From lenjaffe at mail.com Mon Jan 6 10:44:09 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:08 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo Message-ID: <20030106164409.66481.qmail@mail.com> I know it isn't politically correct to say this, but there's more to Columbus than the Buckeyes. I still think our logo should have a cow motif. Maybe a cow in a camel costume, or vice versa. The curmudgeon in me wants to also point out that that big O logo probably has a trademark on it, and may in fact be backed by the legal department of a billion dollar university. Any of you guys remember when we lobbied (unsucessfully) to get the Hockey Team (Blue Jackets) named the Mad Cows? How about "There's more than one way to moo it" as a slogan? Or would that be a motto? Anybody know the difference between a slogan and a motto? Happy New Year all. Len. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 6 12:29:04 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo Message-ID: Why cows though? Most farmers in Ohio are moving away from cows. In fact, a lot of them are picking up meat goats. So, why not meat goats? Okay, I'm being facetious. It really doesn't matter to me. I'm not sure if we are legally allowed to modify the camel logo though. I know we are allowed to use it because it's been sanctioned by O'Reilly for the perl mongers group, but does that also give us permission to add a Holstein pattern to the camel? =============================== Lotus Notes is great! "Leonard Jaffe" T To: columbus-pm-list@pm.org Sent by: cc: owner-columbus-pm-list@ pm.org bcc: Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo 01/06/2003 11:44 AM Please respond to columbus-pm-list I know it isn't politically correct to say this, but there's more to Columbus than the Buckeyes. I still think our logo should have a cow motif. Maybe a cow in a camel costume, or vice versa. The curmudgeon in me wants to also point out that that big O logo probably has a trademark on it, and may in fact be backed by the legal department of a billion dollar university. Any of you guys remember when we lobbied (unsucessfully) to get the Hockey Team (Blue Jackets) named the Mad Cows? How about "There's more than one way to moo it" as a slogan? Or would that be a motto? Anybody know the difference between a slogan and a motto? Happy New Year all. Len. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bbking at checkfree.com Mon Jan 6 12:31:00 2003 From: bbking at checkfree.com (bbking@checkfree.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo Message-ID: Leonard Jaffe said... > I still think our logo should have a cow motif. Why? I've only lived here about 7 years, but the only time I've heard mention of cows is when some local TV news channel has a story about how "Maybe [event X] or [opening of store Y] will finally help Columbus shake it's cow-town image." Driving around, I've seen way more sheep than cows around here, and not many of those, even. Have I been missing a big dairy farm or slaughterhouse somewhere? (I'm only curious. I don't have a strong opinion about the logo...) -- Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 6 12:44:29 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo Message-ID: Even though a lot of family farmers are moving away from Cows to more profitable ventures, even within the Columbus borders, you can still see cow. I think there's still a farm south of all the stores on Sawmill road. Driving around on the OSU campus, you can see them there too, as Ohio State is still one of the biggest Ag Colleges in the world. There's probably other places too. County fairs and 4-h are very prominent as well, with the grand championships being held at the Fair Grounds that are East of Campus. Also, there are at least annual cow shows at the fairgrounds that I know of... There's probably more. OSU has a pretty active Dairy Club as well. And the rodeo is coming to Nationwide Arena on Saturday. There's still a lot of cows around. Sorry about all the cow facts. My wife grew up on a dairy farm, and I am still regularly forced to shed my city clothes for dung squishers and overalls. =============================== Lotus Notes is great! bbking@checkfree.com T Sent by: To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org owner-columbus-pm-list@ cc: pm.org bcc: Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] Website logo 01/06/2003 01:31 PM Please respond to columbus-pm-list Leonard Jaffe said... > I still think our logo should have a cow motif. Why? I've only lived here about 7 years, but the only time I've heard mention of cows is when some local TV news channel has a story about how "Maybe [event X] or [opening of store Y] will finally help Columbus shake it's cow-town image." Driving around, I've seen way more sheep than cows around here, and not many of those, even. Have I been missing a big dairy farm or slaughterhouse somewhere? (I'm only curious. I don't have a strong opinion about the logo...) -- Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bmaxwell at rodenstockusa.com Mon Jan 6 12:54:34 2003 From: bmaxwell at rodenstockusa.com (Maxwell, Brady) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo Message-ID: That is not a farm on sawmill it is OSU Agricultural departments livestock facility. The Cow Town Image is something we perpetuate ourselves because we all complain that we have no night life or culture like other major cities. Unless you like the meat market feel of the down town clubs then you are SOL unless you drive to Cincy, Cleveland or hell even Dayton has a better and more active culture and Night Life than Columbus. In Columbus our night life consists of Gay Clubs, Meat market clubs and the Gallery Hop nonsense one a month. Oh and OSU Football. Which I enjoy but jeez some people take that stuff to seriously. Thus we all wallow in our own self pity that our home is reminiscent of a "Cow Towns Culture." -----Original Message----- From: HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com [mailto:HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:44 PM To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] Website logo Even though a lot of family farmers are moving away from Cows to more profitable ventures, even within the Columbus borders, you can still see cow. I think there's still a farm south of all the stores on Sawmill road. Driving around on the OSU campus, you can see them there too, as Ohio State is still one of the biggest Ag Colleges in the world. There's probably other places too. County fairs and 4-h are very prominent as well, with the grand championships being held at the Fair Grounds that are East of Campus. Also, there are at least annual cow shows at the fairgrounds that I know of... There's probably more. OSU has a pretty active Dairy Club as well. And the rodeo is coming to Nationwide Arena on Saturday. There's still a lot of cows around. Sorry about all the cow facts. My wife grew up on a dairy farm, and I am still regularly forced to shed my city clothes for dung squishers and overalls. =============================== Lotus Notes is great! bbking@checkfree.com T Sent by: To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org owner-columbus-pm-list@ cc: pm.org bcc: Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] Website logo 01/06/2003 01:31 PM Please respond to columbus-pm-list Leonard Jaffe said... > I still think our logo should have a cow motif. Why? I've only lived here about 7 years, but the only time I've heard mention of cows is when some local TV news channel has a story about how "Maybe [event X] or [opening of store Y] will finally help Columbus shake it's cow-town image." Driving around, I've seen way more sheep than cows around here, and not many of those, even. Have I been missing a big dairy farm or slaughterhouse somewhere? (I'm only curious. I don't have a strong opinion about the logo...) -- Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From riden at neo.rr.com Mon Jan 6 12:59:50 2003 From: riden at neo.rr.com (Bob Iden) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo References: Message-ID: <002d01c2b5b5$ca8b4cb0$2322d118@idenb93b9thzc8> They grow a lot of soybeans in Ohio, too. Also, Ostriches for eating, buffalo, genetic modified plants (just think of the possibilities there!). There seem to be a lot of people raising llamas, too :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] Website logo > > Why cows though? Most farmers in Ohio are moving away from cows. In fact, a > lot of them are picking up meat goats. So, why not meat goats? > > Okay, I'm being facetious. It really doesn't matter to me. I'm not sure if > we are legally allowed to modify the camel logo though. I know we are > allowed to use it because it's been sanctioned by O'Reilly for the perl > mongers group, but does that also give us permission to add a Holstein > pattern to the camel? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Mon Jan 6 12:54:58 2003 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo In-Reply-To: <20030106164409.66481.qmail@mail.com> References: <20030106164409.66481.qmail@mail.com> Message-ID: <1825.207.54.57.230.1041879298.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> I threw that logo together in all of 3.2 seconds. Yes, it has trademark issues with OSU and O'Reilly. If you combine the two, they cancel each other out, didn't you know:) Maybe we could add the National Championship trophy to it? Would that help all you cow lovers? hahahahaha I think are little website is safe for now until we can come up with a final logo. Anyone want to take a crack at it? We can collect them all and vote on the best. cya all tomorrow night. Charles > I know it isn't politically correct to say this, but there's more to Columbus than > the Buckeyes. > > I still think our logo should have a cow motif. Maybe a cow in a camel costume, > or vice versa. > > The curmudgeon in me wants to also point out that that big O logo probably has a > trademark on it, and may in fact be backed by the legal department of a billion > dollar university. > > Any of you guys remember when we lobbied (unsucessfully) to get the Hockey Team > (Blue Jackets) named the Mad Cows? > > How about "There's more than one way to moo it" as a slogan? Or would that be a > motto? Anybody know the difference between a slogan and a motto? > > Happy New Year all. > Len. > -- > __________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 6 13:26:04 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Website logo Message-ID: > Anyone want to take a crack at it? We can collect them all and vote on the best. That'll be fun. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jalex at pobox.com Thu Jan 9 06:12:47 2003 From: jalex at pobox.com (Jason Alexander) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Fwd: [Charles Day ] Message-ID: <1042114367.23457.45.camel@chico> From: Charles Day To: "'columbus-pm-list@pm.org'" Subject: Meeting Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:00:51 -0500 Scottie's was a good location for me. There's another one about 1 mile north downtown Worthington. Looked smaller though. Whoever's interested, send me your contact information (name, URL, company) and I'll post it to the website. There was some talk about a formal meeting with a speaker in 2 weeks. Let's get this thread going. Len, that image/gif header idea worked out great. For those interested, we were talking about banner ad apps. I wanted a script that could first print the banner, then do some database stuff. Was having problems getting around the header. Here's some of the code that does this nicely: This goes on any html page: Here's part of the banners.cgi: $image = "banners/$image"; if (open (IMAGE, "<" . $image)) { $no_bytes = (stat ($image))[7]; print "Content-type: image/gif", "\n"; print "Content-length: $no_bytes", "\n\n"; print ; } else { &databaseerror("ID verified, but Cannot display image $image."); } ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Thu Jan 9 08:54:53 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Notes, etc. Message-ID: Here are some notes from the organization meeting. In attendance: Jason Alexander Jon Hogue Len Jaffe Charles Day Brian King We talked about how it would be neet to work on some perl projects as a group. The two things suggested were... A good webmail project. Others are difficult to setup, etc. An irc bot. We could add different flavors to a standard one. We talked about future speakers including, Steve Romig from Ohio State has agreed to sometime in the future come and talk. We have to figure out schedules. A guy from the linux group was mentioned (I'll withold his name until someone officially talks to him). Also, a talk on bioinformatics would be interesting. A lot of people doing bioinformatics code use perl. Also, we talked about a membership drive, advertising in the following places: meetup.com perl developer group at nationwide secwog at campus cis building - flyers local newsgroups osu newsgroups cis newsgroups Location, Location, Location Scottie Macbean has a conference room that is free for non-profits. Also suggested was a fun place with a conference room like Speeds on Broad Street Dave&Busters on the West Side The only thing better than sitting around talking about Perl is sitting around talking about Perl drinking a beer. I'll check into Speeds and Dave&Busters Meeting Time January 21st, third Tuesday of Every Month - 6:00 PM Since the meeting, I have found a Presenter. He is an expert on the Development process, in general. He is good at taking an idea, talking to the customer, and developing a plan for building code. There is a lot that happens in the application development process before any code is written, from requirement gathering to hashing how the application is going to be architected. He uses a component based approach that has been fined tuned in the real world to be both easy and effective. Plus, he's interesting to talk to. He's no Perl expert by any stretch of the imagination, but provides insight into all the things that should happen before you even drop down any code. I've talked with him a little bit about presenting. He would take a hands on aproach and work with the group to develop some idea. (For example, we could run with the webmail project). If others are interested in Speeds or Dave&Busters, I'll get on the phones and see if we can arrange something. I believe they usually charge for something like this, however, we may be able to get it waved since we are non-profit, and we'll surely be bringing business to whereever we go. Let me know if I missed anything. =============================== Lotus Notes is great! |---------+--------------------------------------> | | Jason Alexander | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | owner-columbus-pm-list@| | | pm.org | | | | | | | | | | | | 01/09/2003 07:12 AM | | | Please respond to | | | columbus-pm-list | | | | |---------+--------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | T | | To: Columbus Perl Mongers | | cc: | | | | bcc: | | Subject: [columbus.pm] Fwd: [Charles Day ] | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| From: Charles Day To: "'columbus-pm-list@pm.org'" Subject: Meeting Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:00:51 -0500 Scottie's was a good location for me. There's another one about 1 mile north downtown Worthington. Looked smaller though. Whoever's interested, send me your contact information (name, URL, company) and I'll post it to the website. There was some talk about a formal meeting with