From mikeflan at att.net  Thu May  1 05:27:07 2008
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 06:27:07 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080430191947.71ed6e37@sovvan>
References: <20080430191947.71ed6e37@sovvan>
Message-ID: <4819B71B.9010808@att.net>


I've been spending the last few days writing Excel files
with Win32::OLE.  It's tricky due to referencing.  I
really just stumbled into the solution last night.  I
thought I was using Spreadsheet::WriteExcel, but
discover I can comment that use line out and it still
works.

It's reasonably fast - prints a total of 23,000 rows
into 5 different Excel files in about 15 seconds.

One thing that I can't get to work no matter what I do
is setting column width
$sheet->set_column('A:A', 24);
or
$sheet->set_column(0, 0, 24);

No errors - just doesn't do the job.  I understand
Autofit is impossible to.  I'd also like to
switch to another worksheet and save the file while
in that worksheet.  I'm still working on this stuff.

Yeah, this isn't really true Perl, but maybe some other
people will find it interesting.

No - I'm not qualified to teach it :-)


Mike


G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> Meeting time is coming up fast.
>
> Does anyone have a topic they would like to hear about or would like to
> talk about for the meeting in two weeks?
>
> If you haven't been coming to the meetings because the topics weren't
> interesting, let the group know where your interests lie. Someone might
> be willing to present on that subject.
>
> G. Wade
>   

From kristoferhoch at yahoo.com  Thu May  1 04:58:07 2008
From: kristoferhoch at yahoo.com (Kristofer Hoch)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 04:58:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
Message-ID: <310919.50498.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've done exactly what you're trying to do.  Try this ...


$sheet->set_column('A:A', '24');

 

I don't know if putting it in the string will help you, but its the only way I can get rows to a certain hieght.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net>
To: "Houston.pm located in Houston, TX." <houston at pm.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 1, 2008 7:27:07 AM
Subject: Re: [pm-h] May meeting


I've been spending the last few days writing Excel files
with Win32::OLE.  It's tricky due to referencing.  I
really just stumbled into the solution last night.  I
thought I was using Spreadsheet::WriteExcel, but
discover I can comment that use line out and it still
works.

It's reasonably fast - prints a total of 23,000 rows
into 5 different Excel files in about 15 seconds.

One thing that I can't get to work no matter what I do
is setting column width
$sheet->set_column('A:A', 24);
or
$sheet->set_column(0, 0, 24);

No errors - just doesn't do the job.  I understand
Autofit is impossible to.  I'd also like to
switch to another worksheet and save the file while
in that worksheet.  I'm still working on this stuff.

Yeah, this isn't really true Perl, but maybe some other
people will find it interesting.

No - I'm not qualified to teach it :-)


Mike


G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> Meeting time is coming up fast.
>
> Does anyone have a topic they would like to hear about or would like to
> talk about for the meeting in two weeks?
>
> If you haven't been coming to the meetings because the topics weren't
> interesting, let the group know where your interests lie. Someone might
> be willing to present on that subject.
>
> G. Wade
>  
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu May  1 05:13:34 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 07:13:34 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <4819B71B.9010808@att.net>
References: <20080430191947.71ed6e37@sovvan>
	<4819B71B.9010808@att.net>
Message-ID: <20080501071334.6f28b75d@sovvan>

On Thu, 01 May 2008 06:27:07 -0600
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

> 
> I've been spending the last few days writing Excel files
> with Win32::OLE.  It's tricky due to referencing.  I
> really just stumbled into the solution last night.  I
> thought I was using Spreadsheet::WriteExcel, but
> discover I can comment that use line out and it still
> works.

I've used Spreadsheet::WriteExcel a little and I recall having problems
with the column widths. (Win32::OLE doesn't work under Linux.)

> It's reasonably fast - prints a total of 23,000 rows
> into 5 different Excel files in about 15 seconds.
> 
> One thing that I can't get to work no matter what I do
> is setting column width
> $sheet->set_column('A:A', 24);
> or
> $sheet->set_column(0, 0, 24);
> 
> No errors - just doesn't do the job.  I understand
> Autofit is impossible to.  I'd also like to
> switch to another worksheet and save the file while
> in that worksheet.  I'm still working on this stuff.
> 
> Yeah, this isn't really true Perl, but maybe some other
> people will find it interesting.

Being able to write spreadsheets from Perl is definitely interesting.

> No - I'm not qualified to teach it :-)

That never stopped me from presenting.<grin/> Seriously though,
presenting on a topic is not the same as "teaching" it. The purpose of
the presentation can be just to show others what you have done.

I've found that preparing for the presentation often teaches me new
things about the subject. The act of organizing it into a form I'm
willing to present helps solidify what you know.

If you were interested, I think this would be a good topic.

G. Wade
-- 
"If everything's under control, you're going too slow."
                                                   -- Mario Andretti

From toddr at null.net  Thu May  1 07:19:49 2008
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:19:49 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <4819B71B.9010808@att.net>
References: <20080430191947.71ed6e37@sovvan> <4819B71B.9010808@att.net>
Message-ID: <F234BF8E-033C-4985-8016-8C1BDEDC2761@null.net>

Mike,

As far as I'm concerned, what you're doing is true Perl. Many of us do  
perl at our job on a regular basis. The problems we discuss are often  
about a practical implementation of perl. For instance in your case,  
in addition to a presentation on what you're doing, it might be  
interesting to afterwards:

1. Discuss alternative approaches to the problem. I'm sure many of us  
have tackled excel with perl before
2. Discuss the "impossible" problem of auto-fit and how we might hack  
it to work.
3. Discuss the bug that 24 breaks and "24" works, possibly review the  
perl module and suggest a patch
4. Open document format and Excel's support for it
5. Excel's support for xml - would this support autofit?

To me, the meetings are just as great when we discuss practical  
problems as they are when we discuss abstract perl.

