[Columbus-pm] Lead Perl Developer

[shane]

On Jul 18, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Jonathan Hogue wrote:

> good discussion. I was having this same conversationon the side.
>
> To me, there's two points. perl's bit of a dieing language. ie,  
> most new projects are in Java, .net or maybe Ruby. Most companies  
> that do perl are in a containment mode or are in the process of  
> converting to some other technology. And a lot of the talent that  
> used to do Perl are now doing other things (java, .net, Ruby or  
> something completely different).

Sometimes I ponder on that "dieing" thing. One doesn't see too many  
perl articles on dzone, digg, etc. But is that because the other  
languages don't have things like local perl monger's groups (I know  
CMH has a Ruby group now), perl Monks, use.perl and the best tool of  
all cpan? How many of those other languages that are always being  
blogged about have the vast resources that cpan gives perl, available  
to them - now?? Or is it because instead of blogging about 10  
different variations of the same simple sets of ruby/php code, people  
are actually just coding away in Perl instead of blogging about it?

I guess it all depends on where you work. Some places are Perl shops.  
Some vb, .net, rails, java, c, whatever. Each has many frameworks,  
that different shops choose (or not) to use.

> I haven't worked in Perl in over 2 years. My experience is out  
> dated. So most perl interviews are a waste of time because they end  
> up being dead ends.

But how many years did you spend coding in it? How fast, if you  
wanted to, do you think you could "pick it up again"?

> Also, because Perl is being used less and less in application  
> development projects, and by doing Perl development I'm missing  
> opportunities to learn more marketable technologies, it's a bit of  
> a dead end career move to.

I think it depends on where you work. But most places I've worked -  
learn something new? 'Do it on your own time.' Then they don't  
understand why you get hired away at a larger salary because you know  
more and you're more valuable. Hmmm. Seems like a pattern to me, but  
what do I know? ;) (as I pickup another programming book)

>  That doesn't mean that I won't take Perl positions, but I look to  
> be paid a premium ($150-300 an hour) to even consider going through  
> the interview process and jumping into a position whose main  
> benefit is the pay.

Heh, I've never been paid to consider/go through an interview  
process. My hats off to ya :)

  Shane



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> On 7/18/07, shane <shane at lottadot.com> wrote:
> Ok, thanks.
>
>
> Well, I guess I'll just speak up. My reason for asking about the  
> salary was slightly two-fold. I've heard of two people who "know  
> their stuff" in Columbus being hired, starting in the 90's, this  
> past month, for Perl programming. Yours is the second job posting  
> in a week that I've been emailed about that wants someone who knows  
> their stuff, would only do Perl, is advertising in the 80's and is  
> having problems finding someone. These were guys who had a few  
> years experience, not 7,10 or 15 like some of may around here. But  
> they are good.
>
>
> I'm not trying to diss on your parade by mentioning the above, nor  
> start a salary-flame-war (is there such a thing? probably if I  
> google it) but rather (bluntly) point out your range may be too  
> low.  And like HOGUEJ, I would rather see people sending job  
> postings to the Columbus-pm when they're local here (rather than  
> make you wade through the perljobs listserv which seems to rarely  
> have Ohio jobs in it).
>
>
> Good luck,
>  Shane
>
>
>
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> On Jul 18, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Scott Blickhan wrote:
>
>> Thanks Shane –
>>
>> The salary range would be in the mid to upper 80's total  
>> compensation for a strong candidate.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> Salary range they are offering would be most helpful here. It'd  
>> show what level of "Lead Perl Developer" they're really wanting vs  
>> willing to pay for.
>>
>>
>>  Shane
>>
>>
>>
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