a speaker in 2 weeks. Let's get this thread going. Len, that image/gif header idea worked out great. For those interested, we were talking about banner ad apps. I wanted a script that could first print the banner, then do some database stuff. Was having problems getting around the header. Here's some of the code that does this nicely: This goes on any html page: Here's part of the banners.cgi: $image = "banners/$image"; if (open (IMAGE, "<" . $image)) { $no_bytes = (stat ($image))[7]; print "Content-type: image/gif", "\n"; print "Content-length: $no_bytes", "\n\n"; print ; } else { &databaseerror("ID verified, but Cannot display image $image."); } ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bbking at checkfree.com Fri Jan 10 08:12:59 2003 From: bbking at checkfree.com (bbking@checkfree.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda Message-ID: Jon said... > I've talked with him a little bit about presenting. He > would take a hands on aproach and work with the group to develop some idea. > (For example, we could run with the webmail project). See if you can sign him up for the Jan 21 meeting - sounds like a great guy to have visit. (sounded like he wasn't definite yet) I've heard good about Speeds, but never been there. D&B is a fun place, too. I do prefer beer to coffee... If you can't talk them into letting us use the room free, let us know what the fee would be. Maybe if we split it up it'll still be do-able. If not, I think we can reserve the Scottie's rooms online. I'd love it if he can help us get a good start on the webmail project. -- Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Fri Jan 10 08:26:50 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda Message-ID: Also, I had the thought of asking for a sponsor. For example, if D&B charges, then maybe we can get a consulting company to foot the bill, and in exchange give 'em a few minutes to talk about their company or open positions, etc. I've seen that done in an NT group I was in. (In that group, they had free subs every meeting due to meeting sponsors) =============================== Lotus Notes is great! |---------+--------------------------------------> | | bbking@checkfree.com | | | | | | Sent by: | | | owner-columbus-pm-list@| | | pm.org | | | | | | | | | | | | 01/10/2003 09:12 AM | | | Please respond to | | | columbus-pm-list | | | | |---------+--------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | T | | To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org | | cc: | | | | bcc: | | Subject: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Jon said... > I've talked with him a little bit about presenting. He > would take a hands on aproach and work with the group to develop some idea. > (For example, we could run with the webmail project). See if you can sign him up for the Jan 21 meeting - sounds like a great guy to have visit. (sounded like he wasn't definite yet) I've heard good about Speeds, but never been there. D&B is a fun place, too. I do prefer beer to coffee... If you can't talk them into letting us use the room free, let us know what the fee would be. Maybe if we split it up it'll still be do-able. If not, I think we can reserve the Scottie's rooms online. I'd love it if he can help us get a good start on the webmail project. -- Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Fri Jan 10 08:37:37 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda Message-ID: <20030110143737.38693.qmail@mail.com> If there was a consulting company in Columbus with perl jobs, their office would look like that scene in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone where the letters come pouring out of the fireplace and mail slot, only it would be school acceptance letters, it would be my resume and cover letter :-) Len. I have the flock of owls too. ----- Original Message ----- From: HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:26:50 -0500 To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda > > Also, I had the thought of asking for a sponsor. For example, if D&B > charges, then maybe we can get a consulting company to foot the bill, and > in exchange give 'em a few minutes to talk about their company or open > positions, etc. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Fri Jan 10 09:51:25 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda Message-ID: true. true. it could be vendors or contracting companies looking for leads to job openings. but if we found such a group that for some reason wanted access to the meeting for ten minutes to talk about their whatever, would we be willing to listen in exchange for a free event? just heard back from the dave & busters guys, and they would charge $300 and wouldn't provide an overhead projector. i'll let you know what I hear from the speedz people. Also, gameworks at easton might be another possability. =============================== Lotus Notes is great! |---------+--------------------------------------> | | "Leonard Jaffe" | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | owner-columbus-pm-list@| | | pm.org | | | | | | | | | | | | 01/10/2003 09:37 AM | | | Please respond to | | | columbus-pm-list | | | | |---------+--------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | T | | To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org | | cc: | | | | bcc: | | Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| If there was a consulting company in Columbus with perl jobs, their office would look like that scene in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone where the letters come pouring out of the fireplace and mail slot, only it would be school acceptance letters, it would be my resume and cover letter :-) Len. I have the flock of owls too. ----- Original Message ----- From: HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:26:50 -0500 To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] 21-Jan Meeting: agenda > > Also, I had the thought of asking for a sponsor. For example, if D&B > charges, then maybe we can get a consulting company to foot the bill, and > in exchange give 'em a few minutes to talk about their company or open > positions, etc. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Fri Jan 10 13:54:17 2003 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Notes, etc. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1348.207.54.57.230.1042228457.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Signed up for meetup.com. Although the concept is interesting, the interface is pretty lame. I unsigned up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Wed Jan 15 10:48:33 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Re: 21-Jan Meeting: agenda Message-ID: I should have more details about the speaker today so we can start advertising with details/credentials of the speaker. He has confirmed. Hopefully, a week is enough to get the word out. =============================== Lotus Notes is great! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Wed Jan 15 15:15:08 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Re: 21-Jan Meeting: agenda Message-ID: <20030115211508.77910.qmail@mail.com> > > I should have more details about the speaker today so we can start > advertising with details/credentials of the speaker. He has confirmed. > Hopefully, a week is enough to get the word out. Cool beans. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Thu Jan 16 06:58:36 2003 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] perl irc bot Message-ID: <3684.207.54.57.230.1042721916.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Jason, you have any info on this? Thinking if it was developed well enough, it might make a cool webpage. Charles ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Thu Jan 16 07:33:19 2003 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] perl irc bot In-Reply-To: <3684.207.54.57.230.1042721916.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> References: <3684.207.54.57.230.1042721916.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Message-ID: <3935.207.54.57.230.1042723999.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> Wow, turns out I'm years behind! Check this out: http://www.a-i.com/default.asp > Jason, you have any info on this? Thinking if it was developed well enough, it > might make a cool webpage. > > Charles > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send > mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to > columbus-pm-list@pm.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with > unsubscribe columbus-pm-list > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Thu Jan 16 08:44:11 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] perl irc bot Message-ID: <20030116144411.22363.qmail@mail.com> > Wow, turns out I'm years behind! Check this out: > > http://www.a-i.com/default.asp It's like talking to my three year old, only less so. Len. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Fri Jan 17 14:58:24 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Tuesday's Meeting Message-ID: I met with the speaker today and confirmend his appearance for Tuesday's meeting. I should be getting a list of his credentials today. His name is Al Cline. He is a professor at Ohio State and owner of a successful software engineering firm. The general discussion topic is something to the affect, "What happens betwen the raw idea and the code." when strating a development project. Also, I am trying to arrange a meeting place at Scotty McBean's. (I filled out their form on the web.) I may call them just because it'd be nice to get some e-mails out today. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Fri Jan 17 21:17:27 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Bio. Still waiting for confirmation on Scotty MacBeans Message-ID: Pretty strong BIO for our Tuesday speaker. Alan Cline has almost 30 years experience in the computing industry. Alan is a part-time Ohio State University (OSU) faculty member, and adjunct professor at DeVry University. He teaches project management, object technology, and Java programming. He has been published several times, speaks to professional groups regularly, and is President of his own consulting company (Carolla Development) to help other companies improve their software processes. Alan has worked successfully with AEP, CompuServe, BankOne, State of Ohio, Nationwide. At AEP, he was project manager for a steering team that shaved $31 million off their IT budget. He was Semifinalist for T.O.P.Cat Award, Best Educator in Columbus, and nominated as Best Small Business Person of the Year 2000 by the OSU Computer Science department. Alan has his undergraduate degree in math and physics, and an M.S. in physics. He teaches martial arts, Tai Chi, and enjoys movies. Alan is married, has three daughters, and lives in Dublin. Although his daughters are involved in music programs throughout the state, the only musical instrument he can play is the radio. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 20 10:44:03 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] I have a room! Message-ID: But the only time I could get was for 7:45. Will this work? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Mon Jan 20 12:37:09 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] I have a room! Message-ID: <20030120183709.44420.qmail@mail.com> > From: HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com > But the only time I could get was for 7:45. Will this work? That's probably decent for me. Remind me again where the room is... Scotty's Beachwold again? Len. Just another hack perler. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bbking at checkfree.com Mon Jan 20 12:44:30 2003 From: bbking at checkfree.com (bbking@checkfree.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] I have a room! Message-ID: Great! Thanks for setting this up! 7:45 will actually be much *better* for me, this week. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 20 13:09:30 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] I have a room! Message-ID: it's the Scotty's linked to at perl mongers webpage. 4675 North high street. The room is free, but the owner/manager of the restaurunt mentioned it would be a sign of gratitude to encourage everyone to buy some coffee, etc. i'm going to try and get the word out now that we finally have things finalized. Hopefully, for February, things will go a little smoother, and plans will be finalized long before the day before. =============================== Lotus Notes is great! |---------+--------------------------------------> | | "Leonard Jaffe" | | | | | | | | | Sent by: | | | owner-columbus-pm-list@| | | pm.org | | | | | | | | | | | | 01/20/2003 01:37 PM | | | Please respond to | | | columbus-pm-list | | | | |---------+--------------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | T | | To: columbus-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org | | cc: | | | | bcc: | | Subject: Re: [columbus.pm] I have a room! | >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| > From: HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com > But the only time I could get was for 7:45. Will this work? That's probably decent for me. Remind me again where the room is... Scotty's Beachwold again? Len. Just another hack perler. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 20 13:29:53 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Perl Mongers, First Meeting of 2003 - Official Notice Message-ID: What: "Introduction to Perl Based Sequences, Technique and Notation" This talk will be about the activities that happen between the idea of a development project to the actual coding. Although this pressentation is based on the Perl programming language, the technique is general to all languages. Therefore, for this presentation, all developers are invited to join in this tech talk. Who: Perl Mongers of Columbus would like to invite anyone interested in Perl to the first Columbus Perl Mongers meeting of 2003. To find out more about the Columbus Perl Mongers, check out http://columbus.pm.org. Our Speaker: Our guest speark is Alan Cline. Alan has almost 30 years experience in the computing industry. Alan is a part-time Ohio State University (OSU) faculty member, and adjunct professor at DeVry University. He teaches project management, object technology, and Java programming. He has been published several times, speaks to professional groups regularly, and is President of his own consulting company (Carolla Development) to help other companies improve their software processes. Alan has worked successfully with AEP, CompuServe, BankOne, State of Ohio, Nationwide. At AEP, he was project manager for a steering team that shaved $31 million off their IT budget. He was Semifinalist for T.O.P.Cat Award, Best Educator in Columbus, and nominated as Best Small Business Person of the Year 2000 by the OSU Computer Science department. Alan has his undergraduate degree in math and physics, and an M.S. in physics. He teaches martial arts, Tai Chi, and enjoys movies. Alan is married, has three daughters, and lives in Dublin. Although his daughters are involved in music programs throughout the state, the only musical instrument he can play is the radio. When: January 21, 2003 at 7:45 PM Where: Scottie's Beechwold Cafe 4675 North High Street Columbus, Ohio 43214 614-888-3494 more location info at http://columbus.pm.org/locations.shtml btw, good work on the web page. I like. If you want, you can include my e-mail address on my name. (jon@hogue.