I would look forward to hearing more about your experiences with this  
module. Don't worry about the teaching part. I've presented before and  
I only play a teacher on television. They didn't laugh at my  
performance till I was out of the room *grin*.

Todd

On May 1, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:

>
> I've been spending the last few days writing Excel files
> with Win32::OLE.  It's tricky due to referencing.  I
> really just stumbled into the solution last night.  I
> thought I was using Spreadsheet::WriteExcel, but
> discover I can comment that use line out and it still
> works.
>
> It's reasonably fast - prints a total of 23,000 rows
> into 5 different Excel files in about 15 seconds.
>
> One thing that I can't get to work no matter what I do
> is setting column width
> $sheet->set_column('A:A', 24);
> or
> $sheet->set_column(0, 0, 24);
>
> No errors - just doesn't do the job.  I understand
> Autofit is impossible to.  I'd also like to
> switch to another worksheet and save the file while
> in that worksheet.  I'm still working on this stuff.
>
> Yeah, this isn't really true Perl, but maybe some other
> people will find it interesting.
>
> No - I'm not qualified to teach it :-)
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> G. Wade Johnson wrote:
>> Meeting time is coming up fast.
>>
>> Does anyone have a topic they would like to hear about or would  
>> like to
>> talk about for the meeting in two weeks?
>>
>> If you haven't been coming to the meetings because the topics weren't
>> interesting, let the group know where your interests lie. Someone  
>> might
>> be willing to present on that subject.
>>
>> G. Wade
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/

Todd Rinaldo
toddr at null.net




From will.willis at gmail.com  Thu May  1 11:24:32 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:24:32 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <F234BF8E-033C-4985-8016-8C1BDEDC2761@null.net>
References: <20080430191947.71ed6e37@sovvan> <4819B71B.9010808@att.net>
	<F234BF8E-033C-4985-8016-8C1BDEDC2761@null.net>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090805011124t2192dd8qda4b8cbd0b9a36a5@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto!

-Will

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:
> Mike,
>
>  As far as I'm concerned, what you're doing is true Perl. Many of us do
>  perl at our job on a regular basis. The problems we discuss are often
>  about a practical implementation of perl. For instance in your case,
>  in addition to a presentation on what you're doing, it might be
>  interesting to afterwards:
>
>  1. Discuss alternative approaches to the problem. I'm sure many of us
>  have tackled excel with perl before
>  2. Discuss the "impossible" problem of auto-fit and how we might hack
>  it to work.
>  3. Discuss the bug that 24 breaks and "24" works, possibly review the
>  perl module and suggest a patch
>  4. Open document format and Excel's support for it
>  5. Excel's support for xml - would this support autofit?
>
>  To me, the meetings are just as great when we discuss practical
>  problems as they are when we discuss abstract perl.
>
>  I would look forward to hearing more about your experiences with this
>  module. Don't worry about the teaching part. I've presented before and
>  I only play a teacher on television. They didn't laugh at my
>  performance till I was out of the room *grin*.
>
>  Todd
>
>
>
>  On May 1, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
>  >
>  > I've been spending the last few days writing Excel files
>  > with Win32::OLE.  It's tricky due to referencing.  I
>  > really just stumbled into the solution last night.  I
>  > thought I was using Spreadsheet::WriteExcel, but
>  > discover I can comment that use line out and it still
>  > works.
>  >
>  > It's reasonably fast - prints a total of 23,000 rows
>  > into 5 different Excel files in about 15 seconds.
>  >
>  > One thing that I can't get to work no matter what I do
>  > is setting column width
>  > $sheet->set_column('A:A', 24);
>  > or
>  > $sheet->set_column(0, 0, 24);
>  >
>  > No errors - just doesn't do the job.  I understand
>  > Autofit is impossible to.  I'd also like to
>  > switch to another worksheet and save the file while
>  > in that worksheet.  I'm still working on this stuff.
>  >
>  > Yeah, this isn't really true Perl, but maybe some other
>  > people will find it interesting.
>  >
>  > No - I'm not qualified to teach it :-)
>  >
>  >
>  > Mike
>  >
>  >
>  > G. Wade Johnson wrote:
>  >> Meeting time is coming up fast.
>  >>
>  >> Does anyone have a topic they would like to hear about or would
>  >> like to
>  >> talk about for the meeting in two weeks?
>  >>
>  >> If you haven't been coming to the meetings because the topics weren't
>  >> interesting, let the group know where your interests lie. Someone
>  >> might
>  >> be willing to present on that subject.
>  >>
>  >> G. Wade
>  >>
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Houston mailing list
>  > Houston at pm.org
>  > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
>  Todd Rinaldo
>  toddr at null.net
>
>
>
>
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  Houston mailing list
>  Houston at pm.org
>  http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From mikeflan at att.net  Thu May  1 16:41:33 2008
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:41:33 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <310919.50498.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <310919.50498.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <481A552D.6030600@att.net>


Kristofer Hoch wrote:
> I've done exactly what you're trying to do.  Try this ...
>
>
> $sheet->set_column('A:A', '24');
>  
>
> I don't know if putting it in the string will help you, but its the 
> only way I can get rows to a certain hieght.

Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work for me.  I tried almost
every combination of " " and ' '  around the A:A and the 24 but still
no good.  Then, on a lark I added width to the command:
$sheet->set_columnwidth('A:A', 24);
Still didn't work, but no error - it just ignore it.

Same with $sheet->set_columngobblygook('A:A', 24);
Runs and ignores it.  Very peculiar.

I'd like to see somebody else present this Excel writing
one of these months.


Mike


From toddr at null.net  Fri May  2 04:10:01 2008
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 06:10:01 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <481A552D.6030600@att.net>
References: <310919.50498.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<481A552D.6030600@att.net>
Message-ID: <6E583F30-6F52-4632-A9FA-B35FB101D379@null.net>

Mike,

If you want this as a topic, you're the man. We're not asking for you  
to be the expert. We're asking you to bring us up to speed with where  
you're at and then we can help you along. Are you willing to try this?

