From mrdvt92 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  1 09:40:53 2013
From: mrdvt92 at yahoo.com (Michael R. Davis)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pm-h] Contributions to Perl modules
In-Reply-To: <20130729083202.531c5cda@cygnus>
References: <20130729083202.531c5cda@cygnus>
Message-ID: <1375375253.88509.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Perl Folks,
> I got into a conversation about contributing to Perl modules.
?
Before you contribute something to CPAN, please ensure that "YOU" own the copyright.? Most employers actually?own the copyright on "anything" you write based on?the documentation that you signed when you were hired. Hey you wanted the job. right?? My company's agreement is that anything that I write on my time on my own computer is my copyright, otherwise it's theirs.? 
?
Drag out those intellectual property agreements!? 
?
For you Federal Employees post away.? Anything you Feds write on your time is yours.? Anything you "work" on?during your "core" hours?is typically public domain (FOUO and classified are exceptions).? So, it's best to upload a stub to CPAN at night under your copyright then down load that stub and add public domain content to it during the public dollar time.
Thanks,
Mike
?
http://search.cpan.org/~mrdvt/
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu Aug  1 10:26:42 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:26:42 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Contributions to Perl modules
In-Reply-To: <1375375253.88509.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20130729083202.531c5cda@cygnus>
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
"Michael R. Davis" <mrdvt92 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Perl Folks,
> > I got into a conversation about contributing to Perl modules.
> ?
> Before you contribute something to CPAN, please ensure that "YOU" own
> the copyright.? Most employers actually?own the copyright on
> "anything" you write based on?the documentation that you signed when
> you were hired. Hey you wanted the job. right?? My company's
> agreement is that anything that I write on my time on my own computer
> is my copyright, otherwise it's theirs. Drag out those intellectual
> property agreements! For you Federal Employees post away.? Anything
> you Feds write on your time is yours.? Anything you "work" on?during
> your "core" hours?is typically public domain (FOUO and classified are
> exceptions).? So, it's best to upload a stub to CPAN at night under
> your copyright then down load that stub and add public domain content
> to it during the public dollar time. Thanks, Mike
> http://search.cpan.org/~mrdvt/

That's a really good point, Michael. Check your agreements carefully.
I've been told at companies before that everything I touch belongs to
them (didn't stay there long).

Many companies have reasonable agreement based on the concept that you
have to practice to get better at anything. It would probably be better
to practice at home than to practice on the production code.<grin/>

Even if the company owns the copyright, some companies are willing to
release non-core-business code as open source if they understand the
benefits to the company of doing so.

G. Wade
-- 
I've been living on the edge too long, where the winds of limbo roar.
                      -- "Veteran of Psychic Wars", Blue Oyster Cult

From estrabd at gmail.com  Thu Aug  1 10:43:11 2013
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:43:11 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Contributions to Perl modules
In-Reply-To: <20130801122642.540c9e8e@cygnus>
References: <20130729083202.531c5cda@cygnus>
	<1375375253.88509.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<20130801122642.540c9e8e@cygnus>
Message-ID: <CALSf6fS_fdY+8k_trN38OAnOHak=V6k6GOaRbusyA+vZQwxsqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
> "Michael R. Davis" <mrdvt92 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Perl Folks,
> > > I got into a conversation about contributing to Perl modules.
> >
> > Before you contribute something to CPAN, please ensure that "YOU" own
> > the copyright.  Most employers actually own the copyright on
> > "anything" you write based on the documentation that you signed when
> > you were hired. Hey you wanted the job. right?  My company's
> > agreement is that anything that I write on my time on my own computer
> > is my copyright, otherwise it's theirs. Drag out those intellectual
> > property agreements! For you Federal Employees post away.  Anything
> > you Feds write on your time is yours.  Anything you "work" on during
> > your "core" hours is typically public domain (FOUO and classified are
> > exceptions).  So, it's best to upload a stub to CPAN at night under
> > your copyright then down load that stub and add public domain content
> > to it during the public dollar time. Thanks, Mike
> > http://search.cpan.org/~mrdvt/
>
> That's a really good point, Michael. Check your agreements carefully.
> I've been told at companies before that everything I touch belongs to
> them (didn't stay there long).
>
> Many companies have reasonable agreement based on the concept that you
> have to practice to get better at anything. It would probably be better
> to practice at home than to practice on the production code.<grin/>
>
> Even if the company owns the copyright, some companies are willing to
> release non-core-business code as open source if they understand the
> benefits to the company of doing so.
>

That is not to say that code you write on _your_ time in a contract
situation is automatically "owned" by your customer. I believe it's yours
unless specifically transferred in some sort of formalized agreement.  I
could be wrong, but that is my understanding.

