From brandon at squareonedesign.com Wed Feb 2 15:00:37 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: Call for Papers for Perl Conference 4.0 Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:55 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: Call for Papers for Perl Conference 4.0 CALL FOR PAPERS for the PERL CONFERENCE 4.0 Want to make all those endless nights hacking away at Perl finally pay off? This is your chance to share those jewels of code with your peers! Submit your proposal for talks, tutorials and refereed papers for The Perl Conference 4.0 Part of The O'Reilly Open Source Software Convention July 17-20, 2000 in Monterey, California ******************************************************************** Last year's event attracted over 1700 attendees, with an audience hungry for information and eager to hear about the latest developments and trends in the Open Source world. This time, it could be YOUR chance to enlighten, and maybe even enrapture, a room full of your peers with your latest innovation or foray into Perl. But not only that: it's also an excellent opportunity for you to rub shoulders with the heroes, founders and demi-gods of the Open Source community - plus have a ton of fun! Here are the topics: * Perl * Linux * Apache * Python * Sendmail * Open Source Business Strategies * Tcl/Tk * Other open source technologies This year, we are focusing on Open Source technologies enabling secure, high-volume e-commerce. Technical talks in any of the above tracks that zoom in on e-commerce will be particularly welcomed! All submissions should be directed to: oscon00proposals@oreilly.com For detailed information on submitting a proposal, please see: http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon2000/call.html If you have any questions about submitting a proposal, please contact Joseph McIntyre at joseph@oreilly.com Need some additional time to put together that mind blasting proposal that is going to knock the socks off your fellow hacker's feet? You got it! We are extending the original submission deadline to Feb. 18, 2000. Don't miss it. Posted in the following newsgroups: 1/31 alt.os.linux alt.os.linux.caldera alt.os.linux.slackware alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions comp.os.linux.advocacy comp.os.linux.announce comp.os.linux.development.apps 2/1 comp.os.linux.development.system comp.os.linux.hardware comp.os.linux.m68k comp.os.linux.misc comp.os.linux.networking comp.os.linux.setup comp.os.linux.x de.comp.os.linux comp.lang.python comp.lang.python.announce comp.lang.tcl comp.lang.tcl.announce comp.mail.sendmail comp.mail.smail comp.graphics.apps.gnuplot de.comp.gnu gnu.g++.help gnu.gcc gnu.gcc.help gnu.misc.discuss From brandon at squareonedesign.com Wed Feb 2 17:59:47 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: DOA Object Model: The Definitive Reference Message-ID: Anyone interested in DOA Object Model: The definitive Reverence? -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:10 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: DOA Object Model: The Definitive Reference FOR REVIEW COPY CONTACT: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext. 339 deniseo@oreilly.com http://www.oreilly.com Programming The Access Object Models Using VBA and VBScript Sebastopol, CA-Each iteration of Windows has improved the techniques used for transferring data among its applications. The leading technique is called Automation, which allows you to work directly with objects in an application's interface using their object models. But if you want to write code in a programming language, such as Visual Basic, in order to work with the apps that support Automation, you must understand the inner workings of an application's object model-or in the case of Microsoft's Access, it's two object models. "When Access 2000 was released, the number of major objects in the Access object model had increased from 6 to 21. And because of the change in Help for Office 2000, it is now very difficult to get help on DAO objects from Access, especially from code modules where you need it most,"" says Helen Feddema, author of the just-released book, DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference (O'Reilly $34.95). "The DAO Object Model is (and will be for some time) the primary tool for working with data stored in Access databases." In many respects, Microsoft has made Automation the centerpiece of its vision for application development. An understanding of the object models is essential for developers who work with data in Access tables, or who want to manipulate components of the Access interface from other Office apps. Feddema's new book details the two Access object models, with code samples to use in VBA and/or VBScript. It will be *the* reference guide VB developers will reach for when working with data in Access tables or when manipulating components of the Access interface from Access, Outlook, Word, and Excel. DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference includes a CD-ROM that contains "Object Model Browser"-a powerful hierarchal object browser that makes it easy to identify where an object fits in the object model so that you can easily navigate to and from it. "Object Model Browser" will also allow you to determine which of the object's properties and methods return to an object of a particular type and which objects are externally creatable. This indispensable reference, combined with this invaluable browser will enormously enhance your productivity. For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, index, author bio, and samples, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progacdao/ For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565924355.jpg # # # DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference By Helen Feddema 1st Edition January 2000 (US) 1-56592-435-5, 400 pages, $34.95 (US$) Includes CD-ROM order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000202/525c9564/attachment.htm From brandon at squareonedesign.com Thu Feb 3 12:46:24 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Lending Library Message-ID: Greetings everyone, As many of you have probably already noticed, there are a lot of books floating around and no one person really knows where they all are right now. So, I have concocted a scheme for figuring it all out (then I?ll have to maintain it but that?s another story). What I am asking everyone on the list to do is to post the books that they currently have (title and author) to the list. If you have no books, please reply anyway and simply say ?none?. From that, I am going to build a little database and then