From miles at assyrian.org.uk Mon Feb 13 06:50:34 2012 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:50:34 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Fwd: [Python Edinburgh] WhiskyWeb Conference Call For Papers Message-ID: <4F39233A.5010300@assyrian.org.uk> "Web hacking and whisky-drinking," I thought, "now who do I know who might be interested in that?" Miles -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Python Edinburgh] WhiskeyWeb Conference Call For Papers Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:49:27 +0000 From: Dougal Matthews Reply-To: Python Edinburgh Hi all, There is a web conference happening in Edinburgh in April. It's very good value with only ?50 per person for a day of talks and a day of hacking (plus some whisky tasting!) I'm keen to try an get as much Python content there as possible. Currently the word needs to be spread a bit further, but its looking very promising. To find out more view their website: http://whiskyweb.co.uk/ If you are keen to submit a talk head to: http://cfp.whiskyweb.co.uk/ Dougal _______________________________________________ Edinburgh mailing list Edinburgh at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh From cyocum at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 03:07:14 2012 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:07:14 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? Message-ID: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Guys, I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. I was wondering if I should book a table the Cumberland? Thanks, Chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk9DeuIACgkQDjE+CSbP7HpbrAEAt1Rw+uuzEI8Or+SL9rkd3U5Q Xch0gzv2a8hxg+cjV04A/3VMsxPwI3tTzUkdfDwqkjtRLB3h/2WEAFk8A49RJWWy =AzeW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From perl at minty.org Tue Feb 21 03:12:26 2012 From: perl at minty.org (Murray) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:12:26 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> > I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. I was wondering if I > should book a table the Cumberland? I plan to be there. Please do :) From edwin.brady at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 03:23:14 2012 From: edwin.brady at gmail.com (Edwin Brady) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:23:14 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> Message-ID: <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> On 21 Feb 2012, at 11:12, Murray wrote: >> I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. I was wondering if I >> should book a table the Cumberland? > > I plan to be there. Please do :) I'm planning to turn up this month too. Edwin. From perl at aaroncrane.co.uk Tue Feb 21 05:17:05 2012 From: perl at aaroncrane.co.uk (Aaron Crane) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:17:05 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> Message-ID: Edwin Brady wrote: > On 21 Feb 2012, at 11:12, Murray wrote: >>> I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. ?I was wondering if I >>> should book a table the Cumberland? >> >> I plan to be there. ?Please do :) > > I'm planning to turn up this month too. I can't make it this month, I'm afraid. -- Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ From napalm10 at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 05:20:33 2012 From: napalm10 at gmail.com (David Trail) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:20:33 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> Message-ID: I've been subscribed to this list for about three years but never been. I bet you're all terrifying people! *hides* On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Aaron Crane wrote: > Edwin Brady wrote: > > On 21 Feb 2012, at 11:12, Murray wrote: > >>> I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. I was wondering if I > >>> should book a table the Cumberland? > >> > >> I plan to be there. Please do :) > > > > I'm planning to turn up this month too. > > I can't make it this month, I'm afraid. > > -- > Aaron Crane ** http://aaroncrane.co.uk/ > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Feb 21 05:39:02 2012 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:39:02 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F439E76.2090808@assyrian.org.uk> On 21/02/12 13:20, David Trail wrote: > I've been subscribed to this list for about three years but never been. > I bet you're all terrifying people! No, we're lovely, honest. I'll try to make it along. Miles From miles at assyrian.org.uk Tue Feb 21 05:58:33 2012 From: miles at assyrian.org.uk (Miles Gould) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:58:33 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] RPython/PyPy talk Tuesday 28th, 1600, Informatics Forum In-Reply-To: <4F43A002.3070600@inf.ed.ac.uk> References: <4F43A002.3070600@inf.