From chris at theconceited.com Sun Feb 1 17:35:47 2004 From: chris at theconceited.com (chris) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> Greetings everyone, My name is Chris, I'm a new subscriber to the list, and a computer science student up here at Youngstown State University. Theres a disappointing lack of Linux, Perl, and similar groups here on campus, despite a widespread acceptance of these technologies within the computer science dept. I've had some dealings with the Ohio Supercomputer Center(they brought us a cluster last fall), which has led me to realize that there is in fact a LOT going on with computer science down in Columbus....which led me to your group :) I've read on your site that you are working on some projects as a group? I consider myself to be a beginner when it comes to Perl, however I would very much be interested in contributing in some small way if possible. Something to help me "get my feet wet" in Perl, since we're only using it in a limited way in my clases. Basically, I'd like to be as active as I can within your PM group as I can without physically being in Columbus, as we have no such group up here in NE Ohio. Thanks in advance for any help you offer, I look forward to working with you all! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Mon Feb 2 06:49:16 2004 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers Message-ID: <20040202124916.59036.qmail@mail.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: chris Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 18:35:47 -0500 > Greetings everyone, > > My name is Chris, I'm a new subscriber to the list, and a computer science > student up here at Youngstown State University. Welcome aboard Chris. You'll find us to be a small but enthusiastic group. You just missed our last "meeting" which featured a small presentation on the DBI/DBD modules, lots of friendly chit-chat, and tiny sausages. Thanks are due to John Hogue for hosting our little soiree. Thanks John. Yours, Len. -- Len Jaffe LenJaffe@JaffeSystems.com Leonard A. Jaffe Computer Systems Consulting Ltd. Columbus, OH, USA - 614-404-4214 -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Mon Feb 2 23:21:16 2004 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> Message-ID: <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Welcome Chris! I live in Columbus and can't even get to a meeting:) Always end up with tickets to something, or wife works that night or some crapola. How did the house work out guys? I'll volunteer ours up for the next meeting if it went well. We're wirelessed. So Chris, what do you want to work on? Share with us your sororities and we'll share our, umm what do we have again? > Greetings everyone, > > My name is Chris, I'm a new subscriber to the list, and a computer science > student up here at Youngstown State University. Theres a disappointing > lack of Linux, Perl, and similar groups here on campus, despite a > widespread acceptance of these technologies within the computer science > dept. I've had some dealings with the Ohio Supercomputer Center(they > brought us a cluster last fall), which has led me to realize that there is > in fact a LOT going on with computer science down in Columbus....which led > me to your group :) > > I've read on your site that you are working on some projects as a group? I > consider myself to be a beginner when it comes to Perl, however I would > very much be interested in contributing in some small way if > possible. Something to help me "get my feet wet" in Perl, since we're > only using it in a limited way in my clases. Basically, I'd like to be as > active as I can within your PM group as I can without physically being in > Columbus, as we have no such group up here in NE Ohio. > > Thanks in advance for any help you offer, I look forward to working with > you all! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at hogue.org Tue Feb 3 07:20:57 2004 From: jon at hogue.org (jon@hogue.org) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Message-ID: <1075814457.401fa03946ce2@webmail.olicentral.com> Hi Chris! Welcome to the list. You could always start a youngstown pm group. We could even join the groups on occasion for special events or big name guest speakers. The house wasn't great. It was okay. I think maybe I'll just break down and put up the bucks for the public room at Scottie's. It sucks that they started charing for it, but after trying out ever other option, it seems like a good value. Maybe, we could ask for a donation of $3 or something to recoup some of the cost of the room. If I could gauruntee 10-20 people, it would be interesting to try and get Mark Jason Dominius to come down to Columbus. His talks were great in improving my Perl code. I would need lots of help recruiting people to come see him for that. Maybe we could do a Saturday or something and ask him to do a half day on refacturing or something. I've talked to him before, and he's willing to come talk at PM functions for a plane ticket and lodging (prefers to stay at someone's house or youth hostel). Perhaps, I could get someone to do an intro to Perl for the first half of the day. Jim Corder might do it, and he's local. That way, we could attract new blood to the group. --jon Quoting Charles Day : > Welcome Chris! I live in Columbus and can't even get to a meeting:) Always > end up > with tickets to something, or wife works that night or some crapola. How > did the > house work out guys? I'll volunteer ours up for the next meeting if it went > well. > We're wirelessed. So Chris, what do you want to work on? Share with us > your > sororities and we'll share our, umm what do we have again? > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > My name is Chris, I'm a new subscriber to the list, and a computer > science > > student up here at Youngstown State University. Theres a disappointing > > lack of Linux, Perl, and similar groups here on campus, despite a > > widespread acceptance of these technologies within the computer science > > dept. I've had some dealings with the Ohio Supercomputer Center(they > > brought us a cluster last fall), which has led me to realize that there > is > > in fact a LOT going on with computer science down in Columbus....which > led > > me to your group :) > > > > I've read on your site that you are working on some projects as a group? > I > > consider myself to be a beginner when it comes to Perl, however I would > > very much be interested in contributing in some small way if > > possible. Something to help me "get my feet wet" in Perl, since we're > > only using it in a limited way in my clases. Basically, I'd like to be > as > > active as I can within your PM group as I can without physically being in > > Columbus, as we have no such group up here in NE Ohio. > > > > Thanks in advance for any help you offer, I look forward to working with > > you all! > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to > columbus-pm-list@pm.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with > unsubscribe columbus-pm-list > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris at theconceited.com Thu Feb 5 01:54:25 2004 From: chris at theconceited.com (chris) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <1075814457.401fa03946ce2@webmail.olicentral.com> References: <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> Thanks for the quick responses, John, you're not related to a Bob Hogue who teaches at YSU are you? He's the prof. for my E-commerce class(Perl, PHP, MYSql), sure would be a big coincidence to run into two Hogues in Ohio who are involved with Perl! My sororities? Like i said, I'm mostly looking to educate myself about Perl as much as possible. I would say my interests lie very much in creating Perl scripts for use in Linux/UNIX administration, things alone those lines. I have had an idea about creating a Perl script that will store the cookies with all password and username data for any websites I use on my USB pen drive, and to automatically send this information to the browser whenever the drive is plugged into a computer, and I have surfed to one of the pages with cookie information stored. Obviously, this would have the end result of making all of my information completely portable, so I could use e-bay, amazon, or whatever else I needed from any computer with an internet connection, without needing to remember a thing. The next step would be to make sure this is all done securely...but simply having all of this information on a different physical location then your harddrive would be a huge advantage security-wise i would think. No way for you to steal my information if its not plugged in :-D Of course my prof(Dr. Hogue!) has suggested to me that it may flat out be impossible to do this using closed-source browsers like IE, and I'll need to learn more about cookies...which will be coming in the next 10 weeks or so. As far as a YSU PM chapter...I've thought about starting up that, or a Linux users group here. My conclusion is that at the moment, I don't feel like I know enough myself to really take the point on such a group...besides the fact that with 17 credit hours and a part-time job, I'm too busy for it. I was thinking that perhaps by participating in groups like yours, and general tinkering I might feel comfortable enough in these areas to start a group next fall for whoevers interested. Don't want to form a group and have 6 of us sitting in a room asking each other "so, what do we do NOW?" I have a lot of relatives in Columbus, so I actually do come there fairly often. I'm sure I'll end up making it to one of your meetings sooner or later. Out of curiosity: why so little content on the website? Has anyone thought of putting a forum up there? I'm sure all of you have had experience installing/running forums like PHPBB, but if the only reason for there being one is that noone has felt like it, I would be more then willing to give it a shot. Heck, building a forum might make a good spring break project! At 05:20 AM 2/3/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Chris! Welcome to the list. You could always start a youngstown pm group. >We could even join the groups on occasion for special events or big name >guest >speakers. > >The house wasn't great. It was okay. I think maybe I'll just break down and >put up the bucks for the public room at Scottie's. It sucks that they started >charing for it, but after trying out ever other option, it seems like a good >value. Maybe, we could ask for a donation of $3 or something to recoup >some of >the cost of the room. > >If I could gauruntee 10-20 people, it would be interesting to try and get >Mark >Jason Dominius to come down to Columbus. His talks were great in improving my >Perl code. I would need lots of help recruiting people to come see him for >that. > >Maybe we could do a Saturday or something and ask him to do a half day on >refacturing or something. I've talked to him before, and he's willing to come >talk at PM functions for a plane ticket and lodging (prefers to stay at >someone's house or youth hostel). > >Perhaps, I could get someone to do an intro to Perl for the first half of the >day. Jim Corder might do it, and he's local. That way, we could attract new >blood to the group. > >--jon > >Quoting Charles Day : > > > Welcome Chris! I live in Columbus and can't even get to a > meeting:) Always > > end up > > with tickets