maintain it with evangelical vigor. And, somehow, reconcile the database after every meeting with Ed. The preferred deadline for doing this is before our next meeting so that we will have the information available to anyone looking for a particular book. This may sound a bit anal-retentive, but it is simply so that I can answer questions about the lending library. I?m not really concerned with who has what or how long (the less books in my box, the happier my back is). But right now when someone asks me about a book, I look in my box and say, ?yes I have it? or ?I have no idea?, which makes me a pretty lame librarian. So this seemed like a plausible solution. Thanks, Brandon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wish I'd thought of that! I don't know if it was intentional, but I think DOA (Dead On Arrival) is a great alternative to DAO (Data Access Object). Or if you use OLE DB, I suppose that could be OLE Debris. : ) Now I've one more MS-caustic expression in my arsenal. Other's I like to use occasionally include: Micros~1, CaptiveX, LookOut!, etc. +Joel Brandon Gohsman wrote: Anyone interested in DOA Object Model: The definitive Reverence? -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:10 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: DOA Object Model: The Definitive Reference FOR REVIEW COPY CONTACT: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext. 339 deniseo@oreilly.com http://www.oreilly.com Programming The Access Object Models Using VBA and vb-script Sebastopol, CA-Each iteration of Windows has improved the techniques used for transferring data among its applications. The leading technique is called Automation, which allows you to work directly with objects in an application's interface using their object models. But if you want to write code in a programming language, such as Visual Basic, in order to work with the apps that support Automation, you must understand the inner workings of an application's object model-or in the case of Microsoft's Access, it's two object models. "When Access 2000 was released, the number of major objects in the Access object model had increased from 6 to 21. And because of the change in Help for Office 2000, it is now very difficult to get help on DAO objects from Access, especially from code modules where you need it most,"" says Helen Feddema, author of the just-released book, DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference (O'Reilly $34.95). "The DAO Object Model is (and will be for some time) the primary tool for working with data stored in Access databases." In many respects, Microsoft has made Automation the centerpiece of its vision for application development. An understanding of the object models is essential for developers who work with data in Access tables, or who want to manipulate components of the Access interface from other Office apps. Feddema's new book details the two Access object models, with code samples to use in VBA and/or vb-script. It will be *the* reference guide VB developers will reach for when working with data in Access tables or when manipulating components of the Access interface from Access, Outlook, Word, and Excel. DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference includes a CD-ROM that contains "Object Model Browser"-a powerful hierarchal object browser that makes it easy to identify where an object fits in the object model so that you can easily navigate to and from it. "Object Model Browser" will also allow you to determine which of the object's properties and methods return to an object of a particular type and which objects are externally creatable. This indispensable reference, combined with this invaluable browser will enormously enhance your productivity. For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, index, author bio, and samples, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progacdao/ For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565924355.jpg # # # DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference By Helen Feddema 1st Edition January 2000 (US) 1-56592-435-5, 400 pages, $34.95 (US$) Includes CD-ROM order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com ____________________________________________________________________ | AdStream programs expose you to a stream of banner ads while | | you're connected to the Internet. In exchange for a smidgen of | | your attention they pay you cash. You can easily earn enough to | | pay your monthly ISP bill. Compare the AdStream programs at: | | http://adstreaminfo.hypermart.net/ | --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000203/04b2cf15/attachment.htm From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Thu Feb 3 15:07:21 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: DOA Object Model: The Definitive Reference Message-ID: <20000203210721.19820.qmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com> Now I feel silly. I should have noticed "The Definitive Reverence" (probably has something to do with not eating lunch). Good one Brandon. Brandon Gohsman wrote: Anyone interested in DOA Object Model: The definitive Reverence? -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:10 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: DOA Object Model: The Definitive Reference FOR REVIEW COPY CONTACT: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext. 339 deniseo@oreilly.com http://www.oreilly.com Programming The Access Object Models Using VBA and vb-script Sebastopol, CA-Each iteration of Windows has improved the techniques used for transferring data among its applications. The leading technique is called Automation, which allows you to work directly with objects in an application's interface using their object models. But if you want to write code in a programming language, such as Visual Basic, in order to work with the apps that support Automation, you must understand the inner workings of an application's object model-or in the case of Microsoft's Access, it's two object models. "When Access 2000 was released, the number of major objects in the Access object model had increased from 6 to 21. And because of the change in Help for Office 2000, it is now very difficult to get help on DAO objects from Access, especially from code modules where you need it most,"" says Helen Feddema, author of the just-released book, DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference (O'Reilly $34.95). "The DAO Object Model is (and will be for some time) the primary tool for working with data stored in Access databases." In many respects, Microsoft has made Automation the centerpiece of its vision for application