Todd

On May 1, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:

>
> Kristofer Hoch wrote:
>> I've done exactly what you're trying to do.  Try this ...
>>
>>
>> $sheet->set_column('A:A', '24');
>>
>>
>> I don't know if putting it in the string will help you, but its the
>> only way I can get rows to a certain hieght.
>
> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work for me.  I tried almost
> every combination of " " and ' '  around the A:A and the 24 but still
> no good.  Then, on a lark I added width to the command:
> $sheet->set_columnwidth('A:A', 24);
> Still didn't work, but no error - it just ignore it.
>
> Same with $sheet->set_columngobblygook('A:A', 24);
> Runs and ignores it.  Very peculiar.
>
> I'd like to see somebody else present this Excel writing
> one of these months.
>
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/

Todd Rinaldo
toddr at null.net




From mikeflan at att.net  Fri May  2 08:39:01 2008
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:39:01 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <6E583F30-6F52-4632-A9FA-B35FB101D379@null.net>
References: <310919.50498.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<481A552D.6030600@att.net>
	<6E583F30-6F52-4632-A9FA-B35FB101D379@null.net>
Message-ID: <481B3595.2000801@att.net>


Probably not.  Or at least not this month.  I'm going on vacation
soon.

It really would be better for somebody else to present
this.  I'm barely starting on writing to Excel.  I've been
reading Excel for years, but not writing until now.


Mike


Todd Rinaldo wrote:
> Mike,
>
> If you want this as a topic, you're the man. We're not asking for you  
> to be the expert. We're asking you to bring us up to speed with where  
> you're at and then we can help you along. Are you willing to try this?
>
> Todd
>
> On May 1, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
>
>   
>> Kristofer Hoch wrote:
>>     
>>> I've done exactly what you're trying to do.  Try this ...
>>>
>>>
>>> $sheet->set_column('A:A', '24');
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if putting it in the string will help you, but its the
>>> only way I can get rows to a certain hieght.
>>>       
>> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work for me.  I tried almost
>> every combination of " " and ' '  around the A:A and the 24 but still
>> no good.  Then, on a lark I added width to the command:
>> $sheet->set_columnwidth('A:A', 24);
>> Still didn't work, but no error - it just ignore it.
>>
>> Same with $sheet->set_columngobblygook('A:A', 24);
>> Runs and ignores it.  Very peculiar.
>>
>> I'd like to see somebody else present this Excel writing
>> one of these months.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>     
>
> Todd Rinaldo
> toddr at null.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
>   

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri May  2 16:32:41 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:32:41 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
In-Reply-To: <481B3595.2000801@att.net>
References: <310919.50498.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<481A552D.6030600@att.net>
	<6E583F30-6F52-4632-A9FA-B35FB101D379@null.net>
	<481B3595.2000801@att.net>
Message-ID: <20080502183241.0146e0c8@sovvan>

On Fri, 02 May 2008 09:39:01 -0600
Mike Flannigan <mikeflan at att.net> wrote:

> 
> Probably not.  Or at least not this month.  I'm going on vacation
> soon.
> 
> It really would be better for somebody else to present
> this.  I'm barely starting on writing to Excel.  I've been
> reading Excel for years, but not writing until now.

Reading Excel would be a good topic, too.<grin/>

G. Wade

> Mike
> 
> 
> Todd Rinaldo wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > If you want this as a topic, you're the man. We're not asking for
> > you to be the expert. We're asking you to bring us up to speed with
> > where you're at and then we can help you along. Are you willing to
> > try this?
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On May 1, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Kristofer Hoch wrote:
> >>     
> >>> I've done exactly what you're trying to do.  Try this ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> $sheet->set_column('A:A', '24');
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if putting it in the string will help you, but its
> >>> the only way I can get rows to a certain hieght.
> >>>       
> >> Thanks for the advice, but it didn't work for me.  I tried almost
> >> every combination of " " and ' '  around the A:A and the 24 but
> >> still no good.  Then, on a lark I added width to the command:
> >> $sheet->set_columnwidth('A:A', 24);
> >> Still didn't work, but no error - it just ignore it.
> >>
> >> Same with $sheet->set_columngobblygook('A:A', 24);
> >> Runs and ignores it.  Very peculiar.
> >>
> >> I'd like to see somebody else present this Excel writing
> >> one of these months.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Houston mailing list
> >> Houston at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >>     
> >
> > Todd Rinaldo
> > toddr at null.net
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >
> >   
> _______________________________________________
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> Houston at pm.org
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From rlharris at oplink.net  Wed May  7 11:05:37 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:05:37 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
Message-ID: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>

I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any other
perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.

I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
"assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.

Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.

It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this is a
bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed with a
single keystroke.

RLH

From will.willis at gmail.com  Wed May  7 11:16:09 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:16:09 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>

Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with *.p[l|m]
files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing, e.g.:

   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))

then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.

-Will

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Russell L. Harris <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
> I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any other
>  perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.
>
>  I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
>  "assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.
>
>  Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
>  automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.
>
>  It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this is a
>  bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
>  latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed with a
>  single keystroke.
>
>  RLH
>  _______________________________________________
>  Houston mailing list
>  Houston at pm.org
>  http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From rlharris at oplink.net  Wed May  7 12:45:24 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:45:24 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
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* Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> [080507 13:21]:
> Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with *.p[l|m]
> files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing, e.g.:
> 
>    (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>    (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
> 
> then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.

I used "find" to search for .emacs* and for .xemacs* ; the only
configuration files which I found were in my home directory, and
neither contained references to perl.

I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an i386 machine.

RLH

From will.willis at gmail.com  Wed May  7 17:18:16 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:18:16 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <20080507194524.GA28374@tmiaf>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080507194524.GA28374@tmiaf>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090805071718g11d6f6cfi6bdf7afea003f35d@mail.gmail.com>

If you cant find a .emacs (or .xemacs, if that's the case) then create
it in your home directory. Then add this line:

(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . latex-mode))

and files (and new buffers) opened with a .pl extension will open in latex-mode.

