From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Sep 1 20:51:15 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 22:51:15 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] September Meeting Message-ID: <20090901225115.0ee8ae24@sovvan> Well, the September meeting is just about upon us. Next Tuesday night would be our meeting. Our normal meeting location will not be available. Using our new DimDim solution, we could have a fully virtual meeting anyway. On the other hand, no one has volunteered to present and no one has suggested a topic that they would like to see presented. With a remote meeting, we could even have one of our members from Katy or Clear Lake present, if they are up for it. (Anyone...?) If no one volunteers soon, we might have a social meeting instead. There's not much time to decide, so let me know (soon) if you would like to present something. Either way, I'll let everyone know what we'll be doing before the end of the week. G. Wade -- Any time things appear to be going better, you have overlooked something. From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Sep 4 19:18:42 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:18:42 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] September Meeting Message-ID: <20090904211842.6a691d6a@sovvan> Since no one has volunteered to present for this month and our regular presenters are all busy, I'm going to declare next week's meeting a social one. We'll meet at the Fuddrucker's at 3929 Southwest Fwy (unless someone jumps in with a better idea). (Map: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3929+Southwest+Fwy,+Houston,+TX Feel free to join us for a good hamburger and (hopefully) good conversation, and maybe even a little coding. G. Wade PS. Andy (Lester), you are explicitly invited (since you commented on the last one). I'd even spring for the beverage of your choice if you can make it. -- Systems develop goals of their own the instant they come into being. -- John Gall From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Sep 8 19:50:53 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:50:53 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Upcoming Technical Meetings Message-ID: <20090908215053.76acddaa@sovvan> At the social meeting tonight, we discussed ways to bring some interest back to the technical meetings. Based on an idea that worked successfully in another programming group, we'd like to try a book review sort of approach. In the previous group, different people would volunteer to take a particular chapter or section of the book we had agreed on. That person would research their section and make a presentation to help the group understand the subject. We'd like to try something similar. Potential books to cover include: * Higher-Order Perl * Perl Testing: A Developer's Notebook * The new Catalyst book General Programming: * Pragmatic Programmer * Code Complete Feel free to suggest other books that we could cover. Depending on interest, we'll select one book to start with and start soliciting volunteers for the chapters. This is actually a great way to start presenting if you have never been comfortable with the idea before. This will also give us an opportunity to plan meetings more than a couple of weeks in advance. G. Wade -- "No Boom today. Boom tomorrow, There's always a boom tomorrow." -- Ivanova, "Grail" From mikeflan at att.net Fri Sep 11 19:34:19 2009 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:34:19 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Upcoming Technical Meetings In-Reply-To: <20090908215053.76acddaa@sovvan> References: <20090908215053.76acddaa@sovvan> Message-ID: <4AAB08AB.5090300@att.net> G. Wade Johnson wrote: > At the social meeting tonight, we discussed ways to bring some interest > back to the technical meetings. Based on an idea that worked > successfully in another programming group, we'd like to try a book > review sort of approach. > That's a pretty good idea. I like it. It's almost something you could do by e-mail, or blog, or whatever. I just ordered a book through the library on Perl and CGI. It's a 2007 book. I might try some other books on Catalyst and a few other topics later. I really don't know much about a lot of things, except I do know CGI already a bit. Mike From gwadej at anomaly.org Fri Sep 11 19:42:42 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:42:42 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Upcoming Technical Meetings In-Reply-To: <4AAB08AB.5090300@att.net> References: <20090908215053.76acddaa@sovvan> <4AAB08AB.5090300@att.net> Message-ID: <20090911214242.50e247e1@sovvan> On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:34:19 -0600 Mike Flannigan wrote: > > G. Wade Johnson wrote: > > At the social meeting tonight, we discussed ways to bring some > > interest back to the technical meetings. Based on an idea that > > worked successfully in another programming group, we'd like to try > > a book review sort of approach. > > > > That's a pretty good idea. I like it. > > It's almost something you could do by e-mail, or > blog, or whatever. A large part of the technical book review-driven presentation has to do with a good discussion that draws out information that the presenter has learned. Sometimes others have similar experiences that can help everyone's understanding of the topic. I can see that more with email than a blog. Email just seems more interactive to me. Maybe we can continue the discussion on the mailing list after the meeting. (I guess that means that I'll need to get the meeting on the list a bit quicker and more regularly.) > I just ordered a book through the library on > Perl and CGI. It's a 2007 book. I might try > some other books on Catalyst and a few > other topics later. I really don't know much about > a lot of things, except I do know CGI already a bit. One of the great things about this idea is it helps the presenter get more out of the book. There's nothing quite as useful for convincing you to dig into a topic than knowing that people are going to be asking you for more detail. Depending on the book, we might be able to have more than one person lead on different chapters/sections depending on the amount of material. Any interest in leading a discussion on your Perl and CGI book? (You don't have to answer now, just think about it.) G. Wade -- Trying to outsmart a compiler defeats much of the purpose of using one. -- Brian Kernighan and P.J. Plauger From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Sep 21 05:19:04 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:19:04 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] International Perl resources Message-ID: <20090921071904.61fa9617@sovvan> Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:54:44 +0300 From: Gabor Szabo To: PM Groups Subject: [pm_groups] International Perl resources I'd appreciate if you forwarded this to your perl monger list or just read it and acted on it. ----------------------- cut here ----------------------------- Hi, Maybe it is just me, who does not speak your language but I have no idea what Perl related resource are there in Turkish, Greek, Arabic or almost any other language. I think it would be important that perl.org or learn.perl.org or both make it easy for people who are less than comfortable in English to find resource in your language. So as a first step I setup a page on the TPF wiki to collect this information: http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?international_perl_resources Please update that page with a link to the "Perl Portal" in your language or if you have several important resources than add links to all of them. If you are too lazy to update the wiki, you can also send the link and the title in your language to me and I'll update the wiki. regards -- Gabor Szabo http://szabgab.com/blog.html -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support at pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- Never express yourself more clearly than you think. -- Niels Bohr