development. An understanding of the object models is essential for developers who work with data in Access tables, or who want to manipulate components of the Access interface from other Office apps. Feddema's new book details the two Access object models, with code samples to use in VBA and/or vb-script. It will be *the* reference guide VB developers will reach for when working with data in Access tables or when manipulating components of the Access interface from Access, Outlook, Word, and Excel. DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference includes a CD-ROM that contains "Object Model Browser"-a powerful hierarchal object browser that makes it easy to identify where an object fits in the object model so that you can easily navigate to and from it. "Object Model Browser" will also allow you to determine which of the object's properties and methods return to an object of a particular type and which objects are externally creatable. This indispensable reference, combined with this invaluable browser will enormously enhance your productivity. For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, index, author bio, and samples, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progacdao/ For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565924355.jpg # # # DAO Object Model: The Definitive Reference By Helen Feddema 1st Edition January 2000 (US) 1-56592-435-5, 400 pages, $34.95 (US$) Includes CD-ROM order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com ____________________________________________________________________ | AdStream programs expose you to a stream of banner ads while | | you're connected to the Internet. In exchange for a smidgen of | | your attention they pay you cash. You can easily earn enough to | | pay your monthly ISP bill. Compare the AdStream programs at: | | http://adstreaminfo.hypermart.net/ | --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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From: Denise Olliffe Subject: Managing Windows NT Logons Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 16:07:33 -0800 (PST) Size: 3480 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000205/519c8b10/attachment.eml From Rick.Siner at priority-health.com Mon Feb 7 07:45:09 2000 From: Rick.Siner at priority-health.com (Siner, Rick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Lending Library Message-ID: <83254446C33AD311B925000092A767E5016AC994@yap.internal.priority-health.com> None :-) -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Gohsman [mailto:brandon@squareonedesign.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 1:46 PM To: Perl Mongers Subject: Lending Library Greetings everyone, As many of you have probably already noticed, there are a lot of books floating around and no one person really knows where they all are right now. So, I have concocted a scheme for figuring it all out (then I'll have to maintain it but that's another story). What I am asking everyone on the list to do is to post the books that they currently have (title and author) to the list. If you have no books, please reply anyway and simply say "none". From that, I am going to build a little database and then maintain it with evangelical vigor. And, somehow, reconcile the database after every meeting with Ed. The preferred deadline for doing this is before our next meeting so that we will have the information available to anyone looking for a particular book. This may sound a bit anal-retentive, but it is simply so that I can answer questions about the lending library. I'm not really concerned with who has what or how long (the less books in my box, the happier my back is). But right now when someone asks me about a book, I look in my box and say, "yes I have it" or "I have no idea", which makes me a pretty lame librarian. So this seemed like a plausible solution. Thanks, Brandon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000207/2d9dd72a/attachment.htm From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 17:12:21 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Fwd: Contract Work Message-ID: <20000213231221.4132.qmail@web305.mail.yahoo.com> In case you're interested... Abha Mallya wrote: Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 11:17:30 -0500 From: Abha Mallya To: joelmeulenberg@yahoo.com Subject: Posting to Mailing List Hi Joel, I am with a software consulting foirm in Detroit. I have posted job openings in some other Perl User groups in the past. I wonder if your group also permits posting of job opportunities for the benefit of programmers and developers subscribing to your group. If it is permitted , I would request you to bring the following to the notice of your group members. Immediate Contract openings(6+ months) in NJ for web developers with Perl and CGI. Interested professionals may contact the undersigned with their resume in Word format and their contact information.Compensation DOE. Abha Mallya Information Technology Intellectuald Corporation 248-738-4831 e-mail: Abha@itintellectuals.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000213/9cea76f1/attachment.htm From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 17:36:01 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Fwd: Non-member submission from [Nguyen Manh Tho ] Message-ID: <20000213233601.27532.qmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> Hehe. Well it looks like this assistant lecturer in Hochiminh City found Jeff Williams's socket presentation on our web site and has additional questions. Anyone willing to help him out? Judging by the nature of his questions (i.e.- Your example sends text via UDP, but can I send binary data? And will the order of the fields get rearranged?) he may need help beyond just the initial questions he has asked... owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org wrote: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:24:11 -0500 (EST) From: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org To: owner-grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org Subject: BOUNCE grand-rapids-pm-list@pm.org: Non-member submission from [Nguyen Manh Tho ] >From joelm@bigfoot.com Fri Feb 11 23:24:09 2000 Received: from web1602.mail.yahoo.com (web1602.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.202]) by happyfunball.pm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA29078 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6781 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 2000 04:29:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000212042943.6780.qmail@web1602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.167.121.197] by web1602.