to something, or wife works that night or some crapola. How > > did the > > house work out guys? I'll volunteer ours up for the next meeting if it > went > > well. > > We're wirelessed. So Chris, what do you want to work on? Share with us > > your > > sororities and we'll share our, umm what do we have again? > > > > > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > > > My name is Chris, I'm a new subscriber to the list, and a computer > > science > > > student up here at Youngstown State University. Theres a disappointing > > > lack of Linux, Perl, and similar groups here on campus, despite a > > > widespread acceptance of these technologies within the computer science > > > dept. I've had some dealings with the Ohio Supercomputer Center(they > > > brought us a cluster last fall), which has led me to realize that there > > is > > > in fact a LOT going on with computer science down in Columbus....which > > led > > > me to your group :) > > > > > > I've read on your site that you are working on some projects as a group? > > I > > > consider myself to be a beginner when it comes to Perl, however I would > > > very much be interested in contributing in some small way if > > > possible. Something to help me "get my feet wet" in Perl, since we're > > > only using it in a limited way in my clases. Basically, I'd like to be > > as > > > active as I can within your PM group as I can without physically being in > > > Columbus, as we have no such group up here in NE Ohio. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help you offer, I look forward to working with > > > you all! > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to > > columbus-pm-list@pm.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with > > unsubscribe columbus-pm-list > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to >columbus-pm-list@pm.org > >To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with >unsubscribe columbus-pm-list >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at hogue.org Thu Feb 5 08:12:46 2004 From: jon at hogue.org (jon@hogue.org) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> References: <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> Message-ID: <1075990366.40224f5e49420@webmail.olicentral.com> Quoting chris : > Thanks for the quick responses, > > John, you're not related to a Bob Hogue who teaches at YSU are you? He's > the prof. for my E-commerce class(Perl, PHP, MYSql), sure would be a big > coincidence to run into two Hogues in Ohio who are involved with Perl! My grandpa's name was Bob, a bit of a family name. There are a ton of Hogue's about an hour northeast of Youngstown in the Oil City. If we're related, it's distant :-) > As far as a YSU PM chapter...I've thought about starting up that, or a > Linux users group here. My conclusion is that at the moment, I don't feel > like I know enough myself to really take the point on such a > group...besides the fact that with 17 credit hours and a part-time job, I'm > > too busy for it. I understand the busy part. However, you don't have to have the technology expertise. I heavily rely on our knowledgeable members to present. I mostly just coordinate the meetings (sometimes better than others :-) > I have a lot of relatives in Columbus, so I actually do come there fairly > often. I'm sure I'll end up making it to one of your meetings sooner or > later. Out of curiosity: why so little content on the website? Has > anyone thought of putting a forum up there? I'm sure all of you have had > experience installing/running forums like PHPBB, but if the only reason for > > there being one is that noone has felt like it, I would be more then > willing to give it a shot. Heck, building a forum might make a good spring > > break project! Yah... good idea. We would have to setup another host. pm.org doesn't support cgi, just flat html. There are a couple of perl based forumns already written out there. We certainly could extend one of those implementations (it's almost always easier to extend than write from scratch). BTW, Charles, can you send me and Leonard the columbus.pm.org login info? We would like to make some changes as well.... Anybody have some server space they'd like to donate towards hosting the cgi for our pm site? ie, a forumn? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Thu Feb 5 08:34:52 2004 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> References: <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM><5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com><1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> Message-ID: <2433.207.54.40.9.1075991692.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Yes, you're going to have security issues with your cookie idea. You're not considering how easily your convenient cookie can be exploited. This is why IE puts strict rules on cookies per domain. M$ tried/trying your concept with passport, but webmasters have to adopt it per website, so it will never become a standard. Our forum is this email distribution list. I've used web forums for various corporate and personal solutions, and they never work well because you're adding a second layer. You have to be notified via an email, then log into a webpage, then post. Oh wait, what was my login again? However, you are correct, our website does need something. A new project perhaps? Any ideas anyone? > Thanks for the quick responses, > > John, you're not related to a Bob Hogue who teaches at YSU are you? He's > the prof. for my E-commerce class(Perl, PHP, MYSql), sure would be a big > coincidence to run into two Hogues in Ohio who are involved with Perl! > > My sororities? Like i said, I'm mostly looking to educate myself