From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 14 20:14:32 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:14:32 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] April Meeting
Message-ID: <w2of7a7c49c1004142014pbd2981fft9ad4287b022292ae@mail.gmail.com>

I dropped the ball this week on the April meeting. Thursday is already
here... and nothing was on the front page of Columbus.pm and no nag
e-mails.

If there are no major objections, let's move this to next Thursday.
Columbus.pm has been updated, and I've started to nag. :-)

From jon at hogue.org  Tue Apr 20 08:25:55 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:25:55 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] Meeting on Thursday
Message-ID: <i2rf7a7c49c1004200825ue0ecf823i37c501facae6a480@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks, there is a meeting this Thursday. It is a social meeting at the
Old Bag of Nails in Grandview. Here's the details.


http://columbus.pm.org/node/138

 Start: 04/22/2010 19:00
 Timezone: America/New York

Social meeting at the Old Bag of Nails in Grandview. 7:00 PM.

Old Bag of Nails is one of our sponsors, who gave us t-shirts and gift cards
for our bag o speaker swag.

1099 1st Avenue, Grandview Heights, OH?
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From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 21 20:17:57 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:17:57 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] Meeting on Thursday
In-Reply-To: <i2rf7a7c49c1004200825ue0ecf823i37c501facae6a480@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2rf7a7c49c1004200825ue0ecf823i37c501facae6a480@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h2mf7a7c49c1004212017s2e85f6c0k21caed70286d5339@mail.gmail.com>

Perl Mongers meeting tomorrow. Who plans coming? (so I know what size table
to get.)

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:

> Hi folks, there is a meeting this Thursday. It is a social meeting at the
> Old Bag of Nails in Grandview. Here's the details.
>
>
> http://columbus.pm.org/node/138
>
>  Start: 04/22/2010 19:00
>  Timezone: America/New York
>
> Social meeting at the Old Bag of Nails in Grandview. 7:00 PM.
>
> Old Bag of Nails is one of our sponsors, who gave us t-shirts and gift
> cards for our bag o speaker swag.
>
> 1099 1st Avenue, Grandview Heights, OH?
> View Larger Map<http://www.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&sll=40.300952,-83.067465&sspn=0.018001,0.044847&q=Old+Bag+of+Nails+Pub&near=&om=1&ie=UTF8&hq=Old+Bag+of+Nails+Pub&hnear=&ll=39.975739,-83.024197&spn=0.036965,0.079393&source=embed>
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From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 28 07:15:06 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:15:06 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
Message-ID: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.

like
> which Test::More
/usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm

That would be cool.

From metaperl at gmail.com  Wed Apr 28 07:33:13 2010
From: metaperl at gmail.com (Terrence Brannon)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:33:13 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m2ja8e52b651004280733kdee5b0c8xa7a9585e57d39194@mail.gmail.com>

perl -MData::Dumper -MTest::More -e 'print Dumper \%INC'

you will see $INC{Test::More} pointing to it's location

regards from Boca Raton, FL! perhaps on my way to Memphis, TN!

-- Terrence

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>
> like
>> which Test::More
> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>
> That would be cool.
> _______________________________________________
> Columbus-pm mailing list
> http://columbus.pm.org/
> Columbus-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>

From metaperl at gmail.com  Wed Apr 28 07:33:59 2010
From: metaperl at gmail.com (Terrence Brannon)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:33:59 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <w2ua8e52b651004280733ldabd1bb0vc3e9c37be0e87b82@mail.gmail.com>

In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
that preferred?

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>
> like
>> which Test::More
> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>
> That would be cool.
> _______________________________________________
> Columbus-pm mailing list
> http://columbus.pm.org/
> Columbus-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>

From metaperl at gmail.com  Wed Apr 28 07:34:48 2010
From: metaperl at gmail.com (Terrence Brannon)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:34:48 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2oa8e52b651004280734p673fe3d0xf8eac57ea112b204@mail.gmail.com>

Also see perlbrew for managing several perls on the same machine

From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 28 07:39:55 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:39:55 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
Message-ID: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com>

probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.

I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
going to happen. I'm too busy.

The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)

What do you all think of those two options?

