From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 7 16:56:00 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:56:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] June Meeting Message-ID: <20090607185600.5e333215@sovvan> This Tuesday, Todd Rinaldo will be presenting a preview of his YAPC talk on "Catalyst, DBIC, and TT for World Domination". If you are not going to YAPC this year, this would be a chance to see a little of what you're missing. As usual, we will meet at 1111 Fannin in the lobby between 6 and 6:20 and go to the meeting room from there. See http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html for more details. As a side note, who all are going to YAPC::NA this year? Thanks to cPanel, I'll be there. G. Wade -- "I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated rate." -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure" From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Jun 18 18:35:28 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. 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If you would like to stop receiving these newsletters or announcements from O'Reilly, send an email to marsee at oreilly.com. ================================================================ Forward this announcement - http://post.oreilly.com/f2f/9z1zv12tc25h3fhivj0t44ql6megngpqqvsa5861h60 -- I know I'm on the right track when by deleting code I'm adding functionality. -- John Carter From gwadej at anomaly.org Sat Jun 20 19:59:10 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:59:10 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Next Month's Meeting Message-ID: <20090620215910.45b1e4d9@sovvan> After a few conversations I've had recently, I'm wondering if people would be interested in a talk on exception handling in Perl. Used correctly, language supported exception handling can simplify some kinds of code and increase its correctness. Used badly, exceptions can complicate code and can reduce correctness. In Perl, there is more than one way to do exceptions. Any interest? G. Wade -- Cannot say. Saying I would know, do not know, so cannot say. -- Zathras - "The War without End" From robo4288 at gmail.com Sat Jun 20 20:35:23 2009 From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:35:23 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Next Month's Meeting In-Reply-To: <20090620215910.45b1e4d9@sovvan> References: <20090620215910.45b1e4d9@sovvan> Message-ID: I think it's a good idea. On Jun 20, 2009, at 9:59 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > After a few conversations I've had recently, I'm wondering if people > would be interested in a talk on exception handling in Perl. > > Used correctly, language supported exception handling can simplify > some > kinds of code and increase its correctness. > > Used badly, exceptions can complicate code and can reduce correctness. > > In Perl, there is more than one way to do exceptions. > > Any interest? > G. Wade > -- > Cannot say. Saying I would know, do not know, so cannot say. > -- Zathras - "The War without End" > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 21 06:30:57 2009 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:30:57 -0400 Subject: [pm-h] YAPC 10 Gotchas Message-ID: <748c25c20906210630r6dc7b70aje61c56165b003e11@mail.gmail.com> Just thought I'd help out my fellow Houstons before you hit the same hiccups I did. 1. Wireless access is impossible until you register. Don't bother to try. you need a user/password 2. Don't share the user/password or they see multiple macs and ban you. 3. Everything is at Newell-Simon hall but it's hard to get to because of construction. I highly recommend you review this map to prevent confusion http://tinyurl.com/yapc10 Call me if you have any questions. Todd From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 21 06:39:34 2009 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:39:34 -0400 Subject: [pm-h] YAPC 10 Gotchas In-Reply-To: <748c25c20906210630r6dc7b70aje61c56165b003e11@mail.gmail.com> References: <748c25c20906210630r6dc7b70aje61c56165b003e11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <748c25c20906210639g1502a00dg896ac411a917f5a2@mail.gmail.com> I've just been corrected on the map. This one's a little better: http://yapc10.org/yn2009/location.html On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Just thought I'd help out my fellow Houstons before you hit the same > hiccups I did. > > 1. Wireless access is impossible until you register. Don't bother to > try. you need a user/password > 2. Don't share the user/password or they see multiple macs and ban you. > 3. Everything is at Newell-Simon hall but it's hard to get to because > of construction. > > I highly recommend you review this map to prevent confusion > > http://tinyurl.com/yapc10 > > Call me if you have any questions. > > Todd > -- Todd Rinaldo toddr at null.net From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 21 06:48:20 2009 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:48:20 -0400 Subject: [pm-h] Next Month's Meeting In-Reply-To: References: <20090620215910.45b1e4d9@sovvan> Message-ID: <748c25c20906210648v2ce2130fna794f7bac8984e13@mail.gmail.com> I'm for it. Certainly I have done some strange stuff to standardize my own error handling. I'd love to see how others have tackled the