From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Apr  1 20:06:22 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 22:06:22 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
Message-ID: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>

Well, meeting time has snuck up on us again.

Does anyone have a topic for next week's meeting?

G. Wade
-- 
"Mister Garibaldi, there're days I'm very glad I don't have to think
like you do."                -- Ivanova, "And the Sky Full of Stars"

From robo4288 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 13:05:19 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>
References: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>
Message-ID: <435624390804021305w76ab60d2xd924da3c6543d309@mail.gmail.com>

I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by tuesday.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 10:06 PM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> Well, meeting time has snuck up on us again.
>
>  Does anyone have a topic for next week's meeting?
>
>  G. Wade
>  --
>  "Mister Garibaldi, there're days I'm very glad I don't have to think
>  like you do."                -- Ivanova, "And the Sky Full of Stars"
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Apr  2 16:21:43 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:21:43 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] perl training deadline
Message-ID: <20080402182143.102e2712@sovvan>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:36:43 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri at perlhunter.com>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Subject: [pm_groups] perl training deadline



please forward this to your local pm group. i think it will be of
interest to them.



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	http://perlhunter.com/students.html

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	http://perlhunter.com/sponsors.html

if you are already working and would like to attend this week of perl
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thanx,

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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Apr  4 06:25:05 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:25:05 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <435624390804021305w76ab60d2xd924da3c6543d309@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>
	<435624390804021305w76ab60d2xd924da3c6543d309@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080404082505.5a5d9c16@sovvan>

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
"Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
> tuesday.

Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
programming problems.

If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl they
are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the group
on your problem.

Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.

Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
another one)

G. Wade
-- 
If you like laws and sausages, you should never watch either one being
made.                                           -- Otto von Bismarck

From robo4288 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 06:31:00 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:31:00 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080404082505.5a5d9c16@sovvan>
References: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>
	<435624390804021305w76ab60d2xd924da3c6543d309@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080404082505.5a5d9c16@sovvan>
Message-ID: <435624390804040631m72f2881ap67de3c4ee8f6eea@mail.gmail.com>

I fine with a perl problems session.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:25 AM, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
>  "Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
>  > tuesday.
>
>  Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
>  programming problems.
>
>  If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl they
>  are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the group
>  on your problem.
>
>  Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.
>
>  Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
>  another one)
>
>  G. Wade
>  --
>  If you like laws and sausages, you should never watch either one being
>  made.                                           -- Otto von Bismarck
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>  Houston mailing list
>  Houston at pm.org
>  http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>  Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From mikeflan at att.net  Fri Apr  4 07:54:36 2008
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:54:36 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080404082505.5a5d9c16@sovvan>
References: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>	<435624390804021305w76ab60d2xd924da3c6543d309@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080404082505.5a5d9c16@sovvan>
Message-ID: <47F6412C.8050904@att.net>


OK by me, but I can't post to the list.


Mike


G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
> "Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
>> programming problems.
>>
>> If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl they
>> are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the group
>> on your problem.
>>
>> Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.
>>
>> Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
>> another one)
>>
>> G. Wade
>>     

From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Fri Apr  4 06:54:49 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:54:49 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
Message-ID: <OF773E579A.41F02759-ON05257421.004BECB8@jpmchase.com>

Wade, 

You're reading my mind now. I was just thinking the other day that just a
round table of "this is the problem I'm trying to solve" could potentially
be very helpful. Perhaps the problem is algorithmic, not perl. I think
this would be fine. The point is to get ideas from others about how to
approach a problem you might be having issues with. 

I'm also very up for a POE demo since this sounds like potentially a very
unique concept on how to solve problems, but I defer to Robert on when
it's ready for drive time.  No rush.

I vote for item 1 and then pick up robert's talk next month. 


-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
G. Wade Johnson
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:25 AM
To: houston at pm.org
Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting


On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
"Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
> tuesday.

Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
programming problems.

If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl they
are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the group
on your problem.

Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.

Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
another one)

G. Wade
-- 
If you like laws and sausages, you should never watch either one being
made.                                           -- Otto von Bismarck
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From mikeflan at att.net  Fri Apr  4 08:14:31 2008
From: mikeflan at att.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:14:31 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] E-mail Authentication
In-Reply-To: <47F6412C.8050904@att.net>
References: <20080401220622.67a6066d@sovvan>	<435624390804021305w76ab60d2xd924da3c6543d309@mail.gmail.com>	<20080404082505.5a5d9c16@sovvan>
	<47F6412C.8050904@att.net>
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Well apparently I can post to the list now.  I couldn't for the
last week even though I was getting posts from the list.

Below is something I've been trying to post for a week now. 
Any comments?


I recently changed ISP's from Earthlink to AT&T.  With Earthlink
a simple sendmail would work every time, no matter the From:
or To: e-mail address:
http://www.mflan.com/temp/sendmail5.txt

With AT&T that script no longer works.  After a long delay it
says "Error sending mail: connect to smtp.att.yahoo.com failed
(Unknown error)".

Anyway, AT&T uses authentication.  I understand I need to
mimic that authentication.

My question is, should I used SendMail, Mail::Mailer, or
some other module for this?  Is getting mail authentication
to work a hard thing to do?  I suspect so from what I am 
reading. It appears a lot of people have dedicated a lot of 
time to this subject with marginal results.



Mike



Mike Flannigan wrote:
> OK by me, but I can't post to the list.
>
>
> Mike
>   

From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Fri Apr  4 07:21:35 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:21:35 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] E-mail Authentication
Message-ID: <OF11EE6BEB.760F0A47-ON05257421.004EB470@jpmchase.com>

My personal favorite is sendeasy. It does most everything one needs with
minimal complications. The only issue I've ever had was compressed
attachments. Admittedly, I've never tested the authentication, but it
seems to have it. 

I recommend giving it a try if you're having issues with others.

http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?Mail::SendEasy

-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
mikeflan at att.net
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:15 AM
To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
Subject: [pm-h] E-mail Authentication



Well apparently I can post to the list now.  I couldn't for the
last week even though I was getting posts from the list.

Below is something I've been trying to post for a week now. 
Any comments?


I recently changed ISP's from Earthlink to AT&T.  With Earthlink
a simple sendmail would work every time, no matter the From:
or To: e-mail address:
http://www.mflan.com/temp/sendmail5.txt

With AT&T that script no longer works.  After a long delay it
says "Error sending mail: connect to smtp.att.yahoo.com failed
(Unknown error)".

Anyway, AT&T uses authentication.  I understand I need to
mimic that authentication.

