From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Mar 9 08:33:27 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 10:33:27 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Houston.pm March Technical Meeting: Pari/GP and Perl - Past, Present and Future Message-ID: <20130309103327.4caeaf05@cygnus> Charles Boyd will introduce the Pari/GP library and discuss how its design makes creating bindings to the library easier. He will also discuss some current Perl bindings to the library, as well as future directions for this work. As usual, we will meet at 3131 W. Alabama on Thursday night. We'll meet in the lobby between 6:40pm and 7pm, and lead the group to the meeting around 7pm. Parking is free on top of the parking garage. Look forward to seeing you there. G. Wade -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. From estrabd at gmail.com Wed Mar 13 09:58:12 2013 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:58:12 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] perl101.org needs a maintainer Message-ID: I think we were looking for a Perl-resource like project, this might be a good fit? http://perlbuzz.com/2013/03/perl101org-needs-a-new-maintainer.html Brett From mikeflan at att.net Wed Mar 13 18:02:36 2013 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:02:36 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] perl101.org needs a maintainer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <514121AC.1060209@att.net> On 3/13/2013 11:58 AM, B. Estrade wrote: > I think we were looking for a Perl-resource like project, this might > be a good fit? > > http://perlbuzz.com/2013/03/perl101org-needs-a-new-maintainer.html > > Brett That is a lot like our Cookbook idea. I like the Cookbook structure a little better, but I guess we could make it a lot like the Cookbook. Mike From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 14 10:51:04 2013 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:51:04 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required Message-ID: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> Hi Y'all: All of a sudden, PPM is refusing to download a package, returning a 401 error saying that Authorization is required. I googled this and can't figure out why this is happening. I have tested this now on three machines and all do the same. I have run PPM as administrator with no difference. Using XP. Fraser -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jellyson at gmail.com Thu Mar 14 14:35:43 2013 From: jellyson at gmail.com (John Ellyson) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 16:35:43 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> Message-ID: Fraser, Can you share the following information? - What distribution of Perl are you using? (ActivePerl, Strawberry Perl, etc.) - What version of Perl are you using? (5.12, 5.14, etc.) - Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Perl? (I'm assuming 32-bit due to Windows XP.) - What module are you trying to install? - Which PPM repository are you trying to install from? Without the above information, others have to make a lot of guesses and assumptions to try to figure out how to offer any assistance. Based on the very limited informaiton that you shared, here's my guesses on what could be the situation. Guess 1: You're behind an HTTP (and/or FTP) proxy that requires authentication. Solution: You can update the PPM utility to store this information. Look at the documentation on PPM's configuration for information on how to do this. Guess 2: You're using an old version of free ActivePerl and trying to install a module from ActiveState's repository. Solution: You may need to upgrade to a newer version of ActivePerl. I know that ActiveState only provides access to the newer versions and builds of free ActivePerl on their site. Those who have paid for support for their business edition of ActivePerl have access to older versions and builds of ActivePerl. I'm wondering if it's possible that you're using an old version of ActivePerl and ActiveState is no longer providing free access to their repository for that version of ActivePerl. Guess 3: You're trying to install a module from a repository that might have issues at the moment. Solution: Try contacting the repository maintainer for assistance. Within the past month or two, I remember seeing someone post on PerlMonks.org that the Bribes repository was no longer accessible and then a few weeks later someone else reported that it was accessible again. Hopefully some of this information helps out. Also, if you are using a version of free ActivePerl, you may want to also check with the user forums on ActiveState. That's the official "support" for the free edition of ActivePerl. John Ellyson On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Fraser Baker wrote: > ** > Hi Y'all: > > All of a sudden, PPM is refusing to download a package, returning a 401 > error saying that Authorization is required. I googled this and can't > figure out why this is happening. I have tested this now on three machines > and all do the same. I have run PPM as administrator with no difference. > Using XP. > > Fraser > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 14 18:09:04 2013 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:09:04 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> Message-ID: <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> Hi John: Answers to your questions are below: But, your second comment rang true. Updating to 5.16.2 from 5.10 restored ppm, and I was able to download the module I needed. Thanks Fraser ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ellyson To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required Fraser, Can you share the following information? - What distribution of Perl are you using? (ActivePerl, Strawberry Perl, etc.) Active Perl - What version of Perl are you using? (5.12, 5.14, etc.) v5.10.0 - Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Perl? (I'm assuming 32-bit due to Windows XP.) 32-bit - What module are you trying to install? Statistics-LineFit ... I have tried others at random and the same error occurs - Which PPM repository are you trying to install from? Active State Package Repository Without the above information, others have to make a lot of guesses and assumptions to try to figure out how to offer any assistance. Based on the very limited informaiton that you shared, here's my guesses on what could be the situation. Guess 1: You're behind an HTTP (and/or FTP) proxy that requires authentication. Solution: You can update the PPM utility to store this information. Look at the documentation on PPM's configuration for information on how to do this. Guess 2: You're using an old version of free ActivePerl and trying to install a module from ActiveState's repository. Solution: You may need to upgrade to a newer version of ActivePerl. I know that ActiveState only provides access to the newer versions and builds of free ActivePerl on their site. Those who have paid for support for their business edition of ActivePerl have access to older versions and builds of ActivePerl. I'm wondering if it's possible that you're using an old version of ActivePerl and ActiveState is no longer providing free access to their repository for that version of ActivePerl. Guess 3: You're trying to install a module from a repository that might have issues at the moment. Solution: Try contacting the repository maintainer for assistance. Within the past month or two, I remember seeing someone post on PerlMonks.org that the Bribes repository was no longer accessible and then a few weeks later someone else reported that it was accessible again. Hopefully some of this information helps out. Also, if you are using a version of free ActivePerl, you may want to also check with the user forums on ActiveState. That's the official "support" for the free edition of ActivePerl. John Ellyson On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Fraser Baker wrote: Hi Y'all: All of a sudden, PPM is refusing to download a package, returning a 401 error saying that Authorization is required. I googled this and can't figure out why this is happening. I have tested this now on three machines and all do the same. I have run PPM as administrator with no difference. Using XP. Fraser _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikeflan at att.net Thu Mar 14 19:01:00 2013 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 21:01:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> Message-ID: <514280DC.3070401@att.net> On 3/14/2013 8:09 PM, Fraser Baker wrote: > Hi John: > Answers to your questions are below: > But, your second comment rang true. Updating to 5.16.2 from > 5.10 restored ppm, and I was able to download the module I needed. > Thanks > Fraser I have ActiveState v5.8.0 and ppm is working fine. I now have HTML-GoogleMaps installed. I tried to upgrade a month ago and it installed, but many of my programs were broken, or there was some problem I couldn't easily fix, so I went back to v5.8.0. My next move will be to Strawberry Perl, but I haven't blocked out the time to do that yet. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 15 04:41:34 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:41:34 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <514280DC.3070401@att.net> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> <514280DC.3070401@att.net> Message-ID: Out of sheer curiosity why stick at 5.8? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote: > > On 3/14/2013 8:09 PM, Fraser Baker wrote: >> Hi John: >> >> Answers to your questions are below: >> >> But, your second comment rang true. Updating to 5.16.2 from 5.10 restored ppm, and I was able to download the module I needed. >> >> Thanks >> >> Fraser > > I have ActiveState v5.8.0 and ppm is working > fine. I now have HTML-GoogleMaps installed. > > I tried to upgrade a month ago and it installed, > but many of my programs were broken, or there was > some problem I couldn't easily fix, so I went > back to v5.8.0. > > My next move will be to Strawberry Perl, but I > haven't blocked out the time to do that yet. > > > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikeflan at att.net Fri Mar 15 05:44:14 2013 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:44:14 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> <514280DC.3070401@att.net> Message-ID: <5143179E.2020506@att.net> On 3/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Allen wrote: > Out of sheer curiosity why stick at 5.8? No particular reason. I upgraded once from ActivePerl-5.6.1.635 to 5.8 (back in 2003) and then just remained