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Tue Jan 21 15:54:55 2003 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Chatterbot Message-ID: <2347.207.54.57.230.1043186095.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> After further research on our perl irc bot idea, I've run across a couple perl chatterbots. Alice and Eliza. Eliza was the first chatterbot, but is very basic. Alice seems to be the most advanced, and has a huge open source community. I've put up a couple here to play with, one is irc, the other a webpage: http://day.s1te.com/ >> Perl >> s1tebot (Alice) >> Perl >> s1tebot (Eliza) This could be a great project for us to work on as a group. Cya'all tonight. Charles ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Tue Jan 21 22:14:58 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Perl Mongers, First Meeting of 2003 - Official Notice Message-ID: <20030122041459.94736.qmail@mail.com> Great presentation. Thanks to Al for presenting and to Jon for setting the whole thing up. Len. Just another hack perler. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Tue Jan 21 22:19:59 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Good Meeting Tonight and other stuff Message-ID: It was a good meeting tonight, I think. We had about 10 - 12 in attendance and had some pretty good conversations about the software development process. Alan Cline is certainly a knowledgeable person on software development from a technical and business standpoint. >From talking to manager tonight, Scotty's is going to start charging for rooms. The fee is going to be between $30-40. I'll find out more this week. We'll need to figure out a way to pay for that, whether it be collecting a fee at the door, passing a hat, or asking for a membership fee or something. Any ideas? A good meeting, and I'll start doing the footwork on the next one, pencilled in for Tuesday, February 20. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From thepler at freeshell.org Wed Jan 22 09:37:44 2003 From: thepler at freeshell.org (Todd Hepler) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Good Meeting Tonight and other stuff References: Message-ID: <3E2EBAC8.201@freeshell.org> I agree, good meeting, good presentations. Looking forward to the next one. -todd HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com wrote: > It was a good meeting tonight, I think. We had about 10 - 12 in attendance > and had some pretty good conversations about the software development > process. > > Alan Cline is certainly a knowledgeable person on software development from > a technical and business standpoint. > >>From talking to manager tonight, Scotty's is going to start charging for > rooms. The fee is going to be between $30-40. I'll find out more this week. > > We'll need to figure out a way to pay for that, whether it be collecting a > fee at the door, passing a hat, or asking for a membership fee or > something. Any ideas? > > A good meeting, and I'll start doing the footwork on the next one, > pencilled in for Tuesday, February 20. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to > columbus-pm-list@pm.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with > unsubscribe columbus-pm-list > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Mon Jan 27 14:18:24 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Next Meeting Message-ID: I can get the big meeting room at Scottie's on the 25th. Which is the 4th Tuesday of the Month. The 3rd Tuesday is booked. I'm trying to get the Scottie's lady to open up a night for us on a constant night, but we'll see how that goes. It would probably help attendance in the long run if we have the meeting at the same place, at the same time, on the same day every month. If no-one has any objections to the 25th, then lets schedule the meeting for the 25th at 6:00 PM. Also, there is a newly introduced $25 fee. I was thinking we could collect that at the door in the form of a very strongly recommended $2 donation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bbking at checkfree.com Mon Jan 27 15:22:29 2003 From: bbking at checkfree.com (bbking@checkfree.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Next Meeting Message-ID: > If no-one has any objections to the 25th, > then lets schedule the meeting for the 25th at 6:00 PM. I won't be able to make it in Feb no matter what evening we choose, so ... whatever works ... :-) I'll be lurking on the list, though. I agree that we should have a consistent day-of-the-month for meetings. Makes it easier to plan to be there. Generally speaking, Tuesday evenings are still good for me. Weds is the only *bad* day, actually. -- Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Wed Jan 29 08:28:46 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Meeting Message-ID: It's been a couple of days and no complaints, so let's Move Tuesday's meeting to the 25th at 6 PM at Scotties. MOTD for Wed Jan 29 09:05:06 2003 "A man can't be too careful in the choice of his enemies." - Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) brought to you by a heard of scripting camels ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Thu Jan 30 11:25:27 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] No Speaker So Far - Project Time? Message-ID: However, that may not be a bad thing. We didn't 'DO' a lot at the last meeting; however, had an interesting speaker. I am still working with the Perl Security guy, but looks like most Tuesday's are out for him unless they are the 5th Tuesday of the month (April has one). I know almost everyone would like to work on a collaborative Perl project. So how 'bout the following agenda for the next meeting? 