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
> that preferred?
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>
>> like
>>> which Test::More
>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>
>> That would be cool.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>

From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 28 07:40:42 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:40:42 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <g2oa8e52b651004280734p673fe3d0xf8eac57ea112b204@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<g2oa8e52b651004280734p673fe3d0xf8eac57ea112b204@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2hf7a7c49c1004280740s605efff7v964f08b227fb6cf0@mail.gmail.com>

Managing Perl would be nice. Stuck with what I have. Yah!

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also see perlbrew for managing several perls on the same machine
>

From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 28 07:50:23 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:50:23 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <p2y70384421004280733v414f3ac0rdfcd67d0de05ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<p2y70384421004280733v414f3ac0rdfcd67d0de05ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2pf7a7c49c1004280750n733db9d9pe41ab320485b0796@mail.gmail.com>

nice trick with the version. That's what I wanted any way.

perl -ITest::More -e "print $Test::More::VERSION;" fails more than it succeeds.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rob Kinyon <rob.kinyon at gmail.com> wrote:
> perldoc -l Test::More
>
> also, there's the neat "perl -MTest::More\ 9999 -e1" to tell you the
> installed version.
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>
>> like
>>> which Test::More
>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>
>> That would be cool.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Rob Kinyon
>

From lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com  Wed Apr 28 07:54:05 2010
From: lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com (Len Jaffe)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:54:05 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
In-Reply-To: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2k78e64ca1004280754q67d56654o703957d8ab7c86bf@mail.gmail.com>

Catalyst-based wiki... either self-hosted, or at one of Six Apart's
Properties like VOX....

Len.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.
>
> I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
> was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
> going to happen. I'm too busy.
>
> The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
> interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
> The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
> which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)
>
> What do you all think of those two options?
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
>> that preferred?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>>
>>> like
>>>> which Test::More
>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>>
>>> That would be cool.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Columbus-pm mailing list
> http://columbus.pm.org/
> Columbus-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>



-- 
lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com   614-404-4214
http://www.theycomewithcheese.com/ - An Homage to Fromage
YAPC::NA 2010 in Columbus, OH - June 21-23 - http://yapc2010.com/

From jon at hogue.org  Wed Apr 28 07:55:12 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] May meeting
Message-ID: <l2kf7a7c49c1004280755l766c83dbs47acb72303ae374@mail.gmail.com>

Will be May 20.

Anyone want to give a talk on GIT? Intro to Catalyst? Finding, using,
and writing Catalyst plugins or extensions? Anything else Perl
related? I'm very much interested in Web perl, but anybody doing
anything interesting that's not in the web space?

From alperyilmaz at gmail.com  Wed Apr 28 08:07:00 2010
From: alperyilmaz at gmail.com (Alper Yilmaz)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:07:00 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] Columbus-pm Digest, Vol 29, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6489.1272466548.2577.columbus-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.6489.1272466548.2577.columbus-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <j2odac81b0d1004280807x482e8c1cqb9a89e4391cd5617@mail.gmail.com>

speaking of perl and web, anybody interested in giving talk on Plack
or Dancer, and about their practical use cases..