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:29:43 PST Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:29:43 -0800 (PST) From: Nguyen Manh Tho Subject: The socket programming in Perl To: grand-rapids-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Cc: nmtho@dit.hcmut.edu.vn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Sirs and Madams, I am Nguyen Manh Tho, assistant lecturer, Computer Science Department of Hochiminh City University of Technology, Vietnam. I am very new in Perl and need more on your help in using Perl. I need to write a scoket program that send and receive data betwwen client and server using UDP protocol. The data I have to transfer is RADIUS frame format structure which is binary. I also refference the demo at hhtp://grand-rapids.pm.org/resources/sockets/sockets.html but they just support transfer the text message. I wonder if perl is now supporting transfer bibary or structures through socket or not, if yes, how to inmplement and will it reserve the order of the fields in frame because it's very important. Thank you very much ahead for all your reply. I am looking forward for your helps. Please answer me to 2 address below: nmtho@dit.hcmut.edu.vn manhtho@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000213/fca9a416/attachment.htm From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Sun Feb 13 18:15:37 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Gurusamy Sarathy's Fix of the Perl Problem I Encountered Message-ID: <20000214001537.16664.qmail@web304.mail.yahoo.com> At our last meeting I mentioned how the problem I'd encountered regarding lexical var's being erroneously cleared out by Perl before entering a continue block of code had been fixed. (As you may remember I sent a message to the list asking "Anyone Know Why Perl Does This?".) I also mentioned that Gurusamy Sarathy (formerly of the Ann Arbor Perl Mongers) managed to fix the problem I'd encountered while leaving another known bug intact. During the meeting I couldn't remember the example given. Some of you seemed interested, so I've included it below (at the bottom). This was forwarded to me by Jeff Klein, who actually reported the bug I'd encountered to perlbug. Now that I think about, this is a small example of open source "parallelized debugging" in action. One of the concepts Eric S. Raymond has emphasized in his papers like "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" is that "debugging is parallelizable" and open source projects benefit because of it. Another one of ESR's comments I recall is that often the person who finds a bug isn't able to fix it themselves, but that doesn't matter as long as they can route the problem to someone who can. In this particular case, I ran into the bug and asked my local Perl associates about it (in early January). One member of the local group, Jeff Klein, researched the problem (looking at the Perl source code, etc.) and determined that it merited the attention of perlbug. Jeff sent a message to perlbug in mid-January. By January 23rd, the bug had been fixed in the development version of Perl. Truth be told, I was going to send it to perlbug but was hoping I might first be able to find the bug in the Perl source code and propose a fix. Well, after reviewing some information on Perl internals and wading through the source, it's clear this would have been very challenging for me. In the past I've sent patches to the authors of modules like SQL::Statement, IO::Tty, DBD::Oracle, and Graph, but this bug in Perl itself would have required much more learning before I could have been confident in making a suggestion. I guess the point of all this is that one doesn't have to be able to fix the bug in order to help an open source project. In fact, in this case, my attempt to grok and fix the bug just slowed down the process. Thanks again for your help Jeff. Change 4848 by gsar@auger on 2000/01/23 06:43:51 fix scope cleanup when next jumps to a continue block; this is rather in the nature of a kludge; it doesn't fix the longstanding bug that makes C print "7" instead of "1") --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000213/e688b1b0/attachment.htm From steve at bbdltd.com Mon Feb 14 08:49:43 2000 From: steve at bbdltd.com (Steve Johnson) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: [ ANNOUNCE ] - ActivePerl 5.6 Beta 1 Message-ID: Pardon the possible cross post, but this is good news. Note the availability of fork() in the Windows platform. Cool. > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-perl-win32-announce-15155@lyris.ActiveState.com > [mailto:bounce-perl-win32-announce-15155@lyris.ActiveState.com]On Behalf > Of Michael Smith > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 7:39 PM > To: Perl-Win32-Announce Mailing List > Subject: [ ANNOUNCE ] - ActivePerl 5.6 Beta 1 > > > Greetings All, > > ActiveState is pleased to announce the first beta of ActivePerl 5.6. > > ActivePerl, including PPM, now supports the following platforms: > > - Windows > - Linux > - Solaris > > This beta release includes all the major features that have been > discussed for Perl 5.6. > > - Globalization and Unicode > - Concurrent Interpreters > - granularity of warnings > - New regex construct > - Lvalue subroutines > - Subroutine attributes > - 64-bit platforms > - Large File Systems > - Additional documentation and tutorials. > > The following additional new features are available on the Windows > platform: > > - Unicode system calls > - Windows Installer > - CPAN extensions > - fork() > > For further information see the release notes or readme file. > > ActiveState will also shortly make available beta versions of the > upcoming new releases of the Perl Dev Kit and PerlEx, which will > take advantage of the new features in ActivePerl 5.6. > > ActiveState cautions that the ActivePerl 5.6 beta release may contain > certain incomplete features and known bugs. It is made available > for testing purposes only. > > Download a copy of the ActivePerl Beta from: > > "http://www.ActiveState.com/cgibin/ActivePerl/download.pl" > > You can submit bug reports at: > > "http://bugs.ActiveState.com/ActivePerl" > > You can send feedback on the new features to: > > "ActivePerl-Beta@ActiveState.com" > > Problems downloading the beta? Send mail to: > > "WebMaster@ActiveState.com" > > -- The Activators > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to perl-win32-announce as: > [steve@bkwestmich.com] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to > leave-perl-win32-announce-15155E@lyris.ActiveState.com > For non-automated Mailing List support, send email to > ListHelp@ActiveState.com > From Mckeond