From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Mon Jul 9 09:28:18 2001 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:14 2004 Subject: Lookin' ..? Message-ID: <200107091435.f69EZ3w02405@gocho.pm.org> We've got an entry-level opening in our Information Development group. The pay is pretty good (for entry level), and right now, they're pretty much running AWK scripts with a bit of C++ and perl here and there. Anybody who could do the InfoDev work plus automate them with some perl would be a hero ... let me know if'n your interested, Matt H. From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Mon Jul 9 09:30:09 2001 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:14 2004 Subject: Lookin' ..? Message-ID: <200107091437.f69EbNw02419@gocho.pm.org> > The pay is pretty good (for entry level), and right now, they're pretty much > BTW: Fortune 500, and the benefits/work environment/pension that that implies as well. (Except that you'll never have to wear a tie. Ever. Jeans on Friday, of course.) Matt H. From sdpoling at home.com Mon Jul 9 09:52:03 2001 From: sdpoling at home.com (Steve D Poling) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:14 2004 Subject: Lookin' ..? In-Reply-To: <200107091437.f69EbNw02419@gocho.pm.org> Message-ID: As a former MGH employee, I can concur that the pay and bennies are good. Other former MGH employees will concur that the New York/New Jersey politics is a pain. Management can be irrational, driven by fad and hype. From what I can tell, the worst villains have left MGH. When I left MGH for Rapist(an Systems) I likened the transition to leaving the communists to work for the fascists. i'm now more inclined to call Rapist a bunch of Nazis, and MGH socialist. I might return to MGH, but I'll never return to Rapist. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org > [mailto:owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of > matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:30 AM > To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Lookin' ..? > > > The pay is pretty good (for entry level), and right now, > they're pretty much > > > > BTW: > > Fortune 500, and the benefits/work environment/pension that that > implies as > well. > > (Except that you'll never have to wear a tie. Ever. Jeans on Friday, of > course.) > > > > Matt H. > > > > > > > > > From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Sat Jul 14 00:19:47 2001 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:14 2004 Subject: Lookin' ..? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010714051947.67422.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> I'm always interested in hearing people give "the straight scoop" on what goes on in companies. (Hey, is anyone aware of a web site/forum dedicated to this - but not quite so negative-biased/it's-all-over-'cept-the-liquidation-sale as a site like fsckedcompany.com (=~ s/s/u/)?) Of course, it seems you often hear more of the negatives than the positives, probably because the negatives can make for more interesting discussion. : ) Regardless, we've all experienced and heard enough to realize that virtually no organization manages to avoid suboptimal, sub-par, irrational, dysfunctional, and even Dilbertesque behavior entirely. Is anyone aware of any good writings that present sort of an anthropological analysis of what goes on inside companies? I guess I'm looking for something that: - is insightful - maybe attempts to explain the behavior of an organization in terms of the incentives given to the individuals within the organization. (Perhaps undesirable organizational behavior can partly be traced back to the incentive structure. Or is it more a function of the individuals themselves?) - addresses how & why the company as a whole can be "greater than the sum of its parts" or "less than the sum of its parts". - takes a stab at identifying the key traits of intelligent, successful groups. I don't think I'm looking for pop, biz-exec type lit, but maybe I am (haven't really tried it). Maybe what I'm looking for isn't about businesses in particular, but about groups of people in general - I dunno. Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome. +Joel --- Steve D Poling wrote: > As a former MGH employee, I can concur that the pay and bennies are > good. > Other former MGH employees will concur that the New York/New Jersey > politics > is a pain. Management can be irrational, driven by fad and hype. From > what I > can tell, the worst villains have left MGH. > > When I left MGH for Rapist(an Systems) I likened the transition to > leaving > the communists to work for the fascists. i'm now more inclined to > call > Rapist a bunch of Nazis, and MGH socialist. I might return to MGH, > but I'll > never return to Rapist. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org > > [mailto:owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org]On Behalf Of > > matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:30 AM > > To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > > Subject: Lookin' ..? > > > > > The pay is pretty good (for entry level), and right now, > > they're pretty much > > > > > > > BTW: > > > > Fortune 500, and the benefits/work environment/pension that that > > implies as > > well. > > > > (Except that you'll never have to wear a tie. Ever. Jeans on > Friday, of > > course.) > > > > Matt H. ===== Perl mongers do it more than one way. (TMTOWTDI) http://grand-rapids.pm.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com Mon Jul 16 06:41:46 2001 From: matthew_heusser at mcgraw-hill.com (matthew_heusser@mcgraw-hill.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:14 2004 Subject: Companies Message-ID: <200107161148.f6GBmrS05147@gocho.pm.org> >Is anyone aware of any good writings that present sort of an >anthropological analysis of what goes on inside companies? I sounds to me like Joel is talking about Organizational Behavior. There is a novel about project management I've been itching to read called Deadline: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932633390/qid=981654943/sr=1-1/ref=sc_b_ 1/107-2215417-1175707 Otherwise, I'm going to wax philosophic about management below. If you read dilbert regularly, you can probably skip it ... For the $ofties: The Microsoft Edge by Julue Bick All I really need to Know in Business I learned at Microsoft by Julie Bick Show-Stopper: The Breakneck race to create Windows NT by G. Pascal Zachary There is also a great book by the Harvard Business Review called "On Leadership." Personally, I think one problem of modern companies is that we over-manage and under-lead. Managers write budgets, set goals, define products and allocate resources to accomplish tasks. Leaders inspire people by creating a shared vision. Leaders get people to rally round the flag, instead of rallying round the pay check. Managers count on authority to direct resources. Leaders get things done, and the best leaders don't need a title or piece of paper to do it. bleh. That leads me to #2, which is the labor/management credibility gap. For a good explanation of that, just watch any good war movie and see the way the senior NCO treats the "butter bar" 2nd Lieutenant. regards, Matt H.