From Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com  Wed Nov  1 12:02:47 2006
From: Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com (Haufler, Wayne A)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:02:47 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Sponsorship
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1162238416.25217.houston@pm.org>
Message-ID: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB202835077@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>

To the Houston Perl Mongers group,

There was some mention in a past posting of putting together a YAPC (Yet
Another Perl Conference) Sponsorship package with information about how
to sponsor and what is expected of a sponsor; that sort of thing.

I have just heard back from my sponsorship queries here at Boeing.
Unfortunately, YAPC sponsorship does not fit the criteria of Community
Relations.  But it turns out that if I can build a good business case,
which would have to involve Houston Boeing's main customer, NASA, then
there is a chance of Boeing sponsorship under Business Development.
Obviously, most any company would want to be able to benefit from
sponsorship.  

Thus I must ask if anyone knows if there is any or any potential NASA
involvement in this YAPC conference.  Frankly, I doubt there is, but it
doesn't hurt to ask, unless just raising the topic is somehow wrong.
NASA involvement might mean NASA sponsorship, or key NASA people
involved and/or speaking.  I'd be pleasantly surprised if NASA, except
for a few developers, is even aware of YAPC.

Know about any (potential) involvement of other NASA contractors?

A sponsorship package, with monetary details, would also help build my
case for Boeing sponsorship.

Thanks much,
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
Wayne A. Haufler
Senior Software Engineer (SE)
In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
Backup Flight System (BFS) Tools Group
Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
Voice: 	281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 1C23
E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
Skills    :  Perl,Unix,C,C++,SQL,QNX,X-Windows  

(Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)


From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Nov  1 20:03:48 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 22:03:48 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November Presentation Questions
Message-ID: <20061101220348.108130d6@sovvan>

We've still got some questions outstanding about the November
presentation and I haven't heard much from the list.

Just to recap where we stand.

Location:
 - We still have the option of meeting at HAL-PC at 7pm, but they are
   requiring membership cards to get in.

 - Todd has gotten us a meeting space in a building downtown (1111
   Fannin) at around 6pm. This is a new location, so the start of the
   meeting may be a little more flexible.

 - We've also discussed the possibility of attempting some kind of
   virtual meeting to get the Clear Lake group involved.

 - Possibility of reconsidering locations for next year.

Presentation Topic:
 - Todd has offered to talk about three useful modules: Getopt::Euclid,
   Smart::Comments, Log4Perl

 - We talked about a presentation on creating modules using
   Module::Starter and other modules that support module creation.

We've put these questions on the list and I haven't seen many opinions
coming back.

Does anyone have any opinion on these issues? Would a new meeting place
make people more or less likely to come to the meetings?

Hello. Hello. Is this thing on?

G. Wade
-- 
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but
when you do, it blows away your whole leg.      -- Bjarne Stroustrup

From blblack at gmail.com  Wed Nov  1 21:00:12 2006
From: blblack at gmail.com (Brandon Black)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:00:12 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November Presentation Questions
In-Reply-To: <20061101220348.108130d6@sovvan>
References: <20061101220348.108130d6@sovvan>
Message-ID: <84621a60611012100v5d89b7cbie3ec06d7d7bf16d4@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/1/06, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:

> Does anyone have any opinion on these issues? Would a new meeting place
> make people more or less likely to come to the meetings?
>
> Hello. Hello. Is this thing on?


Fannin sounds better than HAL-PC to me, personally.

-- Brandon
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From mikeflan at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  2 04:18:41 2006
From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 06:18:41 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November Presentation Questions
References: <20061101220348.108130d6@sovvan>
	<84621a60611012100v5d89b7cbie3ec06d7d7bf16d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4549E220.7BB3D121@earthlink.net>


Brandon Black wrote:

>  On 11/1/06, G. Wade Johnson <gwadej at anomaly.org> wrote:
>
>      Does anyone have any opinion on these issues? Would a new
>      meeting place
>      make people more or less likely to come to the meetings?
>
>      Hello. Hello. Is this thing on?
>
>
> Fannin sounds better than HAL-PC to me, personally.
>
> -- Brandon

I agree.  I think it's a little better as long as parking
is free.  But don't go by me - I probably still won't
be showing up very often until it is more convenient.


Mike



From gwadej at anomaly.org  Sat Nov  4 19:31:51 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 21:31:51 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Article on Perl Hashes
Message-ID: <20061104213151.7c6688d8@sovvan>

There's a good article on Perl.com that covers some of the various uses
of Perl hashes.

http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2006/11/02/all-about-hashes.html

G. Wade
-- 
Contrary to popular opinion, the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'fact'.

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Nov  7 19:00:39 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:00:39 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November Houston.pm meeting
Message-ID: <20061107210039.4148ab15@sovvan>

Just a quick announcement about the Houston.pm meeting for this month.
November's meeting will be on Nov. 14 (next Tuesday).

Unlike previous meetings, this one will be downtown at 1111 Fannin St.
in basement room A at 6pm (we'll probably start around 6:15 to give
people time to get there.

A map is located below.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1111+fannin+77002&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=19&
ll=29.754784,-95.365013&spn=0.001106,0.002682&t=h

Parking on the street is free after 6pm.

Todd Rinaldo will be presenting on the modules Getopt::Euclid,
Smart::Comments, and Log4Perl.

I will update the meeting information on the web site tonight or
tomorrow. If you know of anyone who is likely to come but would not get
the email, please pass it on.

G. Wade
-- 
"I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated
rate."                             -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Nov  8 18:35:53 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 20:35:53 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Meeting information updated
Message-ID: <20061108203553.44040ce0@sovvan>

The information for the November meeting has been updated on the
website. The information also includes a Google map to the location.

http://houston.pm.org/meetings.html

G. Wade
-- 
The purpose of software engineering is to control complexity, not to
create it.                                         -- Dr. Pamela Zave

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Nov 10 20:05:46 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:05:46 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] O'Reilly User Group Discount
Message-ID: <20061110220546.445d256a@sovvan>

I just got email from our contact at O'Reilly. Our user group discount
has been increased from 30% to 35%. To use the discount, you can use
the same discount code we've had before.

