From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Feb 2 06:06:56 2010 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 08:06:56 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] February Meeting Message-ID: <20100202080656.6b594839@sovvan> The pm.org websites, including ours are up and running again, thanks to the volunteers that keep the pm.org servers functional. Our next meeting is a week from today on Tuesday, February 9. We'll be meeting at 3131 W. Alabama St. like last month. Since no one has responded about a topic, I plan to pick up where Will left off last month with another intro topic. (Details as I figure out what I'm going to say.) Since an intro topic like this is pretty much open-ended, I'll also open it up to discussion and questions. If there's a part of Perl that you can't quite understand, or some technology that requires a little more explanation, feel free to bring questions to liven up the discussion. See you on Tuesday. G. Wade -- Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity. -- Alvy Ray Smith From fluhmann at gmail.com Tue Feb 2 13:15:47 2010 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 15:15:47 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Texas Linux Fest - Spread the word: registration now open! Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e1002021315q2a8e841aq3aff3420c50e5721@mail.gmail.com> FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM Subject: Spread the word: registration now open! To: texaslinuxfest at googlegroups.com Hi all, We're thrilled to announce that registration is now officially open! Just visit http://register.texaslinuxfest.org to get started. We have two ticket levels -- both include full access to the program, expo floor, and evening events. The supporter ticket is for those who can afford it, and helps underwrite the cost of putting on the event; that's $40 and in addition to the all-access pass you get the official Texas Linux Fest t-shirt and the conference bag. The enthusiast level ticket is for people who just can't swing full price, it's $15, and doesn't include either item. But, as mentioned, you still get to attend the talks and the booths. If you've been waiting, browse right over and dust off your keyboard, because this is your chance. Thanks to the hard work of our friends at SCALE and the always-helpful Paypal, we're using Paypal's Payflow process to handle payments, so we can accept VISA, Mastercard, American Express, and Discover. You do not need a Paypal account! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Feb 13 17:25:36 2010 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:25:36 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Talk notes for Jan/Feb are on-line Message-ID: <20100213192536.39e80911@sovvan> I have updated the website with the last two months talks. We don't have a topic for next month, yet. If you want to hear about something or you want to present let the list know. The other option is a social meeting. Opinions are welcome. G. Wade -- Computer language design is just like a stroll in the park. Jurassic Park, that is. -- Larry Wall From mikeflan at att.net Fri Feb 26 05:28:10 2010 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:28:10 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Can't Move to Linux Message-ID: <4B87CC6A.2020800@att.net> I would like to get any flavor of Linux installed to my older-generation computer. I have 2 old computers: x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 3 AT/AT Compatible 130,596 KB Ram Intel (R) 4 CPU 1400 MHz 130,352 KB Ram I know that x86 is a Pentium 3. I have tried 2 different downloaded versions of the single CD install: Fedora 12 i686-LIVE I don't want a dual boot - I want a clean install. I have tried it at least 15 times. It boots to the disk and gets to various places each time. Sometimes it freezes soon on the lemon icon blue screen. Usually it gets past that, sometimes to the "Press 'I' to enter interactive startup". It takes the 'I' I press, but never does anything after that. I have let it run all night, but it doesn't do anything else. I want to make a move from Win to Linux and need a starting point. Buying a new computer is not out-of-the-question, but I'd like to put that off until later if possible. I have an old Dell portable and a 64 bit Linux 2-yo portable I am also willing to use for this. I am open to any suggestions on what to do and what to use. Mike Flannigan From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Feb 26 05:36:28 2010 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:36:28 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Can't Move to Linux In-Reply-To: <4B87CC6A.2020800@att.net> References: <4B87CC6A.2020800@att.net> Message-ID: <20100226073628.389170f5@sovvan> Congratulations on making the transition. After bouncing around different distributions for years, I got a laptop a few years ago with Ubuntu on it. It worked so well, I decided to upgrade my desktop (>5.5 years old) and Ubuntu worked well there too. Although most of the distributions are heading this way, I've really been impressed with Ubuntu's ability to figure out the hardware and get the right drivers set up. Looking at your setup again, I suspect the issue is memory. Since most of the systems have gone graphical in everything (including installation), they might need more than 128K of RAM. I assume I'm not misreading that. (It's early.) G. Wade On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:28:10 -0600 Mike Flannigan wrote: > > I would like to get any flavor of Linux installed > to my older-generation computer. I have 2 > old computers: > x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 3 AT/AT Compatible 130,596 KB Ram > Intel (R) 4 CPU 1400 MHz 130,352 KB Ram > > I know that x86 is a Pentium 3. > > > I have tried 2 different downloaded versions > of the single CD install: > Fedora 12 i686-LIVE > I don't want a dual boot - I want a clean install. > > I have tried it at least 15 times. > It boots to the disk and gets to various places > each time. Sometimes it freezes soon on > the lemon icon blue screen. Usually