5:30 - 6:15 Social Time 6:15 - 6:45 Group Meeting Time (New Business, Old Business, What do we want to do in the next 3, 6, 12 meetings) 6:45 - 8:00 Lay ground work for group project. (Set up organizational structure [sourceforge], declare project type [probably IRC bot or webmail], declare roles[ultimate code controller], setup architecture, etc.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charles.Day at s1te.com Thu Jan 30 16:01:52 2003 From: Charles.Day at s1te.com (Charles Day) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] No Speaker So Far - Project Time? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1894.207.54.57.230.1043964112.squirrel@WWW.S1TE.COM> I wish ya'll would jump on this AI bandwagon. My bot gets smarter everyday, but I'm only tapping the surface. It's written in perl modules and an XML type format called AIML. It runs from the command line, a webpage, or in an irc channel. It can execute unix commands, perl code, launch webpages, query other databases, anything. Here's it's home for now: http://www.s1te.com/webtools/ C > > However, that may not be a bad thing. We didn't 'DO' a lot at the last meeting; > however, had an interesting speaker. I am still working with the Perl Security > guy, but looks like most Tuesday's are out for him unless they are the 5th Tuesday > of the month (April has one). > > I know almost everyone would like to work on a collaborative Perl project. So how > 'bout the following agenda for the next meeting? > > 5:30 - 6:15 Social Time > 6:15 - 6:45 Group Meeting Time (New Business, Old Business, What do we want to do > in the next 3, 6, 12 meetings) > 6:45 - 8:00 Lay ground work for group project. (Set up organizational structure > [sourceforge], declare project type [probably IRC bot or webmail], declare > roles[ultimate code controller], setup architecture, etc.) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lenjaffe at mail.com Thu Jan 30 17:02:11 2003 From: lenjaffe at mail.com (Leonard Jaffe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] No Speaker So Far - Project Time? Message-ID: <20030130230211.34972.qmail@mail.com> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Day" > I wish ya'll would jump on this AI bandwagon. So, give us a URL to interact with your bot. I did a bunch of AI in the late 80s while "in school." Most of it boiled down to depth-first searching or breadth-first searching. LISP was kind of fun to code in. But I probably couldn't tell my car from my cdr anymore. You should hook it up the the fincancial market feeds and the krispy kreme web site, so it can perform realtime conversion of dollars to donuts. Len. Just another hack perler. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com Fri Jan 31 08:25:29 2003 From: HOGUEJ at Nationwide.com (HOGUEJ@Nationwide.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:00:09 2004 Subject: [columbus.pm] Bio for April Speaker - April, 29 Message-ID: Speaker bio: Steve Romig Steve Romig in charge of the Ohio State University Incident Response Team, which provides incident response assistance, training, consulting, and security auditing service for The Ohio State University community. He is also working with a group of people from Central Ohio businesses to improve internet security response and practices in the Ohio area. Steve received his Bachelor's degree in Math (Computer Science Track) from Carnegie Mellon University in 1983. In years past Steve has worked as lead UNIX system administrator at one site with 40,000 users and 12 hosts and another site with 3,000 users and over 500 hosts. You can reach him by phone at 1-614-688-3412 (we're in GMT-0400/0500, I'm generally in the office "for sure" between 10 AM and 6 PM) or by email at romig@net.ohio-state.edu. Most recently Steve has been working on tools to make it easier to investigate network related evidence of computer security incidents, such as the Review package for viewing the contents of tcpdump logs, and the Netflow package from Mark Fullmer for looking at Cisco net flow logs. Past Talks Here http://www.net.ohio-state.edu/security/talks.shtml Steve's Bio Here http://www.net.ohio-state.edu/security/bios/steve-romig.shtml Steve's Resume Here http://home.columbus.rr.com/sromig/resume-steve.html MOTD for Fri Jan 31 09:17:21 2003 "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - Thomas Watson (1874-1956), Chairman of IBM, 1943 brought to you by a heard of scripting camels ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To send mail to the Columbus.pm list send email to columbus-pm-list@pm.org To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@pm.org with unsubscribe columbus-pm-list -----------------------------------------------------------------------