Your last paragraph is where I'm coming from. I never was a great programmer, but I need to understand the programming toolkit, to ensure I can get software written which is robust,reliable anbd maintainable. Java will be around for a long time due to its installed base and teaching courses. I'm sure the People working on Perl 6 are committed to producing a quality product, as is almost everyone working on a software project. Its not possible for anyone to be an experienced expert on all software tools, so we need to focus our attention on those where we can gain experience. I was trying to get a view as to whether F# was likely to become a language on all platforms if it had been fully open sourced. I obviously poked a hornets nest!<br>
<br>On my personal learning curve, I am almost swayed to write a Haskell program rather than a bash script on my Linux workstation, as it nearly always works correctly if I can get it past GHC! Always my fault,never GHC.<br>
--<br>Andrew<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 28 January 2011 12:25, Hakim Cassimally <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hakim.cassimally@gmail.com">hakim.cassimally@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">On 28 January 2011 12:14, Aaron Crane <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:perl@aaroncrane.co.uk" target="_blank">perl@aaroncrane.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">
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Andrew Smith <<a href="mailto:asmith9983@gmail.com" target="_blank">asmith9983@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Perl 6 [is] dead in water.<br>
<br>
That seems an odd way to describe a language whose specification is<br>
converging on a firm state, and whose most popular implementation is<br>
being worked on by a growing team of dedicated volunteers at<br>
ever-increasing velocity.<br>
<br>
Anyone who's decided that Perl 6 does not meet their needs is, of<br>
course, free to avoid using it. But I think it's unreasonable to<br>
badmouth the efforts of those who are working on it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>I don't think that suggesting Perl 6 is irrelevant is equivalent</div><div>to badmouthing the excellent efforts of the volunteers working </div>
<div>on it.</div><div><br></div><div>Perl 6 has given us, among other things:</div><div><br></div><div> * greater crossover between Perl and Haskell communities</div><div> * some great innovations, many of which have been implemented in Perl 5</div>
<div><br></div><div>But it's also:</div><div><br></div><div> * lost a lot of passion, interest, and face, by virtue of being so </div><div> big, and so late.</div><div> * I understand all the reasons it's so big, and so late, but the</div>
<div> greatest emotion I feel when speaking about Perl 6 is usually </div><div> irritation at having to be mocked about it by people outside of </div><div> the Perl echo chamber.</div><div><br></div><div>When Perl 6 is released, how many companies will move their </div>
<div>codebase to Perl 6? </div><div>I think many of us are more likely to remain Perl 5 programmers </div><div>than become Perl 6 programmers, professionally.</div><div><br></div><div>(And I sometimes think, semi-seriously, that I'm more likely to </div>
<div>become a professional Haskell programmer than a Perl 6 one. </div><div>I suspect this shows up the extent of the problem ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>osf'</div></div>
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