From lgrove at uga.edu Mon Aug 2 10:52:49 2004 From: lgrove at uga.edu (Leslie Grove) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:28:39 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report Message-ID: <410E6351.1020808@uga.edu> Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so I'll try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? -- Leslie Grove Computing Services UGA Law School (706) 542-5070 lgrove@uga.edu From darrell at golliher.net Mon Aug 2 11:10:10 2004 From: darrell at golliher.net (Darrell Golliher) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:28:39 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report In-Reply-To: <410E6351.1020808@uga.edu> References: <410E6351.1020808@uga.edu> Message-ID: <20040802161010.GA6962@golliher.net> On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:52:49AM -0400, Leslie Grove wrote: > Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next > meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to > present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring > him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back > from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so I'll > try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. > Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? I'll be happy to put him up. I've got a guest bedroom and no roomates. -Darrell From clmf8 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 18:29:10 2004 From: clmf8 at yahoo.com (Sam Feltus) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:28:39 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] Re: Classiccity-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <200408021700.i72H0pKt017777@www.pm.org> Message-ID: <20040802232910.75762.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> Still feeling like a clown for missing last meeting, haha... I'd pitch in $30 or something, but I ain't made of money. POE always seemed like a very interesting thing to me. Sam the Gardnener classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org wrote: Send Classiccity-pm mailing list submissions to classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org You can reach the person managing the list at classiccity-pm-owner@mail.pm.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Classiccity-pm digest..." Today's Topics: 1. OSCON report (Leslie Grove) 2. Re: OSCON report (Darrell Golliher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:52:49 -0400 From: Leslie Grove Subject: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report To: classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org Message-ID: <410E6351.1020808@uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so I'll try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? -- Leslie Grove Computing Services UGA Law School (706) 542-5070 lgrove@uga.edu ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:10:10 -0400 From: Darrell Golliher Subject: Re: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report To: "All purpose mailing list for Athens, Ga Perl Mongers" Message-ID: <20040802161010.GA6962@golliher.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:52:49AM -0400, Leslie Grove wrote: > Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next > meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to > present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring > him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back > from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so I'll > try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. > Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? I'll be happy to put him up. I've got a guest bedroom and no roomates. -Darrell ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Classiccity-pm mailing list Classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm End of Classiccity-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 ********************************************* --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/classiccity-pm/attachments/20040802/c44b5b69/attachment.htm From clmf8 at yahoo.com Mon Aug 2 18:30:13 2004 From: clmf8 at yahoo.com (Sam Feltus) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:28:39 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] Re: Classiccity-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <200408021700.i72H0pKt017777@www.pm.org> Message-ID: <20040802233013.92888.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> PS, also got a free Falcons ticket to pitch in on Sunday, if that would help... S classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org wrote: Send Classiccity-pm mailing list submissions to classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org You can reach the person managing the list at classiccity-pm-owner@mail.pm.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Classiccity-pm digest..." Today's Topics: 1. OSCON report (Leslie Grove) 2. Re: OSCON report (Darrell Golliher) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:52:49 -0400 From: Leslie Grove Subject: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report To: classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org Message-ID: <410E6351.1020808@uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so I'll try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? -- Leslie Grove Computing Services UGA Law School (706) 542-5070 lgrove@uga.edu ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:10:10 -0400 From: Darrell Golliher Subject: Re: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report To: "All purpose mailing list for Athens, Ga Perl Mongers" Message-ID: <20040802161010.GA6962@golliher.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:52:49AM -0400, Leslie Grove wrote: > Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next > meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to > present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring > him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back > from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so I'll > try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. > Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? I'll be happy to put him up. I've got a guest bedroom and no roomates. -Darrell ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Classiccity-pm mailing list Classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm End of Classiccity-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 ********************************************* --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/classiccity-pm/attachments/20040802/8f10e008/attachment.htm From lgrove at uga.edu Mon Aug 2 19:36:11 2004 From: lgrove at uga.edu (Leslie Grove) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:28:39 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] Re: Classiccity-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 References: <20040802233013.92888.