From toddr at null.net Thu Oct 4 08:12:36 2007 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:12:36 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <20070930202320.382ba03d@sovvan> References: <20070930202320.382ba03d@sovvan> Message-ID: <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> Wade/Robert, >From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm floundering in Catalyst 'Heck'. The learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is it the other way around? I can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open source jokes here please), and Just better understanding how catalyst works is holding me up. I've taken a look at some of the intro projects to see how to use catalyst, but have been disappointed in what's out there. I would love to spend time picking Mr. Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a project to create a better how-to for catalyst. What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too selfish? *grin* Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of > G. Wade Johnson > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:23 PM > To: Houston Perl Mongers > Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting > > It's a little over a week until the next Houston.pm meeting > (October 9). > Does anyone have any ideas for the meeting? > > * a topic to present? > * a group project to start? > * a current project to contribute to as a group? > * a social meeting? > > G. Wade > -- > Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From robo4288 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:10:28 2007 From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:10:28 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> References: <20070930202320.382ba03d@sovvan> <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: I would be willing to try to help. I've never used sybase so I might not be too much help there. On Oct 4, 2007, at 10:12 AM, "Todd Rinaldo" wrote: > Wade/Robert, >> From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm floundering in Catalyst >> 'Heck'. The > learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is it the other way > around? I > can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open source jokes here > please), and > Just better understanding how catalyst works is holding me up. I've > taken a > look at some of the intro projects to see how to use catalyst, but > have been > disappointed in what's out there. I would love to spend time picking > Mr. > Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a project to create a better > how-to for catalyst. > > What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too selfish? *grin* > Todd > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org >> [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of >> G. Wade Johnson >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:23 PM >> To: Houston Perl Mongers >> Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting >> >> It's a little over a week until the next Houston.pm meeting >> (October 9). >> Does anyone have any ideas for the meeting? >> >> * a topic to present? >> * a group project to start? >> * a current project to contribute to as a group? >> * a social meeting? >> >> G. Wade >> -- >> Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'. >> _______________________________________________ >> Houston mailing list >> Houston at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston >> Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From blblack at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:19:18 2007 From: blblack at gmail.com (Brandon Black) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:19:18 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> References: <20070930202320.382ba03d@sovvan> <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: <84621a60710041219j43388e2j7326e0ecb771f9d0@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/07, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > Wade/Robert, > >From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm floundering in Catalyst 'Heck'. The > learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is it the other way around? I > can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open source jokes here please), and > Just better understanding how catalyst works is holding me up. I've taken a > look at some of the intro projects to see how to use catalyst, but have been > disappointed in what's out there. I would love to spend time picking Mr. > Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a project to create a better > how-to for catalyst. > > What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too selfish? *grin* > Todd > Using Sybase is probably causing a lot of additional pain on top of the usual Cat/DBIC learning curve. I'd suggest working through some sample applications using MySQL or PostgreSQL first to better arm yourself, as you will undoubtedly run into oddities and bugs with a Sybase backend. IIRC, the NoBindVars stuff has never quite worked right out of the box due to Class::C3 initialization issues. The mailing lists and IRC channels are a big help too: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo and: irc.perl.org #dbix-class / #catalyst If you want to do a Cat/DBIC-themed meeting sometime I could help out there too. -- Brandon From robo4288 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:43:16 2007 From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:43:16 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <84621a60710041219j43388e2j7326e0ecb771f9d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070930202320.382ba03d@sovvan> <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> <84621a60710041219j43388e2j7326e0ecb771f9d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am