G. Wade
-- 
That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and
complex tasks impossible.
           -- John William Chambless, <39v25i$2rbc at whale.st.usm.edu>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 13 04:49:03 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 06:49:03 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Tuesday's meeting
Message-ID: <20061113064903.4c209181@sovvan>

Another reminder of tomorrow night's meeting.

We will not be meeting at HAL-PC, we will be meeting at 1111 Fannin.

A map is located below.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=1111+fannin+77002&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=19&
ll=29.754784,-95.365013&spn=0.001106,0.002682&t=h

Parking on the street is free after 6pm.

Todd Rinaldo will be presenting on the modules Getopt::Euclid,
Smart::Comments, and Log4Perl.

Hope to see you all there,
G. Wade
-- 
Bugs thrive on poor housekeeping and inadequate hygine. Where one is
tolerated, many are found.                          -- Rick Hoselton

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Nov 14 20:55:42 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:55:42 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Tonight's Meeting
Message-ID: <20061114225542.370d3d58@sovvan>

As reported before, we tried out a new location (and time) for the
meeting tonight. We had a pretty good turnout. Todd lead a discussion
on three modules that he has been using lately. I'll summarize the
meeting on the website in the next few days.

After the main presentation, the audience asked about the progress of
the YAPC preparation. Additionally, several people expressed an
interest in helping. In order to improve the group's participation in
the YAPC, we are going to try to make a few changes:

 * We will be sending more of the general email about our current
   progress to the this mailing list.

 * We will try to keep a todo list on the Wiki that we can update and
   people can use to volunteer.

 * We will try to get the sponsorship information available soon so
  people can talk to their employers.

If you see anything on the todo list (once it is set up) or anything on
the mailing list that you think you would like to volunteer to work on,
feel free to post to the list or the Wiki.

G. Wade
-- 
Why do your people ask if someone's ready right before you are going to
do something massively unwise?        -- Delenn - "The War without End"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Nov 14 21:09:47 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:09:47 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl::Critic
Message-ID: <20061114230947.1af412e5@sovvan>

Perl::Critic was apparently updated at the Chicago Hackathon recently.
There are new policies as well as some cleanup of the code.

G. Wade
-- 
Who knows what email lurks in the hearts of men?

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Nov 15 05:11:43 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:11:43 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Debugger
Message-ID: <20061115071143.5968ab33@sovvan>

At the meeting last night, Tod said that one of the things he likes
about Komodo is the graphical debugger. If you already have a favorite
editor and still want graphical debugging, check out Devel::ptkdb.

It requires the Tk module be installed, but it provides graphical
debugging of a Perl script. You execute it as part of the perl command
line.

  perl -d:ptkdb script-to-debug.pl

I've been using it for quite a few years.

G. Wade
-- 
Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
                                                       -- Mark Twain

From Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com  Wed Nov 15 12:26:37 2006
From: Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com (Haufler, Wayne A)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:26:37 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl::Critic
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1163620821.31403.houston@pm.org>
Message-ID: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB2028350A2@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>

It seems to me the obvious need and next step would be for that or a
related module to actually modify the analyzed code to implement code
improvements so as to follow selected Best Practices, where possible.

I think that automating several of the Perl Best Practices should be
possible, though certainly not for all of them.

I have not yet encountered such a tool yet, or any discussion of one.
Has anyone here?

Thanks,
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
Wayne A. Haufler
Senior Software Engineer (SE)
In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
Backup Flight System (BFS) Tools Group
Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com

(Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)


From robo4288 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 15 13:03:54 2006
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:03:54 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl::Critic
In-Reply-To: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB2028350A2@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
References: <mailman.9.1163620821.31403.houston@pm.org>
	<B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB2028350A2@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
Message-ID: <435624390611151303g1433dc08xfffb96be533b6d74@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

    I think an intelligent perl editor was one of the first purposes
of PPI which Perl::Critic is based. I don't know if there was any work
done one the editor but here is an article by the author of PPI on the
subject.

http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/06/09/ppi.html

Robert

On 11/15/06, Haufler, Wayne A <Wayne.A.Haufler at boeing.com> wrote:
> It seems to me the obvious need and next step would be for that or a
> related module to actually modify the analyzed code to implement code
> improvements so as to follow selected Best Practices, where possible.
>
> I think that automating several of the Perl Best Practices should be
> possible, though certainly not for all of them.
>
> I have not yet encountered such a tool yet, or any discussion of one.
> Has anyone here?
>
> Thanks,
> -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> Wayne A. Haufler
> Senior Software Engineer (SE)
> In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
> Backup Flight System (BFS) Tools Group
> Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
> E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
>
> (Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
> represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu  Wed Nov 15 14:47:33 2006
From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:47:33 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl::Critic
Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D632@xchng.msc.tamu.edu>

Robert Boone wrote:
>     I think an intelligent perl editor was one of the first purposes
> of PPI which Perl::Critic is based. I don't know if there was any work
> done one the editor but here is an article by the author of PPI on the
> subject.
> 
> http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2005/06/09/ppi.html

Hey, that's Adam Kennedy ('should' be at YAPC next year)!  Anyway, Chris
Dolan has a use Perl posting relating to Perl::Critic and thought some
of you might be interested:
http://use.perl.org/~ChrisDolan/journal/31617

Jeremy

From mikeflan at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 15 18:26:31 2006
From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:26:31 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Sponsorship
References: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB202835077@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
Message-ID: <455BCC56.BD3388C1@earthlink.net>


I would think that NASA might be interested if we could only
find the right person to talk to.  I thought you might know who
to contact there.

I don't know who the right person is at NASA, but I'd go
to my acquaintances at LPI to find out who to talk to.  If
you want me to do that, just say so.  Maybe you know a
few people over at LPI (Lunar and Planetary Institute) also.

I'm trying to think of other companies to contact in the
Houston area.  I guess I'm to far removed from the
programming community to come up with any good
candidates.


