[pm-h] Programmer Editors (was 'January Meeting')

[Kevin Jordan]

vim

i tried to learn emacs, but it hurt my head.  probably just didn't try it
long enough

-Kevin

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Robert Boone <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>        I think you are making the assumption that we have never used IDE's.
> I used to be a borland language
> junkie. I used Turbo Pascal, Turbo C++ and Borland C++ and their respective
> IDE's. It's not that I don't
> like some of the features of an IDE, but I prefer to setup my environment
> differently than most IDE's. I've
> been toying with Devel::PerlySense for a few weeks. It has lots of features
> that an IDE would have with out
> giving up the freedom to change the functionality as the situation changes
> or just as I learn more about
> programming.
>
>        Who knows, one day someone may write an IDE that works for me. But
> so far that hasn't happened.
>
> :)
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote:
>
>  On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Robert Boone <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> As you can tell I don't really care for IDE's, for me they mostly get
>>> in the way. I would rather build a working environment in an editor
>>> that let me do that in the way I think is best for me.
>>>
>>
>> I've gotta admit I'm surprised how many people feel a lack of interest
>> in access to IDEs. I find IDEs help me program/debug faster, as they
>> point out errors to me as I commit them, rather than 10+ minutes later
>> when I go to run the code. Usually there's little difference between
>> fixing the error before or after, but every once in a while, the
>> mistake is subtle enough that you end up spending much more time down
>> the road trying to figure out what tidbit of the code went wrong.
>>
>> I wonder... If Emacs/vim came with an IDE,  would you use and
>> appreciate it more? Both of your choices have their origins as
>> terminal editors. As a result, they do not readily lend themselves to
>> being an IDE. So I guess my question is whether this an accessibility
>> issue or truly it holds no value for you?
>>
>> Another thing occurs to me, which is we might not have a consistent
>> definition of "IDE" here. Most of these apps offer some features of an
>> IDE. The major one for me is code analysis, but it occurs to me that
>> syntax hilighting, etc. would also be components of an IDE, which
>> would make everything but Notepad an IDE :D
>>
>> Todd
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