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<DIV>I am suspicious in many cases XML is a Gross Violation of the KISS principle.</DIV>
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<DIV>This is an amateur observation, but seems Computer Programming is cursed with a Tower of Babel culture. Seems to me most XML documents could be replaced with the passing of a string or a text file.</DIV>
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<DIV>Peanut gallery opinion, :)<BR><BR><B><I>classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Send Classiccity-pm mailing list submissions to<BR>classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org<BR><BR>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm<BR>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org<BR><BR>You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>classiccity-pm-owner@mail.pm.org<BR><BR>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of Classiccity-pm digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>1. XML is too hard for programmers (Darrell Golliher)<BR>2. Re: XML is too hard for programmers (Jonathan Daugherty)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:02:04 -0500<BR>From: Darrell Golliher <DARRELL@GOLLIHER.NET><BR>Subject: [Classiccity-pm] XML is too
hard for programmers<BR>To: classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org<BR>Message-ID: <20040216160204.GA8953@golliher.net><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR><BR><BR>Saw this posted elsewhere and it pretty much sums up my thoughts on<BR>the subject. I wondered if you guys have found XML nirvanna and care<BR>to share it with the rest of us..<BR><BR>http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/03/16/XML-Prog<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:02:56 -0500<BR>From: Jonathan Daugherty <CYGNUS@CPROGRAMMER.ORG><BR>Subject: Re: [Classiccity-pm] XML is too hard for programmers<BR>To: "All purpose mailing list for Athens, Ga Perl Mongers"<BR><CLASSICCITY-PM@MAIL.PM.ORG><BR>Message-ID: <20040216160256.GA4228@mail.theserver.ath.cx><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii<BR><BR># Saw this posted elsewhere and it pretty much sums up my thoughts on<BR># the subject. I wondered if you guys have found XML nirvanna and care<BR># to
share it with the rest of us..<BR># <BR># http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/03/16/XML-Prog<BR><BR>A good read. On occasion I get the bright idea to use XML as a basis<BR>for a config file or something. When I do, the first step is always<BR>deciding which parsing model to use -- event-driven or DOM-style --<BR>and rarely does one or the other fit very well with the design of my<BR>program, chiefly because:<BR><BR>1) Event-driven parsing requires the implementation of a small handful<BR>of handlers for various parsing events, all of which will hopefully<BR>operate on some data structure. This is usually trivial, but<BR>depending on the implementation language this may be a really bad<BR>design choice.<BR><BR>2) DOM-style parsing generally results in a really nasty, difficult-to-<BR>use data structure. This is true for some APIs in Perl, Python, C,<BR>and C++. QT has what I think is the nicest C++ API, and some of<BR>the python modules are nice, too. The dom-style xml stuff
I've done<BR>in perl always leaves me with an uneasy feeling. I always have to<BR>use Data::Dumper to figure out what the fuck is going on.<BR><BR>One of the things about xml work that annoys me is that there are<BR>tons of different APIs for doing it, and most of them differ only by<BR>small degree. And some of them just make things more kludgy, like<BR>adding a new class or set of functions to operate on nodes in an<BR>XML tree, etc. On many occasions I have simply decided that using<BR>XML wasn't worth the effort, and I've gone with an X resource file or<BR>something similar.<BR><BR>So I guess I don't have anything new to offer -- I'm just complaining<BR>since the article reminded me how much of a love-hate relationship I<BR>have with XML.<BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>Jonathan Daugherty<BR>http://www.cprogrammer.org<BR><BR>"It's a book about a Spanish guy called Manual, you should read it."<BR>--
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