My question is, should I used SendMail, Mail::Mailer, or
some other module for this?  Is getting mail authentication
to work a hard thing to do?  I suspect so from what I am 
reading. It appears a lot of people have dedicated a lot of 
time to this subject with marginal results.



Mike



Mike Flannigan wrote:
> OK by me, but I can't post to the list.
>
>
> Mike
>   
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Apr  4 09:43:44 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:43:44 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <OF773E579A.41F02759-ON05257421.004BECB8@jpmchase.com>
References: <OF773E579A.41F02759-ON05257421.004BECB8@jpmchase.com>
Message-ID: <20080404114344.7b499387@sovvan>

On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:54:49 -0500
todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:

> Wade, 
> 
> You're reading my mind now. I was just thinking the other day that
> just a round table of "this is the problem I'm trying to solve" could
> potentially be very helpful. Perhaps the problem is algorithmic, not
> perl. I think this would be fine. The point is to get ideas from
> others about how to approach a problem you might be having issues
> with. 
> 
> I'm also very up for a POE demo since this sounds like potentially a
> very unique concept on how to solve problems, but I defer to Robert
> on when it's ready for drive time.  No rush.
> 
> I vote for item 1 and then pick up robert's talk next month. 

Opening the idea up further to include algorithmic and design questions
sounds like a really good idea. Sometimes it's handy to get other
viewpoints on a design, even if you don't use them.

So the real questions is ... are we going to have people come to show
problems, ask questions, and otherwise take advantage of the collected
knowledge of the group?

Shout out if you're interested.

G. Wade

> -----Original Message-----
> From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
> [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf
> Of G. Wade Johnson
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:25 AM
> To: houston at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
> "Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
> > tuesday.
> 
> Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
> programming problems.
> 
> If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl they
> are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the group
> on your problem.
> 
> Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.
> 
> Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
> another one)
> 
> G. Wade


-- 
Results are what you wanted, consequences are what you got.
                                                 -- Michael VanDusen

From robo4288 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  4 09:45:00 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:45:00 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080404114344.7b499387@sovvan>
References: <OF773E579A.41F02759-ON05257421.004BECB8@jpmchase.com>
	<20080404114344.7b499387@sovvan>
Message-ID: <0F61E42F-3A92-474E-BC14-4A074AECBFE6@gmail.com>

I am


On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:43 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:54:49 -0500
> todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:
>
>> Wade,
>>
>> You're reading my mind now. I was just thinking the other day that
>> just a round table of "this is the problem I'm trying to solve" could
>> potentially be very helpful. Perhaps the problem is algorithmic, not
>> perl. I think this would be fine. The point is to get ideas from
>> others about how to approach a problem you might be having issues
>> with.
>>
>> I'm also very up for a POE demo since this sounds like potentially a
>> very unique concept on how to solve problems, but I defer to Robert
>> on when it's ready for drive time.  No rush.
>>
>> I vote for item 1 and then pick up robert's talk next month.
>
> Opening the idea up further to include algorithmic and design  
> questions
> sounds like a really good idea. Sometimes it's handy to get other
> viewpoints on a design, even if you don't use them.
>
> So the real questions is ... are we going to have people come to show
> problems, ask questions, and otherwise take advantage of the collected
> knowledge of the group?
>
> Shout out if you're interested.
>
> G. Wade
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
>> [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf
>> Of G. Wade Johnson
>> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:25 AM
>> To: houston at pm.org
>> Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
>> "Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
>>> tuesday.
>>
>> Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
>> programming problems.
>>
>> If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl  
>> they
>> are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the  
>> group
>> on your problem.
>>
>> Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.
>>
>> Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
>> another one)
>>
>> G. Wade
>
>
> -- 
> Results are what you wanted, consequences are what you got.
>                                                 -- Michael VanDusen
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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Fri Apr  4 10:59:39 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:59:39 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
Message-ID: <OF2043695D.6A2445EC-ON05257421.0062C2D0@jpmchase.com>

Wade, 

I would think that I could definitley come up with some. Do you want them
listed up front?

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
G. Wade Johnson
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 11:44 AM
To: houston at pm.org
Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting


On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:54:49 -0500
todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:

> Wade, 
> 
> You're reading my mind now. I was just thinking the other day that
> just a round table of "this is the problem I'm trying to solve" could
> potentially be very helpful. Perhaps the problem is algorithmic, not
> perl. I think this would be fine. The point is to get ideas from
> others about how to approach a problem you might be having issues
> with. 
> 
> I'm also very up for a POE demo since this sounds like potentially a
> very unique concept on how to solve problems, but I defer to Robert
> on when it's ready for drive time.  No rush.
> 
> I vote for item 1 and then pick up robert's talk next month. 

Opening the idea up further to include algorithmic and design questions
sounds like a really good idea. Sometimes it's handy to get other
viewpoints on a design, even if you don't use them.

So the real questions is ... are we going to have people come to show
problems, ask questions, and otherwise take advantage of the collected
knowledge of the group?

Shout out if you're interested.

G. Wade

> -----Original Message-----
> From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
> [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf
> Of G. Wade Johnson
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:25 AM
> To: houston at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
> "Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
> > tuesday.
> 
> Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
> programming problems.
> 
> If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl they
> are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of the group
> on your problem.
> 
> Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.
> 
> Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
> another one)
> 
> G. Wade


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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Apr  4 11:13:24 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:13:24 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
In-Reply-To: <OF2043695D.6A2445EC-ON05257421.0062C2D0@jpmchase.com>
References: <OF2043695D.6A2445EC-ON05257421.0062C2D0@jpmchase.com>
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:59:39 -0500
todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:

> Wade, 
> 
> I would think that I could definitley come up with some. Do you want
> them listed up front?

I'm more thinking of trying to convince more people to come to the
meeting. If you think listing some ideas would help, feel free.

