From JGSmith at TAMU.Edu Tue Aug 3 10:47:30 2004 From: JGSmith at TAMU.Edu (James G Smith) Date: Tue Aug 3 10:47:35 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Request for references Message-ID: <200408031547.i73FlUm5027770@moya.tamu.edu> I am in the process of putting together a proposal for a position. As part of the process, I may need some references and I'm wondering if any of you would be willing to serve as such. I don't need references regarding employment, but regarding my place in the open source community and knowledge of open source. If you would be willing, please contact me privately with your contact information. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. The position I am proposing would act as a facilitator, helping faculty understand the creative commons that is the bedrock of OSS and how to leverage OSS for their own projects. This position would also investigate building a low-cost, high-availability, and low-maintenance platform for producing applications that are parts of faculty projects. Thanks. -- James Smith , 979-862-3725 Texas A&M CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix From JGSmith at TAMU.Edu Wed Aug 4 13:39:29 2004 From: JGSmith at TAMU.Edu (James G Smith) Date: Wed Aug 4 13:39:33 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] skinnable schema Message-ID: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> Here are some of my initial thoughts. Overall, I think it's a good schema. I just have a couple of nit-picky things to clarify. http://axkitbook.com/download/skinner.rng I assume the following is an example: 0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef Smith James jgsmith Some title here (without markup?) This seems reasonable. The logout/login box can key off the security section. The main thing I am wondering about is the navigation. Should we have assumptions about location in our tags? Perhaps we could come up with a semantic description of the type of navigation. We might also want some items such as the content boxes on the side in slashdot and other similar sites. I'm not sure what to call them, though comes to mind. But that's putting positioning back into it. Perhaps to mean something that is content, but not primary content. The term is borrowed from print publishing, but doesn't require that it be at the side. -- James Smith , 979-862-3725 Texas A&M CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix From mike at nachbaur.com Wed Aug 4 14:31:49 2004 From: mike at nachbaur.com (Michael A Nachbaur) Date: Wed Aug 4 14:32:01 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] skinnable schema In-Reply-To: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> References: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <200408041231.49675.mike@nachbaur.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On August 4, 2004 11:39 am, James G Smith wrote: > > > > > I don't know if I like this. The tag name implies location on the screen, as well as the numbers or names of navigation regions. I'd much rather take a leaf from DocBook's...err...book, and use something like a "role" or "name" attribute. So: ... ... ... ... > > > I feel similarly to my navigation comments above. I know there can be many instances where multiple content regions may be displayed on a page. For example, a blog that can contain multiple entries, a search results page, etc. - -- Michael A. Nachbaur http://nachbaur.com/pgpkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBETmlvow0fXaFDZQRApwzAJwJNvwIU5+q5t15ol1Vzj5WYZ7KqwCeJTnx /HY877Kd0on2Bx2mosE6lkU= =ozMI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From robin.berjon at expway.fr Thu Aug 5 04:02:26 2004 From: robin.berjon at expway.fr (Robin Berjon) Date: Thu Aug 5 04:02:00 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] skinnable schema In-Reply-To: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> References: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <4111F7A2.6020008@expway.fr> James G Smith wrote: > I assume the following is an example: > > skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: By Eris, what's wrong with you people? Use the default namespace! -- Robin Berjon From mike at nachbaur.com Thu Aug 5 11:47:44 2004 From: mike at nachbaur.com (Michael A Nachbaur) Date: Thu Aug 5 11:47:50 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] skinnable schema In-Reply-To: <4111F7A2.6020008@expway.fr> References: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> <4111F7A2.6020008@expway.fr> Message-ID: <200408050947.46924.mike@nachbaur.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On August 5, 2004 02:02 am, Robin Berjon wrote: > James G Smith wrote: > > I assume the following is an example: > > > > > > skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: > skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: > skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: skin: > > > By Eris, what's wrong with you people? Use the default namespace! LOL. I used the "skin:" prefix 'cause the default namespace would be for the XHTML content contained within the skin: regions. So :-P thbptt! - -- Michael A. Nachbaur http://nachbaur.com/pgpkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBEmSyvow0fXaFDZQRAmvkAJ48fAreUV7ckHIUL4Ah2yIuAQNJTgCeMDv3 Qnscpui6NDEFGEGHarNb7bg= =dDSw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From robin.berjon at expway.fr Thu Aug 5 12:22:47 2004 From: robin.berjon at expway.fr (Robin Berjon) Date: Thu Aug 5 12:22:21 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] skinnable schema In-Reply-To: <200408050947.46924.mike@nachbaur.com> References: <200408041839.i74IdTm5029758@moya.tamu.edu> <4111F7A2.6020008@expway.fr> <200408050947.46924.mike@nachbaur.com> Message-ID: <41126CE7.9000301@expway.fr> Michael A Nachbaur wrote: > On