all for Brandon talking about cat/dbic at the meeting. On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:19 PM, "Brandon Black" wrote: > On 10/4/07, Todd Rinaldo wrote: >> Wade/Robert, >>> From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm floundering in Catalyst >>> 'Heck'. The >> learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is it the other way >> around? I >> can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open source jokes here >> please), and >> Just better understanding how catalyst works is holding me up. I've >> taken a >> look at some of the intro projects to see how to use catalyst, but >> have been >> disappointed in what's out there. I would love to spend time >> picking Mr. >> Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a project to create a >> better >> how-to for catalyst. >> >> What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too selfish? *grin* >> Todd >> > > Using Sybase is probably causing a lot of additional pain on top of > the usual Cat/DBIC learning curve. I'd suggest working through some > sample applications using MySQL or PostgreSQL first to better arm > yourself, as you will undoubtedly run into oddities and bugs with a > Sybase backend. IIRC, the NoBindVars stuff has never quite worked > right out of the box due to Class::C3 initialization issues. The > mailing lists and IRC channels are a big help too: > > http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > and: > > irc.perl.org #dbix-class / #catalyst > > If you want to do a Cat/DBIC-themed meeting sometime I could help > out there too. > > -- Brandon > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ From gwadej at anomaly.org Thu Oct 4 15:53:43 2007 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:53:43 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: References: <20070930202320.382ba03d@sovvan> <00e501c80698$ff778e00$0201a8c0@covenant> <84621a60710041219j43388e2j7326e0ecb771f9d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071004175343.79118ebf@sovvan> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:43:16 -0500 Robert Boone wrote: > I am all for Brandon talking about cat/dbic at the meeting. Ditto. > > On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:19 PM, "Brandon Black" wrote: > > > On 10/4/07, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > >> Wade/Robert, > >>> From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm floundering in Catalyst > >>> 'Heck'. The > >> learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is it the other way > >> around? I > >> can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open source jokes here > >> please), and > >> Just better understanding how catalyst works is holding me up. > >> I've taken a > >> look at some of the intro projects to see how to use catalyst, > >> but have been > >> disappointed in what's out there. I would love to spend time > >> picking Mr. > >> Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a project to create a > >> better > >> how-to for catalyst. > >> > >> What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too selfish? *grin* > >> Todd > >> > > > > Using Sybase is probably causing a lot of additional pain on top of > > the usual Cat/DBIC learning curve. I'd suggest working through some > > sample applications using MySQL or PostgreSQL first to better arm > > yourself, as you will undoubtedly run into oddities and bugs with a > > Sybase backend. IIRC, the NoBindVars stuff has never quite worked > > right out of the box due to Class::C3 initialization issues. The > > mailing lists and IRC channels are a big help too: > > > > http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > and: > > > > irc.perl.org #dbix-class / #catalyst > > > > If you want to do a Cat/DBIC-themed meeting sometime I could help > > out there too. > > > > -- Brandon > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ -- Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require hard work and discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. -- Edsger Dijkstra From bart_hampshire at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 19:17:46 2007 From: bart_hampshire at yahoo.com (Bart Hampshire) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <20071004175343.79118ebf@sovvan> Message-ID: <132795.87765.qm@web60117.mail.yahoo.com> So, does my "thirded" make give it a majority vote? Bart --- "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:43:16 -0500 > Robert Boone wrote: > > > I am all for Brandon talking about cat/dbic at the > meeting. > > Ditto. > > > > > On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:19 PM, "Brandon Black" > wrote: > > > > > On 10/4/07, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > >> Wade/Robert, > > >>> From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm > floundering in Catalyst > > >>> 'Heck'. The > > >> learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is > it the other way > > >> around? I > > >> can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open > source jokes here > > >> please), and > > >> Just better understanding how catalyst works is > holding me up. > > >> I've taken a > > >> look at some of the intro projects to see how > to use catalyst, > > >> but have been > > >> disappointed in what's out there. I would love > to spend time > > >> picking Mr. > > >> Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a > project to create a > > >> better > > >> how-to for catalyst. > > >> > > >> What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too > selfish? *grin* > > >> Todd > > >> > > > > > > Using Sybase is probably causing a lot of > additional pain on top of > > > the usual Cat/DBIC learning curve. I'd suggest > working through some > > > sample applications using MySQL or PostgreSQL > first to better arm > > > yourself, as you will undoubtedly run into > oddities and bugs with a > > > Sybase backend. IIRC, the NoBindVars stuff has > never quite worked > > > right out of the box due to Class::C3 > initialization issues. The > > > mailing lists and IRC channels are a big help > too: > > > > > > http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > > > and: > > > > > > irc.perl.org #dbix-class / #catalyst > > > > > > If you want to do a Cat/DBIC-themed meeting > sometime I could help > > > out there too. > > > > > > -- Brandon > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Houston mailing list > > > Houston at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > -- > Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they > require hard work and > discipline to achieve and education to be > appreciated. > -- > Edsger Dijkstra > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From toddr at null.net Thu Oct 4 20:30:59 2007 From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:30:59 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <132795.87765.qm@web60117.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20071004175343.79118ebf@sovvan> <132795.87765.qm@web60117.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002401c80700$26454f10$0201a8c0@covenant> No, but I think my fourth-ith does! Thanks Brandon!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org > [mailto:houston-bounces+toddr=null.net at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Bart Hampshire > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:18 PM > To: Houston.pm located in Houston, TX. > Subject: Re: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting > > So, does my "thirded" make give it a majority vote? > > Bart > > --- "G. Wade Johnson" wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:43:16 -0500 > > Robert Boone wrote: > > > > > I am all for Brandon talking about cat/dbic at the > > meeting. > > > > Ditto. > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:19 PM, "Brandon Black" > > wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/4/07, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > > >> Wade/Robert, > > > >>> From a COMPLETELEY selfish stance, I'm > > floundering in Catalyst > > > >>> 'Heck'. The > > > >> learning curve for getting DBIX::class (or is > > it the other way > > > >> around? I > > > >> can't remember..), going on Sybase (No open > > source jokes here > > > >> please), and > > > >> Just better understanding how catalyst works is > > holding me up. > > > >> I've taken a > > > >> look at some of the intro projects to see how > > to use catalyst, > > > >> but have been > > > >> disappointed in what's out there. I would love > > to spend time > > > >> picking Mr. > > > >> Boone's brain on this and perhaps discuss a > > project to create a > > > >> better > > > >> how-to for catalyst. > > > >> > > > >> What are your thoughts on this as a topic? Too > > selfish? *grin* > > > >> Todd > > > >> > > > > > > > > Using Sybase is probably causing a lot of > > additional pain on top of > > > > the usual Cat/DBIC learning curve. I'd suggest > > working through some > > > > sample applications using MySQL or PostgreSQL > > first to better arm > > > > yourself, as you will undoubtedly run into > > oddities and bugs with a > > > > Sybase backend. IIRC, the NoBindVars stuff has > > never quite worked > > > > right out of the box due to Class::C3 > > initialization issues. The > > > > mailing lists and IRC channels are a big help > > too: > > > > > > > > http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo > > > > > > > > and: > > > > > > > > irc.perl.org #dbix-class / #catalyst > > > > > > > > If you want to do a Cat/DBIC-themed meeting > > sometime I could help > > > > out there too. > > > > > > > > -- Brandon > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Houston mailing list > > > > Houston at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Houston mailing list > > > Houston at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > > > -- > > Simplicity and elegance are unpopular because they require > hard work > > and discipline to achieve and education to be appreciated. > > -- Edsger > Dijkstra > > _______________________________________________ > > Houston mailing list > > Houston at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > Houston at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ > From blblack at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 05:12:55 2007 From: blblack at gmail.com (Brandon Black) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:12:55 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting In-Reply-To: <002401c80700$26454f10$0201a8c0@covenant> References: <20071004175343.79118ebf@sovvan> <132795.87765.qm@web60117.mail.yahoo.com> <002401c80700$26454f10$0201a8c0@covenant> Message-ID: <84621a60710070512g209c4b4fl935ba1f872b2efee@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/07, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > No, but I think my fourth-ith does! Sorry for the slow replies, but yes I can make it and do some Cat/DBIC stuff. I'm just now in the last stages of putting together a small new Cat/DBIC app, so I think I can use that for a real-world example. I'll probably steal some public slides others have done on the basics too :) -- Brandon From mikeflan at earthlink.net Sun Oct 7 08:38:55 2007 From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:38:55 -0600 Subject: [pm-h] October Houston.pm meeting References: <20071004175343.79118ebf@sovvan> <132795.87765.qm@web60117.mail.yahoo.com> <002401c80700$26454f10$0201a8c0@covenant> <84621a60710070512g209c4b4fl935ba1f872b2efee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4708FD8F.53206948@earthlink.net> Brandon