G. Wade

> -----Original Message-----
> From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
> [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf
> Of G. Wade Johnson
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 11:44 AM
> To: houston at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting
> 
> 
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 08:54:49 -0500
> todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:
> 
> > Wade, 
> > 
> > You're reading my mind now. I was just thinking the other day that
> > just a round table of "this is the problem I'm trying to solve"
> > could potentially be very helpful. Perhaps the problem is
> > algorithmic, not perl. I think this would be fine. The point is to
> > get ideas from others about how to approach a problem you might be
> > having issues with. 
> > 
> > I'm also very up for a POE demo since this sounds like potentially a
> > very unique concept on how to solve problems, but I defer to Robert
> > on when it's ready for drive time.  No rush.
> > 
> > I vote for item 1 and then pick up robert's talk next month. 
> 
> Opening the idea up further to include algorithmic and design
> questions sounds like a really good idea. Sometimes it's handy to get
> other viewpoints on a design, even if you don't use them.
> 
> So the real questions is ... are we going to have people come to show
> problems, ask questions, and otherwise take advantage of the collected
> knowledge of the group?
> 
> Shout out if you're interested.
> 
> G. Wade
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
> > [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On
> > Behalf Of G. Wade Johnson
> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 8:25 AM
> > To: houston at pm.org
> > Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 15:05:19 -0500
> > "Robert Boone" <robo4288 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I could do one on POE but I don't know how finished it will be by
> > > tuesday.
> > 
> > Another idea we've talked about is a session helping with Perl
> > programming problems.
> > 
> > If enough people are interested and would like to bring some Perl
> > they are having problems with, we could unleash the experience of
> > the group on your problem.
> > 
> > Of course, you could also use the mailing list for that.
> > 
> > Who would be interested in a session like this? (For this meeting or
> > another one)
> > 
> > G. Wade
> 
> 


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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Fri Apr  4 13:19:43 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:19:43 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting
Message-ID: <OF347A0899.028C3553-ON05257421.006EC634@jpmchase.com>

So one of the problems I'm having is coming up with an algorithm for
dealing with a workflow/scheduler situation where there are complex
dependancies of tasks. Essentially where there are multiple parents, and
therefore in some cases multiple children. I'm having trouble finding a
simple algorithm to solve this problem. 

Brute force of course will work for a small problem, but I'm looking for
something that will scale to larger volumes of items. 

I can present this problem at the meeting and the approach I've taken to
the problem

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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [pm-h] April Meeting


On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:59:39 -0500
todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:

> Wade, 
> 
> I would think that I could definitley come up with some. Do you want
> them listed up front?

I'm more thinking of trying to convince more people to come to the
meeting. If you think listing some ideas would help, feel free.

G. Wade
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Apr  7 16:02:44 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:02:44 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] April Meeting: Program help
Message-ID: <20080407180244.0b0b04e6@sovvan>

April's meeting is tomorrow at our normal location 1111 Fannin St. (See
http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html for the map.)

As discussed on the list, we will be trying an open help session again.
If you have a programming or design problem you would like help with,
the other members are offering to help.

If you have a design or program that you think is pretty good, but
would like another pair of eyes (or more) to look it over for comment,
bring that too.

If you are willing to look at other people's code and help critique the
design or help fix problems, join the party.

As usual, we will meet in the lobby at 1111 Fannin St. between 6pm and
6:20pm. Then, we'll head off to the conference room. Parking on the
streets is free after 6pm.

Hope to see you there.
G. Wade

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Apr  9 20:21:43 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 22:21:43 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Rethinking CPAN
Message-ID: <20080409222143.5f6be7b0@sovvan>

Andy Lester started an interesting discussion on Perl Buzz about
rethinking the way we access CPAN.

http://perlbuzz.com/2008/04/rethinking-the-interface-to-cpan.html

This has now sprouted a mailing list and a lot of ideas.

G. Wade
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something.

From andy at petdance.com  Wed Apr  9 20:31:44 2008
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 22:31:44 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Rethinking CPAN
In-Reply-To: <20080409222143.5f6be7b0@sovvan>
References: <20080409222143.5f6be7b0@sovvan>
Message-ID: <4CFACBFC-DB6A-4201-A1BF-2082635D8283@petdance.com>


On Apr 9, 2008, at 10:21 PM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> http://perlbuzz.com/2008/04/rethinking-the-interface-to-cpan.html
>
> This has now sprouted a mailing list and a lot of ideas.


And I would love love love to have more input.  We're getting to the  
point where we could use some bare prototypes, just HTML or  
Photoshopping or something that brings together some ideals.

http://groups.google.com/group/rethinking-cpan

Join up!

xoxo,
Andy

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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Fri Apr 11 09:42:07 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:42:07 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Workflow scheduler solution
Message-ID: <OF45FC77F6.3D71711A-ON05257428.005B084C@jpmchase.com>

All,

As promised from this month's meeting, I am providing the solution to my problem we.

Background: I have a need to run jobs, but some of the jobs have a need to depend on multiple things completing. At present, we have to run them in a linear fashion or leverage ugly sleep commands to assure (hopefully) everything has run before the next command can be run.

Issue: Provide a SQL approach to create a workflow process to deal with multiple parent dependencies. This way you can just query the DB to determine which jobs that have not run yet have met their dependencies and are ready to run. 


SQL to create tables: (This is all sybase by the way. Apologies!)

CREATE TABLE dbo.Scheduler
(
    workflow_id   numeric(20,0) NOT NULL,
    workflow_step smallint      NOT NULL,
    start_time    datetime      NULL,
    end_time      datetime      NULL,
    hostname      varchar(4096) NOT NULL,
    command       varchar(4096) NOT NULL,
    status        smallint      DEFAULT -1 NOT NULL,
    pid           int           DEFAULT 0 NOT NULL,
    log           image         DEFAULT "empty" NULL,
    CONSTRAINT Scheduler_workflow_step
    UNIQUE NONCLUSTERED (workflow_id,workflow_step)
)
LOCK ALLPAGES
go
IF OBJECT_ID('dbo.Scheduler') IS NOT NULL
    PRINT '<<< CREATED TABLE dbo.Scheduler >>>'
ELSE
    PRINT '<<< FAILED CREATING TABLE dbo.Scheduler >>>'
go

CREATE TABLE dbo.SchedulerDepends
(
    workflow_id     numeric(20,0) NOT NULL,
    workflow_step   smallint      NOT NULL,
    depends_on      smallint      NOT NULL,
    status_required smallint      NOT NULL,
    CONSTRAINT SchedulerD_10261517202
    UNIQUE NONCLUSTERED (workflow_id,workflow_step,depends_on)
)
LOCK ALLPAGES
go
IF OBJECT_ID('dbo.SchedulerDepends') IS NOT NULL
    PRINT '<<< CREATED TABLE dbo.SchedulerDepends >>>'
ELSE
    PRINT '<<< FAILED CREATING TABLE dbo.SchedulerDepends >>>'
go