at meijer.com Mon Feb 14 10:22:39 2000 From: Mckeond at meijer.com (Dave McKeon) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: [ ANNOUNCE ] - ActivePerl 5.6 Beta 1 Message-ID: Another PERL compile of perl which isn't altered by the active guys. http://www.petes-place.com/ TK perl works great with this version also, and it has a lot of mods in already. David McKeon Meijer Server Architecture Ext. 18841 Email:mckeond@meijer.com >>> "Steve Johnson" 02/14 9:49 AM >>> Pardon the possible cross post, but this is good news. Note the availability of fork() in the Windows platform. Cool. > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-perl-win32-announce-15155@lyris.ActiveState.com > [mailto:bounce-perl-win32-announce-15155@lyris.ActiveState.com]On Behalf > Of Michael Smith > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 7:39 PM > To: Perl-Win32-Announce Mailing List > Subject: [ ANNOUNCE ] - ActivePerl 5.6 Beta 1 > > > Greetings All, > > ActiveState is pleased to announce the first beta of ActivePerl 5.6. > > ActivePerl, including PPM, now supports the following platforms: > > - Windows > - Linux > - Solaris > > This beta release includes all the major features that have been > discussed for Perl 5.6. > > - Globalization and Unicode > - Concurrent Interpreters > - granularity of warnings > - New regex construct > - Lvalue subroutines > - Subroutine attributes > - 64-bit platforms > - Large File Systems > - Additional documentation and tutorials. > > The following additional new features are available on the Windows > platform: > > - Unicode system calls > - Windows Installer > - CPAN extensions > - fork() > > For further information see the release notes or readme file. > > ActiveState will also shortly make available beta versions of the > upcoming new releases of the Perl Dev Kit and PerlEx, which will > take advantage of the new features in ActivePerl 5.6. > > ActiveState cautions that the ActivePerl 5.6 beta release may contain > certain incomplete features and known bugs. It is made available > for testing purposes only. > > Download a copy of the ActivePerl Beta from: > > "http://www.ActiveState.com/cgibin/ActivePerl/download.pl" > > You can submit bug reports at: > > "http://bugs.ActiveState.com/ActivePerl" > > You can send feedback on the new features to: > > "ActivePerl-Beta@ActiveState.com" > > Problems downloading the beta? Send mail to: > > "WebMaster@ActiveState.com" > > -- The Activators > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to perl-win32-announce as: > [steve@bkwestmich.com] > To unsubscribe, forward this message to > leave-perl-win32-announce-15155E@lyris.ActiveState.com > For non-automated Mailing List support, send email to > ListHelp@ActiveState.com > From brandon at squareonedesign.com Tue Feb 15 13:54:25 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: O'Reilly Seeking "Perls" of Wisdom Message-ID: Hey everyone, O'Reilly is looking for information about what we do with Perl. Anyone interested should follow the link below. And, if you complete the survey, you could win a signed copy of Johan Vromans' Perl 5 Pocket Reference! (That would really save you the trouble of having to drag your own copy to a book signing somewhere, eh?) Brandon -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 2:45 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: O'Reilly Seeking "Perls" of Wisdom Hello from O'Reilly... We'd like to know how you're using Perl! O'Reilly & Associates invites you to participate in our Perl survey located at: http://perl.oreilly.com/survey/ After completing the survey, you'll be eligible to win an autographed copy of Johan Vromans' Perl 5 Pocket Reference, plus a newly released O'Reilly T-shirt, Perl: The Open Source Advantage. (We'll select 200 winners by a random drawing. The first 100 winners will receive both the book and T-shirt, the following 100 will receive a T-shirt). Visit our web site, complete the Perl survey, and help us find out what the Perl community is thinking! From dln at gilsongfx.com Wed Feb 16 15:56:24 2000 From: dln at gilsongfx.com (Del Nicholls) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Perl trivia question Message-ID: Hello all, Thanks to Joel M. for help with the following line, $text_in =~ s/zzz(\d+)/"\n".($1)."\n Euro ".(sprintf("%.2f", $1 \/ $cfeu))."\n"/ge; Stuffing all that in one line is so cool. I have another detail I haven't been able to find. In Excel you can specify a "ceiling" (all fractional parts of "1" round up to the next whole number. Does that function exist in Perl? For example: 1.0 stays 1.0 1.1 goes to 2.0 1.9 goes to 2.0 2.0 stays 2.0 Thanks, Del Nicholls Xyvision Manager Gilson Graphics Grand Rapids From Rick.Siner at priority-health.com Wed Feb 16 17:05:42 2000 From: Rick.Siner at priority-health.com (Siner, Rick) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Perl trivia question Message-ID: <83254446C33AD311B925000092A767E5016ACA01@yap.internal.priority-health.com> One brute force alternative would be if($v>int($v)){$v=int($v)+1;} I'm sure someone else might have a more elegant alternative..... -----Original Message----- From: Del Nicholls [mailto:dln@gilsongfx.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 4:56 PM To: GR List Perl Subject: Perl trivia question Hello all, Thanks to Joel M. for help with the following line, $text_in =~ s/zzz(\d+)/"\n".($1)."\n Euro ".(sprintf("%.2f", $1 \/ $cfeu))."\n"/ge; Stuffing all that in one line is so cool. I have another detail I haven't been able to find. In Excel you can specify a "ceiling" (all fractional parts of "1" round up to the next whole number. Does that function exist in Perl? For example: 1.0 stays 1.0 1.1 goes to 2.0 1.9 goes to 2.0 2.0 stays 2.0 Thanks, Del Nicholls Xyvision Manager Gilson Graphics Grand Rapids From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 19:53:47 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Perl trivia question Message-ID: <20000217015347.29403.qmail@web308.mail.yahoo.com> > if($v>int($v)){$v=int($v)+1;} Just one quick suggestion: If you're working with negative numbers, you may want to change it to: if($v != int($v)){$v=int($v)+1;} --- "Siner, Rick" wrote: > One brute force alternative would be > if($v>int($v)){$v=int($v)+1;} > > I'm sure someone else might have a more elegant alternative..... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Del Nicholls [mailto:dln@gilsongfx.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 4:56 PM > To: GR List Perl > Subject: Perl trivia question > > > Hello all, > > Thanks to Joel M. for help with the following line, > > $text_in =~ s/zzz(\d+)/"\n".($1)."\n Euro ".(sprintf("%.2f", $1 \/ > $cfeu))."