problem. I'll even volunteer to talk about my stab at streamlining error handling via "Toss", which I should probably put out on CPAN just so someone can laugh and point at me. On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Robert Boone wrote: > I think it's a good idea. > > > On Jun 20, 2009, at 9:59 PM, "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > >> After a few conversations I've had recently, I'm wondering if people >> would be interested in a talk on exception handling in Perl. >> >> Used correctly, language supported exception handling can simplify some >> kinds of code and increase its correctness. >> >> Used badly, exceptions can complicate code and can reduce correctness. >> >> In Perl, there is more than one way to do exceptions. >> >> Any interest? >> G. Wade >> -- >> Cannot say. Saying I would know, do not know, so cannot say. >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? -- Zathras - "The War without End" >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > -- Todd Rinaldo toddr at null.net From mikeflan at att.net Sun Jun 21 09:40:36 2009 From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:40:36 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] Next Month's Meeting In-Reply-To: <748c25c20906210648v2ce2130fna794f7bac8984e13@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090620215910.45b1e4d9@sovvan> <748c25c20906210648v2ce2130fna794f7bac8984e13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A3E6284.8090202@att.net> Todd Rinaldo wrote: > I'm for it. Certainly I have done some strange stuff to standardize my > own error handling. I'd love to see how others have tackled the > problem. I'll even volunteer to talk about my stab at streamlining > error handling via "Toss", which I should probably put out on CPAN > just so someone can laugh and point at me. > Good one. That one had me laughing :-) Mike From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Jun 28 09:55:13 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:55:13 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting times Message-ID: <20090628115513.177e65a6@sovvan> I have heard from a few people off-list that they might be more interested in coming to the meetings if they were on a different day or at a different time. In the interest of potentially increasing the number of attendees, I'd like to propose the following questions: 1. Which days of the week would be good for you to attend Houston.pm meetings? 2. What times of the day would you be willing to attend Houston.pm meetings? 3. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the time/date? 4. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the location? If so, where would you like to see the meetings? Feel free to respond to the list or to me personally. If we have some interest in moving the meeting, we can attempt to select something that fits the group better. G. Wade -- The single most important rule of testing is to do it. -- Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, "The Practice of Programming" From toddr at null.net Sun Jun 28 09:57:04 2009 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:57:04 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting times In-Reply-To: <20090628115513.177e65a6@sovvan> References: <20090628115513.177e65a6@sovvan> Message-ID: <748c25c20906280957p42fa0140g205a317b255ff873@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote: > I have heard from a few people off-list that they might be more > interested in coming to the meetings if they were on a different day or > at a different time. > > In the interest of potentially increasing the number of attendees, I'd > like to propose the following questions: > > 1. Which days of the week would be good for you to attend Houston.pm > meetings? > > 2. What times of the day would you be willing to attend Houston.pm > meetings? > > 3. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the time/date? > > 4. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the location? If so, > where would you like to see the meetings? > > Feel free to respond to the list or to me personally. If we have some > interest in moving the meeting, we can attempt to select something that > fits the group better. > > G. Wade > -- > The single most important rule of testing is to do it. > ? ? ?-- Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike, "The Practice of Programming" > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > Day or location isn't really relevant to me. I think we've been doing 6pm mostly to give people time to travel from work. I would prefer we not start much later... Todd From Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com Mon Jun 29 08:32:15 2009 From: Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com (Haufler, Wayne A) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:32:15 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Perl Mongers meeting times In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1. Which days of the week would be good for you to attend Houston.pm meetings? 2. What times of the day would you be willing to attend Houston.pm meetings? 3. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the time/date? 4. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the location? If so, where would you like to see the meetings? I think you'd see a big jump in attendance (including mine) if you opened it up to virtual attendance, that is, setup a Webex session or some such. I brought this up before and I understand there are challenges, but there are also more tools and services (web-based) that provide for this (GoToMeeting.com?). I'd think most of us may even be willing to pay a modest club dues to pay for this. Advantages include gas money savings and drive time savings Disadvantages include less natural / more awkward conversations, less face-to-face networking (though those with webcams might could use them). Ok, I think there was a show-stopper or two when I brought this up last, but I forget, and am too lazy to look it up right now. Of course, virtual meetings might drastically reduce the number of physical attendees. Thanks, ------------------------------ -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- Wayne A. Haufler Senior Software Engineer (SE) In Space Shuttle Program (SSP) Backup Flight System (BFS) Displays & Controls Requirements Analyst Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston Voice: 281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 5475 E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com Boeing Toastmaster (Club 4908): VP Education _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston Website: http://houston.pm.org/ End of Houston Digest, Vol 55, Issue 4 ************************************** From moye at rice.edu Mon Jun 29 08:59:00 2009 From: moye at rice.edu (Roger Moye) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:59:00 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting times In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A48E4C4.8070107@rice.edu> I met some of the houston.pm group when YAPC was hosted here in Houston, but I have never been able to attend meetings. I use Metro's park and ride service to/from work. So a 6PM meeting means catching a late evening bus to go home which is impractical. Don't reschedule the meetings because of me but if there is a movement to have some of the meetings occur during the lunch hour then I would be in favor. Good luck! -Roger -- ======================================= Roger Moye Linux Cluster Administrator TeraGrid Campus Champion Rice University Dept. of Academic and Research Computing Research Computing Support Group (713) 348-5756 moye at rice.edu From toddr at null.net Mon Jun 29 09:02:56 2009 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:02:56 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting times In-Reply-To: <4A48E4C4.8070107@rice.edu> References: <4A48E4C4.8070107@rice.edu> Message-ID: <748c25c20906290902j1f06a1f5t28e4c7c491771968@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Roger Moye wrote: > > I met some of the houston.pm group when YAPC was hosted here in Houston, but > I have never been able to attend meetings. ?I use Metro's park and ride > service to/from work. ?So a 6PM meeting means catching a late evening bus to > go home which is impractical. ?Don't reschedule the meetings because of me > but if there is a movement to have some of the meetings occur during the > lunch hour then I would be in favor. > Good luck! > -Roger > I'm up for trying it, but especially since we're all over the city and because most meetings don't come close to lasting an hour, I don't see how we'd pull off lunch. Thoughts anyone? From toddr at null.net Mon Jun 29 09:09:51 2009 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:09:51 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Perl Mongers meeting times In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <748c25c20906290909vafdcaep153493ce0125b84f@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Haufler, Wayne A wrote: > I think you'd see a big jump in attendance (including mine) if you > opened it up to virtual attendance, that is, setup a Webex session or > some such. ?I brought this up before and I understand there are > challenges, but there are also more tools and services (web-based) that > provide for this (GoToMeeting.com?). ?I'd think most of us may even be > willing to pay a modest club dues to pay for this. > > Advantages include gas money savings and drive time savings > > Disadvantages include less natural / more awkward conversations, less > face-to-face networking (though those with webcams might could use > them). ?Ok, I think there was a show-stopper or two when I brought this > up last, but I forget, and am too lazy to look it up right now. > > Of course, virtual meetings might drastically reduce the number of > physical attendees. > > Thanks, > ------------------------------ > -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- > Wayne A. Haufler Wayne, I think one big item would be who's going to spring for the equipment/services. What do you propose? Also I think we should explore what this would be like. Are we just talking someone watching a talk? If so, there are many out there already, recorded at YAPC, etc. If you're looking for live chat, there's irc.perl.org or perlmonks. I guess as I talk this out, my feeling is that the meeting has immensely less value if it's not in person. This is just my 2 cents and I'm still willing to give it a try just the same. But I think these are some of the questions we should ask as we try it. Todd From will.willis