------


-- SQL to find out what's ready to run.
select s1.hostname, s1.command
    from dbo.Scheduler s1
    where s1.start_time is null -- figure out what hasn't started yet
    and not exists( -- figure out what dependencies s1.status has. no rows means it's ready to go.
        select 1
            from dbo.Scheduler s2,  -- used to check the state of jobs s1 is depending on.
                 dbo.SchedulerDepends d -- used to determine which jobs s1 depends on
            where s2.status   != d.status_required -- Is the job in the right state that's required?
              and s2.workflow_step  = d.depends_on  -- find all 
              and d.workflow_step   = s1.workflow_step -- Find all the dependencies for s1 row.
              and s1.workflow_id = s2.workflow_id -- Assure everything's using the same workflow
              and s1.workflow_id = d.workflow_id -- Assure everything's using the same workflow
    )


-- SQL to find out what is currently running.
select * from dbo.Scheduler s1
    where start_time is not null
    and end_time is null




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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Apr 15 05:18:48 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:18:48 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: [pm_groups] Registration open for NPW 2008
Message-ID: <20080415071848.098b04d5@sovvan>



Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:55:55 +0200
From: Claes Jakobsson <claes at surfar.nu>
To: pm_groups at pm.org
Subject: [pm_groups] Registration open for NPW 2008


Hi,

please forward this to your local group(s).

Thanks,
Claes, Stockholm Perl Mongers

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the fee. Talk proposals can be done online and should be in no later  
than May 2nd.

So visit now and register for the workshop!

See you in Stockholm,
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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Tue Apr 15 05:57:57 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:57:57 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] DBIX::Class - blobs
Message-ID: <OF1C62757A.1EE724FA-ON0525742C.004646A0@jpmchase.com>

Hi, 

I've taken the plunge and am attempting to grok DBIx::Class, with respect to Sybase. 2 bugs are hindering my progress. The latter has got me at a pause. I know in one of the Catalyst/DBIx::Class presentations given (I think it was Robert's?), a solution was provided for it.

1. Sybase goes nanners when you try to quote a numeric in a where clause. DBIx::Class seems to insist on doing this. So for instance, column XXX is numeric, so in my DBIC code I have: XXX => 5 for my search criteria. But DBIC wants to execute the following SQL: where XXX = "5". This makes Sybase complain that I can't do the comparison without an explicit convert call. I'm working around this by doing a really ugly thing in DBIC code:   XXX => \' = 1'.

2. The real stumper is automatically decoding a blob value and inflating it into the column. At the moment, I'm just stabbing at it. Can someone give me an example of how to accomplish this?

Thanks,
Todd


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From robo4288 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 07:25:02 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:25:02 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] DBIX::Class - blobs
In-Reply-To: <OF1C62757A.1EE724FA-ON0525742C.004646A0@jpmchase.com>
References: <OF1C62757A.1EE724FA-ON0525742C.004646A0@jpmchase.com>
Message-ID: <435624390804150725h3c71aa9dib16d9591dec85fc3@mail.gmail.com>

I asked on the #dbix-class irc channel and got this reply:

castaway:
dbic does not do it, the dbd backend does (quote numerics that is)
iirc you may have to figure out bind_params.. I know theres a
patch/thing for bind_params for PGs bytea, but not about numerics
[also look in ::Storage::DBI::Pg for blob stuff
iirc theres a pg-specific thing for that too



On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:57 AM,  <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've taken the plunge and am attempting to grok DBIx::Class, with respect to
> Sybase. 2 bugs are hindering my progress. The latter has got me at a pause.
> I know in one of the Catalyst/DBIx::Class presentations given (I think it
> was Robert's?), a solution was provided for it.
>
> 1. Sybase goes nanners when you try to quote a numeric in a where clause.
> DBIx::Class seems to insist on doing this. So for instance, column XXX is
> numeric, so in my DBIC code I have: XXX => 5 for my search criteria. But
> DBIC wants to execute the following SQL: where XXX = "5". This makes Sybase
> complain that I can't do the comparison without an explicit convert call.
> I'm working around this by doing a really ugly thing in DBIC code:   XXX =>
> \' = 1'.
>
> 2. The real stumper is automatically decoding a blob value and inflating it
> into the column. At the moment, I'm just stabbing at it. Can someone give me
> an example of how to accomplish this?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Tue Apr 15 10:53:55 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:53:55 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] DBIX::Class - blobs
Message-ID: <OF1FB328C7.7DCE00B3-ON0525742C.005B69F4@jpmchase.com>

Robert, 

What about the code I saw in the meeting where you were doing a de-blob
the image/bytea field? Do I remember this wrong?


-----Original Message-----
From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Boone
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:25 AM
To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
Subject: Re: [pm-h] DBIX::Class - blobs


I asked on the #dbix-class irc channel and got this reply:

castaway:
dbic does not do it, the dbd backend does (quote numerics that is)
iirc you may have to figure out bind_params.. I know theres a
patch/thing for bind_params for PGs bytea, but not about numerics
[also look in ::Storage::DBI::Pg for blob stuff
iirc theres a pg-specific thing for that too



On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:57 AM,  <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I've taken the plunge and am attempting to grok DBIx::Class, with
respect to
> Sybase. 2 bugs are hindering my progress. The latter has got me at a
pause.
> I know in one of the Catalyst/DBIx::Class presentations given (I think
it
> was Robert's?), a solution was provided for it.
>
> 1. Sybase goes nanners when you try to quote a numeric in a where
clause.
> DBIx::Class seems to insist on doing this. So for instance, column XXX
is
> numeric, so in my DBIC code I have: XXX => 5 for my search criteria. But
> DBIC wants to execute the following SQL: where XXX = "5". This makes
Sybase
> complain that I can't do the comparison without an explicit convert
call.
> I'm working around this by doing a really ugly thing in DBIC code:   XXX
=>
> \' = 1'.
>
> 2. The real stumper is automatically decoding a blob value and inflating
it
> into the column. At the moment, I'm just stabbing at it. Can someone
give me
> an example of how to accomplish this?
>
> Thanks,
> Todd
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>
>  Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only and it
is
> not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any
> financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction.
In
> the event you are receiving the offering materials attached below
related to
> your interest in hedge funds or private equity, this communication may
be
> intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of such
> fund(s). All market prices, data and other information are not warranted
as
> to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice.
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> comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of
> JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission
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From robo4288 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 11:01:26 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:01:26 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] DBIX::Class - blobs
In-Reply-To: <OF1FB328C7.7DCE00B3-ON0525742C.005B69F4@jpmchase.com>
References: <OF1FB328C7.7DCE00B3-ON0525742C.005B69F4@jpmchase.com>
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We talk about how postgres does it a little but there was no code that  
I remember...