-Will


On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Russell L. Harris <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
> * Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> [080507 13:21]:
>
> > Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with *.p[l|m]
>  > files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing, e.g.:
>  >
>  >    (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>  >    (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>  >
>  > then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>
>  I used "find" to search for .emacs* and for .xemacs* ; the only
>  configuration files which I found were in my home directory, and
>  neither contained references to perl.
>
>  I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an i386 machine.
>
>
>
>  RLH
>  _______________________________________________
>  Houston mailing list
>  Houston at pm.org
>  http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From will.willis at gmail.com  Wed May  7 17:28:43 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:28:43 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] yapchouston.org expiring soon
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090805071728i333fd49bw758dc583d5e45255@mail.gmail.com>

yapchouston.org is expiring soon... Can anyone come up with a good
justification for keeping the domain registered?

Otherwise, unless one of you wants it, or you'd like to sponsor the
renewal for $n years, I think I'll just let it expire.

-Will

From andy at petdance.com  Wed May  7 17:30:06 2008
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:30:06 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] yapchouston.org expiring soon
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090805071728i333fd49bw758dc583d5e45255@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6ee1e6090805071728i333fd49bw758dc583d5e45255@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B61EF69-7A3F-427C-B506-1BBF25617F4C@petdance.com>


On May 7, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Will Willis wrote:

> yapchouston.org is expiring soon... Can anyone come up with a good
> justification for keeping the domain registered?
>
> Otherwise, unless one of you wants it, or you'd like to sponsor the
> renewal for $n years, I think I'll just let it expire.


I'd ask the TPF conferences committee specifically if they wanted to  
keep it.

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From rlharris at oplink.net  Wed May  7 17:51:23 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:51:23 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090805071718g11d6f6cfi6bdf7afea003f35d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080507194524.GA28374@tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071718g11d6f6cfi6bdf7afea003f35d@mail.gmail.com>
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* Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> [080507 19:21]:
> If you cant find a .emacs (or .xemacs, if that's the case) then create
> it in your home directory. Then add this line:
> 
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . latex-mode))
> 
> and files (and new buffers) opened with a .pl extension will open in latex-mode.

Many thanks, Will.  What a relief it is to be back in LaTeX mode
automatically when loading a Perl script!  Perhaps I would come to
appreciate Emacs perl mode if I used Perl on a daily basis, but my
daily routine revolves around LaTeX.

Now if only I could find a way within xkb to disable the numeric-lock
key -- truly "the key from Hell" if there ever was one.  I use the
numeric pad to move the cursor, so I hit the numeric lock key
inadvertently a dozen or so times a day.  But it appears as if epoxy
is the only immediate solution.

RLH


From toddr at null.net  Wed May  7 23:40:01 2008
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 01:40:01 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61E064AC-F79A-4FC8-91CC-DA28C2F91BFD@null.net>

heh. Now I know how to turn on cperl mode for .t files. Thanks!

On May 7, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Will Willis wrote:

> Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with *.p[l|m]
> files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing, e.g.:
>
>   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>
> then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>
> -Will
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Russell L. Harris  
> <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
>> I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any other
>> perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.
>>
>> I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
>> "assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.
>>
>> Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
>> automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.
>>
>> It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this  
>> is a
>> bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
>> latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed with a
>> single keystroke.
>>
>> RLH
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/

Todd Rinaldo
toddr at null.net




From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu May  8 05:19:59 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:19:59 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <61E064AC-F79A-4FC8-91CC-DA28C2F91BFD@null.net>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20080508071959.19da19e6@sovvan>

I have a thought. Will, how would you like to give us some tips and
tricks on using emacs at some point?

We had a talk a couple years ago about vi, but no one came forward to
do emacs.

G. Wade

On Thu, 8 May 2008 01:40:01 -0500
Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:

> heh. Now I know how to turn on cperl mode for .t files. Thanks!
> 
> On May 7, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Will Willis wrote:
> 
> > Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with
> > *.p[l|m] files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing,
> > e.g.:
> >
> >   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
> >   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
> >
> > then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
> >
> > -Will
> >
> > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Russell L. Harris  
> > <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
> >> I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any
> >> other perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.
> >>
> >> I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
> >> "assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.
> >>
> >> Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
> >> automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.
> >>
> >> It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this  
> >> is a
> >> bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
> >> latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed
> >> with a single keystroke.
> >>
> >> RLH
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Houston mailing list
> >> Houston at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Houston mailing list
> > Houston at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
> 
> Todd Rinaldo
> toddr at null.net
> 
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:19:12 -0500
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If you cant find a .emacs (or .xemacs, if that's the case) then create
it in your home directory. Then add this line:

(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . latex-mode))

and files (and new buffers) opened with a .pl extension will open in
latex-mode.

-Will


On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Russell L. Harris <rlharris at oplink.net>
wrote:
> * Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> [080507 13:21]:
>
> > Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with *.p[l|m]
>  > files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing, e.g.:
>  >
>  >    (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>  >    (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>  >
>  > then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>
>  I used "find" to search for .emacs* and for .xemacs* ; the only
>  configuration files which I found were in my home directory, and
>  neither contained references to perl.
>
>  I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an i386 machine.
>
>
>
>  RLH
>  _______________________________________________
>  Houston mailing list
>  Houston at pm.org
>  http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
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From will.willis at gmail.com  Thu May  8 07:29:46 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:29:46 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <20080508071959.19da19e6@sovvan>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<61E064AC-F79A-4FC8-91CC-DA28C2F91BFD@null.net>
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Message-ID: <6ee1e6090805080729o72ccc5b7nb6f3f7b5cd2431fa@mail.gmail.com>

That'd be fun, here's a rough outline:

* emacs, 101
  * commands
  * config file
  * modes
  * macros
  * shell-mode
  * org-mode
* working with perl in emacs
  * cperl-mode
  * perltidy-mode
* emacs commands in the terminal (that didn't know you knew)

I gave a presentation just last week to my coworkers on GNU Screen, so
I could potentially present on that too.