Brett


>
> G. Wade
> --
> I've been living on the edge too long, where the winds of limbo roar.
>                       -- "Veteran of Psychic Wars", Blue Oyster Cult
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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From mrdvt92 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  1 12:11:35 2013
From: mrdvt92 at yahoo.com (Michael R. Davis)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:11:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pm-h] Contributions to Perl modules
In-Reply-To: <CALSf6fS_fdY+8k_trN38OAnOHak=V6k6GOaRbusyA+vZQwxsqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130729083202.531c5cda@cygnus>	<1375375253.88509.YahooMailNeo@web120606.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>	<20130801122642.540c9e8e@cygnus>
	<CALSf6fS_fdY+8k_trN38OAnOHak=V6k6GOaRbusyA+vZQwxsqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1375384295.89010.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

> That is not to say that code you write on _your_ time in a contract situation is automatically 
> "owned" by your customer. I believe it's yours unless specifically transferred in some sort of 
> formalized agreement. ?I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.
?
For contractors, unless specified in the contract take the "photo" analogy.
?
You ask someone to take a photo of you at Disney World.? If you hand them your camera, then you own the copyright to the photo not the person taking the photo.? When they take a picture with their camera then they own the copyright.? So, for contractors that are "on site" the?"site" owns the code.? For contractors who are "off site" on their own computers they own the code unless specified in the contract.? Watch out for "ssh" and which computer you are actually "writing" code on; it makes a BIG deal and has never been tested in courts.? My guess is that if any?computer in the?string is not yours, you are in the gray territory.
?
> who are "off site" on their own computers
?
This always bothered me about Government contracting as contractors that are "off site" actually get higher rates because that have to pay for their own computers.? But, they charge the government by the hour for code written by the hour and then they own the copyright!? That's fleecing America.
?
Thanks,
Mike
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From lanny.ripple at gmail.com  Thu Aug  1 13:40:05 2013
From: lanny.ripple at gmail.com (Lanny Ripple)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:40:05 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Contributions to Perl modules
In-Reply-To: <1375384295.89010.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <20130729083202.531c5cda@cygnus>
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Most companies are going to be open to you contributing to open-source as
long as it's not interrupting your work.  Find out if they have an
open-source contributors policy.  Just ask your manager to sign off (or
send it up the chain to sign off) on your hobby that you want to be sure
doesn't bump into company IP/copyright policy.  I brought up open-sourcing
some bit of non-core tech before I started a project and got to develop it
as part of my job and then release it.  Just bring it up first and most
companies will be accomodating.  I totally agree with the above poster that
if they aren't then you might seriously consider if the place is where you
want to be for the long term.


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Michael R. Davis <mrdvt92 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> > That is not to say that code you write on _your_ time in a contract
> situation is automatically
> > "owned" by your customer. I believe it's yours unless specifically
> transferred in some sort of
> > formalized agreement.  I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.
>
> For contractors, unless specified in the contract take the "photo" analogy.
>
> You ask someone to take a photo of you at Disney World.  If you hand them
> your camera, then you own the copyright to the photo not the person taking
> the photo.  When they take a picture with their camera then they own the
> copyright.  So, for contractors that are "on site" the "site" owns the
> code.  For contractors who are "off site" on their own computers they own
> the code unless specified in the contract.  Watch out for "ssh" and which
> computer you are actually "writing" code on; it makes a BIG deal and has
> never been tested in courts.  My guess is that if any computer in
> the string is not yours, you are in the gray territory.
>
> > who are "off site" on their own computers
>
> This always bothered me about Government contracting as contractors that
> are "off site" actually get higher rates because that have to pay for their
> own computers.  But, they charge the government by the hour for code
> written by the hour and then they own the copyright!  That's fleecing
> America.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
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From mrdvt92 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  1 15:17:27 2013
From: mrdvt92 at yahoo.com (Michael R. Davis)
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:17:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pm-h] Perl tie variable to database then using local on it
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Message-ID: <1375395447.83258.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Perl Folks,
?> Has anyone attempted to tie a variable to Oracle's v$session values? Or any database value for that matter?
> DBD::Oracle::db DESTROY failed: ORA-03135: connection lost contact Process ID: 0 Session ID: 77 Serial number: 30453 (DBD ERROR: OCISessionEnd) during global destruction.
?
So, I got this to work kind of.? What I had to do is explicitly disconnect from the database before the database handle goes out of scope.? I'm not exactly sure why but the warning only happens when forking.? I use Parallel::ForkManager as my forking manager.
?
-? undef $self->{"sdb"}; #close connection before we fork
+? $self->sdb->disconnect; #close connection before we fork
+? delete $self->{"sdb"};? #Child starts fresh