Mike


"Haufler, Wayne A" wrote:

> To the Houston Perl Mongers group,
>
> There was some mention in a past posting of putting together a YAPC (Yet
> Another Perl Conference) Sponsorship package with information about how
> to sponsor and what is expected of a sponsor; that sort of thing.
>
> I have just heard back from my sponsorship queries here at Boeing.
> Unfortunately, YAPC sponsorship does not fit the criteria of Community
> Relations.  But it turns out that if I can build a good business case,
> which would have to involve Houston Boeing's main customer, NASA, then
> there is a chance of Boeing sponsorship under Business Development.
> Obviously, most any company would want to be able to benefit from
> sponsorship.
>
> Thus I must ask if anyone knows if there is any or any potential NASA
> involvement in this YAPC conference.  Frankly, I doubt there is, but it
> doesn't hurt to ask, unless just raising the topic is somehow wrong.
> NASA involvement might mean NASA sponsorship, or key NASA people
> involved and/or speaking.  I'd be pleasantly surprised if NASA, except
> for a few developers, is even aware of YAPC.
>
> Know about any (potential) involvement of other NASA contractors?
>
> A sponsorship package, with monetary details, would also help build my
> case for Boeing sponsorship.
>
> Thanks much,
> -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
> Wayne A. Haufler
> Senior Software Engineer (SE)
> In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
> Backup Flight System (BFS) Tools Group
> Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
> Voice:  281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 1C23
> E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
> Skills    :  Perl,Unix,C,C++,SQL,QNX,X-Windows
>
> (Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
> represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/


From ben at cpanel.net  Wed Nov 15 19:24:09 2006
From: ben at cpanel.net (Ben M. Thomas)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:24:09 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Sponsorship
In-Reply-To: <455BCC56.BD3388C1@earthlink.net>
References: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB202835077@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
	<455BCC56.BD3388C1@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4A1E3519-2719-49C9-A6E1-508A071EED1D@cpanel.net>

I would certainly be interested in hearing how much sponsorship will  
be required to make YAPC successful. While no official commitment has  
been made, cPanel has already cleared an allotment in our budget for  
sponsorship. We're just waiting to hear some more information at this  
point.

-----------------------------
Ben M. Thomas
cPanel, Inc.


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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Nov 15 20:24:30 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:24:30 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Todo list for YAPC Houston
Message-ID: <20061115222430.1e25bd11@sovvan>

For those interested in helping out with YAPC, there is an initial list
of things we need to work on at the website:

http://yapchouston.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/ToDo

There are probably still some outstanding items, but this should give
an idea of what we think needs doing.

G. Wade
-- 
"And so it begins"                                -- Ambassador Kosh

From tigger at io.com  Thu Nov 16 05:41:06 2006
From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer)
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:41:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Sponsorship
In-Reply-To: <455BCC56.BD3388C1@earthlink.net>
References: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB202835077@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
	<455BCC56.BD3388C1@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20061116074010.L28718@fnord.io.com>

You might try Barrios Technology, as well as other NASA contractors. I used 
to work for Barrios, and at the time anyway, they did a lot of the computer 
maintenance for NASA.

Paul



Yesterday, Mike Flannigan wrote:

>
> I would think that NASA might be interested if we could only
> find the right person to talk to.  I thought you might know who
> to contact there.
>
> I don't know who the right person is at NASA, but I'd go
> to my acquaintances at LPI to find out who to talk to.  If
> you want me to do that, just say so.  Maybe you know a
> few people over at LPI (Lunar and Planetary Institute) also.
>
> I'm trying to think of other companies to contact in the
> Houston area.  I guess I'm to far removed from the
> programming community to come up with any good
> candidates.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Haufler, Wayne A" wrote:
>
>> To the Houston Perl Mongers group,
>>
>> There was some mention in a past posting of putting together a YAPC (Yet
>> Another Perl Conference) Sponsorship package with information about how
>> to sponsor and what is expected of a sponsor; that sort of thing.
>>
>> I have just heard back from my sponsorship queries here at Boeing.
>> Unfortunately, YAPC sponsorship does not fit the criteria of Community
>> Relations.  But it turns out that if I can build a good business case,
>> which would have to involve Houston Boeing's main customer, NASA, then
>> there is a chance of Boeing sponsorship under Business Development.
>> Obviously, most any company would want to be able to benefit from
>> sponsorship.
>>
>> Thus I must ask if anyone knows if there is any or any potential NASA
>> involvement in this YAPC conference.  Frankly, I doubt there is, but it
>> doesn't hurt to ask, unless just raising the topic is somehow wrong.
>> NASA involvement might mean NASA sponsorship, or key NASA people
>> involved and/or speaking.  I'd be pleasantly surprised if NASA, except
>> for a few developers, is even aware of YAPC.
>>
>> Know about any (potential) involvement of other NASA contractors?
>>
>> A sponsorship package, with monetary details, would also help build my
>> case for Boeing sponsorship.
>>
>> Thanks much,
>> -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--
>> Wayne A. Haufler
>> Senior Software Engineer (SE)
>> In Space Shuttle Program (SSP)
>> Backup Flight System (BFS) Tools Group
>> Boeing, NASA Systems, Houston
>> Voice:  281-226-8626 , Cubicle: 1C23
>> E-mail: wayne.a.haufler at boeing.com
>> Skills    :  Perl,Unix,C,C++,SQL,QNX,X-Windows
>>
>> (Disclaimer: The comments and opinions expressed are my own and do not
>> represent the view of  Boeing, United Space Alliance, JSC, or NASA.)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Houston mailing list
>> Houston at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>



--------------------------------------------------
I got an announcement recently for a conference on
massively parallel computing systems.

They sent me 600 copies.
--------------------------------------------------

From toddr at null.net  Fri Nov 17 04:55:40 2006
From: toddr at null.net (Todd Rinaldo)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:55:40 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
Message-ID: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>

So I'm going to start by apologizing in advance if I'm inserting foot in
mouth.