Black wrote: > Sorry for the slow replies, but yes I can make it and do some Cat/DBIC > stuff. I'm just now in the last stages of putting together a small > new Cat/DBIC app, so I think I can use that for a real-world example. > I'll probably steal some public slides others have done on the basics > too :) Terrific. If Wade will be there then I plan to attend. Could somebody give me an address, time of start, cost to park, etc. I haven't come in a long time. I need the basic basics on Cat/DBIC. I just did a web search and found some information, but not real basic stuff. It sounds like it's largely a DB structure, or driving program. Mike Flannigan From gwadej at anomaly.org Sun Oct 7 08:26:15 2007 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:26:15 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Meeting Message-ID: <20071007102615.227c8d9e@sovvan> Brandon Black has graciously volunteered to give a talk on Cat/DBIC this Tuesday for the Houston.pm meeting. As usual, we will be meeting downtown at 1111 Fannin. (Map at http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1111+fannin+77002&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=19&ll=29.754784,-95.365013&spn=0.001106,0.002682&t=h) After 6pm, parking on the street is free. We normally gather in the lobby between 6pm and 6:20pm, and then go to either the basement or a conference room. Hope to see you all there. G. Wade -- DON'T PANIC! I'm a trained professional, and far more qualified to panic in this situation than you are. From jvogt at houston.oilfield.slb.com Sun Oct 7 09:43:09 2007 From: jvogt at houston.oilfield.slb.com (Jay Vogt) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:43:09 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Perl local web server In-Reply-To: <20071007102615.227c8d9e@sovvan> References: <20071007102615.227c8d9e@sovvan> Message-ID: <47090C9D.6080406@houston.oilfield.slb.com> All, Does anyone have experience with setting up a local web server using Perl using something like HTTP::Daemon? My objective is to give users a web tool which can access their data disks areas (i.e. started locally); whereas, the typical web server in their office will not have access to them. I also ran across http://www.adp-gmbh.ch/perl/webserver/index.html which looks simple enough. Any thoughts on feasibility, security or lessons learned on this would be appreciated. Regards, Jay Vogt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My objective is to give > users a web tool which can access their data disks areas (i.e. started > locally); whereas, the typical web server in their office will not > have access to them. > > I also ran across http://www.adp-gmbh.ch/perl/webserver/index.html > which looks simple enough. > > Any thoughts on feasibility, security or lessons learned on this would > be appreciated. I have done it as an exercise (and did a talk on it at Houston.pm: http://houston.pm.org/talks/2004talks/0411Talk/index.htm). The main downside is the fact that it will not handle much traffic. Normally a server built with HTTP::Daemon is single-threaded, so it can only handle one request at a time. For anything other than a very simple application I normally install Apache. If Apache is more than you need, I've been seeing good things about Lighttpd (http://www.lighttpd.net/) lately. G. Wade -- I like you. You're trouble. -- Draal - "Voices of Authority" From gwadej at anomaly.org Mon Oct 8 05:17:16 2007 From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:17:16 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] October Meeting this Tuesday Message-ID: <20071008071716.1fa8cb9c@sovvan> A final quick reminder that the October Houston.pm meeting is tomorrow (Tuesday) night at 1111 Fannin. G. Wade -- You forgot the first rule of the fanatic: when you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy. -- Jeffrey Sinclair in "Infection" From fluhmann at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 11:51:42 2007 From: fluhmann at gmail.com (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:51:42 -0500 Subject: [pm-h] Open Source Symposium 2008 Call For Participation Message-ID: <7f7c2d5e0710251151w3d14773dt5ee7fbbd3ae8b02a@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I am pleased to announce the official Call For Participation for the Open Source Symposium 2008! http://www.texasoss.org/cfp The Open Source Symposium invites anyone interested in presenting a topic about anything open source related to submit a presentation proposal. Since one of the goals of the symposium is to expose open source to those that may not be familiar with it, we would like to see submissions related to introductory material, as well as more advanced topics. The Open Source Symposium will be April 25-26, at the C J Davidson Conference Center located on the Angelo State University campus, in San Angelo, Texas. Submission deadline is December 15th, 2007. The Open Source Symposium is an inexpensive two-day conference offering talks on various aspects of open source, such as software, development, and best practices. Some topics expected to be covered include Ajax, Perl, Ruby, Ubuntu, MySQL, and Python (the list could go on and on). Through the generosity of our sponsors and open source community members, we are able to keep attendance costs low and event quality high. We are looking for presentations to fill either a 20-minute (preferably) or 50-minute time slot. If you have an idea for a workshop or tutorial that you would like to offer and require more time, please feel free to submit your idea for review (the earlier, the better, as we would need to book an additional room). 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