"sdb" is a DBIx::Array object from my CPAN collection.
?
Thanks,
Mike
?
mrdvt92
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug  4 21:16:11 2013
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Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 23:16:11 -0500
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From estrabd at gmail.com  Thu Aug  8 08:43:11 2013
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:43:11 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] easy prep for Redis work queue demo tonight
Message-ID: <CALSf6fT4-V1chpgMaXZoQU05S_x1=RMHV=XMHaHNW2rHPZQu0w@mail.gmail.com>

I am leaving little to chance and demo'ing things using a Vagrant
multi-machine set up that anyone can use to set up the demo environment on
their own machine.

All the code is in github:

https://github.com/estrabd/houston-pm-redis-talk

The demo will require you install VirtualBox and Vagrant, after that follow
the instructions in the README.md; so this is a demo of Vagrant as much as
it is Redis :).

You'll find a functional Queue client library, a basic test suite, and 3
examples of use.

The library is good enough for tonight's talk. If it's found to be useful
or gains some interest, I can clean it up, write some POD, and wrap it up
into a CPAN module for easy installation. It might be a good basis for
others to get started.

The slides will be in Google Docs, and I'll have those ready for this
evening.

If you try it out and find problems before then, please let me know. I
don't plan on changing anything until after tonight unless it impedes
others running the demo themselves.

Thank you,
Brett
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From todd at rinaldo.us  Thu Aug  8 09:37:00 2013
From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:37:00 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Tonight's Houston.pm meeting
Message-ID: <CAG8vyGE0TiVpr_uiRKLVEZHX8SA9KUnBys-cwrSrQG5vzL_tZQ@mail.gmail.com>

This month's technical meeting will be conducted by Brett Estrade: "An
Introduction to Work Queuing with Redis.pm"

As usual, we will meet in the lobby at 3131 W. Alabama between 6:40pm
and 7pm. We'll go up to the conference room about 7pm. Parking is free
on top of the parking garage.

I hope to see you there.
Todd Rinaldo

From estrabd at gmail.com  Thu Aug  8 16:22:12 2013
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 18:22:12 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
Message-ID: <CALSf6fQbm3Gh34-8ezo9TruBm7jG23Qz1Bk3_aqZOscSs6qZsA@mail.gmail.com>

As done as it's gonna get!

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bfEOFUbnl8Ea9eObyIITXjqdwcwPvx-S7uNPklYu-ug/edit?usp=sharing

Brett
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From dsth at cantab.net  Thu Aug  8 16:46:33 2013
From: dsth at cantab.net (Daniel Hughes)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 18:46:33 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
In-Reply-To: <CALSf6fQbm3Gh34-8ezo9TruBm7jG23Qz1Bk3_aqZOscSs6qZsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSf6fQbm3Gh34-8ezo9TruBm7jG23Qz1Bk3_aqZOscSs6qZsA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Guys, It's my first meeting and I'm going to be about 15-20 minutes
late. Is it obvious how to get to the room? Thanks.

Dan.


