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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Great information everyone - thank you for
taking the time to respond. Now the question remains – Is there anyone out
there that is willing to give me a shot and discuss this position with myself
and my client? At the very least you will be taking 30 minutes out of your day
to talk about something you are passionate about (Perl). I personally have
done some Perl coding as well so I can give you something to laugh about when I
tell you how horribly wrong it went. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>614.255.1340 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="mailto:sblickhan@dawsoncareers.com">sblickhan@dawsoncareers.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> shane
[mailto:shane@lottadot.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 18, 2007
6:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Jonathan Hogue<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Scott Blickhan;
columbus-pm@pm.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Columbus-pm] Lead
Perl Developer</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Hogue wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>good discussion. I was having this same conversationon the side.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>To me, there's two points. perl's bit of a dieing language. ie, most
new projects are in Java, .net or maybe Ruby. Most companies that do perl
are in a containment mode or are in the process of converting to some
other technology. And a lot of the talent that used to do Perl are now doing
other things (java, .net, Ruby or something completely different).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sometimes I ponder on that "dieing" thing. One doesn't see
too many perl articles on dzone, digg, etc. But is that because the other
languages don't have things like local perl monger's groups (I know CMH has a
Ruby group now), perl Monks, use.perl and the best tool of all cpan? How many
of those other languages that are always being blogged about have the vast
resources that cpan gives perl, available to them - now?? Or is it because
instead of blogging about 10 different variations of the same simple sets of
ruby/php code, people are actually just coding away in Perl instead of blogging
about it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I guess it all depends on where you work. Some places are Perl shops.
Some vb, .net, rails, java, c, whatever. Each has many frameworks, that
different shops choose (or not) to use.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I haven't worked in Perl in over 2 years. My experience is out dated.
So most perl interviews are a waste of time because they end up being dead
ends.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>But how many years did you spend coding in it? How fast, if you wanted
to, do you think you could "pick it up again"?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, because Perl is being used less and less in application
development projects, and by doing Perl development I'm missing opportunities
to learn more marketable technologies, it's a bit of a dead end career move to.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I think it depends on where you work. But most places I've worked
- learn something new? 'Do it on your own time.' Then they don't understand why
you get hired away at a larger salary because you know more and you're more
valuable. Hmmm. Seems like a pattern to me, but what do I know? ;) (as I pickup
another programming book)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> That doesn't mean that I won't take Perl positions, but I
look to be paid a premium ($150-300 an hour) to even consider going
through the interview process and jumping into a position whose main benefit is
the pay.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Heh, I've never been paid to consider/go through an interview process.
My hats off to ya :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Shane<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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