August 5, 2004 02:02 am, Robin Berjon wrote: >>By Eris, what's wrong with you people? Use the default namespace! > > LOL. I used the "skin:" prefix 'cause the default namespace would be for the > XHTML content contained within the skin: regions. > So :-P thbptt! Hmmmpf, mmmmkay, you get away with it *this* time my appetizing friend! -- Robin Berjon From robin.berjon at expway.fr Thu Aug 12 12:51:10 2004 From: robin.berjon at expway.fr (Robin Berjon) Date: Thu Aug 12 12:51:14 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Volunteers for CPAN takeover Message-ID: <411BAE0E.6000701@expway.fr> Hi Dahuts and Bj?rn, [only one of these two being a mythical beast] it is quite apparent now if it wasn't before that I'm highly unlikely to be doing much Perl work, for fun or profit, in the foreseeable future. What (very) little development work I do for myself is entirely around UI-level specifications, and that involves building atop either Mozilla or Cocoa (probably the latter most of the time). No Perl. It's not that I don't like Perl anymore, it's just that it's not the right tool for the stuff I'd like to do. I'd like to think that some of the stuff I put on CPAN is useful, even if I do say so myself ;) And seeing that most of it hasn't been touched in a decade or so, it needs to be in the hands of someone that would maintain it. There are three kinds of modules there: those that no one ever used, those that are used by very few, and those that are in common use. They're all for grabs but obviously the latter are more important. Some also have no foreseen need for maintenance which means I can keep them without it being a problem for anyone, unless a patch is sent that I will very likely forget in my inbox somewhere. Note that it's probably not a lot of work (unless you want to improve on them, I can certainly give leads in there -- especially supporting Encode in XML::SAX::Writer), just a patch once in a while. Please say which ones you want. Those that don't have takers will be sold on use.perl and perl-xml. Here goes: TAKEN (by Perigrin) Acme::Dahut XML::CommonNS XML::NamespaceFactory USED AxKit::XSP::CharsetConv Last I looked this was used by people that were having trouble with charsets in XSP, which isn't unusual when dealing with broken form input or when using XSP with non-XML stuff (notably DBs). Zero-maintenance. AxKit::XSP::MD5 This was used back in the days, don't know abotu the status, but zero-maintenance. XML::Filter::BufferText Simple, useful, makes the Java guys jealous. No foreseen maintenance. XML::NamespaceSupport This needs to be maintained because SAX relies on it heavily, even though it doesn't seem to have any problems and shouldn't be work to own. XML::SAX::Expat I expect this to be superceded by the XS version, but it could use some maintenance. XML::SAX::Writer This needs a new owner. It'll likely require at least a little work. USED A LITTLE AxKit::XSP::AttrParam This is potentially used, but it should be merged into the other param taglibs. Class::ArrayObjects I know of a few people that use this, and some of my modules have dependencies on it. It would be fair for ubu to take it over since he ridiculed it so much ;) There may be a need for a patch or two if people request it, but it's unlikely. CSS::SAC Bj?rn uses this, and some people have mentionned using it. Requires patches (that Bj?rn has -- I would assume that if you don't take it no one will. I grant you the right to add support for parsing gradients if you do take it :). NOT USED THAT I KNOW OF AxKit::Plugin::DisableXSLTParams This one has been advertised several times and I used to use it on all my AxKit site, but I think I'm the only person who doesn't think it stinks. It's zero-maintenance though so it's a cheap way to increase your CPAN count. XML::RDDL It would seem that I'm the only person in the Perl community interested in RDDL (check it out if you don't know what it is). It's likely to move if the TAG makes a Rec out of it. This is one of the rare modules that I might actually maintain (pending TAG related work) but by all means take it if you're interested in the topic (imho RDDL could be very useful for SemWeb stuff, a little explored avenue). NOT EVEN DONE XML::XPathExt This could be useful, but right now it's just a proof-of-concept. NOT RELEASED XML::DOM3 http://www.expway.com/robin/perl/XML-DOM3-0.03.tar.gz Thanks for taking stuff off the list! I'll post to other fora with stuff I don't have answers for in a week. -- Robin Berjon From chris at prather.org Mon Aug 23 23:07:03 2004 From: chris at prather.org (Chris Prather) Date: Mon Aug 23 23:06:39 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, August 23 Message-ID: <200408232307.03696.chris@prather.org> I can assume that this only can mean we're a User Group now. -Chris Dahut in Charge of Reading hte President's Email -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Marsee Henon Subject: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, August 23 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:19:27 -0700 Size: 20644 Url: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/dahut-pm/attachments/20040823/d736b0eb/attachment.eml From mike at nachbaur.com Mon Aug 23 23:24:59 2004 From: mike at nachbaur.com (Michael Nachbaur) Date: Mon Aug 23 23:25:02 2004 Subject: [Dahut-pm] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, August 23 In-Reply-To: <200408232307.03696.chris@prather.org> References: <200408232307.03696.chris@prather.org> Message-ID: <8F6CED56-F585-11D8-94AD-000393AB2026@nachbaur.com> On Aug 23, 2004, at 9:07 PM, Chris Prather wrote: > I can assume that this only can mean we're a User Group now. > > -Chris > Dahut in Charge of Reading hte President's Email DAAAHUUUTT!! We'll take over the world, you markup my words! -- Michael A Nachbaur http://nachbaur.com/pgpkey.asc