On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com wrote:
> Robert,
>
> What about the code I saw in the meeting where you were doing a de- 
> blob
> the image/bytea field? Do I remember this wrong?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
> [mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On  
> Behalf Of
> Robert Boone
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:25 AM
> To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX.
> Subject: Re: [pm-h] DBIX::Class - blobs
>
>
> I asked on the #dbix-class irc channel and got this reply:
>
> castaway:
> dbic does not do it, the dbd backend does (quote numerics that is)
> iirc you may have to figure out bind_params.. I know theres a
> patch/thing for bind_params for PGs bytea, but not about numerics
> [also look in ::Storage::DBI::Pg for blob stuff
> iirc theres a pg-specific thing for that too
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:57 AM,  <todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've taken the plunge and am attempting to grok DBIx::Class, with
> respect to
>> Sybase. 2 bugs are hindering my progress. The latter has got me at a
> pause.
>> I know in one of the Catalyst/DBIx::Class presentations given (I  
>> think
> it
>> was Robert's?), a solution was provided for it.
>>
>> 1. Sybase goes nanners when you try to quote a numeric in a where
> clause.
>> DBIx::Class seems to insist on doing this. So for instance, column  
>> XXX
> is
>> numeric, so in my DBIC code I have: XXX => 5 for my search  
>> criteria. But
>> DBIC wants to execute the following SQL: where XXX = "5". This makes
> Sybase
>> complain that I can't do the comparison without an explicit convert
> call.
>> I'm working around this by doing a really ugly thing in DBIC  
>> code:   XXX
> =>
>> \' = 1'.
>>
>> 2. The real stumper is automatically decoding a blob value and  
>> inflating
> it
>> into the column. At the moment, I'm just stabbing at it. Can someone
> give me
>> an example of how to accomplish this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Todd
>>
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From tigger at io.com  Wed Apr 16 09:52:41 2008
From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:52:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [pm-h] Howdy from Dallas...
Message-ID: <20080416115140.H3588@eris.io.com>

Hey, there. I can't make this, since I'm in Dallas (technically Plano) now, 
but I thought I'd pass it along for anyone who doesn't get Linux Journal's 
Weekly Notes emails:

In other news Linux Journal had a local Meetup in Houston last night and
Aaron Poffenberger of CareFlash was kind enough to bring 4 OLPC XOs to
share with the group. We had too much fun playing with them (TamTam is the
most entertaining music program I've played with in a long time). Thanks,
Aaron! For next month's meeting we plan on whipping the Chumbys out so if
anyone is in the neighborhood, make sure to stop by
(http://linuxjournal.meetup.com/47/calendar/7559924/). Hopefully we'll be
adding Meetups in other cities soon.


Paul



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    Of Youth, and we've got the power."
Alice Cooper: "And who gave it to you?"
Chorus of young girls: "Donnie Osmond!"
Alice Cooper: "What?!?"
--------------------------------------------

From rlharris at oplink.net  Fri Apr 18 19:18:25 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:18:25 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] generating and populating files using a systematic name
	scheme
Message-ID: <20080419021825.GA3550@oplink.net>

Over the weekend, I am attempting to use Perl for the task outlined
below.  

I have a copy of "Learning Perl" and "Perl Cookbook".  I likely shall
be doing things the hard way, so I welcome recommendations from anyone
who is interested.  

RLH

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

TASK:

Using an outline template and a set of text files, create a set of
outline files, one per chapter, for each book in the Bible.

The files are to be named according to the following scheme:

    outline-xx-yyy

in which xx is the sequential book number (01, 02, 03, ...) and yyy is
the sequential chapter number (001, 002, 003, ...).

Each outline file starts out as a copy of the outline template, into
which is copied the text of the corresponding chapter, the book name,
the sequential book number, the sequential chapter number, and the
filename.

DATA:

The Bible text is contained in a set of files named '01', '02', etc.,
in which each filename is the sequential book number ('01' for
Genesis, '02' for Exodus, etc.).  In each of these files, each
newline-delimited record corresponds to a single verse, and chapters
are delimited by the chapter number followed by a colon (:), as
follows:

    1:1 text of the first verse
    2 text of the second verse
    3 text of the third verse
    ...
    31 text of the last verse
    2:1 text of the first verse
    2 text of the second verse
    3 text of the third verse
    ...
    25 text of the last verse
    3:1 text of the first verse
    ...

ASSOCIATIONS FILE:

A file is used to associate the sequential book number, the book name,
and the number of chapters in the book.  In this file, each
newline-delimited record corresponds to a single book:

   01 Genesis 50
   02 Exodus 40
   ...

OUTLINE TEMPLATE:

In the outline template, several strings (each of which begins with an
equals sign (=)) act as placeholders for: the bookname, the sequential
book number, the sequential chapter number, the outline filename
(which is used in a URL), and the Bible text of the chapter:

    =bookname
    =book
    =chapter
    =filename
    =bibletext

PLAN OF ATTACK:

(1) Step record-by-record through the association file.  Using the
sequential book number and the number of chapters from each record,
append the filename 'outline-xx-yyy' to a copy of the outline
template.

(2) Step file-by-file through the outline files (approximately a
thousand in number) which were generated in step one:

    (2.1) Copy the outline filename into the '=filename' field of the
    outline file.

    (2.2) Decompose the outline filename in order to obtain the value
    to enter into the '=book' and '=chapter" fields of the file.

    (2.3) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
    the associations file, in order to obtain the string to enter into
    the '=bookname' field of the outline file.

    (2.4) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
    the Bible text directory to select the proper book file; then use
    the 'chapter' value from the outline filename to index into the
    book file to select the proper chapter; and finally copy the text
    of the chapter from the book file into the '=bibletext' field of
    the outline file.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

From rlharris at oplink.net  Sun Apr 20 19:24:19 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:24:19 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] populate an array from data in a text file
Message-ID: <20080421022419.GA3430@oplink.net>

I am trying to read data from a text file into an array, the goal
being to copy various elements from the array.  From chapter 2 (pages
66-67) of the third edition of "Programming Perl", it appears to me
that the text file is termed a "here-document".

Because of the need to read a file, I suspect that I should be using
the diamond operator, but I haven't been able to figure out how it
would fit into this script.