alper/yilmaz


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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:15:06 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
> To: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>
> like
>> which Test::More
> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>
> That would be cool.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:33:13 -0400
> From: Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib
> To: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<m2ja8e52b651004280733kdee5b0c8xa7a9585e57d39194 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> perl -MData::Dumper -MTest::More -e 'print Dumper \%INC'
>
> you will see $INC{Test::More} pointing to it's location
>
> regards from Boca Raton, FL! perhaps on my way to Memphis, TN!
>
> -- Terrence
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>
>> like
>>> which Test::More
>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>
>> That would be cool.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:33:59 -0400
> From: Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib
> To: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<w2ua8e52b651004280733ldabd1bb0vc3e9c37be0e87b82 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
> that preferred?
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>
>> like
>>> which Test::More
>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>
>> That would be cool.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:34:48 -0400
> From: Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib
> To: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<g2oa8e52b651004280734p673fe3d0xf8eac57ea112b204 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Also see perlbrew for managing several perls on the same machine
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:39:55 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Subject: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
> To: Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.
>
> I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
> was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
> going to happen. I'm too busy.
>
> The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
> interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
> The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
> which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)
>
> What do you all think of those two options?
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
>> that preferred?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>>
>>> like
>>>> which Test::More
>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>>
>>> That would be cool.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:40:42 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib
> To: Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<y2hf7a7c49c1004280740s605efff7v964f08b227fb6cf0 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Managing Perl would be nice. Stuck with what I have. Yah!
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also see perlbrew for managing several perls on the same machine
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:50:23 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib
> To: Rob Kinyon <rob.kinyon at gmail.com>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<g2pf7a7c49c1004280750n733db9d9pe41ab320485b0796 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> nice trick with the version. That's what I wanted any way.
>
> perl -ITest::More -e "print $Test::More::VERSION;" fails more than it succeeds.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rob Kinyon <rob.kinyon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> perldoc -l Test::More
>>
>> also, there's the neat "perl -MTest::More\ 9999 -e1" to tell you the
>> installed version.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>>
>>> like
>>>> which Test::More
>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>>
>>> That would be cool.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Rob Kinyon
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:54:05 -0400
> From: Len Jaffe <lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com>
> Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
> To: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Cc: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<r2k78e64ca1004280754q67d56654o703957d8ab7c86bf at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Catalyst-based wiki... either self-hosted, or at one of Six Apart's
> Properties like VOX....
>
> Len.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.
>>
>> I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
>> was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
>> going to happen. I'm too busy.
>>
>> The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
>> interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
>> The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
>> which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)
>>
>> What do you all think of those two options?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
>>> that preferred?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>> which Test::More
>>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>>>
>>>> That would be cool.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>
>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:55:12 -0400
> From: Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org>
> Subject: [Columbus-pm] May meeting
> To: columbus-pm <columbus-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<l2kf7a7c49c1004280755l766c83dbs47acb72303ae374 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Will be May 20.
>
> Anyone want to give a talk on GIT? Intro to Catalyst? Finding, using,
> and writing Catalyst plugins or extensions? Anything else Perl
> related? I'm very much interested in Web perl, but anybody doing
> anything interesting that's not in the web space?
>
>
> ------------------------------
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>

From smithde at oclc.org  Wed Apr 28 08:16:30 2010
From: smithde at oclc.org (Smith,Devon)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:16:30 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <m2ja8e52b651004280733kdee5b0c8xa7a9585e57d39194@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
	<m2ja8e52b651004280733kdee5b0c8xa7a9585e57d39194@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3DF62041@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>

Long time ago I wrote a script to tell me if a module was installed and
the version. Just modified it to tell me where as well.

/dev
-- 
Devon Smith
Consulting Software Engineer
OCLC Research
http://www.oclc.org/research/people/smith.htm



#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#$# created: 2005-05-11
#$# creator: Devon Smith
#$# description: Determine if/version/where modules are installed on the
system.
my @modules = qw (
	Config::General
	Date::Format
	HTML::Template
	JSON
	Storable
	Template
	YAML
);

my $padding = 0;
map { $padding = length $_ if length $_ > $padding } @modules;
$padding += 5;

for ( @ARGV ) {
	if ( -d $_ ) { # if a parameter is a directory, add it to @INC
		eval "use lib '$_';";
	}
	else { # if it's not a directory, assume it's a module name
		push @modules, $_;
	}
}

for my $t (sort @modules) {
	(my $path = $t) =~ s{::}{/}g;
	$path .= '.pm';
	# for each module, 'use' the module to check for its existence
	# on the system, and get the version of the module, if present.
	my $version;
	eval "use $t; \$version = \$${t}::VERSION || '?';";
	print $@ ? "no ... $t" : "ok ... $t/$version", ' ' x ($padding -
length $t), $INC{$path} ? " >> $INC{$path}" : '', "\n";
}

# vim: ts=4



-----Original Message-----
From: columbus-pm-bounces+smithde=oclc.org at pm.org
[mailto:columbus-pm-bounces+smithde=oclc.org at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Terrence Brannon
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Jonathan Hogue
Cc: columbus-pm
Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib

perl -MData::Dumper -MTest::More -e 'print Dumper \%INC'

you will see $INC{Test::More} pointing to it's location

regards from Boca Raton, FL! perhaps on my way to Memphis, TN!

-- Terrence

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>
> like
>> which Test::More
> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>
> That would be cool.



From jason.l.alexander at jpmchase.com  Wed Apr 28 08:16:36 2010
From: jason.l.alexander at jpmchase.com (Jason L Alexander)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:16:36 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <w2ua8e52b651004280733ldabd1bb0vc3e9c37be0e87b82@mail.gmail.com>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
	<w2ua8e52b651004280733ldabd1bb0vc3e9c37be0e87b82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E90AE03ECD9EF34F850750948FE0EE8F2619467CF9@EMARC122VS01.exchad.jpmchase.net>

It's just the setting, but changeable.