\n"/ge; > > Stuffing all that in one line is so cool. > > I have another detail I haven't been able to find. In Excel you can > specify > a "ceiling" (all fractional parts of "1" round up to the next whole > number. > Does that function exist in Perl? > > For example: > 1.0 stays 1.0 > 1.1 goes to 2.0 > 1.9 goes to 2.0 > 2.0 stays 2.0 > > Thanks, > > Del Nicholls > Xyvision Manager > Gilson Graphics > Grand Rapids > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Wed Feb 16 19:59:44 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Perl trivia question Message-ID: <20000217015944.27792.qmail@web302.mail.yahoo.com> > > if($v>int($v)){$v=int($v)+1;} > > Just one quick suggestion: If you're working with negative numbers, > you may want to change it to: > > if($v != int($v)){$v=int($v)+1;} Sheesh, I shoulda thought about that more carefully. It should be: if($v != int($v)){$v=int($v) + ($v > 0);} __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From brandon at squareonedesign.com Thu Feb 24 08:31:44 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: O'Reilly Publishes Bunce' & Descarte's new Book on Perl DBI Message-ID: Hello everyone, This is the next book option and I have already requested a copy (seeing as it is the first Perl related book I have seen in months). It is on Perl DBI which, I imagine, will be a hot item for us. See you all tomorrow, Brandon Gohsman Square One Design 560 5th Street NW, Suite 301 Grand Rapids, MI 49504 T 616.774.9048 F 616.774.8003 E brandon@squareonedesign.com W http://www.squareonedesign.com -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:08 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: O'Reilly Publishes Bunce' & Descarte's new Book on Perl DBI For free review copy contact: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext. 339 deniseo@oreilly.com O'Reilly Publishes Bunce'& Descarte's new Book on Perl DBI As the Web moves from predominately brochure-ware to database-driven applications, "database-independent" programming has become increasingly important. One of the Perl programming languages' greatest strengths is its ability to manipulate huge amounts of data. The Perl Database Interface, better known as the Perl DBI, elegantly links the Perl programming language and virtually any type of database. With the Perl DBI, developers can program database applications to interface with different drivers, they can reuse code written for one database for another, they can use the same interface with all of the most popular databases-even different databases simultaneously (for example, a programmer can transfer data from an Oracle database to an Informix database with a single DBI program that connects to both databases and simply passes the data backwards and forwards as needed.) "The DBI is a database interface module for Perl. It defines a set of methods, variables and conventions that provide a consistent database interface independent of the actual database being used," explains Tim Bunce, the architect and inventor of DBI. "One important goal was for any library code we developed to be reusable as part of another system using a different database. Countless people have contributed over the years. The mailing list archives are vast." Bunce and Alligator Descartes, one of the most active members of the DBI community, have collaborated on a new book, Programming the Perl DBI (O'Reilly, $34.95). "I had been one of the first serious DBI users," explains Descartes. "And also the first person-other than Tim-to develop drivers for the DBI. Much of that experience and knowledge from those activities made me think documenting the DBI would be useful. This was doubly true when I noticed the same questions appearing over and over again on the DBI-users mailing list. I realized one of the problems appeared to be that people don't like learning from specifications." "We wanted to help people get the most out of the DBI by providing an accurate, clear, and helpful guide," adds Bunce. "Accuracy is important: In fact, it's one of my main motivations for working on the book. I'm hopeful that our book will become the standard text for the DBI." For the uninitiated, the book explains the architecture of DBI and shows you how to write DBI-based programs. For the experienced DBI dabbler, this book explains DBI's nuances and the peculiarities of each individual DBD. Programming the Perl DBI is the definitive book for database programming in Perl. For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, index, author bios, and samples, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perldbi/ For an interview with the authors, see: http://perl.oreilly.com/news/perldbi_0200.html For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565926994.jpg Alligator Descartes' Perl DBI resource site: http://www.symbolstone.org/technology/perl/DBI/index.html Up-to-date versions of the DBI and drivers are at: http://www.perl.com/CPAN/ # # # Programming the Perl DBI Database Programming with Perl By Alligator Descartes & Tim Bunce 1st Edition February 2000 (US) 1-56592-699-4, 350 pages, $34.95 (US.) order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com From brandon at squareonedesign.com Thu Feb 24 14:16:15 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: O'Reilly Releases New Edition of "Unix CD Bookshelf" Message-ID: Hello again, Here is another book from O'Reilly. And, again, I've already requested a copy. It is the "Unix CD Bookshelf" which I expect will be another popular title. See you tomorrow, Brandon Gohsman Square One Design 560 5th Street NW, Suite 301 Grand Rapids, MI 49504 T 616.774.9048 F 616.774.8003 E brandon@squareonedesign.com W http://www.squareonedesign.com -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 1:42 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: O'Reilly Releases New Edition of "Unix CD Bookshelf" For immediate release For free review copy, contact Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext. 339 or deniseo@oreilly.com New Edition of O'Reilly's "UNIX CD Bookshelf" Released Sebastopol, CA-You know that one of the O'Reilly UNIX books provides a solution to your pressing problem, but you can't remember which one. Or you're working at home or off-site, and you don't want to lug a shelf-full of books with you. Or maybe you don't yet have the complete O'Reilly library of UNIX books, and you don't have the shelf space to spare. Computer professionals increasingly rely on the Web, online help, and other online information sources to solve information pain. The second edition of O'Reilly's "Unix CD Bookshelf" provides convenient online access to updates of your