How many of you out there would be interested in an emacs and/or GNU
Screen presentation?


-Will


On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:19 AM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> I have a thought. Will, how would you like to give us some tips and
>  tricks on using emacs at some point?
>
>  We had a talk a couple years ago about vi, but no one came forward to
>  do emacs.
>
>  G. Wade
>
>
>
>  On Thu, 8 May 2008 01:40:01 -0500
>  Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:
>
>  > heh. Now I know how to turn on cperl mode for .t files. Thanks!
>  >
>  > On May 7, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Will Willis wrote:
>  >
>  > > Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with
>  > > *.p[l|m] files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing,
>  > > e.g.:
>  > >
>  > >   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>  > >   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>  > >
>  > > then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>  > >
>  > > -Will
>  > >
>  > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Russell L. Harris
>  > > <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
>  > >> I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any
>  > >> other perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.
>  > >>
>  > >> I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
>  > >> "assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.
>  > >>
>  > >> Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
>  > >> automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.
>  > >>
>  > >> It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this
>  > >> is a
>  > >> bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
>  > >> latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed
>  > >> with a single keystroke.
>  > >>
>  > >> RLH
>  > >> _______________________________________________
>  > >> Houston mailing list
>  > >> Houston at pm.org
>  > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  > >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>  > >>
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > Houston mailing list
>  > > Houston at pm.org
>  > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>  >
>  > Todd Rinaldo
>  > toddr at null.net
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Houston mailing list
>  > Houston at pm.org
>  > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
>
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>  and enjoying the trip. It's more important to be a good driver than to
>  have seven feet of sponge rubber all around your car.       -- Larry
>  Wall
>
>
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From robo4288 at gmail.com  Thu May  8 07:54:08 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:54:08 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
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References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
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I would like to see presentations on both. I use screen but I have
always wanted to learn more about emacs...


On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:
> That'd be fun, here's a rough outline:
>
> * emacs, 101
>  * commands
>  * config file
>  * modes
>  * macros
>  * shell-mode
>  * org-mode
> * working with perl in emacs
>  * cperl-mode
>  * perltidy-mode
> * emacs commands in the terminal (that didn't know you knew)
>
> I gave a presentation just last week to my coworkers on GNU Screen, so
> I could potentially present on that too.
>
> How many of you out there would be interested in an emacs and/or GNU
> Screen presentation?
>
>
> -Will
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:19 AM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
>> I have a thought. Will, how would you like to give us some tips and
>>  tricks on using emacs at some point?
>>
>>  We had a talk a couple years ago about vi, but no one came forward to
>>  do emacs.
>>
>>  G. Wade
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, 8 May 2008 01:40:01 -0500
>>  Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:
>>
>>  > heh. Now I know how to turn on cperl mode for .t files. Thanks!
>>  >
>>  > On May 7, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Will Willis wrote:
>>  >
>>  > > Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with
>>  > > *.p[l|m] files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing,
>>  > > e.g.:
>>  > >
>>  > >   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>>  > >   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>>  > >
>>  > > then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>>  > >
>>  > > -Will
>>  > >
>>  > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Russell L. Harris
>>  > > <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
>>  > >> I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any
>>  > >> other perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
>>  > >> "assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
>>  > >> automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this
>>  > >> is a
>>  > >> bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
>>  > >> latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed
>>  > >> with a single keystroke.
>>  > >>
>>  > >> RLH
>>  > >> _______________________________________________
>>  > >> Houston mailing list
>>  > >> Houston at pm.org
>>  > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>  > >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>  > >>
>>  > > _______________________________________________
>>  > > Houston mailing list
>>  > > Houston at pm.org
>>  > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>>  > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>>  >
>>  > Todd Rinaldo
>>  > toddr at null.net
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > _______________________________________________
>>  > Houston mailing list
>>  > Houston at pm.org
>>  > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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From toddr at null.net  Thu May  8 09:30:07 2008
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:30:07 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] question - unsubscribe
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You have been unsubscribed

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>
> Will,
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>                                       Re: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in
>             05/07/2008 07:18          emacs
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>
>
>             Please respond to
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>
> If you cant find a .emacs (or .xemacs, if that's the case) then create
> it in your home directory. Then add this line:
>
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . latex-mode))
>
> and files (and new buffers) opened with a .pl extension will open in
> latex-mode.
>
> -Will
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Russell L. Harris  
> <rlharris at oplink.net>
> wrote:
>> * Will Willis <will.willis at gmail.com> [080507 13:21]:
>>
>>> Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with *.p[l| 
>>> m]
>>> files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing, e.g.:
>>>
>>>   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>>>   (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>>>
>>> then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>>
>> I used "find" to search for .emacs* and for .xemacs* ; the only
>> configuration files which I found were in my home directory, and
>> neither contained references to perl.
>>
>> I am running Debian GNU/Linux on an i386 machine.
>>
>>
>>
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From toddr at null.net  Thu May  8 09:30:59 2008
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:30:59 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090805080729o72ccc5b7nb6f3f7b5cd2431fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<61E064AC-F79A-4FC8-91CC-DA28C2F91BFD@null.net>
	<20080508071959.19da19e6@sovvan>
	<6ee1e6090805080729o72ccc5b7nb6f3f7b5cd2431fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26AA7F60-553C-4688-AFBA-0A69B52A2FCF@null.net>

Sounds like a plan.