there. Then I finally decided to upgrade 2 months ago, but it didn't go well. I just found this note dated 12/22/2012 that I posted to Perl Beginners. I wrote both parts of this: ___________________________________________________ Please ignore the post below. The answer is that it tries to install to C:/Perl64, but for some odd reason never creates that directory, or at least I can't see it or get to it by typing the address into file explorer, even though it says it installs fine. This version of ActiveState also won't install over the older version. You have to delete the older version to get this to install. I don't think ActiveState is doing such a great job of maintaining this Perl for non-business users. That is my opinion. It's not working now, so I will have other questions to post soon. ___________________________________________________ Just tried to upgrade from 5.8.0 to 5.16.1 (64bit) on one of my machines. Ran this: ActivePerl-5.16.1.1601-MSWin32-x64-296175.msi and it installed fine, but I can't find it. I normally keep Perl in C:/Perl, but when I go there it's still 5.8.0. I did a search for 'active' and '16.1' and 'Perl' and 'bin', but can't find it anywhere. I also checked the documentation for install location, but didn't find it. This is on Win7. I just found at this location: http://tinyurl.com/dxmh9oe that "Perl is installed by default in |C:\Perl". That is where I want it, but it doesn't look like it whet there. I have perl.exe, perl5.6.1.exe, and perl5.8.0.exe files in C:/Perl/bin. The newest file in that directory is libeay32.dll from 2/2012. | Very odd. If anybody knows where it installs please let me know. Mike Flannigan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 15 06:26:45 2013 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:26:45 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <5143179E.2020506@att.net> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH><52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH><514280DC.3070401@att.net> <5143179E.2020506@att.net> Message-ID: <8531DDFEDE2449DF884E0DD0059A3A80@CHEETAH> I am relatively unfamiliar with the inner workings of PERL. To get around the 401 error, I had to upgrade PERL. In doing so, Chart director stopped working and I had to upgrade that program. I then learned that PERL upgrades are not backward compatible. I have some 20 modules installed, which I also updated to their latest releases. So, here is my question. Are all the more than a thousand modules that folks write outdated when a new version of PERL is released? Fraser ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Flannigan To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required On 3/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Allen wrote: Out of sheer curiosity why stick at 5.8? No particular reason. I upgraded once from ActivePerl-5.6.1.635 to 5.8 (back in 2003) and then just remained there. Then I finally decided to upgrade 2 months ago, but it didn't go well. I just found this note dated 12/22/2012 that I posted to Perl Beginners. I wrote both parts of this: ___________________________________________________ Please ignore the post below. The answer is that it tries to install to C:/Perl64, but for some odd reason never creates that directory, or at least I can't see it or get to it by typing the address into file explorer, even though it says it installs fine. This version of ActiveState also won't install over the older version. You have to delete the older version to get this to install. I don't think ActiveState is doing such a great job of maintaining this Perl for non-business users. That is my opinion. It's not working now, so I will have other questions to post soon. ___________________________________________________ Just tried to upgrade from 5.8.0 to 5.16.1 (64bit) on one of my machines. Ran this: ActivePerl-5.16.1.1601-MSWin32-x64-296175.msi and it installed fine, but I can't find it. I normally keep Perl in C:/Perl, but when I go there it's still 5.8.0. I did a search for 'active' and '16.1' and 'Perl' and 'bin', but can't find it anywhere. I also checked the documentation for install location, but didn't find it. This is on Win7. I just found at this location: http://tinyurl.com/dxmh9oe that "Perl is installed by default in C:\Perl". That is where I want it, but it doesn't look like it whet there. I have perl.exe, perl5.6.1.exe, and perl5.8.0.exe files in C:/Perl/bin. The newest file in that directory is libeay32.dll from 2/2012. Very odd. If anybody knows where it installs please let me know. Mike Flannigan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 15 06:35:05 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <5143179E.2020506@att.net> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> <514280DC.3070401@att.net> <5143179E.2020506@att.net> Message-ID: <1363354505.1022.