At the meeting we discussed that the YAPC Houston Wiki is a little
"challenging" to use. A day later, I'm listening to perlcast
(http://perlcast.com/2006/11/04/kirsten-jones-on-the-social-text-wiki/) and
they (Josh McAdams) had an interview with Kristen Jones from Socialtext. 

Social text is a perl based wiki that is open source. It's got all the
multi-user and priveliges, etc built into it. From what I hear it's designed
to have both a non-technical and techy editor to make it easy to use by all.
What's better... They offer hosting. 

I have sent an initial ping to them asking if they'd be interested in
hosting http://yapchouston.org/ in exchange for some plugs both on the wiki
and maybe at the confrence. 

Questions:
1. Who currently hosts the wiki and owns the domain (or, who's feet have I
just stepped on?) 
2. Does anyone have any objections to moving in this direction?
3. I would like to volunteer to help by maintaining the wiki/web content as
we move towards the confrence. Any objections Jeremy?


From tigger at io.com  Fri Nov 17 05:24:34 2006
From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:24:34 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
In-Reply-To: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
References: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
Message-ID: <20061117072356.F9164@fnord.io.com>

If they don't want to host it, I could probably put it up on my personal 
machine (assuming the bandwidth is pretty low).

Paul


6:55am, Todd Rinaldo wrote:

> So I'm going to start by apologizing in advance if I'm inserting foot in
> mouth.
>
> At the meeting we discussed that the YAPC Houston Wiki is a little
> "challenging" to use. A day later, I'm listening to perlcast
> (http://perlcast.com/2006/11/04/kirsten-jones-on-the-social-text-wiki/) and
> they (Josh McAdams) had an interview with Kristen Jones from Socialtext.
>
> Social text is a perl based wiki that is open source. It's got all the
> multi-user and priveliges, etc built into it. From what I hear it's designed
> to have both a non-technical and techy editor to make it easy to use by all.
> What's better... They offer hosting.
>
> I have sent an initial ping to them asking if they'd be interested in
> hosting http://yapchouston.org/ in exchange for some plugs both on the wiki
> and maybe at the confrence.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Who currently hosts the wiki and owns the domain (or, who's feet have I
> just stepped on?)
> 2. Does anyone have any objections to moving in this direction?
> 3. I would like to volunteer to help by maintaining the wiki/web content as
> we move towards the confrence. Any objections Jeremy?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>



------------------------------
Some people are like Slinkies:
Not really good for anything,
but they still bring a smile
to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs.
------------------------------

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Fri Nov 17 05:16:27 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:16:27 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
In-Reply-To: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
References: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
Message-ID: <20061117071627.7dc8f12f@sovvan>

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:55:40 -0600
"Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at null.net> wrote:

> So I'm going to start by apologizing in advance if I'm inserting foot
> in mouth.
> 
> At the meeting we discussed that the YAPC Houston Wiki is a little
> "challenging" to use. A day later, I'm listening to perlcast
> (http://perlcast.com/2006/11/04/kirsten-jones-on-the-social-text-wiki/)
> and they (Josh McAdams) had an interview with Kristen Jones from
> Socialtext. 
> 
> Social text is a perl based wiki that is open source. It's got all the
> multi-user and priveliges, etc built into it. From what I hear it's
> designed to have both a non-technical and techy editor to make it
> easy to use by all. What's better... They offer hosting. 
> 
> I have sent an initial ping to them asking if they'd be interested in
> hosting http://yapchouston.org/ in exchange for some plugs both on
> the wiki and maybe at the confrence. 
> 
> Questions:
> 1. Who currently hosts the wiki and owns the domain (or, who's feet
> have I just stepped on?) 
> 2. Does anyone have any objections to moving in this direction?
> 3. I would like to volunteer to help by maintaining the wiki/web
> content as we move towards the confrence. Any objections Jeremy?

Will Willis bought the domain and set up the Wiki.

So he would have the final say on what happens with yapchouston.org.

G. Wade
-- 
That's what I love about GUIs: They make simple tasks easier, and
complex tasks impossible.
           -- John William Chambless, <39v25i$2rbc at whale.st.usm.edu>

From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu  Fri Nov 17 07:06:40 2006
From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:06:40 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D63A@xchng.msc.tamu.edu>


G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 06:55:40 -0600
> "Todd Rinaldo" <toddr at null.net> wrote:
> 
> > Social text is a perl based wiki that is open source. It's got all
the
> > multi-user and priveliges, etc built into it. From what I hear it's
> > designed to have both a non-technical and techy editor to make it
> > easy to use by all. What's better... They offer hosting.
> > 
> > I have sent an initial ping to them asking if they'd be interested
in
> > hosting http://yapchouston.org/ in exchange for some plugs both on
> > the wiki and maybe at the confrence.

If we go this route, I know that Andy Lester is a contact for trying to
get it hosted.  Also, they were a sponsor for this year's YAPC in
Chicago.

> > 3. I would like to volunteer to help by maintaining the wiki/web
> > content as we move towards the confrence. Any objections Jeremy?

This year, TPF is going with using ACT (A Conference Toolkit -
http://act.mongueurs.net/) for the yapc site.  YAPC::EU is using it
http://vienna.yapceurope.org (and several others have used it in the
past).  I'll send you the information about it and let you know what is
needed to get access to it.

> Will Willis bought the domain and set up the Wiki.
> 
> So he would have the final say on what happens with yapchouston.org.

Either way it goes, are we able to point wiki.yapchouston.org to one
place and www.yapchouston.org to another?  It would be good to point the
ACT site (A Conference Toolkit) to www.yapchouson.org once we get it
setup.

220 days until YAPC::NA 2007!!