Here is my Perl script:

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

#!/usr/bin/perl

@ARGV = qw# words #; # read the here-document

@phonetic = <<EOF =~ m/^\s*.+/gm;
EOF

print $phonetic[0];
print $phonetic[1];
print $phonetic[2];
print $phonetic[3];
print $phonetic[4];
print $phonetic[5];

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Here is the content of my here-document, which is a text file named
"words":

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

able
baker
charlie
delta
echo
foxtrot
EOF

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

From robo4288 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 20 20:09:08 2008
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:09:08 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] populate an array from data in a text file
In-Reply-To: <20080421022419.GA3430@oplink.net>
References: <20080421022419.GA3430@oplink.net>
Message-ID: <435624390804202009m6e5ab4a1h6c5963fd2440770@mail.gmail.com>

I think you maybe a little confused. here-documents are just a
convenient way to print or assign multiple lines of text.

You had it right with the diamond operator. Here is one of the many
ways to read a file into an array:

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;

my @phonetic;

while (my $word = <>) {
    push @phonetic, $word;
}

print $phonetic[0];
print $phonetic[1];
print $phonetic[2];
print $phonetic[3];
print $phonetic[4];
print $phonetic[5];

assuming:

perl prog.pl words

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Russell L. Harris <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:
> I am trying to read data from a text file into an array, the goal
>  being to copy various elements from the array.  From chapter 2 (pages
>  66-67) of the third edition of "Programming Perl", it appears to me
>  that the text file is termed a "here-document".
>
>  Because of the need to read a file, I suspect that I should be using
>  the diamond operator, but I haven't been able to figure out how it
>  would fit into this script.
>
>  Here is my Perl script:
>
>  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>  #!/usr/bin/perl
>
>  @ARGV = qw# words #; # read the here-document
>
>  @phonetic = <<EOF =~ m/^\s*.+/gm;
>  EOF
>
>  print $phonetic[0];
>  print $phonetic[1];
>  print $phonetic[2];
>  print $phonetic[3];
>  print $phonetic[4];
>  print $phonetic[5];
>
>  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>
>  Here is the content of my here-document, which is a text file named
>  "words":
>
>  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>  able
>  baker
>  charlie
>  delta
>  echo
>  foxtrot
>  EOF
>
>  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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From rlharris at oplink.net  Sun Apr 20 22:27:14 2008
From: rlharris at oplink.net (Russell L. Harris)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:27:14 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] populate an array from data in a text file
In-Reply-To: <435624390804202009m6e5ab4a1h6c5963fd2440770@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080421022419.GA3430@oplink.net>
	<435624390804202009m6e5ab4a1h6c5963fd2440770@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080421052714.GB3430@oplink.net>

* Robert Boone <robo4288 at gmail.com> [080420 22:14]:
> I think you maybe a little confused. here-documents are just a
> convenient way to print or assign multiple lines of text.

Thanks, Robert.  I am more than a little confused.  Most of yesterday and
today I've been reading "Programming Perl" and "Perl Cookbook", and
now I am trying to see how all the pieces fit together.  

Even if a here-document is not applicable to this project, I am
curious as to how it is used and for what it is useful.  

RLH


From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Apr 21 05:17:26 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:17:26 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] populate an array from data in a text file
In-Reply-To: <20080421022419.GA3430@oplink.net>
References: <20080421022419.GA3430@oplink.net>
Message-ID: <20080421071726.30a71cba@sovvan>

Hi Russell,

On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:24:19 -0500
"Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net> wrote:

> I am trying to read data from a text file into an array, the goal
> being to copy various elements from the array.  From chapter 2 (pages
> 66-67) of the third edition of "Programming Perl", it appears to me
> that the text file is termed a "here-document".

A here document is just a form of multi-line string. I don't believe it
is what you need here.

> Because of the need to read a file, I suspect that I should be using
> the diamond operator, but I haven't been able to figure out how it
> would fit into this script.

I can think of a couple of ways that I normally do this:

my @phonetic = ();
while(<>) # read each line into $_
{
   chomp;  # Remove newline from $_
   push @phonetic, $_; # add the line to @phonetic
}

or

chomp( my @phonetic = <> ); # all in one

Both of these will read each line in all of the files listed on the
command line of the script into the array.

If you are not passing the file on the command line (or resetting
@ARGV), you will need to use the diamond operator with a file handle.
Add the following line before the above:

open( my $fh, '<', 'words' ) or die "Unable to open 'words': $!";

Then replace '<>' with '<$fh>' in either the reading code above. Using
the second example:

open( my $fh, '<', 'words' ) or die "Unable to open 'words': $!";
chomp( my @phonetic = <$fh> );
close( $fh );

Hope that helps.

> 
> Here is my Perl script:
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> 
> @ARGV = qw# words #; # read the here-document
> 
> @phonetic = <<EOF =~ m/^\s*.+/gm;
> EOF

I'm not really sure what you are intending to do with the regular
expression. The first example I gave above is easier to modify to
discard some lines. You just add

   next unless m/^\s$.+/;

before the line with the push.

> 
> print $phonetic[0];
> print $phonetic[1];
> print $phonetic[2];
> print $phonetic[3];
> print $phonetic[4];
> print $phonetic[5];
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> 
> 
> Here is the content of my here-document, which is a text file named
> "words":
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> 
> able
> baker
> charlie
> delta
> echo
> foxtrot
> EOF
> 
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/


-- 
Never express yourself more clearly than you think.    -- Niels Bohr

From Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com  Mon Apr 21 08:55:58 2008
From: Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com (Haufler, Wayne A)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:55:58 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Houston Digest, Vol 41, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1208631611.3509.houston@pm.org>
References: <mailman.9.1208631611.3509.houston@pm.org>
Message-ID: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB206204EBB@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>

As a Christian, I certainly commend such use of Perl to support Biblical
study, or whatever.

I think I can think of better ways to approach this problem,
but first idea that comes to me is to recommend the use of
OPML (Outline Processor Markup Language). 

>From CPAN, XML::OPML and the like.
This may be too advanced, but if you want true outline 
behavior and functionality, I think this is a good way to go.
I haven't tried it myself, yet, but encountered it during
some research for a pet project which has gone nowhere.

You may be interested to know of another languishing pet project.
A Christian computer game teaching Christian principles with
a mechanical analogue.  I want to use Blender3D programming
in Perl instead of Python, but that may be a pipe dream.

Regards,
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
Wayne A. Haufler
Senior Software Engineer (SE)
In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
Backup Flight System (BFS) 
Displays & Controls Requirements Analyst
Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
Voice: 	281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 5475
E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
Skills :  Perl,Unix,C,C++,SQL,QNX,GUI 

(Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)



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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:18:25 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net>
Subject: [pm-h] generating and populating files using a systematic
	name	scheme
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Over the weekend, I am attempting to use Perl for the task outlined
below.  