Jason Alexander  Customer Assist  (614) 213-6643 Jason.l.alexander at jpmchase.net


-----Original Message-----
From: columbus-pm-bounces+jason.l.alexander=jpmchase.com at pm.org [mailto:columbus-pm-bounces+jason.l.alexander=jpmchase.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Terrence Brannon
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:34 AM
To: Jonathan Hogue
Cc: columbus-pm
Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib

In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
that preferred?

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>
> like
>> which Test::More
> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>
> That would be cool.
> _______________________________________________
> Columbus-pm mailing list
> http://columbus.pm.org/
> Columbus-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>
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From jason.l.alexander at jpmchase.com  Wed Apr 28 08:23:05 2010
From: jason.l.alexander at jpmchase.com (Jason L Alexander)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:23:05 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] which lib
In-Reply-To: <AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3DF62041@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
References: <g2zf7a7c49c1004280715o8166c998i8486843c6038427e@mail.gmail.com>
	<m2ja8e52b651004280733kdee5b0c8xa7a9585e57d39194@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA3DCFAA4E87BD40BBAA507B1C36CC3DF62041@OAEXCH4SERVER.oa.oclc.org>
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I had a script from Tom Christiansen many years ago that did something similar, I think it was called lsperl or something like that.  

What it did was frustrate me with just how non-standard modules were.  Many didn't have versions or descriptions and the versions were formatted in many ways. 

Jason Alexander

-----Original Message-----
From: Smith,Devon
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:17 AM
To: columbus-pm
Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib

Long time ago I wrote a script to tell me if a module was installed and
the version. Just modified it to tell me where as well.

/dev
-- 
Devon Smith
Consulting Software Engineer
OCLC Research
http://www.oclc.org/research/people/smith.htm



#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#$# created: 2005-05-11
#$# creator: Devon Smith
#$# description: Determine if/version/where modules are installed on the
system.
my @modules = qw (
	Config::General
	Date::Format
	HTML::Template
	JSON
	Storable
	Template
	YAML
);

my $padding = 0;
map { $padding = length $_ if length $_ > $padding } @modules;
$padding += 5;

for ( @ARGV ) {
	if ( -d $_ ) { # if a parameter is a directory, add it to @INC
		eval "use lib '$_';";
	}
	else { # if it's not a directory, assume it's a module name
		push @modules, $_;
	}
}

for my $t (sort @modules) {
	(my $path = $t) =~ s{::}{/}g;
	$path .= '.pm';
	# for each module, 'use' the module to check for its existence
	# on the system, and get the version of the module, if present.
	my $version;
	eval "use $t; \$version = \$${t}::VERSION || '?';";
	print $@ ? "no ... $t" : "ok ... $t/$version", ' ' x ($padding -
length $t), $INC{$path} ? " >> $INC{$path}" : '', "\n";
}

# vim: ts=4



-----Original Message-----
From: columbus-pm-bounces+smithde=oclc.org at pm.org
[mailto:columbus-pm-bounces+smithde=oclc.org at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Terrence Brannon
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Jonathan Hogue
Cc: columbus-pm
Subject: Re: [Columbus-pm] which lib

perl -MData::Dumper -MTest::More -e 'print Dumper \%INC'

you will see $INC{Test::More} pointing to it's location

regards from Boca Raton, FL! perhaps on my way to Memphis, TN!

-- Terrence

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>
> like
>> which Test::More
> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>
> That would be cool.


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From neilostrove at gmail.com  Wed Apr 28 11:04:25 2010
From: neilostrove at gmail.com (Neil Ostrove)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:04:25 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm]  which lib
Message-ID: <u2v1d81a9d31004281104o2917377asb80480bd149168ed@mail.gmail.com>

   This should do what you want.
---
$ perldoc -l Test::More
/usr/local/perl5/lib/5.8.4/Test/More.pm
---
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From shane at lottadot.com  Wed Apr 28 16:32:23 2010
From: shane at lottadot.com (Shane Zatezalo)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:32:23 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
In-Reply-To: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com>
References: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20F1BF50-619E-4392-B6FF-0C4C5EF248D5@lottadot.com>