--jeremy

From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu  Fri Nov 17 09:26:43 2006
From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:26:43 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] web badges
Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D643@xchng.msc.tamu.edu>

Just playing around with some web badges:
http://brazosvalley.pm.org/badges.html

 

 

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Programmer/Analyst
Memorial Student Center
Texas A&M University
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From robo4288 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 17 08:17:04 2006
From: robo4288 at gmail.com (Robert Boone)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:17:04 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Perl Scheme Interpreter
Message-ID: <435624390611170817t698e454h3163b1a4436cbfd9@mail.gmail.com>

I saw this on perlmonks and I thought I would share. I figure it's a
good way to learn a little lisp and lot of perl...

http://billhails.net/Book/

Robert

From will.willis at gmail.com  Fri Nov 17 19:08:31 2006
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:08:31 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
In-Reply-To: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
References: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090611171908v43e870f5s8c6a5277276c5bba@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/17/06, Todd Rinaldo <toddr at null.net> wrote:
> So I'm going to start by apologizing in advance if I'm inserting foot in
> mouth.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Who currently hosts the wiki and owns the domain (or, who's feet have I
> just stepped on?)

As was mentioned earlier, I registered and host the domain.

> 2. Does anyone have any objections to moving in this direction?

I'm open to using the most efficient platform we can to organize yapc.
I had no previous experience with any Perl based wikis so I went to
#Perl for suggestions. Randal Schwartz was the only one to respond
with a suggestion, and that was the wiki I installed.

After a few days I realized that it probably wasn't the best choice,
but having set the ball in motion I didn't want to slow things down by
migrating to a different solution.

I may have the resources available to have the site hosted (I can find
out by Monday), but if socialtext would be willing to host the site in
exchange for some free promotion that sounds like a win too.

> 3. I would like to volunteer to help by maintaining the wiki/web content as
> we move towards the confrence. Any objections Jeremy?

As Jeremy mentioned, the *official* site will be hosted by TPF, I
liked his idea of pointing yapchouston.org to the TPF site and have
wiki.yapchouston.org be used as an organization tool for those of us
involved in organization.

And no worries, no feet were stepped on =) not mine anyway.

-Will

From andy at petdance.com  Fri Nov 17 19:25:43 2006
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:25:43 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
In-Reply-To: <6ee1e6090611171908v43e870f5s8c6a5277276c5bba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
	<6ee1e6090611171908v43e870f5s8c6a5277276c5bba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D22D2475-0EBD-4F4A-BB6E-82F5DE30AD78@petdance.com>

Hi, I'm Andy Lester, and I'm the manager of the open source project  
for Socialtext.  I've got Socialtext open running on my home server,  
and we ran the wiki for the Chicago Hackathon on it.  See http:// 
rakudo.org/hackathon-chicago/.

Also, in the next few weeks, I'll be installing Socialtext on the  
pm.org and perl.org infrastructure.  This will allow wiki workspaces  
for Perl Mongers groups, and for other TPF-related projects,  
including YAPC.

Would you like me to start a Houston YAPC workspace for you on  
rakudo.org to get things going?

Andy

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





From mikeflan at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 20 06:28:38 2006
From: mikeflan at earthlink.net (Mike Flannigan)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:28:38 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Sponsorship
References: <B8D3B35D6093544C8B8813275BD7DDB202835077@XCH-SE-2V2.se.nos.boeing.com>
	<455BCC56.BD3388C1@earthlink.net>
	<4A1E3519-2719-49C9-A6E1-508A071EED1D@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <4561BB96.B7D37C18@earthlink.net>


"Ben M. Thomas" wrote:

> I would certainly be interested in hearing how much sponsorship will
> be required to make YAPC successful. While no official commitment has
> been made, cPanel has already cleared an allotment in our budget for
> sponsorship. We're just waiting to hear some more information at this
> point.
>
> -----------------------------
> Ben M. Thomas
> cPanel, Inc.



Thank you Ben.  I don't have that information to provide
you right now, but I'm sure we will get back to you soon on
this.  We sure appreciate your commitment to the Perl
community.


Thank you Paul.  Barrios Technology is a good candidate.


Mike

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 20 07:26:58 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:26:58 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
Message-ID: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>

Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting location?

We had a pretty good turn out. It was not our biggest group, but
definitely not our smallest.

Was there anyone who would have gone to meeting and didn't since we
were at a different location?

G. Wade
-- 
That which does not kill me makes me stranger.         -- Larry Wall

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 20 07:43:00 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:43:00 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Wiki hosting
Message-ID: <20061120094300.62b5200f@sovvan>

Thanks to the generous offer from Andy Lester at the end of last week
we have now reached three independent possibilities for hosting the
YAPC Houston Wiki.

 * Will's original wiki that was used on the proposal
 * Todd contacted Socialtext, who does hosting
 * Andy offered a Socialtext wiki, hosted on his servers

I'm leaning toward taking Andy up on his offer. Since he has already
helped with the hosting of the YAPC Chicago wiki, it should be a good
fit.

Anyone have any disagreement?

G. Wade
-- 
"I can only conclude that I'm paying off karma at a vastly accelerated
rate."                             -- Ivanova, "Points of Departure"

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 20 07:33:20 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:33:20 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] YAPC Sponsorships
Message-ID: <20061120093320.74d5aae2@sovvan>

For those who have been asking (and those who have just been wondering)
I'm going to make an attempt to get our sponsorship documentation in
order this week.

The general plan at this point is to provide some number of sponsorship
levels and a small number of special sponsorships (sponsor a room,
etc.). We'll be modelling the plan to some extent on the work (and
lessons learned) of the Chicago group.

I guess that also means that I am volunteering as a contact person for
any companies that want to discuss sponsorships.

G. Wade
-- 
If there's no problem, there's no solution.         -- Rick Hoselton

From weyus at att.net  Mon Nov 20 12:01:04 2006
From: weyus at att.net (Wes Gamble)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:01:04 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
References: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
Message-ID: <45620980.8040702@att.net>

I've been lurking on the list forever, and really would like to come to 
a meeting.  I'm interested in helping w/YAPC in some capacity if I can.  
I think it's great that y'all brought it here.  Unfortunately on timing, 
I've been going to the Ruby/Rails user group meetings and most of the 
time, they seem to fall on the same Tuesday as Houston - PM, so I 
haven't been able to make it.

The 1111 Fannin location is great for me, since I live very close to there.