I have a copy of "Learning Perl" and "Perl Cookbook".  I likely shall be
doing things the hard way, so I welcome recommendations from anyone who
is interested.  

RLH

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%

TASK:

Using an outline template and a set of text files, create a set of
outline files, one per chapter, for each book in the Bible.

The files are to be named according to the following scheme:

    outline-xx-yyy

in which xx is the sequential book number (01, 02, 03, ...) and yyy is
the sequential chapter number (001, 002, 003, ...).

Each outline file starts out as a copy of the outline template, into
which is copied the text of the corresponding chapter, the book name,
the sequential book number, the sequential chapter number, and the
filename.

DATA:

The Bible text is contained in a set of files named '01', '02', etc., in
which each filename is the sequential book number ('01' for Genesis,
'02' for Exodus, etc.).  In each of these files, each newline-delimited
record corresponds to a single verse, and chapters are delimited by the
chapter number followed by a colon (:), as
follows:

    1:1 text of the first verse
    2 text of the second verse
    3 text of the third verse
    ...
    31 text of the last verse
    2:1 text of the first verse
    2 text of the second verse
    3 text of the third verse
    ...
    25 text of the last verse
    3:1 text of the first verse
    ...

ASSOCIATIONS FILE:

A file is used to associate the sequential book number, the book name,
and the number of chapters in the book.  In this file, each
newline-delimited record corresponds to a single book:

   01 Genesis 50
   02 Exodus 40
   ...

OUTLINE TEMPLATE:

In the outline template, several strings (each of which begins with an
equals sign (=)) act as placeholders for: the bookname, the sequential
book number, the sequential chapter number, the outline filename (which
is used in a URL), and the Bible text of the chapter:

    =bookname
    =book
    =chapter
    =filename
    =bibletext

PLAN OF ATTACK:

(1) Step record-by-record through the association file.  Using the
sequential book number and the number of chapters from each record,
append the filename 'outline-xx-yyy' to a copy of the outline template.

(2) Step file-by-file through the outline files (approximately a
thousand in number) which were generated in step one:

    (2.1) Copy the outline filename into the '=filename' field of the
    outline file.

    (2.2) Decompose the outline filename in order to obtain the value
    to enter into the '=book' and '=chapter" fields of the file.

    (2.3) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
    the associations file, in order to obtain the string to enter into
    the '=bookname' field of the outline file.

    (2.4) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
    the Bible text directory to select the proper book file; then use
    the 'chapter' value from the outline filename to index into the
    book file to select the proper chapter; and finally copy the text
    of the chapter from the book file into the '=bibletext' field of
    the outline file.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%


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From todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com  Mon Apr 21 09:13:44 2008
From: todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com (todd.e.rinaldo at jpmorgan.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:13:44 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] populate an array from data in a text file
Message-ID: <OF3C317C2D.7D936FEE-ON05257432.0058FC78@jpmchase.com>

Just thought I'd point out that you should probably search for bible in
CPAN. I remember being told a long time ago that a fully searchable Bible
and Koran  (separate modules) is present in CPAN as modules.

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From: houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org
[mailto:houston-bounces+todd.e.rinaldo=jpmorgan.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Haufler, Wayne A
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:56 AM
To: houston at pm.org
Cc: Haufler, Wayne A; Wayne Haufler (E-mail 2)
Subject: Re: [pm-h] Houston Digest, Vol 41, Issue 11


As a Christian, I certainly commend such use of Perl to support Biblical
study, or whatever.

I think I can think of better ways to approach this problem,
but first idea that comes to me is to recommend the use of
OPML (Outline Processor Markup Language). 

>From CPAN, XML::OPML and the like.
This may be too advanced, but if you want true outline 
behavior and functionality, I think this is a good way to go.
I haven't tried it myself, yet, but encountered it during
some research for a pet project which has gone nowhere.

You may be interested to know of another languishing pet project.
A Christian computer game teaching Christian principles with
a mechanical analogue.  I want to use Blender3D programming
in Perl instead of Python, but that may be a pipe dream.

Regards,
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
Wayne A. Haufler
Senior Software Engineer (SE)
In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
Backup Flight System (BFS) 
Displays & Controls Requirements Analyst
Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
Voice: 	281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 5475
E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
Skills :  Perl,Unix,C,C++,SQL,QNX,GUI 

(Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)



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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:18:25 -0500
From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net>
Subject: [pm-h] generating and populating files using a systematic
	name	scheme
To: houston at pm.org
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Over the weekend, I am attempting to use Perl for the task outlined
below.  

I have a copy of "Learning Perl" and "Perl Cookbook".  I likely shall be
doing things the hard way, so I welcome recommendations from anyone who
is interested.  

RLH

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%

TASK:

Using an outline template and a set of text files, create a set of
outline files, one per chapter, for each book in the Bible.

The files are to be named according to the following scheme:

    outline-xx-yyy

in which xx is the sequential book number (01, 02, 03, ...) and yyy is
the sequential chapter number (001, 002, 003, ...).

Each outline file starts out as a copy of the outline template, into
which is copied the text of the corresponding chapter, the book name,
the sequential book number, the sequential chapter number, and the
filename.

DATA:

The Bible text is contained in a set of files named '01', '02', etc., in
which each filename is the sequential book number ('01' for Genesis,
'02' for Exodus, etc.).  In each of these files, each newline-delimited
record corresponds to a single verse, and chapters are delimited by the
chapter number followed by a colon (:), as
follows:

    1:1 text of the first verse
    2 text of the second verse
    3 text of the third verse
    ...
    31 text of the last verse
    2:1 text of the first verse
    2 text of the second verse
    3 text of the third verse
    ...
    25 text of the last verse
    3:1 text of the first verse
    ...

ASSOCIATIONS FILE:

A file is used to associate the sequential book number, the book name,
and the number of chapters in the book.  In this file, each
newline-delimited record corresponds to a single book:

   01 Genesis 50
   02 Exodus 40
   ...

OUTLINE TEMPLATE:

In the outline template, several strings (each of which begins with an
equals sign (=)) act as placeholders for: the bookname, the sequential
book number, the sequential chapter number, the outline filename (which
is used in a URL), and the Bible text of the chapter:

    =bookname
    =book
    =chapter
    =filename
    =bibletext

PLAN OF ATTACK:

(1) Step record-by-record through the association file.  Using the
sequential book number and the number of chapters from each record,
append the filename 'outline-xx-yyy' to a copy of the outline template.

(2) Step file-by-file through the outline files (approximately a
thousand in number) which were generated in step one:

    (2.1) Copy the outline filename into the '=filename' field of the
    outline file.