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4F43A309.7050601@assyrian.org.uk> There's a talk about RPython and PyPy at the Informatics Forum on Crichton Street next Tuesday - abstract below - and I thought that some of you might be interested. If you don't have a University keycard then you'll need someone to let you into the building; email me and I'll be happy to sign you in. ICSA is the Institute for Computer Systems Architecture; LFCS is the Logic and the Foundations of Computer Science group. They live at opposite ends of the building, work at opposite ends of the abstraction stack, and rarely interact, so don't worry about looking out-of-place :-) Miles -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: [icsa-staff] [icsa-colloquium-series] ICSA/LFCS COLLOQUIUM TALK Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:45:38 +0000 From: Miles Gould To: miles at assyrian.org.uk -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [icsa-staff] [icsa-colloquium-series] ICSA/LFCS COLLOQUIUM TALK Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:15:37 -0000 From: hlow at staffmail.ed.ac.uk Reply-To: hlow at staffmail.ed.ac.uk To: , ****ANNOUNCEMENT**** First announcement for forthcoming talk on 28th February. **This is a joint talk with LFCS** Date: Tuesday 28th February 2012 Time: 16:00-17:00 Venue: IF 4.31/4.33 Talk and presentation from Laurence Tratt of Kings College London. Title: Experiences of implementing a VM with RPython Abstract: Programming language designers face a horrible dilemma when it comes to implementing their languages: too little implementation, and it will be laughed at as too slow; too much, and it Officially I don't think these talks are open to the public, but I can will divert energy away from design. Lacking the manpower to make a plausibly fast implementation, many interesting language design ideas have faded unfairly into obscurity. In this talk I look at a new mode of creating "fast enough virtual machines in fast enough time" Virtual Machines (VMs), using the meta-tracing JIT language RPython. Unlike previous approaches, RPython creates VMs that automatically come with a JIT customised for the language being interpreted. RPython has been used to implement a new VM for Python that gives an average speed-up of 5x over the stock VM, and thus demonstrably scales to "real" languages. I will share my experiences of creating an RPython VM for the Converge language http://convergepl.org/ to replace the existing C VM. The new VM executes between 3x and 10x faster than the old VM, despite taking significantly less work to create. I will outline: how RPython works; what a VM created using it looks like; the trade-offs of using RPython; as well as thoughts for the future of similar approaches. Regards Heather Heather Low School of Informatics The University of Edinburgh Informatics Forum 1.37 Tel: 0131 650 8741 -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. _______________________________________________ icsa-colloquium-series mailing list icsa-colloquium-series at inf.ed.ac.uk http://lists.inf.ed.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/icsa-colloquium-series _______________________________________________ icsa-staff mailing list icsa-staff at inf.ed.ac.uk http://lists.inf.ed.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/icsa-staff From cyocum at gmail.com Tue Feb 21 06:09:12 2012 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:09:12 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] RPython/PyPy talk Tuesday 28th, 1600, Informatics Forum In-Reply-To: <4F43A309.7050601@assyrian.org.uk> References: <4F43A002.3070600@inf.ed.ac.uk> <4F43A309.7050601@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <4F43A588.4090309@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Yes, I have noticed the disdain that people give me when I tell them that I was at LFCS. Chris On 21/02/12 13:58, Miles Gould wrote: > There's a talk about RPython and PyPy at the Informatics Forum on > Crichton Street next Tuesday - abstract below - and I thought that > some of you might be interested. If you don't have a University > keycard then you'll need someone to let you into the building; > email me and I'll be happy to sign you in. > > ICSA is the Institute for Computer Systems Architecture; LFCS is > the Logic and the Foundations of Computer Science group. They live > at opposite ends of the building, work at opposite ends of the > abstraction stack, and rarely interact, so don't worry about > looking out-of-place :-) > > Miles > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: [icsa-staff] > [icsa-colloquium-series] ICSA/LFCS COLLOQUIUM TALK Date: Tue, 21 > Feb 2012 13:45:38 +0000 From: Miles Gould > To: miles at assyrian.org.uk > > > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [icsa-staff] > [icsa-colloquium-series] ICSA/LFCS COLLOQUIUM TALK Date: Tue, 21 > Feb 2012 10:15:37 -0000 From: hlow at staffmail.ed.ac.uk Reply-To: > hlow at staffmail.ed.ac.uk To: , > > > ****ANNOUNCEMENT**** > > First announcement for forthcoming talk on 28th February. > > **This is a joint talk with LFCS** > > Date: Tuesday 28th February 2012 Time: 16:00-17:00 Venue: IF > 4.31/4.33 > > Talk and presentation from Laurence Tratt of Kings College London. > Title: Experiences of implementing a VM with RPython > > > Abstract: Programming language designers face a horrible dilemma > when it comes to implementing their languages: too little > implementation, and it will be laughed at as too slow; too much, > and it Officially I don't think these talks are open to the public, > but I can will divert energy away from design. Lacking the manpower > to make a plausibly fast implementation, many interesting language > design ideas have faded unfairly into obscurity. > > In this talk I look at a new mode of creating "fast enough virtual > machines in fast enough time" Virtual Machines (VMs), using the > meta-tracing JIT language RPython. Unlike previous approaches, > RPython creates VMs that automatically come with a JIT customised > for the language being interpreted. RPython has been used to > implement a new VM for Python that gives an average speed-up of 5x > over the stock VM, and thus demonstrably scales to "real" > languages. > > I will share my experiences of creating an RPython VM for the > Converge language http://convergepl.org/ to replace the existing C > VM. The new VM executes between 3x and 10x faster than the old VM, > despite taking significantly less work to create. > > I will outline: how RPython works; what a VM created using it looks > like; the trade-offs of using RPython; as well as thoughts for the > future of similar approaches. > > Regards Heather > > Heather Low School of Informatics The University of Edinburgh > Informatics Forum 1.37 > > Tel: 0131 650 8741 > > -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > > _______________________________________________ > icsa-colloquium-series mailing list > icsa-colloquium-series at inf.ed.ac.uk > http://lists.inf.ed.