Daniel S. T. Hughes M.Biochem (Hons; Oxford), Ph.D (Cambridge)
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dsth at cantab.net
dsth at cpan.org


2013/8/8 B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>

> As done as it's gonna get!
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bfEOFUbnl8Ea9eObyIITXjqdwcwPvx-S7uNPklYu-ug/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Brett
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
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From todd at rinaldo.us  Thu Aug  8 16:49:19 2013
From: todd at rinaldo.us (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 18:49:19 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
In-Reply-To: <CAP8X9uJEVnQ8tLFu6Gi5epENv6vKMa992z6hX7EUCLChuiPgeg@mail.gmail.com>
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I emailed you off list with my phone number

On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Daniel Hughes wrote:

> Hi Guys, It's my first meeting and I'm going to be about 15-20 minutes
> late. Is it obvious how to get to the room? Thanks.
>
> Dan.
>
>
> Daniel S. T. Hughes M.Biochem (Hons; Oxford), Ph.D (Cambridge)
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> dsth at cantab.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dsth at cantab.net');>
> dsth at cpan.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dsth at cpan.org');>
>
>
> 2013/8/8 B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'estrabd at gmail.com');>>
>
>> As done as it's gonna get!
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bfEOFUbnl8Ea9eObyIITXjqdwcwPvx-S7uNPklYu-ug/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Brett
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'Houston at pm.org');>
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>
>

-- 
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todd at rinaldo.us
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From estrabd at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 09:50:20 2013
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:50:20 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
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Thank you to everyone in attendance.

I did a screen recording of the talk and am in the process of uploading it
to Youtube. I send the link when it is done.

Cheers,
Brett


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Todd Rinaldo <todd at rinaldo.us> wrote:

> I emailed you off list with my phone number
>
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Daniel Hughes wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys, It's my first meeting and I'm going to be about 15-20 minutes
>> late. Is it obvious how to get to the room? Thanks.
>>
>> Dan.
>>
>>
>> Daniel S. T. Hughes M.Biochem (Hons; Oxford), Ph.D (Cambridge)
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> dsth at cantab.net
>> dsth at cpan.org
>>
>>
>> 2013/8/8 B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>
>>
>>> As done as it's gonna get!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bfEOFUbnl8Ea9eObyIITXjqdwcwPvx-S7uNPklYu-ug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Brett
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Todd Rinaldo
> todd at rinaldo.us
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From will.willis at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 16:02:33 2013
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 18:02:33 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
In-Reply-To: <CALSf6fTGXc8fv_zexNwAKrOAf5gXo57qFOe+TSOA7RiR-k45KA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSf6fQbm3Gh34-8ezo9TruBm7jG23Qz1Bk3_aqZOscSs6qZsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP8X9uJEVnQ8tLFu6Gi5epENv6vKMa992z6hX7EUCLChuiPgeg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFT=-5rvTtmL1VMCFKycnqd+BLKJW3f5OcBiwqPNZ5TfSCKzpQ@mail.gmail.com>

I really wanted to make this talk, but had other commitments.

Thanks for taking the extra time and effort to record and upload.

Looking forward to watching it!

Will
On Aug 9, 2013 11:50 AM, "B. Estrade" <estrabd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you to everyone in attendance.
>
> I did a screen recording of the talk and am in the process of uploading it
> to Youtube. I send the link when it is done.
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Todd Rinaldo <todd at rinaldo.us> wrote:
>
>> I emailed you off list with my phone number
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Daniel Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys, It's my first meeting and I'm going to be about 15-20 minutes
>>> late. Is it obvious how to get to the room? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Dan.
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel S. T. Hughes M.Biochem (Hons; Oxford), Ph.D (Cambridge)
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> dsth at cantab.net
>>> dsth at cpan.org
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/8/8 B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> As done as it's gonna get!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bfEOFUbnl8Ea9eObyIITXjqdwcwPvx-S7uNPklYu-ug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>> Brett
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Todd Rinaldo
>> todd at rinaldo.us
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
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From estrabd at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 20:53:42 2013
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:53:42 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
In-Reply-To: <CAFT=-5rvTtmL1VMCFKycnqd+BLKJW3f5OcBiwqPNZ5TfSCKzpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALSf6fQbm3Gh34-8ezo9TruBm7jG23Qz1Bk3_aqZOscSs6qZsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP8X9uJEVnQ8tLFu6Gi5epENv6vKMa992z6hX7EUCLChuiPgeg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAG8vyGEigjCHKz3FWX7ZyHM-JF+9tXqAY6pyYSyNfKewXNh1vA@mail.gmail.com>
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Here you guys go! The demo starts about 37 minutes.

https://vimeo.com/72078698

I added a PDF of the slides to the github repo.