about > Perl as much as possible. I would say my interests lie very much in > creating Perl scripts for use in Linux/UNIX administration, things alone > those lines. I have had an idea about creating a Perl script that will > store the cookies with all password and username data for any websites I > use on my USB pen drive, and to automatically send this information to the > browser whenever the drive is plugged into a computer, and I have surfed to > one of the pages with cookie information stored. Obviously, this would > have the end result of making all of my information completely portable, so > I could use e-bay, amazon, or whatever else I needed from any computer with > an internet connection, without needing to remember a thing. The next step > would be to make sure this is all done securely...but simply having all of > this information on a different physical location then your harddrive would > be a huge advantage security-wise i would think. No way for you to steal > my information if its not plugged in :-D > > Of course my prof(Dr. Hogue!) has suggested to me that it may flat out be > impossible to do this using closed-source browsers like IE, and I'll need > to learn more about cookies...which will be coming in the next 10 weeks or so. > > As far as a YSU PM chapter...I've thought about starting up that, or a > Linux users group here. My conclusion is that at the moment, I don't feel > like I know enough myself to really take the point on such a > group...besides the fact that with 17 credit hours and a part-time job, I'm > too busy for it. I was thinking that perhaps by participating in groups > like yours, and general tinkering I might feel comfortable enough in these > areas to start a group next fall for whoevers interested. Don't want to > form a group and have 6 of us sitting in a room asking each other "so, what > do we do NOW?" > > I have a lot of relatives in Columbus, so I actually do come there fairly > often. I'm sure I'll end up making it to one of your meetings sooner or > later. Out of curiosity: why so little content on the website? Has > anyone thought of putting a forum up there? I'm sure all of you have had > experience installing/running forums like PHPBB, but if the only reason for > there being one is that noone has felt like it, I would be more then > willing to give it a shot. Heck, building a forum might make a good spring > break project! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From smithde at oclc.org Thu Feb 5 09:41:23 2004 From: smithde at oclc.org (Smith,Devon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers Message-ID: > A new project perhaps? Any ideas anyone? When it comes to ideas, itch scratching is the best way to go. Here are some of my itches. This is something that I've already started working on, but have written all of it in bash. It's sort of an expense tracking system. At the end of the day, I enter how much I spent and what I spent it on. I have sinks like Grocery, SalesTax, DineOut and Entertainment. I have a simple console entry system, and a simple console reporting system, although I have been playing around with gnu's plotutils package to make some graphs. I've been thinking of rewriting it in perl, but just haven't. For the past few years I've been collecting information as I've come across it. Lots and lots of things, like - a complete list of coutry-code top level domains - a complete list of the three letter airport codes - song lyrics - famous speeches - articles - technical info, like character set tables - maps - all the state and national flags - state congressional districts - etc, etc, etc. It's very much like a personal, build-as-I-go encyclopedia. It's very poorly organized though. Currently, it's just a few directories of html and jpegs. I've been thinking for a while that I'd like to write an app to facilitate the collection, organization, discovery and presentation of the information. One interesting aspect of such an app might be peer-to-peer sharing. Most of the stuff I have is just plain factual, and as such not copyrightable. Somewhat related to the last idea, I'd like to have a simple inventory/catalog app for my books/movies/cds/mp3s/imgs etc. Ideally, it would be able to get partial records from other sources, like from imdb for movies and freedb for cds. This one has a lot of potential in the peer-to-peer arena as well. So, those are my ideas. /dev -- Devon Smith Software Engineer, Office of Research OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc http://www.oclc.org/research/ http://www.oclc.org/research/staff/smith.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Day [mailto:Charles.Day@s1te.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:35 AM > To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers > > > Yes, you're going to have security issues with your cookie > idea. You're not > considering how easily your convenient cookie can be > exploited. This is why IE puts > strict rules on cookies per domain. M$ tried/trying your > concept with passport, but > webmasters have to adopt it per website, so it will never > become a standard. > > Our forum is this email distribution list. I've used web > forums for various > corporate and personal solutions, and they never work well > because you're adding a > second layer. You have to be notified via an email, then log > into a webpage, then > post. Oh wait, what was my login again? > > However, you are correct, our website does need something. A > new project perhaps? > Any ideas anyone? > > > > > Thanks for the quick responses, > > > > John, you're not related to a Bob Hogue who teaches at YSU > are you? He's > > the prof. for my E-commerce class(Perl, PHP, MYSql), sure > would be a big > > coincidence to run into two Hogues in Ohio who are involved > with Perl! > > > > My sororities? Like i said, I'm mostly looking to educate > myself about > > Perl as much as possible. I would say my interests lie very much in > > creating Perl scripts for use in Linux/UNIX administration, > things alone > > those lines. I have had an idea about creating a Perl > script that will > > store the cookies with all password and username data for > any websites I > > use on my USB pen drive, and to automatically send this > information to the > > browser whenever the drive is plugged into a computer, and > I have surfed to > > one of the pages with cookie information stored. > Obviously, this would > > have the end result of making all of my information > completely portable, so > > I could use e-bay, amazon, or whatever else I needed from > any computer with > > an internet connection, without needing to remember a > thing. The next step > > would be to make sure this is all done securely...but > simply having all of > > this information on a different physical location then your > harddrive would > > be a huge advantage security-wise i would think. No way > for you to steal > > my information if its not plugged in :-D > > > > Of course my prof(Dr. Hogue!) has suggested to me that it > may flat out be > > impossible to do this using closed-source browsers like IE, > and I'll need > > to learn more about cookies...which will be coming in the > next 10 weeks or so. > > > > As far as a YSU PM chapter...I've thought about starting up > that, or a > > Linux users group here. My conclusion is that at the > moment, I don't feel > > like I know enough myself to really take the point on such a > > group...besides the fact that with 17 credit hours and a > part-time job, I'm > > too busy for it. I was thinking that perhaps by > participating in groups > > like yours, and general tinkering I might feel comfortable > enough in these > > areas to start a group next fall for whoevers interested. > Don't want to > > form a group and have 6 of us sitting in a room asking each > other "so, what > > do we do NOW?" > > > > I have a lot of relatives in Columbus, so I actually do > come there fairly > > often. I'm sure I'll end up making it to one of your > meetings sooner or > > later. Out of curiosity: why so little content on the > website? Has > > anyone thought of putting a forum up there? I'm sure all > of you have had > > experience installing/running forums like PHPBB, but if the > only reason for > > there being one is that noone has felt like it, I would be more then > > willing to give it a shot. Heck, building a forum might > make a good spring > > break project! > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to > columbus-pm-list@pm.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with > unsubscribe columbus-pm-list > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Thu Feb 5 11:49:24 2004 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <1075990366.40224f5e49420@webmail.olicentral.com> References: <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> <1075990366.40224f5e49420@webmail.olicentral.com> Message-ID: <1885.207.54.40.9.1076003364.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> http://www.s1te.com/ currently donates space for the existing site, specifically the email distribution list archive. We'll gladly support any perl/php/dbi application the group can come up with. Charles > > Anybody have some server space they'd like to donate towards hosting the cgi > for our pm site? ie, a forumn? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Thu Feb 5 12:26:41 2004 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/columbus-pm/attachments/20040205/f186afbb/attachment.htm From Charles.Day at s1te.com Fri Feb 6 08:27:58 2004 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1166.65.60.233.254.1076077678.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> > This is something that I've already started working on, but have written all > of it in bash. It's sort of an expense tracking system. At the end of the > day, I enter how much I spent and what I spent it on. I have sinks like > Grocery, SalesTax, DineOut and > Entertainment. I have a simple console entry system, and a simple console > reporting system, although I have been playing around with gnu's plotutils > package to make some graphs. I've been thinking of rewriting it in perl, but > just haven't. I just started this too, but use Excel. I use Excel's function to calculate average monthly expenses based on categories, such as food, gas, clothing, etc. Gives me a good method to predict the upcoming months. I've cut these variable expenses from $1200 to $900 in just one month. Real cool. I always thought it was the fixed expenses that were the problem (mortgage, electric, etc). C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris at theconceited.com Fri Feb 6 20:47:16 2004 From: chris at theconceited.com (chris) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <2433.207.54.40.9.1075991692.