at gmail.com Mon Jun 29 09:11:43 2009 From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:11:43 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Meeting times In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090906290905y1d8fb16o43f8d38ae4b4d466@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A48E4C4.8070107@rice.edu> <6ee1e6090906290905y1d8fb16o43f8d38ae4b4d466@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6ee1e6090906290911p9cfff8by72e6556e89a2d343@mail.gmail.com> I too ride the bus, leaving from the Kyukendahl park and ride. However on nights we have meetings I drive in. I'd be happy to take any 202,209,204 bus riders back to the Kuykendahl P&R after meetings. Just check in with me a day or two ahead of time. will On Jun 29, 2009 10:59 AM, "Roger Moye" wrote: I met some of the houston.pm group when YAPC was hosted here in Houston, but I have never been able to attend meetings. I use Metro's park and ride service to/from work. So a 6PM meeting means catching a late evening bus to go home which is impractical. Don't reschedule the meetings because of me but if there is a movement to have some of the meetings occur during the lunch hour then I would be in favor. Good luck! -Roger -- ======================================= Roger Moye Linux Cluster Administrator TeraGrid Campus Champion Rice University Dept. of Academic and Research Computing Research Computing Support Group (713) 348-5756 moye at rice.edu _______________________________________________ Houston mailing list Houston at pm.org http://mail.pm... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwadej at anomaly.org Tue Jun 30 16:14:03 2009 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:14:03 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Perl Mongers meeting times In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <20090630181403.0b270704@sovvan> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:32:15 -0500 "Haufler, Wayne A" wrote: > 1. Which days of the week would be good for you to attend Houston.pm > meetings? > > > 2. What times of the day would you be willing to attend Houston.pm > meetings? > > 3. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the time/date? > > 4. Would you come to the meeting if we changed the location? If so, > where would you like to see the meetings? > > I think you'd see a big jump in attendance (including mine) if you > opened it up to virtual attendance, that is, setup a Webex session or > some such. I brought this up before and I understand there are > challenges, but there are also more tools and services (web-based) > that provide for this (GoToMeeting.com?). I'd think most of us may > even be willing to pay a modest club dues to pay for this. > > Advantages include gas money savings and drive time savings > > Disadvantages include less natural / more awkward conversations, less > face-to-face networking (though those with webcams might could use > them). Ok, I think there was a show-stopper or two when I brought > this up last, but I forget, and am too lazy to look it up right now. > > Of course, virtual meetings might drastically reduce the number of > physical attendees. Since you've mentioned it, I'm doing a bit of research into the idea. In order to make this work, we need to identify required features in a system. In my first pass research, the most difficult requirement seems to be supported OSes. We have regularly had individuals come in with Windows, Linux, and Mac. Although many of the online meeting tools support Windows (usually with a download), and some support Mac, few support Linux. Features we would need/like to support this are: 1. Conference calling - without voice, the virtual meeting would be a bust 2. Screen/slide sharing - We normally use slides or demo some code locally. Slides are a minimum requirement. Screen sharing would be very nice. 3. Video mode - Handy to be able to see the speaker and such if we need to do examples on a whiteboard. Could be replaced in some contexts by with screen sharing. 4. IRC-style chat - Handy for taking notes and running questions 5. Free or low-cost - One of the problems with dues is that we don't really have an "organization" to deal with any income. I'm not sure the overhead wouldn't suck the fun out of Houston.pm So far, I've checked the following: 1. GotoMeeting.com - Seems reasonable if the presenter is on Windows (the next one won't be.) 2. GotoMyPC.com - Presenter should be in Windows, suggestion that it might work from Mac, does not work from Linux. - Viewer appears to work from Linux - Beta. 3. LiveLOOK at ShowScreen.com - Claims to support all three OSes. - Signup seemed to go pretty easily for the trial - Requested signup on a payment plan before trial started. 4. Skype - Now supports conference calls for free up to 14 people. - Available for all OSes - Has voice and chat - Does not support video on conference - no screen sharing 5. Ekiga (Was GnomeMeeting) - Runs on Linux - Supposedly connects with Windows Meeting software (unable to test) - No idea if it works on Mac. Any other favorites to try? Since I'm going to do the next meeting, I'm willing to be a guinea pig. We could even do some trial runs before the meeting (in two weeks) if anyone wants to help. G. Wade -- If it doesn't have to be right, I can make it arbitrarily fast. -- Rick Hoselton