Brett


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:

> I really wanted to make this talk, but had other commitments.
>
> Thanks for taking the extra time and effort to record and upload.
>
> Looking forward to watching it!
>
> Will
> On Aug 9, 2013 11:50 AM, "B. Estrade" <estrabd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you to everyone in attendance.
>>
>> I did a screen recording of the talk and am in the process of uploading
>> it to Youtube. I send the link when it is done.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Todd Rinaldo <todd at rinaldo.us> wrote:
>>
>>> I emailed you off list with my phone number
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 8, 2013, Daniel Hughes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Guys, It's my first meeting and I'm going to be about 15-20 minutes
>>>> late. Is it obvious how to get to the room? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Dan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel S. T. Hughes M.Biochem (Hons; Oxford), Ph.D (Cambridge)
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> dsth at cantab.net
>>>> dsth at cpan.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/8/8 B. Estrade <estrabd at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> As done as it's gonna get!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bfEOFUbnl8Ea9eObyIITXjqdwcwPvx-S7uNPklYu-ug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>> Brett
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Houston mailing list
>>>>> Houston at pm.org
>>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Todd Rinaldo
>>> todd at rinaldo.us
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Houston mailing list
>>> Houston at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sat Aug 10 06:55:24 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:55:24 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] link to redis talk slides
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Message-ID: <20130810085524.2f246190@cygnus>

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:53:42 -0500
"B. Estrade" <estrabd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here you guys go! The demo starts about 37 minutes.
> 
> https://vimeo.com/72078698
> 
> I added a PDF of the slides to the github repo.
> 
> Brett

Wow! Talk about going above and beyond. Thanks for the extra work on
this, Brett. 

I'm sorry I missed it, but I got rescheduled...

I'll get the Houston.pm website updated with the information this
weekend.

G. Wade
-- 
If you don't know where you're going, you will probably end up somewhere
else.                                          -- Laurence J. Peter

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 11 14:49:24 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 16:49:24 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] August presentation notes are on-line
Message-ID: <20130811164924.7bcc3c73@cygnus>

The notes for the August presentation are on-line
http://houston.pm.org/talks/

G. Wade
-- 
Experience isn't hereditary - it ain't even contagious.
                                                        -- John Gall

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 11 16:21:06 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:21:06 -0500
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From toddr at cpanel.net  Sun Aug 11 18:15:04 2013
From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:15:04 +0300
Subject: [pm-h] August presentation notes are on-line
In-Reply-To: <20130811164924.7bcc3c73@cygnus>
References: <20130811164924.7bcc3c73@cygnus>
Message-ID: <9E160FBF-A1C1-458A-89CF-0952AE3AE685@cpanel.net>

I've got a bad link clicking on that.

On Aug 12, 2013, at 12:49 AM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> The notes for the August presentation are on-line
> http://houston.pm.org/talks/
> 
> G. Wade
> -- 
> Experience isn't hereditary - it ain't even contagious.
>                                                        -- John Gall
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/


From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 11 19:17:01 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:17:01 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] August presentation notes are on-line
In-Reply-To: <9E160FBF-A1C1-458A-89CF-0952AE3AE685@cpanel.net>
References: <20130811164924.7bcc3c73@cygnus>
	<9E160FBF-A1C1-458A-89CF-0952AE3AE685@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <20130811211701.6c8ad7d4@cygnus>

On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 04:15:04 +0300
Todd Rinaldo <toddr at cpanel.net> wrote:

> I've got a bad link clicking on that.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2013, at 12:49 AM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > The notes for the August presentation are on-line
> > http://houston.pm.org/talks/

It looks like there was a hiccup when I copied the files. I'm also
getting a bit of slow response on the server.

It should be corrected now.

G. Wade
-- 
Understanding is a three-edged sword.      -- Kosh in "Deathwalker"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 18 16:35:39 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:35:39 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Any Takers for September Meeting?
Message-ID: <20130818183539.575c5dac@cygnus>

Our next meeting is on Thursday, September 12.

Does anyone have a topic they would like to present or a topic they
would like to see?