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/icsa-colloquium-series > _______________________________________________ icsa-staff mailing > list icsa-staff at inf.ed.ac.uk > http://lists.inf.ed.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/icsa-staff > > _______________________________________________ Edinburgh-pm > mailing list Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk9DpYgACgkQDjE+CSbP7HreQQEAmW1c9CzPw/d0Qlo72c+ibCGX j1Pkx4GEPjZmshJq9BABAIQDWbLjkijGbv3RaeGKwuCzrrZGaR8hXqMBsXMJJc6R =eJ59 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From cyocum at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 05:56:39 2012 From: cyocum at gmail.com (Chris Yocum) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:56:39 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: <4F439E76.2090808@assyrian.org.uk> References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> <4F439E76.2090808@assyrian.org.uk> Message-ID: <4F44F417.6000504@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi Everyone, I have booked a table for 7-10 people for 7pm at the Cumberland Bar. I hope to see you all there! Chris On 21/02/12 13:39, Miles Gould wrote: > On 21/02/12 13:20, David Trail wrote: >> I've been subscribed to this list for about three years but never >> been. I bet you're all terrifying people! > > No, we're lovely, honest. > > I'll try to make it along. > > Miles _______________________________________________ Edinburgh-pm > mailing list Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAk9E9BcACgkQDjE+CSbP7Hr5cgD/UZuWaXXRTI7UhK1rNMTnqidq pezwnaRybz6aJDExc+0A/1MlKmpJ4Y0bT1Lae8khJsEB8XQ9BLRLNCEls2YCy/b1 =sDaU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fontani at gmail.com Wed Feb 22 06:15:43 2012 From: fontani at gmail.com (Marco Fontani) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:15:43 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: <4F44F417.6000504@gmail.com> References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> <20120221111221.GC26183@mooker.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <33F626FC-D83D-48B3-A08B-76EF8BFC7742@gmail.com> <4F439E76.2090808@assyrian.org.uk> <4F44F417.6000504@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A90F737-3C6F-45F4-8177-C77DEFEFA0F1@gmail.com> > I have booked a table for 7-10 people for 7pm at the Cumberland Bar. I should be there a bit earlier, about 1815/1830, if anybody else feels like being there earlier. I will also leave around 1930-ish. Look forward to seeing you there tomorrow! -marco- --- Marco Fontani Glasgow Perl Mongers - http://glasgow.pm.org/ Bitcoin: 1QA1K3Ghz9AuJ8na6JKJVudEko3WKx1xC2 Join the RackSpace Cloud at: http://www.rackspacecloud.com/277.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will also leave around 1930-ish. > > Look forward to seeing you there tomorrow! > > -marco- > > --- > Marco Fontani > Glasgow Perl Mongers - http://glasgow.pm.org/ > Bitcoin: 1QA1K3Ghz9AuJ8na6JKJVudEko3WKx1xC2 > Join the RackSpace Cloud at: http://www.rackspacecloud.com/277.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -- If it's pointless, what's the point? If there is a point to it, what's the point? (Tibor Fischer, "The Thought Gang") -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.randell at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 07:40:24 2012 From: anthony.randell at gmail.com (Anthony Randell) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:40:24 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 21 February 2012 11:07, Chris Yocum wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi Guys, > > I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. I was wondering if I > should book a table the Cumberland? > > Thanks, > Chris > I plan to be there - will see you tonight. A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From asmith9983 at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 07:44:00 2012 From: asmith9983 at gmail.com (A Smith) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:44:00 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> Message-ID: Planning on being there too ~ 7:30pm. -- Andrew On 23 February 2012 15:40, Anthony Randell wrote: > On 21 February 2012 11:07, Chris Yocum wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> I assume that we are meeting this Thursday. I was wondering if I >> should book a table the Cumberland? >> >> Thanks, >> Chris >> > > I plan to be there - will see you tonight. > > A > > _______________________________________________ > Edinburgh-pm mailing list > Edinburgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/edinburgh-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robrwo at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 08:20:42 2012 From: robrwo at gmail.com (Robert Rothenberg) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:20:42 +0000 Subject: [Edinburgh-pm] Meeting? In-Reply-To: References: <4F437AE2.5060608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F46675A.7060104@gmail.com> Can't make it tonight. I'm still recovering from the flu.