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Maybe we should have a Perl install fest for one of our meetings! Mark ________________________________ From: Mike Flannigan To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required On 3/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Allen wrote: Out of sheer curiosity why stick at 5.8? > No particular reason.? I upgraded once from ActivePerl-5.6.1.635 to 5.8 (back in 2003) and then just remained there.? Then I finally decided to upgrade 2 months ago, but it didn't go well. I just found this note dated 12/22/2012 that I posted to Perl Beginners.? I wrote both parts of this: ___________________________________________________ Please ignore the post below.? The answer is that it tries to install to C:/Perl64, but for some odd reason never creates that directory, or at least I can't see it or get to it by typing the address into file explorer, even though it says it installs fine. This version of ActiveState also won't install over the older version.? You have to delete the older version to get this to install. I don't think ActiveState is doing such a great job of maintaining this Perl for non-business users.? That is my opinion. It's not working now, so I will have other questions to post soon. ___________________________________________________ Just tried to upgrade from 5.8.0 to 5.16.1 (64bit) on one of my machines.? Ran this: ActivePerl-5.16.1.1601-MSWin32-x64-296175.msi and it installed fine, but I can't find it. I normally keep Perl in C:/Perl, but when I go there it's still 5.8.0.? I did a search for 'active' and '16.1' and 'Perl' and 'bin', but can't find it anywhere. I also checked the documentation for install location, but didn't find it. This is on Win7. I just found at this location: http://tinyurl.com/dxmh9oe that "Perl is installed by default in C:\Perl".? That is where I want it, but it doesn't look like it whet there.? I have perl.exe, perl5.6.1.exe, and perl5.8.0.exe files in C:/Perl/bin.? The newest file in that directory is libeay32.dll from 2/2012. Very odd.? If anybody knows where it installs please let me know. Mike Flannigan _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 15 11:35:54 2013 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:35:54 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <1363354505.1022.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH><52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH><514280DC.3070401@att.net><5143179E.2020506@att.net> <1363354505.1022.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That would be good, sort of a PERL innards, but it needs to include those lazy folks (Windows users) such as myself. Fraser ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Allen To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required Maybe we should have a Perl install fest for one of our meetings! Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mike Flannigan To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required On 3/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Allen wrote: Out of sheer curiosity why stick at 5.8? No particular reason. I upgraded once from ActivePerl-5.6.1.635 to 5.8 (back in 2003) and then just remained there. Then I finally decided to upgrade 2 months ago, but it didn't go well. I just found this note dated 12/22/2012 that I posted to Perl Beginners. I wrote both parts of this: ___________________________________________________ Please ignore the post below. The answer is that it tries to install to C:/Perl64, but for some odd reason never creates that directory, or at least I can't see it or get to it by typing the address into file explorer, even though it says it installs fine. This version of ActiveState also won't install over the older version. You have to delete the older version to get this to install. I don't think ActiveState is doing such a great job of maintaining this Perl for non-business users. That is my opinion. It's not working now, so I will have other questions to post soon. ___________________________________________________ Just tried to upgrade from 5.8.0 to 5.16.1 (64bit) on one of my machines. Ran this: ActivePerl-5.16.1.1601-MSWin32-x64-296175.msi and it installed fine, but I can't find it. I normally keep Perl in C:/Perl, but when I go there it's still 5.8.0. I did a search for 'active' and '16.1' and 'Perl' and 'bin', but can't find it anywhere. I also checked the documentation for install location, but didn't find it. This is on Win7. I just found at this location: http://tinyurl.com/dxmh9oe that "Perl is installed by default in C:\Perl". That is where I want it, but it doesn't look like it whet there. I have perl.exe, perl5.6.1.exe, and perl5.8.0.exe files in C:/Perl/bin. The newest file in that directory is libeay32.dll from 2/2012. Very odd. If anybody knows where it installs please let me know. Mike Flannigan _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From todd at rinaldo.us Fri Mar 15 12:06:43 2013 From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:06:43 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> <514280DC.3070401@att.net> <5143179E.2020506@att.net> <1363354505.1022.YahooMailNeo@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I can do that. I have a TON of experience maintaining perl distros, including the CPAN modules that go with them. I can talk about the problems involved and windows vs UNIX issues. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Fraser Baker wrote: > ** > That would be good, sort of a PERL innards, but it needs to include those > lazy folks (Windows users) such as myself. > > Fraser > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mark Allen > *To:* Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 8:35 AM > *Subject:* Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required > > Maybe we should have a Perl install fest for one of our meetings! > > Mark > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Mike Flannigan > *To:* "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." > *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 7:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required > > > On 3/15/2013 6:41 AM, Mark Allen wrote: > > Out of sheer curiosity why stick at 5.8? > > > > No particular reason. I upgraded once from > ActivePerl-5.6.1.635 to 5.8 (back in 2003) and > then just remained there. Then I finally decided > to upgrade 2 months ago, but it didn't go well. > > I just found this note dated 12/22/2012 that > I posted to Perl Beginners. I wrote both > parts of this: > > ___________________________________________________ > > > Please ignore the post below. The answer is that > it tries to install to C:/Perl64, but for some > odd reason never creates that directory, or at > least I can't see it or get to it by typing the > address into file explorer, even though it says > it installs fine. > > This version of ActiveState also won't install over > the older version. You have to delete the older > version to get this to install. > > I don't think ActiveState is doing such a great > job of maintaining this Perl for non-business > users. That is my opinion. > > It's not working now, so I will have other > questions to post soon. > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > > Just tried to upgrade from 5.8.0 to 5.16.1 (64bit) > on one of my machines. Ran this: > ActivePerl-5.16.1.1601-MSWin32-x64-296175.msi > and it installed fine, but I can't find it. > > I normally keep Perl in C:/Perl, but when I > go there it's still 5.8.0. I did a search for 'active' > and '16.1' and 'Perl' and 'bin', but can't find it anywhere. > > I also checked the documentation for install location, > but didn't find it. > > This is on Win7. > > I just found at this location: > http://tinyurl.com/dxmh9oe > that "Perl is installed by default in C:\Perl". That > is where I want it, but it doesn't look like it whet > there. I have perl.exe, perl5.6.1.exe, and perl5.8.0.exe > files in C:/Perl/bin. The newest file in that directory > is libeay32.dll from 2/2012. > > > Very odd. If anybody knows where it installs please > let me know. > > > Mike Flannigan > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -- Todd Rinaldo todd at rinaldo.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Mar 17 16:26:00 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. 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Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:59:20 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] March notes are online Message-ID: <20130317225920.6f6565dc@cygnus> The notes for the March technical meeting are now online. http://houston.pm.org/talks/mostrecent.html G. Wade -- "Mister Garibaldi, there're days I'm very glad I don't have to think like you do." -- Ivanova, "And the Sky Full of Stars" From zaki.mughal at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 22:40:58 2013 From: zaki.mughal at gmail.com (Zakariyya Mughal) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:40:58 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] March notes are online In-Reply-To: <20130317225920.6f6565dc@cygnus> References: <20130317225920.6f6565dc@cygnus> Message-ID: <20130318054058.GB16438@quadra> On 2013-03-17 at 22:59:20 -0500, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > The notes for the March technical meeting are now online. > > http://houston.pm.org/talks/mostrecent.html > Thanks for these! I haven't been able to make it to any of the meetings yet, but I hope to in the future. By the way, I forwarded the talk info to The Quantified Onion mailing list . They'll certainly be interested in this software. Cheers, - zaki > G. Wade > -- > "Mister Garibaldi, there're days I'm very glad I don't have to think > like you do." -- Ivanova, "And the Sky Full of Stars" > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From jellyson at gmail.com Thu Mar 21 09:09:37 2013 From: jellyson at gmail.com (John Ellyson) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:09:37 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: <514280DC.3070401@att.net> References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> <514280DC.3070401@att.net> Message-ID: Mike, According to the link below, ActiveState is now allowing PPM access for their community edition of ActivePerl mainly for the latest versions (>5.12). If you're paying for support for their business edition of ActivePerl, then they'll provide access to their PPM repositories for the older versions of ActivePerl. Based on the date of the FAQ, this appears to be something very recent that they have implemented. http://community.activestate.com/node/9565 John Ellyson On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote: > > On 3/14/2013 8:09 PM, Fraser Baker wrote: > > Hi John: > > Answers to your questions are below: > > But, your second comment rang true. Updating to 5.16.2 from 5.10 restored > ppm, and I was able to download the module I needed. > > Thanks > > Fraser > > > I have ActiveState v5.8.0 and ppm is working > fine. I now have HTML-GoogleMaps installed. > > I tried to upgrade a month ago and