    (2.2) Decompose the outline filename in order to obtain the value
    to enter into the '=book' and '=chapter" fields of the file.

    (2.3) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
    the associations file, in order to obtain the string to enter into
    the '=bookname' field of the outline file.

    (2.4) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
    the Bible text directory to select the proper book file; then use
    the 'chapter' value from the outline filename to index into the
    book file to select the proper chapter; and finally copy the text
    of the chapter from the book file into the '=bibletext' field of
    the outline file.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%


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From will.willis at gmail.com  Tue Apr 22 06:58:02 2008
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:58:02 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Houston Digest, Vol 41, Issue 11
In-Reply-To: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB206204EBB@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
References: <mailman.9.1208631611.3509.houston@pm.org>
	<B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB206204EBB@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
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You may want to take a look at The Mormon Documentation Project,
http://mdp.nephi.org/.

I've used their mysql database for accessing the King James version of
the Bible. You'll get all the other "Volumes" of scriptures used my
the Latter-day Saints, but you'll find the bible in there too.

http://scriptures.nephi.org/download.php

>From my experience, It's a solid schema. They have CSV, SQLite, and
many other formats too.

-Will


On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Haufler, Wayne A
<Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com> wrote:
> As a Christian, I certainly commend such use of Perl to support Biblical
> study, or whatever.
>
> I think I can think of better ways to approach this problem,
> but first idea that comes to me is to recommend the use of
> OPML (Outline Processor Markup Language).
>
> >From CPAN, XML::OPML and the like.
> This may be too advanced, but if you want true outline
> behavior and functionality, I think this is a good way to go.
> I haven't tried it myself, yet, but encountered it during
> some research for a pet project which has gone nowhere.
>
> You may be interested to know of another languishing pet project.
> A Christian computer game teaching Christian principles with
> a mechanical analogue.  I want to use Blender3D programming
> in Perl instead of Python, but that may be a pipe dream.
>
> Regards,
> -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> Wayne A. Haufler
> Senior Software Engineer (SE)
> In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
> Backup Flight System (BFS)
> Displays & Controls Requirements Analyst
> Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
> Voice:  281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 5475
> E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
> Skills :  Perl,Unix,C,C++,SQL,QNX,GUI
>
> (Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
> represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: houston-request at pm.org [mailto:houston-request at pm.org]
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: houston at pm.org
> Subject: Houston Digest, Vol 41, Issue 11
>
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>
>   1. generating and populating files using a systematic name
>      scheme (Russell L. Harris)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:18:25 -0500
> From: "Russell L. Harris" <rlharris at oplink.net>
> Subject: [pm-h] generating and populating files using a systematic
>        name    scheme
> To: houston at pm.org
> Message-ID: <20080419021825.GA3550 at oplink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Over the weekend, I am attempting to use Perl for the task outlined
> below.
>
> I have a copy of "Learning Perl" and "Perl Cookbook".  I likely shall be
> doing things the hard way, so I welcome recommendations from anyone who
> is interested.
>
> RLH
>
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> %
>
> TASK:
>
> Using an outline template and a set of text files, create a set of
> outline files, one per chapter, for each book in the Bible.
>
> The files are to be named according to the following scheme:
>
>    outline-xx-yyy
>
> in which xx is the sequential book number (01, 02, 03, ...) and yyy is
> the sequential chapter number (001, 002, 003, ...).
>
> Each outline file starts out as a copy of the outline template, into
> which is copied the text of the corresponding chapter, the book name,
> the sequential book number, the sequential chapter number, and the
> filename.
>
> DATA:
>
> The Bible text is contained in a set of files named '01', '02', etc., in
> which each filename is the sequential book number ('01' for Genesis,
> '02' for Exodus, etc.).  In each of these files, each newline-delimited
> record corresponds to a single verse, and chapters are delimited by the
> chapter number followed by a colon (:), as
> follows:
>
>    1:1 text of the first verse
>    2 text of the second verse
>    3 text of the third verse
>    ...
>    31 text of the last verse
>    2:1 text of the first verse
>    2 text of the second verse
>    3 text of the third verse
>    ...
>    25 text of the last verse
>    3:1 text of the first verse
>    ...
>
> ASSOCIATIONS FILE:
>
> A file is used to associate the sequential book number, the book name,
> and the number of chapters in the book.  In this file, each
> newline-delimited record corresponds to a single book:
>
>   01 Genesis 50
>   02 Exodus 40
>   ...
>
> OUTLINE TEMPLATE:
>
> In the outline template, several strings (each of which begins with an
> equals sign (=)) act as placeholders for: the bookname, the sequential
> book number, the sequential chapter number, the outline filename (which
> is used in a URL), and the Bible text of the chapter:
>
>    =bookname
>    =book
>    =chapter
>    =filename
>    =bibletext
>
> PLAN OF ATTACK:
>
> (1) Step record-by-record through the association file.  Using the
> sequential book number and the number of chapters from each record,
> append the filename 'outline-xx-yyy' to a copy of the outline template.
>
> (2) Step file-by-file through the outline files (approximately a
> thousand in number) which were generated in step one:
>
>    (2.1) Copy the outline filename into the '=filename' field of the
>    outline file.
>
>    (2.2) Decompose the outline filename in order to obtain the value
>    to enter into the '=book' and '=chapter" fields of the file.
>
>    (2.3) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
>    the associations file, in order to obtain the string to enter into
>    the '=bookname' field of the outline file.
>
>    (2.4) Use the 'book' value from the outline filename to index into
>    the Bible text directory to select the proper book file; then use
>    the 'chapter' value from the outline filename to index into the
>    book file to select the proper chapter; and finally copy the text
>    of the chapter from the book file into the '=bibletext' field of
>    the outline file.
>
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> %
>
>
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Apr 25 16:57:37 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:57:37 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] Fw: UG News: Velocity Conference Discount Information
Message-ID: <20080425185737.59544d92@sovvan>



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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:39:30 -0700
From: "Marsee Henon" <marsee at oreilly.com>
To: gwadej at anomaly.org
Subject: UG News: Velocity Conference Discount Information


Hi,

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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Apr 30 17:19:47 2008
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:19:47 -0500
Subject: [pm-h] May meeting
Message-ID: <20080430191947.71ed6e37@sovvan>

Meeting time is coming up fast.

Does anyone have a topic they would like to hear about or would like to
talk about for the meeting in two weeks?

If you haven't been coming to the meetings because the topics weren't
interesting, let the group know where your interests lie. Someone might
be willing to present on that subject.

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