G. Wade
-- 
There will always be things we wish to say in our programs that in all
known languages can only be said poorly.             -- Alan Perlis

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 18 16:35:53 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:35:53 -0500
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From cblanc at dionysius.com  Wed Aug 21 08:13:03 2013
From: cblanc at dionysius.com (Chris Blanc)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:13:03 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Income by programming language
Message-ID: <CALMN4YrVhYciFRQoZWNrc_FB=ZGF9ybj8a01LAdCxOfYLtOM4Q@mail.gmail.com>

http://bpodgursky.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/average-income-per-programming-language/

Guess which does very favorably.

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From toddr at cpanel.net  Wed Aug 21 17:37:36 2013
From: toddr at cpanel.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:37:36 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Any Takers for September Meeting?
In-Reply-To: <20130818183539.575c5dac@cygnus>
References: <20130818183539.575c5dac@cygnus>
Message-ID: <A947BC13-319C-4A83-8E7A-141F1BCCB256@cpanel.net>

I vote for hangout with wifi and legalized meth. Starbucks?

On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:35 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> Our next meeting is on Thursday, September 12.
> 
> Does anyone have a topic they would like to present or a topic they
> would like to see?
> 
> G. Wade
> -- 
> There will always be things we wish to say in our programs that in all
> known languages can only be said poorly.             -- Alan Perlis
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/

Todd Rinaldo
toddr at cpanel.net



From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sun Aug 25 08:24:45 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 10:24:45 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Any Takers for September Meeting?
In-Reply-To: <A947BC13-319C-4A83-8E7A-141F1BCCB256@cpanel.net>
References: <20130818183539.575c5dac@cygnus>
	<A947BC13-319C-4A83-8E7A-141F1BCCB256@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <20130825102445.36e97b0b@cygnus>

On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:37:36 -0500
Todd Rinaldo <toddr at cpanel.net> wrote:

> I vote for hangout with wifi and legalized meth. Starbucks?

Does anyone agree?
If not, any other suggestions?

I'm not really a big Starbucks user, so I don't know for sure. The
ones I've been in would not be conducive to a group of more than 10
people. Have I just not been to the right ones?

G. Wade

> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:35 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Our next meeting is on Thursday, September 12.
> > 
> > Does anyone have a topic they would like to present or a topic they
> > would like to see?
> > 
> > G. Wade
> > -- 
> > There will always be things we wish to say in our programs that in
> > all known languages can only be said poorly.             -- Alan
> > Perlis _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> 
> Todd Rinaldo
> toddr at cpanel.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/


-- 
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made.                                          -- Otto von Bismarck

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Aug 30 14:37:41 2013
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:37:41 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] September Meeting?
Message-ID: <20130830163741.0bf9e454@cygnus>

Is anyone out there?

Todd has suggested Starbuck's or something for a social meeting.

Anybody else have an opinion?

I've had a few people ask about more beginner sessions, is there anyone
with a topic they would like to see?

G. Wade
-- 
They made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor.
                            -- G'Kar - "A Late Delivery from Avalon"

From randycollier.tx at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 14:19:43 2013
From: randycollier.tx at gmail.com (Randy Collier)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:19:43 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
Message-ID: <CADLq_7AuQr2QSaiZLUnkyHy_PttYWATd4ha3Lx9_ydRVxM5+aA@mail.gmail.com>

I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on my
mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things
worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module
libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when
uncommented).

Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice?

Thanks
Randy Collier
randycollier.tx at gmail.com
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From mrallen1 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 31 14:41:06 2013
From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
In-Reply-To: <CADLq_7AuQr2QSaiZLUnkyHy_PttYWATd4ha3Lx9_ydRVxM5+aA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1377985266.22074.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Are you trying to do modperl? Or are you just trying to play around with Perl in general?

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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From randycollier.tx at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 17:56:20 2013
From: randycollier.tx at gmail.com (Randy Collier)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 19:56:20 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
In-Reply-To: <1377985266.22074.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1377985266.22074.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F7E85C0-6D6E-4C2E-955D-E7886EAF66D4@gmail.com>

Hi Mark, 
I have installed mod_perl2 but I don't think it is installed for the perl that apache is using. 
I wish I was playing around but I am starting a new job and they use perl extensively.  I am a front end designer/developer and have an opportunity to work in the backend. I would like to use mysql and figure out how to install mods properly. Ultimately I would like to use restful web services using perl but I need to walk before I run.    