Wes Gamble


G. Wade Johnson wrote:

>Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting location?
>
>We had a pretty good turn out. It was not our biggest group, but
>definitely not our smallest.
>
>Was there anyone who would have gone to meeting and didn't since we
>were at a different location?
>
>G. Wade
>  
>

From tigger at io.com  Mon Nov 20 07:30:36 2006
From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 09:30:36 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
References: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
Message-ID: <20061120092913.A20789@fnord.io.com>

9:26am, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

> Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting location?
>
> We had a pretty good turn out. It was not our biggest group, but
> definitely not our smallest.
>
> Was there anyone who would have gone to meeting and didn't since we
> were at a different location?
>

I ended up not going because of the new location. I didn't want to trek 
downtown at rush hour. (But I was also pretty tired that day, so that 
influenced me a lot.)

Paul




------------------------------
Some people are like Slinkies:
Not really good for anything,
but they still bring a smile
to your face when you push
them down a flight of stairs.
------------------------------

From ben at cpanel.net  Mon Nov 20 17:24:26 2006
From: ben at cpanel.net (Ben M. Thomas)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:24:26 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
References: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
Message-ID: <891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>

On Nov 20, 2006, at 9:26 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

> Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting location?

I attended the meeting last Tuesday and overall I'd say the Fannin  
location is perfectly serviceable. Traffic coming into downtown at  
that time is a minor inconvenience but with thoughtful route planning  
shouldn't be an issue. Finding free parking on the street wasn't too  
difficult. The room itself is reasonably laid out and conducive to PM  
presentations.

However, I think the West Loop HCC location would still be better for  
location, traffic, and parking.

http://swc2.hccs.edu/swc/0506/operations/westloop.php

Their map is a little inaccurate; this is a google maps approximation:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Pin+Oak+Park,+Houston+TX 
+77081&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1&iwloc=addr

-----------------------------
Ben M. Thomas
cPanel, Inc.


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From weyus at att.net  Mon Nov 20 17:28:46 2006
From: weyus at att.net (Wes Gamble)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:28:46 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>
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Message-ID: <4562564E.50909@att.net>

The Houston Java users group meets @ HCC.

If anyone wants to talk to the guy who puts the meetings together in 
order to find out about how to reserve a room, I could put you in touch 
with him.

Wes

Ben M. Thomas wrote:

> On Nov 20, 2006, at 9:26 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting location?
>
>
> I attended the meeting last Tuesday and overall I'd say the Fannin  
> location is perfectly serviceable. Traffic coming into downtown at  
> that time is a minor inconvenience but with thoughtful route planning  
> shouldn't be an issue. Finding free parking on the street wasn't too  
> difficult. The room itself is reasonably laid out and conducive to PM  
> presentations.
>
> However, I think the West Loop HCC location would still be better for  
> location, traffic, and parking.
>
> http://swc2.hccs.edu/swc/0506/operations/westloop.php
>
> Their map is a little inaccurate; this is a google maps approximation:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Pin+Oak+Park,+Houston+TX 
> +77081&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1&iwloc=addr
>
> -----------------------------
> Ben M. Thomas
> cPanel, Inc.
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>Houston mailing list
>Houston at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 20 20:25:31 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:25:31 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>
References: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
	<891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <20061120222531.3bfab56d@sovvan>

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:24:26 -0600
"Ben M. Thomas" <ben at cpanel.net> wrote:

> On Nov 20, 2006, at 9:26 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting
> > location?
> 
> I attended the meeting last Tuesday and overall I'd say the Fannin  
> location is perfectly serviceable. Traffic coming into downtown at  
> that time is a minor inconvenience but with thoughtful route
> planning shouldn't be an issue. Finding free parking on the street
> wasn't too difficult. The room itself is reasonably laid out and
> conducive to PM presentations.
> 
> However, I think the West Loop HCC location would still be better
> for location, traffic, and parking.
> 
> http://swc2.hccs.edu/swc/0506/operations/westloop.php
> 
> Their map is a little inaccurate; this is a google maps approximation:
> 
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Pin+Oak+Park,+Houston+TX 
> +77081&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1&iwloc=addr

We actually checked with HCC and they said they wouldn't be able to
schedule any rooms until after the beginning of the year.

G. Wade
-- 
There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. -- C. A. R. Hoare

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 20 20:26:39 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:26:39 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <4562564E.50909@att.net>
References: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
	<891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>
	<4562564E.50909@att.net>
Message-ID: <20061120222639.6dec88e5@sovvan>

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:28:46 -0600
Wes Gamble <weyus at att.net> wrote:

> The Houston Java users group meets @ HCC.
> 
> If anyone wants to talk to the guy who puts the meetings together in 
> order to find out about how to reserve a room, I could put you in
> touch with him.

Wes,

If you have a contact, please let me know. I'll be glad to check with
him to look at scheduling future meetings.

G. Wade
-- 
The user's going to pick dancing pigs over security every time.
                                                   -- Bruce Schneier

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Tue Nov 21 08:15:11 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:15:11 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] November presentation notes
Message-ID: <20061121101511.4343c475@sovvan>

The notes on the November presentation are up on the site.

http://houston.pm.org/talks/2006talks/0611Talk/index.html

Sorry it took so long to get the site updated.

G. Wade
-- 
All things are possible, given enough time and caffeine.
                                                     -- Danny Hoover

From john at nixnuts.net  Tue Nov 21 13:19:01 2006
From: john at nixnuts.net (John Lightsey)
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:19:01 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New meeting location
In-Reply-To: <891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>
References: <20061120092658.7b0075d6@sovvan>
	<891B712B-96E5-4701-852D-33EFEE9F474A@cpanel.net>
Message-ID: <1164143941.15750.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 19:24 -0600, Ben M. Thomas wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2006, at 9:26 AM, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have any comments about the 1111 Fannin meeting location?
> 

For me the downtown location is a more difficult drive than HAL-PC.
Parking was reasonable though and the facilities were good.  It would be
much better IMHO if the doors were left unlocked or if the guard would
let in late arrivals.

> However, I think the West Loop HCC location would still be better for  
> location, traffic, and parking.

I've taken a few tests at this location before.  The traffic at 610 & 59
can get out of control sometimes.

I suppose if we're meeting around 6 or 7pm, traffic will be a problem
regardless of where the meeting is held.

John
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From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu  Mon Nov 27 08:17:01 2006
From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:17:01 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Tonight's Meeting
Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D64C@xchng.msc.tamu.edu>

G. Wade Johnson wrote:
> After the main presentation, the audience asked about the progress of
> the YAPC preparation. Additionally, several people expressed an
> interest in helping. In order to improve the group's participation in
> the YAPC, we are going to try to make a few changes:
> 
>  * We will try to keep a todo list on the Wiki that we can update and
>    people can use to volunteer.
> 
> ....
> 
> If you see anything on the todo list (once it is set up) or anything
on
> the mailing list that you think you would like to volunteer to work
on,
> feel free to post to the list or the Wiki.

I don't remember if it was sent out or not, but the yapc wiki ToDo list
has been updated.  We will be working on generating a more detailed and
categorized list so that people can take smaller chunks if they wish or
an entire section.

ToDo - http://yapchouston.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/ToDo

Once we get the Socialtext page setup, it will be very easy to track
volunteers and todo items.  I've gotten to play around with a Socialtext
wiki (Perl.org infrastructure) and it's pretty nice.  The Watchlists
will help the group keep up-to-date on changes made and yapc
organization progress.

Jeremy

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 27 16:31:25 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:31:25 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] Wiki Alternatives
In-Reply-To: <D22D2475-0EBD-4F4A-BB6E-82F5DE30AD78@petdance.com>
References: <005c01c70a47$afdf20e0$0201a8c0@centurysupply.com>
	<6ee1e6090611171908v43e870f5s8c6a5277276c5bba@mail.gmail.com>
	<D22D2475-0EBD-4F4A-BB6E-82F5DE30AD78@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <20061127183125.36b823a8@sovvan>

Hi Andy,

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 21:25:43 -0600
Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:

> Hi, I'm Andy Lester, and I'm the manager of the open source project  
> for Socialtext.  I've got Socialtext open running on my home server,  
> and we ran the wiki for the Chicago Hackathon on it.  See http:// 
> rakudo.org/hackathon-chicago/.
> 
> Also, in the next few weeks, I'll be installing Socialtext on the  
> pm.org and perl.org infrastructure.  This will allow wiki workspaces  
> for Perl Mongers groups, and for other TPF-related projects,  
> including YAPC.
> 
> Would you like me to start a Houston YAPC workspace for you on  
> rakudo.org to get things going?

Sorry I haven't responded to this is sooner.

Yes, we'd like to start the Houston YAPC workspace if it would not be
too much trouble.

Thank you for your help.
G. Wade
-- 
DON'T PANIC! I'm a trained professional, and far more qualified to
panic in this situation than you are.

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 27 16:34:24 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 18:34:24 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
Message-ID: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>

We need to make some decisions on the December social meeting. The main
two are when and where?

I'm thinking of some time in the first two weeks of December.

My wife suggested "the Black Lab".

If you have an opinion on time/date or location/cuisine, post to the
list this week. If I haven't heard from anyone by then, I'll pick a
date and location and let the list know this weekend.

G. Wade
-- 
Who knows what email lurks in the hearts of men?

From tigger at io.com  Mon Nov 27 17:18:11 2006
From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:18:11 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
References: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
Message-ID: <20061127191729.O87163@fnord.io.com>

I'm OK with the Black Lab--but the parking's not so great there. Maybe the 
Mucky Duck as an alternative?

Paul


6:34pm, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

> We need to make some decisions on the December social meeting. The main
> two are when and where?
>
> I'm thinking of some time in the first two weeks of December.
>
> My wife suggested "the Black Lab".
>
> If you have an opinion on time/date or location/cuisine, post to the
> list this week. If I haven't heard from anyone by then, I'll pick a
> date and location and let the list know this weekend.
>
> G. Wade
> -- 
> Who knows what email lurks in the hearts of men?
> _______________________________________________
> Houston mailing list
> Houston at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
> Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>



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helpful translation of Judge Jackson's 43-page opinion into "Windowese":

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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 27 18:40:28 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:40:28 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20061127191729.O87163@fnord.io.com>
References: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
	<20061127191729.O87163@fnord.io.com>
Message-ID: <20061127204028.7bb97194@sovvan>

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:18:11 -0600 (CST)
Paul Archer <tigger at io.com> wrote:

> I'm OK with the Black Lab--but the parking's not so great there.
> Maybe the Mucky Duck as an alternative?

I forgot about parking at the Black Lab. Maybe that's not such a good
idea.

I've never been to the Mucky Duck. Is the parking better? How's the
food?

G. Wade
-- 
Bugs thrive on poor housekeeping and inadequate hygiene. Where one is
tolerated, many are found.                          -- Rick Hoselton

From tigger at io.com  Mon Nov 27 19:01:45 2006
From: tigger at io.com (Paul Archer)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:01:45 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20061127204028.7bb97194@sovvan>
References: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
	<20061127191729.O87163@fnord.io.com>
	<20061127204028.7bb97194@sovvan>
Message-ID: <20061127205938.U87163@fnord.io.com>

8:40pm, G. Wade Johnson wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:18:11 -0600 (CST)
> Paul Archer <tigger at io.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm OK with the Black Lab--but the parking's not so great there.
>> Maybe the Mucky Duck as an alternative?
>
> I forgot about parking at the Black Lab. Maybe that's not such a good
> idea.
>
> I've never been to the Mucky Duck. Is the parking better? How's the
> food?
>

The parking lot is smallish, but there's plenty of parking on the street. 
They have a limited selection of food (lots of beers, though), but as I 
recall, their shepherd's pie is pretty good.
If we're talking pubs, there's Kenneally's Irish Pub on S Shepherd. They 
make the best pizza in town.