it installed, > but many of my programs were broken, or there was > some problem I couldn't easily fix, so I went > back to v5.8.0. > > My next move will be to Strawberry Perl, but I > haven't blocked out the time to do that yet. > > > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mikeflan at att.net Thu Mar 21 17:56:30 2013 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:56:30 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Error 401 Authorization Required In-Reply-To: References: <68268A348A4540B8B8B46B255EFCBC5C@CHEETAH> <52F921935FD2422B8201B7F501EF567E@CHEETAH> <514280DC.3070401@att.net> Message-ID: <514BAC3E.4050904@att.net> On 3/21/2013 11:09 AM, John Ellyson wrote: > Mike, > > According to the link below, ActiveState is now allowing PPM access > for their community edition of ActivePerl mainly for the latest > versions (>5.12). If you're paying for support for their business > edition of ActivePerl, then they'll provide access to their PPM > repositories for the older versions of ActivePerl. Based on the date > of the FAQ, this appears to be something very recent that they have > implemented. > > http://community.activestate.com/node/9565 > > John Ellyson Odd as it may seem, my PPM is still working in this 5.8.0 Perl. I just searched for 'search' and it got 114 hits. When I first enter PPM it says: PPM - Programmer's Package Manager version 3.1. Copyright (c) 2001 ActiveState SRL. All Rights Reserved. Entering interactive shell. Using Term::ReadLine::Stub as readline library. It will probably quit working one of these days. Mike From todd at rinaldo.us Wed Mar 27 21:36:34 2013 From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:36:34 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules Message-ID: I've got alot of experience installing perl modules both on windows and other platforms (no VMS). Earlier there were some questions on this, but now it sounds like most of them are worked out. Would you guys like to see something on this or do you feel you're good now? Alternatively we can just do a social thing next month. Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From estrabd at gmail.com Thu Mar 28 08:18:32 2013 From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:18:32 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] feeding the python in HPC/Big Data Message-ID: Wow. I remember when SciPy was trying to sell it sell itself at the DoD HPCMO conferences in the early 2000s. Since then, Python has it's established itself pretty firmly as the defacto scripting language in HPC...not that this prevents people from using Perl very successfully in this space (e.g.. PDL). http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/us-defense-agency-feeds-python/240151767 Brett From mikeflan at att.net Thu Mar 28 18:35:07 2013 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 20:35:07 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5154EFCB.60902@att.net> On 3/27/2013 11:36 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I've got alot of experience installing perl modules both on windows > and other platforms (no VMS). Earlier there were some questions on > this, but now it sounds like most of them are worked out. Would you > guys like to see something on this or do you feel you're good now? > > Alternatively we can just do a social thing next month. > > Todd Sounds like an interesting meeting topic that we should cover somewhere along the line. Mike From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 28 19:52:17 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I think it would be fun to cover tools like plenv, perlbrew, etc in addition to talking about how and where modules are installed and how that information gets stored in a given perl distribution. Yes, I suppose I am volunteering to cover plenv, perlbrew unless someone else really wants to. :) Mark ________________________________ From: Todd Rinaldo To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:36 PM Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules I've got alot of experience installing perl modules both on windows and other platforms (no VMS). Earlier there were some questions on this, but now it sounds like most of them are worked out. Would you guys like to see something on this or do you feel you're good now? Alternatively we can just do a social thing next month. Todd _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rurban at x-ray.at Fri Mar 29 07:33:03 2013 From: rurban at x-ray.at (Reini Urban) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:33:03 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > I think it would be fun to cover tools like plenv, perlbrew, etc in addition > to talking about how and where modules are installed and how that > information gets stored in a given perl distribution. I believe I already covered these topics on my perlall talk. perlall is just a better perlbrew using the default centralized locations and better patches and with lots of testing options. These were the slides from this talk: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iHWcrMFihWFn_h0hcsY7nzxTpEcaFiNwCAzlDJSvk0Y/edit#slide=id.i0 http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/RURBAN/App-perlall-0.35/perlall.txt > Yes, I suppose I am volunteering to cover plenv, perlbrew unless someone > else really wants to. :) -- Reini Urban http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ From mrallen1 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 29 08:35:53 2013 From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:35:53 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: References: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E3C8648-4611-4B08-B51B-F22A587BE495@yahoo.com> Cool. Thanks for the pointer. I guess I'm off the hook! