b. Social meeting G. Wade -- Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error. -- Linus Pauling From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Sep 28 12:48:19 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 14:48:19 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Games in Perl Message-ID: <20130928144819.46571ba6@cygnus> http://blogs.perl.org/users/alex1/2013/09/games-in-perltk.html Alex surveys some of the games people have written in Perl. G. Wade -- It's easier to port a shell than a shell script. -- Larry Wall From abaezjob at gmail.com Sun Sep 29 09:46:10 2013 From: abaezjob at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Abraham_B=E1ez?=) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 11:46:10 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October meeting ideas In-Reply-To: <20130923204453.791c9d1b@cygnus> References: <20130922122518.09320a36@cygnus> <20130923204453.791c9d1b@cygnus> Message-ID: 3a On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:44 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:25:18 -0500 > "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > > > We're quickly approaching the October meeting and we need a idea for > > the meeting. Any opinions on the following ideas: > > > > 1. Perl help session > > - This worked reasonably last time. Good for people newer to Perl. > > > > 2. "Graphics Programming in Perl" > > - A request was made at the last meeting to find out if anyone was > > qualified/interested to do a talk in this area. > > > > 3. Move meeting to 10/17 and get brian d foy to come in. > > - brian is in Houston that week and would be willing to talk or do > > a social type event. > > > > 4. Perl and 3D Printing > > - Some interest at September meeting > > > > 5. Social meeting. > > > > 6. Other? > > > > Chime in and let the group know what you are interested in. > > G. Wade > > So, we seem to be getting some push for moving the meeting to a week > later to coincide with brian being in town. If you would like to do > something else, speak up. > > For those interested in option #3, do we want to go with > > 3a. Technical presentation > 3b. Social meeting > > G. Wade > -- > Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to > correct for subjective error. -- Linus Pauling > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -- Abraham Baez 281.821.0101 Cellular "Abraham Baez" < abaezjob at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: