From williamday at email.com Fri Oct 3 07:38:02 2003 From: williamday at email.com (Bill Day) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Fw: Spam from Que (Perl User Group Books) Message-ID: <20031003123802.31187.qmail@email.com> Looks like we may have even more soruces for books. Do you want to follow up on this Al? P.S. I never saw the original spam. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Cross Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:06:13 +0100 To: pm_groups@pm.org Subject: [pm_groups] Spam from Que > Some of you may have got unsolicited email from Que this morning. It > looks like the person responsible went to a number of the group pages > on http://www.pm.org/ and manually extracted the email addresses > (which a munged so they can't be extracted automatically). > > If you got the email then I encourage you to reply to the email and > (politely!) explain why what they did was wrong (amongst other things > the email had a 350K PDF file attached). > > Of course, you might like to sign up to Que and Sams' user groups > programs. You'll probably get free books. You can get more info at > www.samspublishing.com/usergroups and www.quepublishing.com/usergroups. > > But this leads to another question. Obviously there are people like > Que who want to contact PM groups to offer you free stuff. It would > be good if we could make this easy for the people that we want to > hear from. > > Maybe what we should do is set up another mailing list at pm.org > and allow anyone to post to it, but get submit all posts for > approval by a small team of trusted people. We could then advertise > that list as the best way to contact all Perl Monger groups. I'm > suggesting a separate mailing list as I assume there could be some > groups who don't want any contact from commercial groups. > > What do you all think? > > Dave... > > p.s In case you didn't already know, there is also a User Group > programs at O'Reilly (http://ug.oreilly.com/). > > > -- > It was long ago and it was far away > And it was so much better that it is today > _______________________________________________ > pm_groups mailing list > pm_groups@pm.org > http://www.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers From ed at pcr7.pcr.com Wed Oct 8 10:20:41 2003 From: ed at pcr7.pcr.com (Ed Eddington) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Perl Question: pop sort keys %hash Message-ID: <01C38D8E.35E9E7E0@uranus.pcr.com> A quick Perl oddity... I tried to grab the last element of a sorted list of hash keys in a quick one liner, but was forced to use an array variable. Anybody know why I can't do this? Sort *does* return an array, but pop complains at compile time that its argument isn't an array variable... "Type of arg 1 to pop must be array (not sort)" I tried messing with parens and other bracketry to no avail. Just curious if anyone can explain this. Ed --------------- #!/bin/perl my %hash; $hash{abc}='1'; $hash{xyz}='2'; #my $lastkey = pop sort keys %hash; # this doesn't work. my @sorted = sort keys %hash; # this works using an extra step my $lastkey = pop @sorted; print "last hash key is $lastkey\n"; From matt at diephouse.com Wed Oct 8 17:29:10 2003 From: matt at diephouse.com (Matt Diephouse) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Perl Question: pop sort keys %hash In-Reply-To: <01C38D8E.35E9E7E0@uranus.pcr.com> Message-ID: I already emailed Ed, but realized I didn't send a copy to the group, so I thought I'd give this another go. The reason perl gives that warning is that sort *does not* return an array. Perl actually has both arrays and lists. Here it returns a list, meaning that you can't use pop, which is just for arrays. You can access the last element of a list though, using an index: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; my %hash = ( abc => 1, xyz => 2 ); my $last_key = (sort keys %hash)[-1]; Hope this helps, matt On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Ed Eddington wrote: > A quick Perl oddity... I tried to grab the last element of a sorted > list of hash keys in a quick one liner, but was forced to use an array > variable. Anybody know why I can't do this? Sort *does* return an > array, but pop complains at compile time that its argument isn't an > array variable... > > "Type of arg 1 to pop must be array (not sort)" > > I tried messing with parens and other bracketry to no avail. Just > curious if anyone can explain this. > > Ed > > --------------- > #!/bin/perl > > my %hash; > $hash{abc}='1'; > $hash{xyz}='2'; > > #my $lastkey = pop sort keys %hash; # this doesn't work. > > my @sorted = sort keys %hash; # this works using an extra > step > my $lastkey = pop @sorted; > > print "last hash key is $lastkey\n"; From brandon at echobox.com Tue Oct 21 21:29:58 2003 From: brandon at echobox.com (Brandon) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Job Opportunity Message-ID: <003201c39844$66ab5b50$6401a8c0@echobox00cl76t> Greetings everyone, If this hasn't already found it's way to the group, ThinkGeek.com is looking for a Perl/SQL programmer. http://www.thinkgeek.com/jobs/ Enjoy! Brandon Gohsman EchoBox Interactive O-418 Johnson St. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544 T 616.677.1334 C 616.443.8162 E Brandon@echobox.com W http://www.echobox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20031021/f729210f/attachment.htm From brandon at echobox.com Thu Oct 23 11:47:38 2003 From: brandon at echobox.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 Message-ID: <000101c39985$7b4cd9c0$6501a8c0@echobox4cjty39> Brandon Gohsman EchoBox Interactive O-418 Johnson St. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544 T 616.677.1334 C 616.443.8162 E brandon@echobox.com W http://www.echobox.com -----Original Message----- From: Marsee Henon [mailto:marsee@oreilly.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:45 PM To: Brandon@echobox.com Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 ================================================================ O'Reilly UG Program News--Just for User Group Leaders October 22, 2003 ================================================================ -Encourage your members to write book reviews -Do You Have a Tip, Suggestion, or Question to Share? -Stay Tuned for a New Banner Offer Next Week ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book Info ---------------------------------------------------------------- ***Review books are available Copies of our books are available for your members to review-- send me an email and please include the book order number on your request. 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Ask your group leader for more information. For book review writing tips and suggestions, go to: http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html Don't forget, you can receive 20% off any O'Reilly book you purchase directly from O'Reilly. Just use code DSUG when ordering online or by phone 800-998-9938. http://www.oreilly.com/ ***Free ground shipping is available for online orders of at least $29.95 that go to a single U.S. address. This offer applies to U.S. delivery addresses in the 50 states and Puerto Rico. For more details, go to: http://www.oreilly.com/news/freeshipping_0703.html ***PC Annoyances Order Number: 5938 Don't give up on your PC yet; help is at hand. This easy-to-read, accessible book covers the waterfront of PC gripes and gremlins, with fixes for everything from Windows glitches to browsers that won't browse. These tips and tricks are served up in bite-size portions for quick reading and even quicker fixing. Plus, you get access to more than 100 utilities that will help you squash bugs, enhance your email, untangle system snarls, and much more. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcannoy/ A sample excerpt on "Email" is online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcannoy/chapter/index.html *Come meet "PC Annoyances" author Steve Bass at the upcoming APCUG Fall 2003 Conference in Las Vegas! ***STL Pocket Reference Order Number: 5563 Programmers familiar with the Standard Template Library (STL) need a small, lightweight memory aid. The STL encompasses containers, iterators, algorithms, and function objects, collectively representing one of the most important and widely used subsets of standard library functionality. "STL Pocket Reference" describes the functions, classes, and templates in the STL, and it is chock-full of information that you can take in at a glance, so you can get on with your work. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/stlpr/ A sample excerpt on "Containers" is online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/stlpr/chapter/index.html ================================================ Upcoming Events ================================================ ***For more events, please see: http://events.oreilly.com/ ***User Group members attending the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference-- Come meet up with Marsee Henon (O'Reilly User Group Coordinator) and Lorene Romero (Apple User Group Advisory Board Vendor Relation Coordinator and North Coast Mac Users Group Past President) on Tuesday, October 28 from 6:00pm to 7:30pm at the bar (no-host) in the lobby of the Westin Santa Clara. We can swap stories, ideas, or just hang out. And afterwards, we can attend the "Building Virginia Tech's G5 Supercluster" talk. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2003/view/e_sess/4824 The O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference is October 27-30, 2003 at the Westin Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA For more info or to register for this conference, go to: http://conferences.oreilly.com/macosxcon/ ***Tim O'Reilly, OOPSLA 2003, Anaheim, CA--Oct 26-30 Tim O'Reilly is a keynote speaker at the 18th annual ACM SIGPLAN Conference on Object Oriented Programming, Systems, Languages, and Applications. Anaheim Convention Center, Anaheim, CA. http://oopsla.acm.org/oopsla2003/files/index.html ***Rael Dornfest ("Google Hacks," "Mac OS X Hacks"), Portland Linux/Unix Group, Portland, OR--November 6 Author and editor Rael Dornfest will be speaking about O'Reilly's new "Hacks" book series.The meeting starts at 7:00pm at the Portland State University, Smith Memorial Center room 294/296, Portland, OR. http://www.pdxlinux.org/meeting/ ***ApacheCon, Las Vegas, NV--Nov 16-19 Authors Brian Aker ("Running Weblogs with Slash"), Stas Bekman ("Practical mod_perl"), Rich Bowen and Ken Coar ("Apache Cookbook"), Will Iverson ("Mac OS X for Java Geeks"), Rasmus Lerdorf ("Programming PHP), Doug Tidwell ("XSLT" and "Programming Web Services with SOAP"), and Adam Trachtenberg ("PHP Cookbook") are all speaking at this gathering. Alexis Park Resort Las Vegas, NV. http://www.apachecon.com/2003/US/index.html ================================================ Conference News ================================================ ***Registration Is Open for ETech 2004--San Diego, CA Gather with lead users, forward thinkers, and technology activists at O'Reilly's third annual Emerging Technology Conference to vet the projects and ideas that will radically alter not just the future of computing, but the way we live and work. ETech is slated for February 9-12, 2004 in San Diego, California. Take advantage of our Early Bird discount when you register before January 9, 2004. http://conferences.oreilly.com/etech/ User Group members who register before January 9, 2004 get a double discount. Use code DSUG when you register, and receive 20% off the "Early Bird" price. To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/28/register.html ***Last Week to Register for the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference October 27-30, 2003 Westin Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA http://conferences.oreilly.com/macosxcon/ To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2003/create/ord_mac03 ================================================ News From O'Reilly & Beyond ================================================ --------------------- General News --------------------- ***All Software Should Be Network Aware Apple's original Human Interface Guidelines laid out the company's vision for a set of consistent approaches for GUI applications. Now that we're moving into the era of "software above the level of a single device," we need something similar for network-aware applications. Here are some of the things Tim O'Reilly would like to see universally supported. http://tim.oreilly.com/p2p/netaware.csp ***Two New Book Brochures Available Online We have included these in the Graphics section of our user group page http://ug.oreilly.com/ *Sample Hacks (PDF) Test out hacks from our newest titles "Wireless Hacks," "Ebay Hacks," "Windows XP Hacks," and "TiVo Hacks." http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/ug_sample_hacks.pdf *Gifts for Geeks (PDF) Not sure what to give your geek for the holidays? We have a few suggestions. http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/Geek_Holiday.pdf --------------------- Open Source --------------------- ***Open Source Goes to COMDEX O'Reilly is working with COMDEX to organize an Open Source Innovation Area on the COMDEX exhibit floor. We've nominated 21 projects and we'd like you to help us select the six projects we'll send to the show. Contest ends October 31. Vote today. http://www.oreillynet.com/contest/comdex/ Here is a graphic promoting this contest if you would like to post it on your site: http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/comdex/ ***Most Indispensable Linux Books Over 7,500 readers visited the Linux Journal web site and voted on 28 categories in the 2003 Readers' Choice Awards. The number three pick for most indispensable Linux book is O'Reilly's "Running Linux." And the winner is "Linux in a Nutshell." http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7029 Running Linux, 4th Edition Order Number: 2726 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux4/ Linux in a Nutshell, 4th Edition Order Number: 4826 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxnut4/ ***OpenOffice Irritation Noel Davis looks at problems in OpenOffice, slocate, fetchmail, GDM, Tomcat, ircd, HPUX's dtprintinfo, and Openserver's Xsco. http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/10/20/insecurities.html ***Upgrading a MySQL Application Application upgrades aren't always easy. Throw in a database backend and a schema change, and you're in for a world of hurt--unless you've planned well. Russell Dyer explores techniques for taking the pain out of upgrading database-backed applications. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/10/16/mysql_app_upgrades.html --------------------- Java --------------------- ***The PHP Scalability Myth Java scales...but so does PHP. That's the argument Jack Herrington puts forth in comparing how each can be used to create web applications with modern architectures. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/php_scalability.html ***Creating an Online Help System with JavaHelp and DocBook JavaHelp offers a full-featured help system for Java applications, but creating and maintaining help content can be tricky. Austin King offers an alternative workflow, based on DocBook and XSL. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/javahelp_docbook.html --------------------- .NET --------------------- ***Filtering HTTP Requests with .NET ASP.NET has a number of extensibility points that developers can use. One such point is response filtering, accessible via the Filter property of the HttpResponse class. Ben Lowery shows you how to use HTTP filters in your own code. http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2003/10/20/httpfilter.html --------------------- Windows --------------------- ***Sizing Up Windows Server 2003 It's been almost six months since Windows Server 2003 was released. Microsoft touts it as being able to do things "faster, more securely, and at lower cost." Has it lived up to its promises? Mitch Tulloch, author of "Windows Server 2003 in a Nutshell," looks at whether and how Microsoft has delivered on these promises. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/10/21/sizingserver2003.html Windows Server 2003 in a Nutshell Order Number: 4044 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/winsvrian/index.html --------------------- Mac --------------------- ***Start Me Up: Writing and Understanding OS X StartupItems StartupItems are easy to set up and extremely flexible in managing the startup process. Andrew Anders shows how StartupItems fit into the OS X startup process, what you need to do to create a StartupItem, and an example of a StartupItem that will run the Tomcat Java servlet engine. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/10/21/startup.html ***I Dig Mac OS X With O'Reilly's Mac OS X Conference just around the corner, we're introducing a brand-new T-shirt depicting our trademark Mac OS X German Shepherd--just the thing to wear at the show. Not attending but you still dig Mac OS X? This is the tee for you. Check out all of O'Reilly's cool swag at Think Geek. http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/oreilly/tshirts/63fc/ Until next time-- Marsee From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Thu Oct 23 12:04:08 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 Message-ID: <1066928648.c6246a00HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> STL Pocket Reference. Matt H. -----Original Message----- From: "Brandon Gohsman" To: "Perl Mongers" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:47:38 -0400 Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 Brandon Gohsman EchoBox Interactive O-418 Johnson St. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544 T 616.677.1334 C 616.443.8162 E brandon@echobox.com W http://www.echobox.com -----Original Message----- From: Marsee Henon [mailto:marsee@oreilly.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:45 PM To: Brandon@echobox.com Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 ================================================================ O'Reilly UG Program News--Just for User Group Leaders October 22, 2003 ================================================================ -Encourage your members to write book reviews -Do You Have a Tip, Suggestion, or Question to Share? -Stay Tuned for a New Banner Offer Next Week ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book Info ---------------------------------------------------------------- ***Review books are available Copies of our books are available for your members to review-- send me an email and please include the book order number on your request. Let me know if you need your book by a certain date. Allow at least four weeks for shipping. ***Please send copies of your book reviews Email me a copy of your newsletters or book review. For tips and suggestions on writing book reviews, go to: http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html ***Discount information Don't forget to remind your members about our 20% discount on O'Reilly books and conferences. Just use code DSUG. ***Group purchases with better discounts are available Please let me know if you are interested and I can put you in touch with our sales department. ---------------------------------------------------------------- General News ---------------------------------------------------------------- ***Encourage your members to write book reviews We love to have feedback on all of our titles. Book and product reviews make great web site and newsletter content. If you need some suggestions check out our handy dandy guide: http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html ***Do you have a tip, suggestion, or question to share with other user group leaders? Send me an email and we can post it. ***Stay Tuned for a New Banner Offer Next Week ================================================================ O'Reilly News for User Group Members October 22, 2003 ================================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book News ---------------------------------------------------------------- -PC Annoyances -STL Pocket Reference ---------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Events ---------------------------------------------------------------- -User Group Event at the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference -Tim O'Reilly, OOPSLA 2003, Anaheim, CA--Oct 26-30 -Rael Dornfest ("Google Hacks," "Mac OS X Hacks"), Portland Linux/Unix Group, Portland, OR--November 6 -ApacheCon, Las Vegas, NV--Nov 16-19 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Conferences ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Registration Is Open for ETech 2004--San Diego, CA -Last Week to Register for the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference ---------------------------------------------------------------- News ---------------------------------------------------------------- -All Software Should Be Network Aware -Two New Book Brochures Available Online -Open Source Goes to COMDEX -Most Indispensable Linux Books -OpenOffice Irritation -Upgrading a MySQL Application -The PHP Scalability Myth -Creating an Online Help System with JavaHelp and DocBook -Filtering HTTP Requests with .NET -Sizing Up Windows Server 2003 -Start Me Up: Writing and Understanding OS X StartupItems -I Dig Mac OS X ================================================ Book News ================================================ Did you know you can request a free book to review for your group? Ask your group leader for more information. For book review writing tips and suggestions, go to: http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html Don't forget, you can receive 20% off any O'Reilly book you purchase directly from O'Reilly. Just use code DSUG when ordering online or by phone 800-998-9938. http://www.oreilly.com/ ***Free ground shipping is available for online orders of at least $29.95 that go to a single U.S. address. This offer applies to U.S. delivery addresses in the 50 states and Puerto Rico. For more details, go to: http://www.oreilly.com/news/freeshipping_0703.html ***PC Annoyances Order Number: 5938 Don't give up on your PC yet; help is at hand. This easy-to-read, accessible book covers the waterfront of PC gripes and gremlins, with fixes for everything from Windows glitches to browsers that won't browse. These tips and tricks are served up in bite-size portions for quick reading and even quicker fixing. Plus, you get access to more than 100 utilities that will help you squash bugs, enhance your email, untangle system snarls, and much more. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcannoy/ A sample excerpt on "Email" is online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcannoy/chapter/index.html *Come meet "PC Annoyances" author Steve Bass at the upcoming APCUG Fall 2003 Conference in Las Vegas! ***STL Pocket Reference Order Number: 5563 Programmers familiar with the Standard Template Library (STL) need a small, lightweight memory aid. The STL encompasses containers, iterators, algorithms, and function objects, collectively representing one of the most important and widely used subsets of standard library functionality. "STL Pocket Reference" describes the functions, classes, and templates in the STL, and it is chock-full of information that you can take in at a glance, so you can get on with your work. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/stlpr/ A sample excerpt on "Containers" is online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/stlpr/chapter/index.html ================================================ Upcoming Events ================================================ ***For more events, please see: http://events.oreilly.com/ ***User Group members attending the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference-- Come meet up with Marsee Henon (O'Reilly User Group Coordinator) and Lorene Romero (Apple User Group Advisory Board Vendor Relation Coordinator and North Coast Mac Users Group Past President) on Tuesday, October 28 from 6:00pm to 7:30pm at the bar (no-host) in the lobby of the Westin Santa Clara. We can swap stories, ideas, or just hang out. And afterwards, we can attend the "Building Virginia Tech's G5 Supercluster" talk. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2003/view/e_sess/4824 The O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference is October 27-30, 2003 at the Westin Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA For more info or to register for this conference, go to: http://conferences.oreilly.com/macosxcon/ ***Tim O'Reilly, OOPSLA 2003, Anaheim, CA--Oct 26-30 Tim O'Reilly is a keynote speaker at the 18th annual ACM SIGPLAN Conference on Object Oriented Programming, Systems, Languages, and Applications. Anaheim Convention Center, Anaheim, CA. http://oopsla.acm.org/oopsla2003/files/index.html ***Rael Dornfest ("Google Hacks," "Mac OS X Hacks"), Portland Linux/Unix Group, Portland, OR--November 6 Author and editor Rael Dornfest will be speaking about O'Reilly's new "Hacks" book series.The meeting starts at 7:00pm at the Portland State University, Smith Memorial Center room 294/296, Portland, OR. http://www.pdxlinux.org/meeting/ ***ApacheCon, Las Vegas, NV--Nov 16-19 Authors Brian Aker ("Running Weblogs with Slash"), Stas Bekman ("Practical mod_perl"), Rich Bowen and Ken Coar ("Apache Cookbook"), Will Iverson ("Mac OS X for Java Geeks"), Rasmus Lerdorf ("Programming PHP), Doug Tidwell ("XSLT" and "Programming Web Services with SOAP"), and Adam Trachtenberg ("PHP Cookbook") are all speaking at this gathering. Alexis Park Resort Las Vegas, NV. http://www.apachecon.com/2003/US/index.html ================================================ Conference News ================================================ ***Registration Is Open for ETech 2004--San Diego, CA Gather with lead users, forward thinkers, and technology activists at O'Reilly's third annual Emerging Technology Conference to vet the projects and ideas that will radically alter not just the future of computing, but the way we live and work. ETech is slated for February 9-12, 2004 in San Diego, California. Take advantage of our Early Bird discount when you register before January 9, 2004. http://conferences.oreilly.com/etech/ User Group members who register before January 9, 2004 get a double discount. Use code DSUG when you register, and receive 20% off the "Early Bird" price. To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/28/register.html ***Last Week to Register for the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference October 27-30, 2003 Westin Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA http://conferences.oreilly.com/macosxcon/ To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2003/create/ord_mac03 ================================================ News From O'Reilly & Beyond ================================================ --------------------- General News --------------------- ***All Software Should Be Network Aware Apple's original Human Interface Guidelines laid out the company's vision for a set of consistent approaches for GUI applications. Now that we're moving into the era of "software above the level of a single device," we need something similar for network-aware applications. Here are some of the things Tim O'Reilly would like to see universally supported. http://tim.oreilly.com/p2p/netaware.csp ***Two New Book Brochures Available Online We have included these in the Graphics section of our user group page http://ug.oreilly.com/ *Sample Hacks (PDF) Test out hacks from our newest titles "Wireless Hacks," "Ebay Hacks," "Windows XP Hacks," and "TiVo Hacks." http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/ug_sample_hacks.pdf *Gifts for Geeks (PDF) Not sure what to give your geek for the holidays? We have a few suggestions. http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/Geek_Holiday.pdf --------------------- Open Source --------------------- ***Open Source Goes to COMDEX O'Reilly is working with COMDEX to organize an Open Source Innovation Area on the COMDEX exhibit floor. We've nominated 21 projects and we'd like you to help us select the six projects we'll send to the show. Contest ends October 31. Vote today. http://www.oreillynet.com/contest/comdex/ Here is a graphic promoting this contest if you would like to post it on your site: http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/comdex/ ***Most Indispensable Linux Books Over 7,500 readers visited the Linux Journal web site and voted on 28 categories in the 2003 Readers' Choice Awards. The number three pick for most indispensable Linux book is O'Reilly's "Running Linux." And the winner is "Linux in a Nutshell." http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7029 Running Linux, 4th Edition Order Number: 2726 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux4/ Linux in a Nutshell, 4th Edition Order Number: 4826 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxnut4/ ***OpenOffice Irritation Noel Davis looks at problems in OpenOffice, slocate, fetchmail, GDM, Tomcat, ircd, HPUX's dtprintinfo, and Openserver's Xsco. http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/10/20/insecurities.html ***Upgrading a MySQL Application Application upgrades aren't always easy. Throw in a database backend and a schema change, and you're in for a world of hurt--unless you've planned well. Russell Dyer explores techniques for taking the pain out of upgrading database-backed applications. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/10/16/mysql_app_upgrades.html --------------------- Java --------------------- ***The PHP Scalability Myth Java scales...but so does PHP. That's the argument Jack Herrington puts forth in comparing how each can be used to create web applications with modern architectures. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/php_scalability.html ***Creating an Online Help System with JavaHelp and DocBook JavaHelp offers a full-featured help system for Java applications, but creating and maintaining help content can be tricky. Austin King offers an alternative workflow, based on DocBook and XSL. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/javahelp_docbook.html --------------------- .NET --------------------- ***Filtering HTTP Requests with .NET ASP.NET has a number of extensibility points that developers can use. One such point is response filtering, accessible via the Filter property of the HttpResponse class. Ben Lowery shows you how to use HTTP filters in your own code. http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2003/10/20/httpfilter.html --------------------- Windows --------------------- ***Sizing Up Windows Server 2003 It's been almost six months since Windows Server 2003 was released. Microsoft touts it as being able to do things "faster, more securely, and at lower cost." Has it lived up to its promises? Mitch Tulloch, author of "Windows Server 2003 in a Nutshell," looks at whether and how Microsoft has delivered on these promises. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/10/21/sizingserver2003.html Windows Server 2003 in a Nutshell Order Number: 4044 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/winsvrian/index.html --------------------- Mac --------------------- ***Start Me Up: Writing and Understanding OS X StartupItems StartupItems are easy to set up and extremely flexible in managing the startup process. Andrew Anders shows how StartupItems fit into the OS X startup process, what you need to do to create a StartupItem, and an example of a StartupItem that will run the Tomcat Java servlet engine. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/10/21/startup.html ***I Dig Mac OS X With O'Reilly's Mac OS X Conference just around the corner, we're introducing a brand-new T-shirt depicting our trademark Mac OS X German Shepherd--just the thing to wear at the show. Not attending but you still dig Mac OS X? This is the tee for you. Check out all of O'Reilly's cool swag at Think Geek. http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/oreilly/tshirts/63fc/ Until next time-- Marsee From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Thu Oct 23 12:04:16 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 Message-ID: <1066928656.c6246a00HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> STL Pocket Reference. Matt H. -----Original Message----- From: "Brandon Gohsman" To: "Perl Mongers" Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:47:38 -0400 Subject: FW: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 Brandon Gohsman EchoBox Interactive O-418 Johnson St. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544 T 616.677.1334 C 616.443.8162 E brandon@echobox.com W http://www.echobox.com -----Original Message----- From: Marsee Henon [mailto:marsee@oreilly.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:45 PM To: Brandon@echobox.com Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, October 22 ================================================================ O'Reilly UG Program News--Just for User Group Leaders October 22, 2003 ================================================================ -Encourage your members to write book reviews -Do You Have a Tip, Suggestion, or Question to Share? -Stay Tuned for a New Banner Offer Next Week ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book Info ---------------------------------------------------------------- ***Review books are available Copies of our books are available for your members to review-- send me an email and please include the book order number on your request. 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Send me an email and we can post it. ***Stay Tuned for a New Banner Offer Next Week ================================================================ O'Reilly News for User Group Members October 22, 2003 ================================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Book News ---------------------------------------------------------------- -PC Annoyances -STL Pocket Reference ---------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Events ---------------------------------------------------------------- -User Group Event at the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference -Tim O'Reilly, OOPSLA 2003, Anaheim, CA--Oct 26-30 -Rael Dornfest ("Google Hacks," "Mac OS X Hacks"), Portland Linux/Unix Group, Portland, OR--November 6 -ApacheCon, Las Vegas, NV--Nov 16-19 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Conferences ---------------------------------------------------------------- -Registration Is Open for ETech 2004--San Diego, CA -Last Week to Register for the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference ---------------------------------------------------------------- News ---------------------------------------------------------------- -All Software Should Be Network Aware -Two New Book Brochures Available Online -Open Source Goes to COMDEX -Most Indispensable Linux Books -OpenOffice Irritation -Upgrading a MySQL Application -The PHP Scalability Myth -Creating an Online Help System with JavaHelp and DocBook -Filtering HTTP Requests with .NET -Sizing Up Windows Server 2003 -Start Me Up: Writing and Understanding OS X StartupItems -I Dig Mac OS X ================================================ Book News ================================================ Did you know you can request a free book to review for your group? Ask your group leader for more information. For book review writing tips and suggestions, go to: http://ug.oreilly.com/bookreviews.html Don't forget, you can receive 20% off any O'Reilly book you purchase directly from O'Reilly. Just use code DSUG when ordering online or by phone 800-998-9938. http://www.oreilly.com/ ***Free ground shipping is available for online orders of at least $29.95 that go to a single U.S. address. This offer applies to U.S. delivery addresses in the 50 states and Puerto Rico. For more details, go to: http://www.oreilly.com/news/freeshipping_0703.html ***PC Annoyances Order Number: 5938 Don't give up on your PC yet; help is at hand. This easy-to-read, accessible book covers the waterfront of PC gripes and gremlins, with fixes for everything from Windows glitches to browsers that won't browse. These tips and tricks are served up in bite-size portions for quick reading and even quicker fixing. Plus, you get access to more than 100 utilities that will help you squash bugs, enhance your email, untangle system snarls, and much more. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcannoy/ A sample excerpt on "Email" is online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/pcannoy/chapter/index.html *Come meet "PC Annoyances" author Steve Bass at the upcoming APCUG Fall 2003 Conference in Las Vegas! ***STL Pocket Reference Order Number: 5563 Programmers familiar with the Standard Template Library (STL) need a small, lightweight memory aid. The STL encompasses containers, iterators, algorithms, and function objects, collectively representing one of the most important and widely used subsets of standard library functionality. "STL Pocket Reference" describes the functions, classes, and templates in the STL, and it is chock-full of information that you can take in at a glance, so you can get on with your work. http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/stlpr/ A sample excerpt on "Containers" is online: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/stlpr/chapter/index.html ================================================ Upcoming Events ================================================ ***For more events, please see: http://events.oreilly.com/ ***User Group members attending the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference-- Come meet up with Marsee Henon (O'Reilly User Group Coordinator) and Lorene Romero (Apple User Group Advisory Board Vendor Relation Coordinator and North Coast Mac Users Group Past President) on Tuesday, October 28 from 6:00pm to 7:30pm at the bar (no-host) in the lobby of the Westin Santa Clara. We can swap stories, ideas, or just hang out. And afterwards, we can attend the "Building Virginia Tech's G5 Supercluster" talk. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2003/view/e_sess/4824 The O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference is October 27-30, 2003 at the Westin Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA For more info or to register for this conference, go to: http://conferences.oreilly.com/macosxcon/ ***Tim O'Reilly, OOPSLA 2003, Anaheim, CA--Oct 26-30 Tim O'Reilly is a keynote speaker at the 18th annual ACM SIGPLAN Conference on Object Oriented Programming, Systems, Languages, and Applications. Anaheim Convention Center, Anaheim, CA. http://oopsla.acm.org/oopsla2003/files/index.html ***Rael Dornfest ("Google Hacks," "Mac OS X Hacks"), Portland Linux/Unix Group, Portland, OR--November 6 Author and editor Rael Dornfest will be speaking about O'Reilly's new "Hacks" book series.The meeting starts at 7:00pm at the Portland State University, Smith Memorial Center room 294/296, Portland, OR. http://www.pdxlinux.org/meeting/ ***ApacheCon, Las Vegas, NV--Nov 16-19 Authors Brian Aker ("Running Weblogs with Slash"), Stas Bekman ("Practical mod_perl"), Rich Bowen and Ken Coar ("Apache Cookbook"), Will Iverson ("Mac OS X for Java Geeks"), Rasmus Lerdorf ("Programming PHP), Doug Tidwell ("XSLT" and "Programming Web Services with SOAP"), and Adam Trachtenberg ("PHP Cookbook") are all speaking at this gathering. Alexis Park Resort Las Vegas, NV. http://www.apachecon.com/2003/US/index.html ================================================ Conference News ================================================ ***Registration Is Open for ETech 2004--San Diego, CA Gather with lead users, forward thinkers, and technology activists at O'Reilly's third annual Emerging Technology Conference to vet the projects and ideas that will radically alter not just the future of computing, but the way we live and work. ETech is slated for February 9-12, 2004 in San Diego, California. Take advantage of our Early Bird discount when you register before January 9, 2004. http://conferences.oreilly.com/etech/ User Group members who register before January 9, 2004 get a double discount. Use code DSUG when you register, and receive 20% off the "Early Bird" price. To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/28/register.html ***Last Week to Register for the O'Reilly Mac OS X Conference October 27-30, 2003 Westin Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA http://conferences.oreilly.com/macosxcon/ To register for the conference, go to: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/macosx2003/create/ord_mac03 ================================================ News From O'Reilly & Beyond ================================================ --------------------- General News --------------------- ***All Software Should Be Network Aware Apple's original Human Interface Guidelines laid out the company's vision for a set of consistent approaches for GUI applications. Now that we're moving into the era of "software above the level of a single device," we need something similar for network-aware applications. Here are some of the things Tim O'Reilly would like to see universally supported. http://tim.oreilly.com/p2p/netaware.csp ***Two New Book Brochures Available Online We have included these in the Graphics section of our user group page http://ug.oreilly.com/ *Sample Hacks (PDF) Test out hacks from our newest titles "Wireless Hacks," "Ebay Hacks," "Windows XP Hacks," and "TiVo Hacks." http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/ug_sample_hacks.pdf *Gifts for Geeks (PDF) Not sure what to give your geek for the holidays? We have a few suggestions. http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/Geek_Holiday.pdf --------------------- Open Source --------------------- ***Open Source Goes to COMDEX O'Reilly is working with COMDEX to organize an Open Source Innovation Area on the COMDEX exhibit floor. We've nominated 21 projects and we'd like you to help us select the six projects we'll send to the show. Contest ends October 31. Vote today. http://www.oreillynet.com/contest/comdex/ Here is a graphic promoting this contest if you would like to post it on your site: http://ug.oreilly.com/banners/comdex/ ***Most Indispensable Linux Books Over 7,500 readers visited the Linux Journal web site and voted on 28 categories in the 2003 Readers' Choice Awards. The number three pick for most indispensable Linux book is O'Reilly's "Running Linux." And the winner is "Linux in a Nutshell." http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7029 Running Linux, 4th Edition Order Number: 2726 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/runux4/ Linux in a Nutshell, 4th Edition Order Number: 4826 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxnut4/ ***OpenOffice Irritation Noel Davis looks at problems in OpenOffice, slocate, fetchmail, GDM, Tomcat, ircd, HPUX's dtprintinfo, and Openserver's Xsco. http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/10/20/insecurities.html ***Upgrading a MySQL Application Application upgrades aren't always easy. Throw in a database backend and a schema change, and you're in for a world of hurt--unless you've planned well. Russell Dyer explores techniques for taking the pain out of upgrading database-backed applications. http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/10/16/mysql_app_upgrades.html --------------------- Java --------------------- ***The PHP Scalability Myth Java scales...but so does PHP. That's the argument Jack Herrington puts forth in comparing how each can be used to create web applications with modern architectures. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/php_scalability.html ***Creating an Online Help System with JavaHelp and DocBook JavaHelp offers a full-featured help system for Java applications, but creating and maintaining help content can be tricky. Austin King offers an alternative workflow, based on DocBook and XSL. http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/10/15/javahelp_docbook.html --------------------- .NET --------------------- ***Filtering HTTP Requests with .NET ASP.NET has a number of extensibility points that developers can use. One such point is response filtering, accessible via the Filter property of the HttpResponse class. Ben Lowery shows you how to use HTTP filters in your own code. http://www.ondotnet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2003/10/20/httpfilter.html --------------------- Windows --------------------- ***Sizing Up Windows Server 2003 It's been almost six months since Windows Server 2003 was released. Microsoft touts it as being able to do things "faster, more securely, and at lower cost." Has it lived up to its promises? Mitch Tulloch, author of "Windows Server 2003 in a Nutshell," looks at whether and how Microsoft has delivered on these promises. http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2003/10/21/sizingserver2003.html Windows Server 2003 in a Nutshell Order Number: 4044 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/winsvrian/index.html --------------------- Mac --------------------- ***Start Me Up: Writing and Understanding OS X StartupItems StartupItems are easy to set up and extremely flexible in managing the startup process. Andrew Anders shows how StartupItems fit into the OS X startup process, what you need to do to create a StartupItem, and an example of a StartupItem that will run the Tomcat Java servlet engine. http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2003/10/21/startup.html ***I Dig Mac OS X With O'Reilly's Mac OS X Conference just around the corner, we're introducing a brand-new T-shirt depicting our trademark Mac OS X German Shepherd--just the thing to wear at the show. Not attending but you still dig Mac OS X? This is the tee for you. Check out all of O'Reilly's cool swag at Think Geek. http://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/oreilly/tshirts/63fc/ Until next time-- Marsee From Tessa.Welsh at priority-health.com Wed Oct 29 13:45:09 2003 From: Tessa.Welsh at priority-health.com (Tessa.Welsh@priority-health.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Agenda for the October 31 Perl Mongers Meeting Message-ID: Grand Rapids Perl Mongers Date : 10/31/2003 Time : 12:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. Place : Priority Health, Classroom 1 Agenda Points 1 Welcome Bill Day 2 Nominations & Election of Secretary Bill Day 3 YAPC::NA::2005 Matt Heusser 4 Presentation: Perl 6 Matt Diephouse 5 Vision & Stuff Matt Heusser 6 Adjourn Bill Day Further Information Need Directions to the meeting? Priority Health is located at 1239 East Beltline, NE in Grand Rapids. You will need to check in at the main reception desk. ** ** ** PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL ** ** ** This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please delete the email and immediately notify the sender via the email return address or mailto:postmaster@priority-health.com. Thank you. From Tessa.Welsh at priority-health.com Thu Oct 30 12:11:49 2003 From: Tessa.Welsh at priority-health.com (Tessa.Welsh@priority-health.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Agenda for the October 31 Perl Mongers Meeting Message-ID: note: the meeting time has changed to 12:00 p.m. to 1 p.m. ... i guess 13 hours is too long for us to meet. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tessa Welsh > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:45 PM > To: 'grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > Subject: Agenda for the October 31 Perl Mongers Meeting > > Grand Rapids Perl Mongers > > Date : 10/31/2003 > Time : 12:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. > Place : Priority Health, Classroom 1 > Agenda Points > 1 Welcome Bill Day > 2 Nominations & Election of Secretary Bill Day > 3 YAPC::NA::2005 Matt Heusser > 4 Presentation: Perl 6 Matt Diephouse > 5 Vision & Stuff Matt Heusser > 6 Adjourn Bill Day > > Further Information > Need Directions to the meeting? > Priority Health is located at 1239 East Beltline, NE in Grand Rapids. You will need to check in at the main reception desk. ** ** ** PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL ** ** ** This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please delete the email and immediately notify the sender via the email return address or mailto:postmaster@priority-health.com. Thank you. From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Thu Oct 30 14:08:09 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: Agenda for the October 31 Perl Mongers Meeting Message-ID: <1067544489.a4bfeb80HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> uhh ... don't we usually meet at 11:30 AM? Matt H. -----Original Message----- From: To: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:11:49 -0500 Subject: RE: Agenda for the October 31 Perl Mongers Meeting note: the meeting time has changed to 12:00 p.m. to 1 p.m. ... i guess 13 hours is too long for us to meet. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tessa Welsh > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 2:45 PM > To: 'grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' > Subject: Agenda for the October 31 Perl Mongers Meeting > > Grand Rapids Perl Mongers > > Date : 10/31/2003 > Time : 12:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. > Place : Priority Health, Classroom 1 > Agenda Points > 1 Welcome Bill Day > 2 Nominations & Election of Secretary Bill Day > 3 YAPC::NA::2005 Matt Heusser > 4 Presentation: Perl 6 Matt Diephouse > 5 Vision & Stuff Matt Heusser > 6 Adjourn Bill Day > > Further Information > Need Directions to the meeting? > Priority Health is located at 1239 East Beltline, NE in Grand Rapids. You will need to check in at the main reception desk. ** ** ** PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL ** ** ** This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please delete the email and immediately notify the sender via the email return address or mailto:postmaster@priority-health.com. Thank you. From HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu Fri Oct 31 06:38:37 2003 From: HEUSSERM at student.gvsu.edu (Matthew R. Heusser) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: GR.PM meeting times Message-ID: <1067603917.8203b440HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu> I finally got it after re-reading tessa's mail for the 3rd time. The meeting today is 12 NOON to 1 PM. Wow. Sorry. Next time, maybe we can just &ParseDate the meeeting and let us UnixDate it ourselves ... Matt H. From Tessa.Welsh at priority-health.com Fri Oct 31 08:14:23 2003 From: Tessa.Welsh at priority-health.com (Tessa.Welsh@priority-health.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:33 2004 Subject: GR.PM meeting times Message-ID: ** ** ** PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL ** ** ** This email transmission contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited and may be a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this message to an intended recipient, please delete the email and immediately notify the sender via the email return address or mailto:postmaster@priority-health.com. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- Keith Sederholm has offered to pick up lunch at the Golden Wok for us ... email him at keith.sederholm@priority-health.com by 10:30 today -----Original Message----- From: Matthew R. Heusser [mailto:HEUSSERM@student.gvsu.edu] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:39 AM To: Tessa Welsh Cc: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: GR.PM meeting times I finally got it after re-reading tessa's mail for the 3rd time. The meeting today is 12 NOON to 1 PM. Wow. Sorry. Next time, maybe we can just &ParseDate the meeeting and let us UnixDate it ourselves ... Matt H.