favorite books on your CD-ROM drive. The CD has a master index for all six books and a powerful search engine-and all the text is extensively hyper-linked-so you can find what you're looking for quickly. Packaged with the hard copy of "Unix in a Nutshell", it takes up less than 2 inches of bookshelf space, and when you're on the run, you can just grab the CD and go. The six included books, purchased separately, would retail for $175.70, but "The Unix CD Bookshelf, Second Edition" package retails for only $69.95. The CD-ROM contains the complete text of: * UNIX in a Nutshell: 3rd Edition * UNIX Power Tools, 2nd Edition (with software) * Learning the UNIX Operating System, 4th Edition * Learning the vi Editor, 6th Edition * sed & awk, 2nd Edition * Learning the Korn Shell Formatted in HTML, "The UNIX CD Bookshelf, Second Edition" can be read by any Web browser. The books are fully searchable and cross-referenced. In addition to individual indexes for each book, a master index for the entire library is provided. What the critics said about the previous edition: "Elegant . . . on my list of Unix training essentials" --David Evnull, PC Pro, June 1999 "A collection of six classic O'Reilly works, (that every UNIX geek probably has propped next to the coke machine) on a single CD. Hats off to the editors in Sebastopol, CA". --Mark Hall, Performance Computing, February 1999 What readers said ... "I just got a job with an UNIX consulting firm, and so I started wishing I could have the O'Reilly books on my notebook - I can't hardly carry them to each customer site! I suppose that I'm behind the times, but I just discovered your CD Bookshelf series. Exactly what I need, so I'm going to order all three of them. Great idea!" "I pop in the CD while I work on some Unix stuff. It saves time and hassle. I get more ideas and learn new things in a unique way." "Simply a great set - hyper-linked refs, outstanding value...this CD from O'Reilly is unbeatable. The Unix Power Tools alone is worth a lot more $s than the CD itself." "THANK GOD FOR THIS CDROM!!! I feel that this CDROM should be in every user's PC. I have never been able to reference material as easily and as quickly as I can in this CDROM. No matter what scenario I'm looking for, it's in one of the books on the CD ROM. Yesterday, I couldn't figure out how to rename all of my files in my directory from an old extension .new to a new extension .old. All I did then was pop in this CDROM, type in that I want the search engine to search all 6 books, and type keywords RENAME AND FILE AND SED (I had a feeling Sed would help me), and BOOM, there's my information in two seconds FLAT!! This is the deal of the century!" "Worth investing in, reclaims shelf space... Definitely worth the investment, cheaper than buying the hard copy editions, and easier to use as a reference. Five stars." "Each of the six books by themselves are pretty good, the compilation and HTML format makes this, by far, the easiest and most comprehensive Unix reference material available." "I am a traveling consultant - taking a whole library of reference materials was not possible. I of course carried the hardcopy "Unix in a Nutshell". With the Unix CD Bookshelf, I have an excellent set of books at my fingertips without weighing down my suitcase. The search engine is excellent, very unintrusive." For more detailed information on the books included on the CD, and their authors, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/unixcdbs2/index.html For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565928156.jpg # # # The UNIX CD Bookshelf, 2nd Edition By O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. 2nd Edition February 2000 (US) 1-56592-815-6, 624 pages, $69.95, Features CD-ROM order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com From brandon at squareonedesign.com Fri Feb 25 13:07:57 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Oops. Message-ID: Hey everyone, guess what? I just looked at the clock on my monitor and noticed that it is 1:45 already. I guess that means that I missed the meeting. Sorry about that. No excuses. I didn?t have a meeting or car trouble or anything. I simply zoned out while working on a web site and listening to Rob Zombie. So, in an effort to redeem myself, if anyone has books that they really want to return, or would like to check out one that I currently have (see list below), please feel free to call, email, etc., and I?ll take care of it. Books currently in my possession: Developing ASP Components Win32 API Programming with Visual Basic Webmaster in a Nutshell Oracle SQL *Plus Oracle Web Applications Guide to Oracle8i Features Oracle SAP Administration Oracle Essentials Learning Debian GNU/Linux Windows 2000 Active Directory Learning Red Hat Linux Books that are not in my possession, but I know where they are: Oracle8i Internal Services for Waits, Latches, Locks, and Memory Checked Out Ed Eddington Oracle SQL*PLUS" Checked Out Chen Lee Programming Web Graphics with Perl & GNU Software Checked Out Matt Heusser Using Samba Checked Out Aaron Nienhuis MySQL & mSQL Checked Out Brandon Gohsman javascript application cookbook Checked Out Steve Johnson Running Linux Checked Out Del Nicholls Perl Algorithms Checked Out Steve Poling Java Cookbook Checked Out Steve Poling Writing Apache Modules in C and Perl Checked Out Steve Poling -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/grand-rapids-pm-list/attachments/20000225/920f9cc4/attachment.htm From brandon at squareonedesign.com Fri Feb 25 13:08:44 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: O'Reilly Publishes "Ethernet: The Definitive Guide" Message-ID: Anyone interested in "Spurgeion's Definitive Guide to Ethernet"? -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:43 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: O'Reilly Publishes "Ethernet: The Definitive Guide" For immediate release For free review copy contact: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext.339 or deniseo@oreilly.com O'Reilly Releases Spurgeon's Definitive Guide to Ethernet One of the foremost experts on Ethernet standards and configuration, Charles Spurgeon, has just written a new book: "Ethernet: The Definitive Guide", released by O'Reilly & Associates ($44.95). Used by networking administrators since the early 1980's, Ethernet is the core networking technology used by every high tech business. While the basic protocols have changed little, new options such as Fast Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet have increased the complexity of the topic. "Writing provided a way to share what I had learned about Ethernet during years of designing and