[Columbus-pm] Lead Perl Developer

Jonathan Hogue jon at hogue.org
Thu Jul 19 07:50:31 PDT 2007


That's a good point.

It would be near impossible to sell a Perl solution where I work, but when
we're in a crunch and it saves the day, no one seems to mind.


On 7/19/07, Chuck Day <Chuck.Day at s1te.com> wrote:
>
> I've been one of perl guys that are forced to use other crappy tools and
> languages.
> However when something needs "done" I can always knock it out in perl
> before they
> can have a meeting about what high priced tool to use.  Forget about how
> much time
> and money we're wasting talking about it.  I've even stuped to using a
> .asp
> extension for a couple perl apps.  Just added this to apache:
>
> AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .asp
>
> I have absolutely no objection to jobs being posted here.
>
> Charles
>
>
> >
> > On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Hogue wrote:
> >
> >> good discussion. I was having this same conversationon the side.
> >>
> >> To me, there's two points. perl's bit of a dieing language. ie,
> >> most new projects are in Java, .net or maybe Ruby. Most companies
> >> that do perl are in a containment mode or are in the process of
> >> converting to some other technology. And a lot of the talent that
> >> used to do Perl are now doing other things (java, .net, Ruby or
> >> something completely different).
> >
> > Sometimes I ponder on that "dieing" thing. One doesn't see too many
> > perl articles on dzone, digg, etc. But is that because the other
> > languages don't have things like local perl monger's groups (I know
> > CMH has a Ruby group now), perl Monks, use.perl and the best tool of
> > all cpan? How many of those other languages that are always being
> > blogged about have the vast resources that cpan gives perl, available
> > to them - now?? Or is it because instead of blogging about 10
> > different variations of the same simple sets of ruby/php code, people
> > are actually just coding away in Perl instead of blogging about it?
> >
> > I guess it all depends on where you work. Some places are Perl shops.
> > Some vb, .net, rails, java, c, whatever. Each has many frameworks,
> > that different shops choose (or not) to use.
> >
> >> I haven't worked in Perl in over 2 years. My experience is out
> >> dated. So most perl interviews are a waste of time because they end
> >> up being dead ends.
> >
> > But how many years did you spend coding in it? How fast, if you
> > wanted to, do you think you could "pick it up again"?
> >
> >> Also, because Perl is being used less and less in application
> >> development projects, and by doing Perl development I'm missing
> >> opportunities to learn more marketable technologies, it's a bit of
> >> a dead end career move to.
> >
> > I think it depends on where you work. But most places I've worked -
> > learn something new? 'Do it on your own time.' Then they don't
> > understand why you get hired away at a larger salary because you know
> > more and you're more valuable. Hmmm. Seems like a pattern to me, but
> > what do I know? ;) (as I pickup another programming book)
> >
> >>  That doesn't mean that I won't take Perl positions, but I look to
> >> be paid a premium ($150-300 an hour) to even consider going through
> >> the interview process and jumping into a position whose main
> >> benefit is the pay.
> >
> > Heh, I've never been paid to consider/go through an interview
> > process. My hats off to ya :)
> >
> >   Shane
> >
> >
> >
> >>
>
>
>
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Jonathan Hogue
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