I'd use google groups for discussion; it lets people use a web interface or their email, their choice. And it's free.
Then meetup.com for the meetings. It's free. We use meetup for our NSCoder meetings and it has worked out well. And it seems to be "viewable" so people are finding our meetings and new people are attending. You can also easily subscribe to the ical/ics files from meetup so you can get the meetings into your calendar app of your choice in a snap (and/or phone,too). For me, if I don't have something in my calendar, I'll never remember about it. And if it's a PITA to get on my calendar, well then forget about it.
I'd create a generic website for columbus-pm (personally, anymore, for such things, I like RapidWeaver, it's quickndirty, but it's OSX only) that contains minimal info and points to GG/meetup. Extra points to put it up on github so that we can contribute to it via a git push.

Shane

On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Hogue wrote:

> probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.
> 
> I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
> was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
> going to happen. I'm too busy.
> 
> The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
> interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
> The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
> which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)
> 
> What do you all think of those two options?
> 
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
>> that preferred?
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>> 
>>> like
>>>> which Test::More
>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>> 
>>> That would be cool.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Columbus-pm mailing list
> http://columbus.pm.org/
> Columbus-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm


From jon at hogue.org  Fri Apr 30 11:30:11 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 14:30:11 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
In-Reply-To: <r2k78e64ca1004280754q67d56654o703957d8ab7c86bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com> 
	<r2k78e64ca1004280754q67d56654o703957d8ab7c86bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h2nf7a7c49c1004301130k61afe742wcd0531fa9850ed42@mail.gmail.com>

This is perl based. It seems really fast. (can't say the same for mojomojo)

http://ikiwiki.info/

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Len Jaffe <lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com> wrote:
> Catalyst-based wiki... either self-hosted, or at one of Six Apart's
> Properties like VOX....
>
> Len.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.
>>
>> I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
>> was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
>> going to happen. I'm too busy.
>>
>> The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
>> interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
>> The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
>> which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)
>>
>> What do you all think of those two options?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
>>> that preferred?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>> which Test::More
>>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>>>
>>>> That would be cool.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com ? 614-404-4214
> http://www.theycomewithcheese.com/ - An Homage to Fromage
> YAPC::NA 2010 in Columbus, OH - June 21-23 - http://yapc2010.com/
>

From jon at hogue.org  Fri Apr 30 13:52:13 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:52:13 -0400
Subject: [Columbus-pm] PM Site and mailing list was "which lib"
In-Reply-To: <r2k78e64ca1004280754q67d56654o703957d8ab7c86bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <k2hf7a7c49c1004280739t3220d622s8135185722c87d76@mail.gmail.com> 
	<r2k78e64ca1004280754q67d56654o703957d8ab7c86bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2if7a7c49c1004301352teef5a462ia6703f61d009b1e8@mail.gmail.com>

http://twiki.org/ This looks like a winner. Perl based, calendar, wiki, etc.

Meetup.com is not free. Monthly subscription. But as long as we plug
into tech columbus meetup, we get the same exposure.


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Len Jaffe <lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com> wrote:
> Catalyst-based wiki... either self-hosted, or at one of Six Apart's
> Properties like VOX....
>
> Len.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>> probably not, but I'm not sure it's within our control.
>>
>> I am interested in changing the sw for the pm site. drupal is okay...
>> was interested in throwing up a custom catalyst site, but that's never
>> going to happen. I'm too busy.
>>
>> The python group is using meetup for all it's coordination. That's an
>> interesting choice, since it is good marketing.
>> The ruby group is using google groups (which includes a mailing list,
>> which we don't need, but would give us control over this option.)
>>
>> What do you all think of those two options?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Terrence Brannon <metaperl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In other news, replies go to the author, not hte list by default... is
>>> that preferred?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to effectively do a unix "which" on a perl library.
>>>>
>>>> like
>>>>> which Test::More
>>>> /usr/local/perl5/lib/Test/More.pm
>>>>
>>>> That would be cool.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>>>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>>>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Columbus-pm mailing list
>> http://columbus.pm.org/
>> Columbus-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/columbus-pm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> lenjaffe at jaffesystems.com ? 614-404-4214
> http://www.theycomewithcheese.com/ - An Homage to Fromage
> YAPC::NA 2010 in Columbus, OH - June 21-23 - http://yapc2010.com/
>