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Reini Urban wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Mark Allen wrote: >> I think it would be fun to cover tools like plenv, perlbrew, etc in addition >> to talking about how and where modules are installed and how that >> information gets stored in a given perl distribution. > > I believe I already covered these topics on my perlall talk. > perlall is just a better perlbrew using the default centralized locations and > better patches and with lots of testing options. > > These were the slides from this talk: > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iHWcrMFihWFn_h0hcsY7nzxTpEcaFiNwCAzlDJSvk0Y/edit#slide=id.i0 > http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/RURBAN/App-perlall-0.35/perlall.txt > >> Yes, I suppose I am volunteering to cover plenv, perlbrew unless someone >> else really wants to. :) > -- > Reini Urban > http://cpanel.net/ http://www.perl-compiler.org/ From toddr at cpanel.net Fri Mar 29 09:25:25 2013 From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:25:25 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0D6EC51E-2953-47C6-B935-5331946AE96E@cpanel.net> On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > I think it would be fun to cover tools like plenv, perlbrew, etc in addition to talking about how and where modules are installed and how that information gets stored in a given perl distribution. > > Yes, I suppose I am volunteering to cover plenv, perlbrew unless someone else really wants to. :) > > Mark > I'm not just replying to Mark here, but I couldn't find a convenient way to interject. The subject is installing Perl modules. Are we discussing this or building distros? I guess I'm addressing this to the people looking for knowledge. Todd From flbaker at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 29 09:46:56 2013 From: flbaker at sbcglobal.net (Fraser Baker) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:46:56 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: <0D6EC51E-2953-47C6-B935-5331946AE96E@cpanel.net> References: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <0D6EC51E-2953-47C6-B935-5331946AE96E@cpanel.net> Message-ID: <5E9BB33C27F044089B6336A0F6CB39AE@CHEETAH> I am interested in a general discussion about Perl innards, particularly the installation of modules. I use Windows and PPM to install modules. When I encounter a module that is not in PPM, I am stumped. It doesn't appear to be that difficult, but I don't understand what make is all about ... or even if I need to use that. Fraser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Rinaldo" To: "Mark Allen" ; "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [pm-h] Installing perl modules > > On Mar 28, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Mark Allen wrote: > >> I think it would be fun to cover tools like plenv, perlbrew, etc in >> addition to talking about how and where modules are installed and how >> that information gets stored in a given perl distribution. >> >> Yes, I suppose I am volunteering to cover plenv, perlbrew unless someone >> else really wants to. :) >> >> Mark >> > > I'm not just replying to Mark here, but I couldn't find a convenient way > to interject. > > The subject is installing Perl modules. Are we discussing this or building > distros? > > I guess I'm addressing this to the people looking for knowledge. > > Todd > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From mikeflan at att.net Fri Mar 29 10:06:58 2013 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:06:58 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Installing perl modules In-Reply-To: <5E9BB33C27F044089B6336A0F6CB39AE@CHEETAH> References: <1364525537.99266.YahooMailNeo@web164001.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <0D6EC51E-2953-47C6-B935-5331946AE96E@cpanel.net> <5E9BB33C27F044089B6336A0F6CB39AE@CHEETAH> Message-ID: <5155CA32.8070803@att.net> On 3/29/2013 11:46 AM, Fraser Baker wrote: > I am interested in a general discussion about Perl innards, > particularly the installation of modules. I use Windows and PPM to > install modules. When I encounter a module that is not in PPM, I am > stumped. It doesn't appear to be that difficult, but I don't > understand what make is all about ... or even if I need to use that. > > Fraser When something is not in PPM, I used to go here: http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/ and could often find what I was looking for. Unfortunately, that site appears to be down. I think it was running fairly recently and it may come back up - I'm not sure. Here is another site that may help: http://trouchelle.com/perl/ppmrepview.pl Mike From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Mar 30 20:56:08 2013 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. 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