it gets > past that, sometimes to the "Press 'I' to enter > interactive startup". It takes the 'I' I press, > but never does anything after that. I have > let it run all night, but it doesn't do anything > else. > > I want to make a move from Win to Linux and > need a starting point. Buying a new computer > is not out-of-the-question, but I'd like to put > that off until later if possible. > > I have an old Dell portable and a 64 bit Linux > 2-yo portable I am also willing to use for this. > > I am open to any suggestions on what to do > and what to use. -- Results are what you wanted, consequences are what you got. -- Michael VanDusen From mikeflan at att.net Fri Feb 26 05:57:07 2010 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:57:07 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Can't Move to Linux In-Reply-To: <20100226073628.389170f5@sovvan> References: <4B87CC6A.2020800@att.net> <20100226073628.389170f5@sovvan> Message-ID: <4B87D333.3080403@att.net> OK, thanks. I'll see if I can get Ubunto installed on one of my laptops. It won't be done this weekend, but I'll keep working on it. Mike On 2/26/2010 7:36 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > Congratulations on making the transition. > > After bouncing around different distributions for years, I got a laptop > a few years ago with Ubuntu on it. It worked so well, I decided to > upgrade my desktop (>5.5 years old) and Ubuntu worked well there too. > > Although most of the distributions are heading this way, I've really > been impressed with Ubuntu's ability to figure out the hardware and get > the right drivers set up. > > Looking at your setup again, I suspect the issue is memory. Since most > of the systems have gone graphical in everything (including > installation), they might need more than 128K of RAM. I assume I'm not > misreading that. (It's early.) > > G. Wade > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:28:10 -0600 > Mike Flannigan wrote: > > >> I would like to get any flavor of Linux installed >> to my older-generation computer. I have 2 >> old computers: >> x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 3 AT/AT Compatible 130,596 KB Ram >> Intel (R) 4 CPU 1400 MHz 130,352 KB Ram >> >> I know that x86 is a Pentium 3. >> >> >> I have tried 2 different downloaded versions >> of the single CD install: >> Fedora 12 i686-LIVE >> I don't want a dual boot - I want a clean install. >> >> I have tried it at least 15 times. >> It boots to the disk and gets to various places >> each time. Sometimes it freezes soon on >> the lemon icon blue screen. Usually it gets >> past that, sometimes to the "Press 'I' to enter >> interactive startup". It takes the 'I' I press, >> but never does anything after that. I have >> let it run all night, but it doesn't do anything >> else. >> >> I want to make a move from Win to Linux and >> need a starting point. Buying a new computer >> is not out-of-the-question, but I'd like to put >> that off until later if possible. >> >> I have an old Dell portable and a 64 bit Linux >> 2-yo portable I am also willing to use for this. >> >> I am open to any suggestions on what to do >> and what to use. >> > > From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Feb 26 15:08:07 2010 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:08:07 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Can't Move to Linux In-Reply-To: <20100226073628.389170f5@sovvan> References: <4B87CC6A.2020800@att.net> <20100226073628.389170f5@sovvan> Message-ID: <20100226170807.2e2c8333@sovvan> On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:36:28 -0600 "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: [snip] > Looking at your setup again, I suspect the issue is memory. Since most > of the systems have gone graphical in everything (including > installation), they might need more than 128K of RAM. I assume I'm not > misreading that. (It's early.) Gaaah! I meant 128M. I shouldn't answer email early in the morning. Feel free to send questions (to me or the list) if we can help. G. Wade -- "If everything's under control, you're going too slow." -- Mario Andretti From toddr at null.net Fri Feb 26 15:29:31 2010 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:29:31 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Can't Move to Linux In-Reply-To: <20100226170807.2e2c8333@sovvan> References: <4B87CC6A.2020800@att.net> <20100226073628.389170f5@sovvan> <20100226170807.2e2c8333@sovvan> Message-ID: <748c25c21002261529y4019711fs4e47897d68359a29@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 5:08 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:36:28 -0600 > "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > > [snip] > >> Looking at your setup again, I suspect the issue is memory. Since most >> of the systems have gone graphical in everything (including >> installation), they might need more than 128K of RAM. I assume I'm not >> misreading that. (It's early.) > > Gaaah! I meant 128M. I shouldn't answer email early in the > morning. > > Feel free to send questions (to me or the list) if we can help. > I know for a fact FC12 had issues with low memory. I installed it in a vmware environment and had to bump the memory for install. You can lower it after that. From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Feb 28 20:43:15 2010 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:43:15 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] March Meeting Message-ID: <20100228224315.176a6afe@sovvan> I updated the meeting page on the website, but forgot to mail the list. This month's meeting (Tuesday, March 9) will feature an overview of the different Perl web development frameworks presented by Robert Boone. If you are doing web development or would like to, this is a meeting you don't want to miss. The Perl frameworks range the gamut from relatively simple libraries that simplify a small part of the process, to comprehensive frameworks that rival anything you may have seen hyped over the last few years. I look forward to seeing you there. G. Wade -- Always hold a grudge. Keeps the memory sharp. -- Hagar the Horrible