On May 8, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Will Willis wrote:

> That'd be fun, here's a rough outline:
>
> * emacs, 101
>  * commands
>  * config file
>  * modes
>  * macros
>  * shell-mode
>  * org-mode
> * working with perl in emacs
>  * cperl-mode
>  * perltidy-mode
> * emacs commands in the terminal (that didn't know you knew)
>
> I gave a presentation just last week to my coworkers on GNU Screen, so
> I could potentially present on that too.
>
> How many of you out there would be interested in an emacs and/or GNU
> Screen presentation?
>
>
> -Will
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:19 AM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org>  
> wrote:
>> I have a thought. Will, how would you like to give us some tips and
>> tricks on using emacs at some point?
>>
>> We had a talk a couple years ago about vi, but no one came forward to
>> do emacs.
>>
>> G. Wade
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 8 May 2008 01:40:01 -0500
>> Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:
>>
>>> heh. Now I know how to turn on cperl mode for .t files. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Will Willis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chances are, your .emacs file has cperl-mode associated with
>>>> *.p[l|m] files on start. Look in that file, see what it's doing,
>>>> e.g.:
>>>>
>>>>  (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pl\\'" . cperl-mode))
>>>>  (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.pm\\'" . cperl-mode))
>>>>
>>>> then just change cperl-mode to whatever mode you want.
>>>>
>>>> -Will
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Russell L. Harris
>>>> <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
>>>>> I would like to prevent XEmacs from entering CPerl mode (or any
>>>>> other perl mode) whenever a perl script is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> I normally use XEmacs in LaTeX mode, and I find a hindrance the
>>>>> "assistance" and "automation" which CPerl mode attempts to impose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regrettably, I have not yet been able to figure out how to prevent
>>>>> automatic entry of CPerl mode when a perl script is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is possible to change the mode once a file is loaded, but this
>>>>> is a
>>>>> bother.  Perhaps a reasonable fix is to bind the command "M-x
>>>>> latex-mode" to a function key, so that the mode can be changed
>>>>> with a single keystroke.
>>>>>
>>>>> RLH
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>>>>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Perl isn't really about safety. It's about getting where you're  
>> going,
>> and enjoying the trip. It's more important to be a good driver than  
>> to
>> have seven feet of sponge rubber all around your car.       -- Larry
>> Wall
>>
>>
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>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu May  8 16:30:46 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 18:30:46 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090805080729o72ccc5b7nb6f3f7b5cd2431fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<61E064AC-F79A-4FC8-91CC-DA28C2F91BFD@null.net>
	<20080508071959.19da19e6@sovvan>
	<6ee1e6090805080729o72ccc5b7nb6f3f7b5cd2431fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080508183046.2908b749@sovvan>

On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:29:46 -0500
"Will Willis" <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:

> That'd be fun, here's a rough outline:
> 
> * emacs, 101
>   * commands
>   * config file
>   * modes
>   * macros
>   * shell-mode
>   * org-mode
> * working with perl in emacs
>   * cperl-mode
>   * perltidy-mode
> * emacs commands in the terminal (that didn't know you knew)
> 
> I gave a presentation just last week to my coworkers on GNU Screen, so
> I could potentially present on that too.
> 
> How many of you out there would be interested in an emacs and/or GNU
> Screen presentation?

I would enjoy either (or both) despite not being an emacs guy.

G. Wade
-- 
You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a violent
psychopath who knows where you live.                -- John F. Woods

From toddr at null.net  Fri May  9 05:48:33 2008
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:48:33 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] turn off perl mode in emacs
In-Reply-To: <20080508183046.2908b749@sovvan>
References: <20080507180537.GE3524@samantha.tmiaf>
	<6ee1e6090805071116r6b3101a7o2ebfa06848a176b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<61E064AC-F79A-4FC8-91CC-DA28C2F91BFD@null.net>
	<20080508071959.19da19e6@sovvan>
	<6ee1e6090805080729o72ccc5b7nb6f3f7b5cd2431fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080508183046.2908b749@sovvan>
Message-ID: <424F87F3-073C-493A-975C-4DAE0A4B919E@null.net>

Well, :q! to you too! *grin*

On May 8, 2008, at 6:30 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

> On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:29:46 -0500
> "Will Willis" <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That'd be fun, here's a rough outline:
>>
>> * emacs, 101
>>  * commands
>>  * config file
>>  * modes
>>  * macros
>>  * shell-mode
>>  * org-mode
>> * working with perl in emacs
>>  * cperl-mode
>>  * perltidy-mode
>> * emacs commands in the terminal (that didn't know you knew)
>>
>> I gave a presentation just last week to my coworkers on GNU Screen,  
>> so
>> I could potentially present on that too.
>>
>> How many of you out there would be interested in an emacs and/or GNU
>> Screen presentation?
>
> I would enjoy either (or both) despite not being an emacs guy.
>
> G. Wade
> -- 
> You write code as if the person who will maintain your code is a  
> violent
> psychopath who knows where you live.                -- John F. Woods
> _______________________________________________
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From rlharris at oplink.net  Sat May 10 14:15:00 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:15:00 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] hash creation - syntax error
Message-ID: <20080510211500.GA4019@tmiaf>

The Perl compiler is complaining of syntax errors in the three
statements indicated below.

I am attempting to create a set of three hashes, keyed to the sequence
number of the books of the Bible.

The data with which I am trying to populate the hatches comes from the
file "sequence-name-name-chapters', which has lines of the form:

    01  +Genesis      +The Book of Genesis      +50
    02  +Exodus       +The Book of Exodus       +40
    03  +Leviticus    +The Book of Leviticus    +27
    04  +Numbers      +The Book of Numbers      +36
    05  +Deuteronomy  +The Book of Deuteronomy  +34

Here is the Perl script:

# -----------------------------------------------------------

my $snnc = "";
my @fields = ();

open(my $fh, '<', 'sequence-name-name-chapters' ) 
  or die "unable to open 'sequence-name-name-chapters': $!";
chomp( my @snnc = <$fh> );

foreach $snnc (@snnc) {
@fields = split / +\+/, $snnc;

print $fields[0], "\n"; # sequence number of the book
print $fields[1], "\n"; # short name of the book
print $fields[2], "\n"; # formal name of the book
print $fields[3], "\n"; # number of chapters in the book
print "\n";

        my $name{"$fields[0]"} = $fields[1]; # syntax error
  my $formalname{"$fields[0]"} = $fields[2]; # syntax error
    my $chapters{"$fields[0]"} = $fields[3]; # syntax error

}

# -----------------------------------------------------------

The print commands are only for diagnostic use; they produce the
following listing:

01
Genesis
The Book of Genesis
50

02
Exodus
The Book of Exodus
40

03
Leviticus
The Book of Leviticus
27

04
Numbers
The Book of Numbers
36

05
Deuteronomy
The Book of Deuteronomy
34

# -----------------------------------------------------------

I am a Perl novice.  I welcome recommendations as to alternative
approaches.