Paul

From weyus at att.net  Mon Nov 27 19:37:51 2006
From: weyus at att.net (Wes Gamble)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:37:51 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20061127205938.U87163@fnord.io.com>
References: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>	<20061127191729.O87163@fnord.io.com>	<20061127204028.7bb97194@sovvan>
	<20061127205938.U87163@fnord.io.com>
Message-ID: <456BAF0F.6010804@att.net>

Keep in mind that the Mucky Duck is more of a nightclub than a pub in 
the sense that every night except for Wednesday, there is a performer 
and a cover of at least $10 usually after 7:30  or 8PM.

Wes



Paul Archer wrote:

>8:40pm, G. Wade Johnson wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:18:11 -0600 (CST)
>>Paul Archer <tigger at io.com> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I'm OK with the Black Lab--but the parking's not so great there.
>>>Maybe the Mucky Duck as an alternative?
>>>      
>>>
>>I forgot about parking at the Black Lab. Maybe that's not such a good
>>idea.
>>
>>I've never been to the Mucky Duck. Is the parking better? How's the
>>food?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>The parking lot is smallish, but there's plenty of parking on the street. 
>They have a limited selection of food (lots of beers, though), but as I 
>recall, their shepherd's pie is pretty good.
>If we're talking pubs, there's Kenneally's Irish Pub on S Shepherd. They 
>make the best pizza in town.
>
>Paul
>_______________________________________________
>Houston mailing list
>Houston at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
>Website: http://houston.pm.org/
>
>  
>

From gwadej at anomaly.org  Mon Nov 27 21:17:26 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:17:26 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
In-Reply-To: <456BAF0F.6010804@att.net>
References: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
	<20061127191729.O87163@fnord.io.com>
	<20061127204028.7bb97194@sovvan>
	<20061127205938.U87163@fnord.io.com> <456BAF0F.6010804@att.net>
Message-ID: <20061127231726.1bcad05c@sovvan>

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:37:51 -0600
Wes Gamble <weyus at att.net> wrote:

> Keep in mind that the Mucky Duck is more of a nightclub than a pub in 
> the sense that every night except for Wednesday, there is a performer 
> and a cover of at least $10 usually after 7:30  or 8PM.

Good point.

I was thinking of more like a place for dinner and possibly drinks than
a nightclub sort of place.

Actually, someplace with a room we could reserve would be even better.

I know of a really good Thai place in West U (Sawadee) that would suit,
but I'm not sure how easy it would be for people to get to. (Also the
parking is less than spectacular.)

G. Wade
-- 
I've been living on the edge too long, where the winds of limbo roar.
                      -- "Veteran of Psychic Wars", Blue Oyster Cult

From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu  Mon Nov 27 21:48:13 2006
From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 23:48:13 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF01399E0D@xchng.msc.tamu.edu>

Has anyone been to Brian O'Neill's?  I don't know anything about it, just thought I'd pitch something ;-)  Looks like it's next to Rice.
 
http://www.brianoneills.com/index.shtml
Happy Hour:
Sunday & Monday (all day)
Tuesday from 3pm to 9pm

"A true vintage bar-it was actually built in Ireland and shipped to Houston piece by piece-from the d?cor to the booze to the pub food menu that has your traditional heart clogging Irish fare with some distinctly southwest favorites. "

"A five-time Houston Press Best of Houston winner - "Best Place to Drink Guinness, Best Irish Pub, Best Bar Games and Best Bar Food".
 
 

________________________________

From: houston-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org on behalf of G. Wade Johnson
Sent: Mon 11/27/2006 11:17 PM
To: houston at pm.org
Subject: Re: [pm-h] December Social Meeting



On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:37:51 -0600
Wes Gamble <weyus at att.net> wrote:

> Keep in mind that the Mucky Duck is more of a nightclub than a pub in
> the sense that every night except for Wednesday, there is a performer
> and a cover of at least $10 usually after 7:30  or 8PM.

Good point.

I was thinking of more like a place for dinner and possibly drinks than
a nightclub sort of place.

Actually, someplace with a room we could reserve would be even better.

I know of a really good Thai place in West U (Sawadee) that would suit,
but I'm not sure how easy it would be for people to get to. (Also the
parking is less than spectacular.)

G. Wade
--
I've been living on the edge too long, where the winds of limbo roar.
                      -- "Veteran of Psychic Wars", Blue Oyster Cult
_______________________________________________
Houston mailing list
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http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston
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From gwadej at anomaly.org  Wed Nov 29 05:24:21 2006
From: gwadej at anomaly.org (G. Wade Johnson)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:24:21 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] New YAPC Wiki
Message-ID: <20061129072421.13544cdb@sovvan>

Thanks to Andy Lester, we now have a new SocialText-based wiki for YAPC
planning and coordination: http://rakudo.org/yapc-houston/index.cgi

If you would like to help with the project, register with the wiki to
get edit rights, and add your name to the Volunteers page. If you are
currently working on something, add it to the list. If you are
interested in working on something, add it with some text to say that
you're interested, etc.

This will help us figure out what resources we have.

Jeremy and Will, I've added you guys mostly so I wouldn't look so lonely
on the page. Please update the text to better reflect what's going on.

G. Wade
-- 
If it doesn't have to be right, I can make it arbitrarily fast.
                                                    -- Rick Hoselton

From will.willis at gmail.com  Thu Nov 30 22:23:39 2006
From: will.willis at gmail.com (Will Willis)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:23:39 -0600
Subject: [pm-h] December Social Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
References: <20061127183424.3a9828a2@sovvan>
Message-ID: <6ee1e6090611302223q14d17a68rdf60153b935dc00b@mail.gmail.com>

> We need to make some decisions on the December social meeting. The main
> two are when and where?
>

To throw yet another idea on the table, we could meet at Buffalo Wild
Wings, on our usual date and time, Dec 12 @7pm.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=510+Gray+St,+Houston,+TX+77002&ie=UTF8&z=14&ll=29.752008,-95.375662&spn=0.036811,0.097246&om=1&iwloc=addr

-Will