operating large campus network systems. It also provided a good excuse to acquire copies of the IEEE standards and spend time becoming more knowledgeable about Ethernet," says Spurgeon. "However, the major reason why I have written on this topic was because I had problems finding accurate books on Ethernet. Over the years I have encountered a number of books on Ethernet that are riddled with a surprising number of technical errors, not to mention various assertions that are flat-out wrong." "Ethernet: The Definitive Guide" includes everything you need to know to set up and maintain an Ethernet network. "Ethernet has become the most widely used networking technology in the world," explains Spurgeon. "And it is still evolving. Ethernet has been in use for over 20 years, and there's a lot of Ethernet equipment in place-ranging from the original 10 Mbps systems on up to Fast Ethernet (100 Mbps) and Gigabit Ethernet (1000 Mbps). My book covers the entire range of Ethernet speeds and components, providing the information people need to understand and manage their Ethernet systems." "Ethernet: The Definitive Guide" is logically separated into five parts which include an introduction to Ethernet, media systems, how to build your Ethernet system, performance analysis and troubleshooting. "This is the most complete resource on Ethernet that I have ever seen. LAN administrators and architects, consultants, and developers alike will find this an indispensable resource," says Chris North. The author created an Ethernet Web site, which has been available at the same URL since February 1994. "This makes it one of the oldest continually operating Web sites that I know of," he says. It is available at: http://www.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/ethernet.html For more information about the book, including Table of Contents, index, author bio, and samples, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/enettdg/ A sample section from the book is available free online at: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/enettdg/chapter/ch13.html For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565926609.jpg # # # Ethernet The Definitive Guide by Charles E. Spurgeon 1st Edition February 2000 (US) 1-56592-660-9, 520 pages (est.), $44.95 (US.) order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com From joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com Fri Feb 25 16:52:39 2000 From: joelmeulenberg at yahoo.com (Joel Meulenberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: Oops. Message-ID: <20000225225239.13878.qmail@web301.mail.yahoo.com> > I simply zoned > out while working on a web site and listening to Rob Zombie. Sure you weren't playing Quake and listening to Rob Zombie? I can imagine Quaking to Zombie, but coding? : ) I'm not a big fan or anything, but I seriously dig that "Dragula" tune, though not so much the "Hot Rod Herman" remix of "Dragula" that was in The Matrix. (Now Dragula refers to one of the vehicles from that old show "The Munsters", right? Wasn't Dragula the name of the car that looked like a coffin mounted on a drag racing car frame?) +Joel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From brandon at squareonedesign.com Mon Feb 28 08:48:04 2000 From: brandon at squareonedesign.com (Brandon Gohsman) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:01:04 2004 Subject: FW: O'Reilly Releases Updated Motif Reference Manual Message-ID: Another book is up for review. Anyone? -----Original Message----- From: Denise Olliffe [mailto:deniseo@oreilly.com] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 7:38 PM To: brandon@squareonedesign.com Subject: O'Reilly Releases Updated Motif Reference Manual For immediate release For free review copy, contact: Denise Olliffe (707) 829-0515 ext 339, deniseo@oreilly.com O'Reilly Releases Updated Motif Reference Manual Motif is the only native toolkit for Unix that supports large scale internationalized applications. It provides a complete set of widgets, such as buttons, scroll bars, menus, and dialog boxes, for developing graphical user interfaces. It also includes a library of functions for creating and manipulating those widgets. "The Motif widget set needs no introduction: everyone using a UNIX-based X workstation will have either used or programmed with it," says Antony Fountain, co-author of the new volume. "The Motif widget set offers the most feature-complete solution, and remains the best choice for standardized, large scale, industrial strength, mission critical, and internationalized applications." The second edition of the "Motif Reference Manual" covers Motif 2.1, a robust release supported by the major workstation vendors, including Sun (Solaris 2.7), HP, and SGI. "Motif 2.1 offers an extended range of components which provide a consistent user interface, whether in terms of overall appearance and behavior, inter-component navigability, or data transfer. The components are rich in configurability, either from the programmer or the user perspective," says Fountain. "No other toolkit offers programmers greater power over the geometry management of their programs." This book is designed to be used with "Volume 6A, Motif Programming Manual", which describes how to build applications using the Motif toolkit and provides a complete tutorial with programming examples. Both of these books are an integral part of the X Window System series from O'Reilly. What a reader said about the previous edition: "This is a 'must get' book for all the Motif programmers. Personally, I have bought several Motif books before I purchased the 'Motif Programming Manual'. Just forget others, and get this book to start with. The good points about this book compared to other Motif books: Plenty more examples than other books. For all programming standard, much more easy to read and follow. You can learn much more from the examples than other books. A very organized, efficient, and structural programming style. In conclusion, you can learn not only to be 'a good Motif programmer', but also 'to make full use of Motif." Appendix D: New Features in Motif 2.1 and 2.0 is freely available online at: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/motifref2/chapter/appd.html For more information about the book, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/motifref2/ For a cover graphic in jpeg format, go to: ftp://ftp.ora.com/pub/graphics/book_covers/hi-res/1565926544.jpg # # # Volume 6B: Motif Reference Manual, 2nd Edition For Motif 2.1 By Antony Fountain & Paula Ferguson 2nd Edition February 2000 1-56592-654-4, 1154 pages, $49.95 order@oreilly.com 1-800-998-9938 http://www.oreilly.com