RLH

From robo4288 at gmail.com  Sat May 10 14:30:54 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:30:54 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] hash creation - syntax error
In-Reply-To: <20080510211500.GA4019@tmiaf>
References: <20080510211500.GA4019@tmiaf>
Message-ID: <435624390805101430mb725535q962e1903159427c1@mail.gmail.com>

The problem is you can't declare a hash and assign it like that. You
would need to assign it a list when you declare it. Plus by using "my"
to declare the hashes you would lose the data at the end of each loop.
Here is one way to solve your problem.

use Data::Dumper;

my $snnc   = "";
my @fields = ();
my %name = ();
my %formalname = ();
my %chapters = ();


# open(my $fh, '<', 'sequence-name-name-chapters' )
#  or die "unable to open 'sequence-name-name-chapters': $!";
chomp( my @snnc = <DATA> );

foreach $snnc (@snnc) {
    @fields = split / +\+/, $snnc;

    print $fields[0], "\n";    # sequence number of the book
    print $fields[1], "\n";    # short name of the book
    print $fields[2], "\n";    # formal name of the book
    print $fields[3], "\n";    # number of chapters in the book
    print "\n";

    $name{$fields[0]}       = $fields[1];    # syntax error
    $formalname{$fields[0]} = $fields[2];    # syntax error
    $chapters{$fields[0]}   = $fields[3];    # syntax error

}

print Dumper \%name;
print Dumper \%formalname;
print Dumper \%chapters;

__DATA__
01  +Genesis      +The Book of Genesis      +50
02  +Exodus       +The Book of Exodus       +40
03  +Leviticus    +The Book of Leviticus    +27
04  +Numbers      +The Book of Numbers      +36
05  +Deuteronomy  +The Book of Deuteronomy  +34

From rlharris at oplink.net  Sat May 10 19:42:56 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:42:56 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] hash creation - syntax error
In-Reply-To: <435624390805101430mb725535q962e1903159427c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080510211500.GA4019@tmiaf>
	<435624390805101430mb725535q962e1903159427c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080511024256.GA3637@tmiaf>

* Robert Boone <robo4288 at gmail.com> [080510 16:35]:
> The problem is you can't declare a hash and assign it like that. You
> would need to assign it a list when you declare it. Plus by using "my"
> to declare the hashes you would lose the data at the end of each loop.
> Here is one way to solve your problem.
> 
> use Data::Dumper;
...

I thank you, Robert.  And thanks for the introduction to Dumper.

This is one phase of the project which I began about a month ago
(subject: "generating and populating files using a systematic name").
The pieces are coming together slowly.

RLH


From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon May 12 05:27:49 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:27:49 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Meeting tomorrow
Message-ID: <20080512072749.4e6652f0@sovvan>

It looks like Will's emacs talk will be next month, so we are back to
having no topic for tomorrow.

If no one has any ideas, I suggest we open it up to questions like last
time. If you have a question on a particular Perl (or programming)
topic, feel free to bring it to the meeting and we'll put the groups
knowledge into helping you solve it.

As always, the directions to the location are on the houston.pm.org
website under meetings.

We normally meet between 6pm and 6:20pm in the lobby and go from there
to the meeting room.

Hope to see you there.
G. Wade
-- 
They made a very satisfying thump when they hit the floor.
                            -- G'Kar - "A Late Delivery from Avalon"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed May 14 05:29:09 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:29:09 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Last Nights Meeting: Estimation
Message-ID: <20080514072909.3573a5ce@sovvan>

One of the topics we discussed last night was estimating software
projects.

The book I recommended was "Software Estimation" by Steve McConnell.

Although he points out that there is actually a science to generating
high-quality estimates, most of us don't have near the information or
infrastructure needed to do it.

So he focuses on the art of creating and evaluating estimates,
particularly for software projects.

I definitely recommend the book to anyone working on software projects.

G. Wade
-- 
A 'language' is a dialect with an army.

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue May 20 16:09:48 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:09:48 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] YAPC::NA 2008
Message-ID: <20080520180948.12a1a9c8@sovvan>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:44:41 -0500
From: "Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Subject: [pm_groups] YAPC::NA 2008


Hello all PM group list owners, I just wanted to send out an reminder
to let everyone know that YAPC::NA 2008 is less than a month away.
This year we are hosting the conference in Chicago, IL, USA and have
three days of Perl talks lined up, along with additional classes,
hack-a-thons, and a job fair and expo.  The conference website is
http://yapc.org/America/

Please forward this on to your respective PM group lists if you think
that your members might be interested.

Thanks,
Josh McAdams
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From fluhmann at gmail.com  Thu May 29 07:27:27 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:27:27 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0805290727v7f95b35k5d8d1bfb93c8d96e@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys,

The excitement is building!  YAPC::NA is less than 3 weeks away!!  It looks
like there are only three people from Houston.pm going to yapc.  Is that
right?  I thought there'd be more.  If you're a last minute registrant,
you'd better hurry.  On-campus housing options are closing on May 30th!!

See you in Chicago!

Jeremy
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From will.willis at gmail.com  Thu May 29 07:40:35 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:40:35 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
In-Reply-To: <7f7c2d5e0805290727v7f95b35k5d8d1bfb93c8d96e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7f7c2d5e0805290727v7f95b35k5d8d1bfb93c8d96e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090805290740u2f8547bfg9f4a4a16acaccbc4@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, I won't be going this year. I was planning on it, and
anxiously looking forward to it, but will not be able to make it now.