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20040206213747.01fdac68@theconceited.com> An idea just hit me for a project...perhaps some of you can advise me on the feasibility of it. Right now I am searching through the databases of the YSU Maag library, the Mahoning County public library system, and OhioLink(sure you're all familiar with that one). The frustrating thing is that I am searching for the same set of books at each. While Maagnet and Ohiolink overlap a bit, its not enough to be useful(mostly, it just yells at me on Ohiolink when i look for a book that Maag has...and refuses to let me request it). If I could build a small program to search through all 3 web-based databases, it would be very useful. If I could build it in such a way that I could easily add new sites to its searches, that would be really, really useful(like say, return listings on Amazon if nothing can be found in the library systems). Doesn't seem like something all that complicated, but again I'm a newbie so perhaps the project is deceptively simple? On a somewhat related note: any computer-related books you perl-mongers would recommend? Not technical how-to's, bur rather stuff that might be called "informative entertainment." To give an idea, my recent reading list is "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Clifford Stoll, "Just for Fun" by Linus Torvalds, "Cyberpunk," and "Rebel Code." I think "The Mythical Man-Month" will probably be next, its referenced so much in the other books. >However, you are correct, our website does need something. A new project >perhaps? >Any ideas anyone? > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to >columbus-pm-list@pm.org > >To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with >unsubscribe columbus-pm-list >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jborisch at columbus.rr.com Fri Feb 6 21:38:58 2004 From: jborisch at columbus.rr.com (jeff borisch) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20040206213747.01fdac68@theconceited.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040201182416.023089a8@theconceited.com> <1133.65.60.233.254.1075785676.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> <5.1.0.14.0.20040205024110.0202d370@theconceited.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20040206213747.01fdac68@theconceited.com> Message-ID: > >On a somewhat related note: any computer-related books you >perl-mongers would recommend? Not technical how-to's, bur rather >stuff that might be called "informative entertainment." To give an >idea, my recent reading list is "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Clifford >Stoll, "Just for Fun" by Linus Torvalds, "Cyberpunk," and "Rebel >Code." I liked "Out of Their Minds". It's a dozen or so biographies of Pretty Famous computer scientist type folks. I'm reading one called Computing Before Computers, It's all about punched card tabulating machines, Babbage and Leibniz, and analog devices that model natural phenomena, that sort of thing. --jeffb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Sat Feb 7 21:16:23 2004 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers Message-ID: <20040208031623.682D51340A0@ws1-88.us4.outblaze.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: chris Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 21:47:16 -0500 To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers > On a somewhat related note: any computer-related books you perl-mongers > would recommend? Not technical how-to's, bur rather stuff that might be > called "informative entertainment." To give an idea, my recent reading > list is "The Cuckoo's Egg" by Clifford Stoll, "Just for Fun" by Linus > Torvalds, "Cyberpunk," and "Rebel Code." > > I think "The Mythical Man-Month" will probably be next, its referenced so > much in the other books. Man month is good. Skip Stoll's second book "Silicon Snake Oil" Its opinion rather than narrative. Look for: Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling. Hackers by Stephen Levy In the beginning...was the command line by Neil Gaimon Len. --- Len Jaffe LenJaffe@JaffeSystems.com Leonard A. Jaffe Computer Systems Consulting Ltd Columbus, OH, USA 614-404-4214 -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From smithde at oclc.org Mon Feb 9 13:03:42 2004 From: smithde at oclc.org (Smith,Devon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:17 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Greetings all you Columbus Perl Mongers Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: chris > > An idea just hit me for a project...perhaps some of you can > advise me on the feasibility of it. Right now I am searching through the > databases of the YSU Maag library, the Mahoning County public library system, and > OhioLink(sure you're all familiar with that one). The frustrating thing is that I am > searching for the same set of books at each. While Maagnet and Ohiolink overlap > a bit, its not enough to be useful(mostly, it just yells at me on Ohiolink when > i look for a book that Maag has...and refuses to let me request it). If I could > build a small program to search through all 3 web-based databases, it would be very > useful. If I could build it in such a way that I could easily add new sites to > its searches, that would be really, really useful(like say, return listings on > Amazon if nothing can be found in the library systems). > > Doesn't seem like something all that complicated, but again > I'm a newbie so perhaps the project is deceptively simple? What you're describing is called federated searching. http://www.google.com/search?q=federated+searching You could probably get something to meet your needs up and running pretty quickly. With each database you want to search, though, it becomes more complicated. One of the bigger issues is deduping the result set. I've been working on a related issue, and the problems arise when you have to work with metadata records in all different formats using different semantics. /dev -- Devon Smith Software Engineer, Office of Research OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc http://www.oclc.org/research/ http://www.oclc.org/research/staff/smith.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list -----------------------------------------------------------------------