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 31, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Mark Allen <mrallen1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Are you trying to do modperl? Or are you just trying to play around with Perl in general?
> 
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
> 
> 
> From: Randy Collier <randycollier.tx at gmail.com>; 
> To: <houston at pm.org>; 
> Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues! 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 9:19:43 PM 
> 
> I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on my mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when uncommented).
> 
> Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice?
> 
> Thanks
> Randy Collier
> randycollier.tx at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
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From mrallen1 at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 31 18:11:37 2013
From: mrallen1 at yahoo.com (Mark Allen)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 18:11:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
In-Reply-To: <3F7E85C0-6D6E-4C2E-955D-E7886EAF66D4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1377997897.88809.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hey cool.

So my advice for getting started with Perl and the web is to eschew Apache completely.

Please spend an hour working through the Dancer Tutorial or if you prefer the Mojolicious tutorial.

http://perldancer.org

Or

http://mojolicio.us

Both of these frameworks are lightweight and easy to get going with whatever RDBMS you prefer.

Now if your $WORK requires mod Perl that's another kettle of fish but if you are just wanting to get some hands on experience, either choice will be much easier to install, learn, and understand.

Cheers

Mark

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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From estrabd at gmail.com  Sat Aug 31 20:37:04 2013
From: estrabd at gmail.com (B. Estrade)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:37:04 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
In-Reply-To: <1377997897.88809.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <3F7E85C0-6D6E-4C2E-955D-E7886EAF66D4@gmail.com>
	<1377997897.88809.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web164005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALSf6fSFZRHqai_uKBnzDZm1JZZWKJ-cPZrHzwQp0dXgD6jOsg@mail.gmail.com>

Apache + mod_perl2 is worth looking at when getting started, too. But
whatever you do, I would not do it directly on your Mac. I'd do it using a
VirtualBox image, maybe even via a Vagrant box (http://vagrantbox.es).

Brett




On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Mark Allen <mrallen1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey cool.
>
> So my advice for getting started with Perl and the web is to eschew Apache
> completely.
>
> Please spend an hour working through the Dancer Tutorial or if you prefer
> the Mojolicious tutorial.
>
> http://perldancer.org
>
> Or
>
> http://mojolicio.us
>
> Both of these frameworks are lightweight and easy to get going with
> whatever RDBMS you prefer.
>
> Now if your $WORK requires mod Perl that's another kettle of fish but if
> you are just wanting to get some hands on experience, either choice will be
> much easier to install, learn, and understand.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
>  ------------------------------
> * From: * Randy Collier <randycollier.tx at gmail.com>;
> * To: * mrallen1 at yahoo.com <mrallen1 at yahoo.com>; Houston.pm located in
> Houston, TX. <houston at pm.org>;
> * Subject: * Re: [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
> * Sent: * Sun, Sep 1, 2013 12:56:20 AM
>
>   Hi Mark,
> I have installed mod_perl2 but I don't think it is installed for the perl
> that apache is using.
> I wish I was playing around but I am starting a new job and they use perl
> extensively.  I am a front end designer/developer and have an opportunity
> to work in the backend. I would like to use mysql and figure out how to
> install mods properly. Ultimately I would like to use restful web services
> using perl but I need to walk before I run.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 31, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Mark Allen <mrallen1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Are you trying to do modperl? Or are you just trying to play around with
> Perl in general?
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>
>  ------------------------------
> * From: * Randy Collier <randycollier.tx at gmail.com>;
> * To: * <houston at pm.org>;
> * Subject: * [pm-h] mac apache and perl issues!
> * Sent: * Sat, Aug 31, 2013 9:19:43 PM
>
>   I am new to perl and have been trying to setup perl with dbd::mysql on
> my mac. I have tried macports, cpan and brewperl but only have made things
> worse. (I know this because when I comment out #LoadModule perl_module
> libexec/apache2/mod_perl.so in httpd.conf perl works and not when
> uncommented).
>
> Can anyone guide me getting my apache and perl to play nice?
>
> Thanks
> Randy Collier
> randycollier.tx at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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