Maybe next year. Have enough fun for all of us!!

-Will

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann <fluhmann at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> The excitement is building!  YAPC::NA is less than 3 weeks away!!  It looks
> like there are only three people from Houston.pm going to yapc.  Is that
> right?  I thought there'd be more.  If you're a last minute registrant,
> you'd better hurry.  On-campus housing options are closing on May 30th!!
>
> See you in Chicago!
>
> Jeremy
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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>

From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Thu May 29 09:45:37 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:45:37 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
Message-ID: <OF6073012D.338B452B-ON05257458.005C0F94@jpmchase.com>

Who's going?

-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Jeremy Fluhmann
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:27 AM
To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc


Hey guys,

The excitement is building!  YAPC::NA is less than 3 weeks away!!  It
looks like there are only three people from Houston.pm going to yapc.  Is
that right?  I thought there'd be more.  If you're a last minute
registrant, you'd better hurry.  On-campus housing options are closing on
May 30th!!

See you in Chicago!

Jeremy




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From fluhmann at gmail.com  Thu May 29 11:12:20 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:12:20 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
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Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0805291112k5481f2d2nf42c1bce4cd2f83d@mail.gmail.com>

Actually, I guess I should have said, "It looks like there are only three
people from Houston.pm registered on the site for yapc 2008."  The three
that are listed aren't listed as having paid yet.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM, <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:

>  Who's going?
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org [mailto:
> houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo <houston-bounces%2Btodd.e.rinaldo>=
> jpmorgan.com at pm.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Fluhmann
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:27 AM
> *To:* Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
> *Subject:* [pm-h] attending yapc
>
> Hey guys,
>
> The excitement is building!  YAPC::NA is less than 3 weeks away!!  It looks
> like there are only three people from Houston.pm going to yapc.  Is that
> right?  I thought there'd be more.  If you're a last minute registrant,
> you'd better hurry.  On-campus housing options are closing on May 30th!!
>
> See you in Chicago!
>
> Jeremy
>
> ------------------------------
>
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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Thu May 29 11:41:13 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:41:13 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
Message-ID: <OF2AB1620D.163475FC-ON05257458.00669F18@jpmchase.com>

I'm on the list as of today I think. Anyone else?

-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Jeremy Fluhmann
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:12 PM
To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
Subject: Re: [pm-h] attending yapc


Actually, I guess I should have said, "It looks like there are only three
people from Houston.pm registered on the site for yapc 2008."  The three
that are listed aren't listed as having paid yet.


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM, <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:


Who's going?

-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo
<mailto:houston-bounces%2Btodd.e.rinaldo> =jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf
Of Jeremy Fluhmann
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:27 AM
To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc


Hey guys,

The excitement is building!  YAPC::NA is less than 3 weeks away!!  It
looks like there are only three people from Houston.pm going to yapc.  Is
that right?  I thought there'd be more.  If you're a last minute
registrant, you'd better hurry.  On-campus housing options are closing on
May 30th!!

See you in Chicago!

Jeremy






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From fluhmann at gmail.com  Thu May 29 11:52:16 2008
From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:52:16 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
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Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0805291152i5c85aa7dt18918f0940352179@mail.gmail.com>

Just you, Will, and Brandon Black -
http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/search?pm_group=Houston.pm.  If your
name is in bold, it means you've paid.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM, <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:

>  I'm on the list as of today I think. Anyone else?
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> *From:* houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org [mailto:
> houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo <houston-bounces%2Btodd.e.rinaldo>=
> jpmorgan.com at pm.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Fluhmann
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:12 PM
> *To:* Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
> *Subject:* Re: [pm-h] attending yapc
>
> Actually, I guess I should have said, "It looks like there are only three
> people from Houston.pm registered on the site for yapc 2008."  The three
> that are listed aren't listed as having paid yet.
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:45 AM, <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:
>
>>  Who's going?
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org [mailto:
>> houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo <houston-bounces%2Btodd.e.rinaldo>=
>> jpmorgan.com at pm.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Fluhmann
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:27 AM
>> *To:* Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
>> *Subject:* [pm-h] attending yapc
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> The excitement is building!  YAPC::NA is less than 3 weeks away!!  It
>> looks like there are only three people from Houston.pm going to yapc.  Is
>> that right?  I thought there'd be more.  If you're a last minute registrant,
>> you'd better hurry.  On-campus housing options are closing on May 30th!!
>>
>> See you in Chicago!
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Thu May 29 17:22:55 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:22:55 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
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	<6ee1e6090805290740u2f8547bfg9f4a4a16acaccbc4@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:40:35 -0500
"Will Willis" <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, I won't be going this year. I was planning on it, and
> anxiously looking forward to it, but will not be able to make it now.
> 
> Maybe next year. Have enough fun for all of us!!

I have to agree with Will on this one. Earlier in the year I had
planned to go, but the closer the time came the more things piled up
that got in the way.

Maybe things won't be as hectic next year.

G. Wade
-- 
"I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated
rate."                             -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure"

From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Thu May 29 18:43:27 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:43:27 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] attending yapc
Message-ID: <OF787D4044.4CAB0F04-ON05257459.000967D0@jpmchase.com>

Not hectic... Why does a phrase involving flying monkeys come to mind...?
*grin*

-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
G. Wade Johnson
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:23 PM
To: houston at pm.org
Subject: Re: [pm-h] attending yapc


On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:40:35 -0500
"Will Willis" <will.willis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, I won't be going this year. I was planning on it, and
> anxiously looking forward to it, but will not be able to make it now.
> 
> Maybe next year. Have enough fun for all of us!!

I have to agree with Will on this one. Earlier in the year I had
planned to go, but the closer the time came the more things piled up
that got in the way.

Maybe things won't be as hectic next year.

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