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <410EDDFB.2000408@uga.edu> I think Sunday might be a bit soon! But I spoke to Piotr today and he seems pretty sure that ACM would pitch in, so I'll find out about that... Sam Feltus wrote: > PS, also got a free Falcons ticket to pitch in on Sunday, if that would > help... > > S > > */classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org/* wrote: > > Send Classiccity-pm mailing list submissions to > classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > classiccity-pm-request@mail.pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > classiccity-pm-owner@mail.pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Classiccity-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. OSCON report (Leslie Grove) > 2. Re: OSCON report (Darrell Golliher) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 11:52:49 -0400 > From: Leslie Grove > Subject: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report > To: classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org > Message-! ID: <410E6351.1020808@uga.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next > meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be happy to > present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can bring > him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did hear back > from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, so > I'll > try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest them. > Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? > -- > > Leslie Grove > Computing Services > UGA Law School > (706) 542-5070 > lgrove@uga.edu > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:10:10 -0400 > From: Darrell Golliher > Subject: Re: [Classiccity-pm] OSCON report > To: "All purpose mailing list for Athens, Ga Perl Mongers" > > Message-ID: <20040802161010.GA6962@golliher.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:52:49AM -0400, Leslie Grove wrote: > > Just got back from OSCON and can tell you all about it at our next > > meeting. Great, great conference. Also, Rocco Caputo would be > happy to > > present his POE (http://poe.perl.org/) tutorial for us if we can > bring > > him here (from Florida) and provide room & board. I never did > hear back > > from Dr. Kraemer about the ACM possibly helping us with funding, > so I'll > > try e-mailing again. POE may be too specific a topic to interest > them. > > Maybe we can come up with some cool T-shirts to sell? > > I'll be happy to put him up. I've got a guest bedroom and no > roomates. > > -Darrell > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Classiccity-pm mailing list > Classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm > > > End of Classiccity-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 > ********************************************* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail > > - 100MB free storage! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Classiccity-pm mailing list > Classiccity-pm@mail.pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/classiccity-pm -- Leslie Grove Computing Services UGA Law School (706) 542-5070 lgrove@uga.edu From darrell at golliher.net Thu Aug 5 09:29:29 2004 From: darrell at golliher.net (Darrell Golliher) Date: Thu Aug 5 09:29:30 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] perl curiosity.. Message-ID: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> So I'm reading someone elses code and come acrosse something like this.. @things = qw(one two three); print $things[-1]; Which prints "three". Actually, the code really looks more like this.. my $updated= localtime((stat $cAr[-1]->source_file)[9]); Which really looks ugly to me. In this example $cAr is an array of HTML::Mason components. So, I'm wondering if you guys know an alternate idom for specifiying the last element of an array. Indexing it with -1 looks ugly to me. -Darrell From pkeck at uga.edu Thu Aug 5 09:35:41 2004 From: pkeck at uga.edu (Paul Keck) Date: Thu Aug 5 09:35:43 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] perl curiosity.. In-Reply-To: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> References: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> Message-ID: <20040805143541.GD2576@uga.edu> On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:29:29AM -0400, Darrell Golliher wrote: > > So I'm reading someone elses code and come acrosse something like > this.. > > @things = qw(one two three); > print $things[-1]; print $things[$#things]; which I find even uglier. It wouldn't help in this case, but depending on the situation you could just pop off the last element for some purpose, if the array were disposable. $whatever = pop @things; -- Paul Keck pkeck@uga.edu http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck University of Georgia http://www.uga.edu/ucns/telecom EITS Network Engineering mailto:pkeck@ediacara.org --Opinions mine.-- Go fighting anomalocaridids!!! From pkeck at uga.edu Thu Aug 5 09:51:33 2004 From: pkeck at uga.edu (Paul Keck) Date: Thu Aug 5 09:51:34 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] cute perl one-liner Message-ID: <20040805145133.GE2576@uga.edu> I was troubleshooting a network problem a while back and a good way to watch things was to set up a continuous ping. Trouble is, when you're across the room and the ping gets past a certain point, there is no obvious change to the screen even if it's still working fine. So I piped the ping results into a perl one-liner and prepended a random number of spaces to the beginning of the line: ping 128.192.1.1 |perl -n -e 'print " " x rand(5), $_' which looks like pkeck@hodag:~$ ping 128.192.1.1 |perl -n -e 'print " " x rand(5), $_' PING 128.192.1.1 (128.192.1.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=63 time=0.2 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=0.2 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.2 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=63 time=1.9 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=63 time=1.4 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=63 time=1.6 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=63 time=4.9 ms 64 bytes from 128.192.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=63 time=1.5 ms and as this scrolls up the screen it is obvious when it stops. If you like noise you could also have it print an "alarm" character, which beeps on most terminals: ping 128.192.1.1 |perl -n -e 'print " " x rand(5), "\a", $_' And yes, you could do this with sed or awk or any number of other languages. Anyone have a similar situation when it would come in handy? -- Paul Keck pkeck@uga.edu http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck University of Georgia http://www.uga.edu/ucns/telecom EITS Network Engineering mailto:pkeck@ediacara.org --Opinions mine.-- Go fighting anomalocaridids!!! From happy at mcplaksin.org Thu Aug 5 10:03:34 2004 From: happy at mcplaksin.org (Mark Plaksin) Date: Thu Aug 5 10:03:39 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] Re: perl curiosity.. In-Reply-To: <20040805143541.GD2576@uga.edu> (Paul Keck's message of "Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:35:41 -0400") References: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> <20040805143541.GD2576@uga.edu> Message-ID: Paul Keck writes: > On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:29:29AM -0400, Darrell Golliher wrote: >> >> So I'm reading someone elses code and come acrosse something like >> this.. >> >> @things = qw(one two three); >> print $things[-1]; > > print $things[$#things]; There's print $things[@things-1]; or print (reverse(@things))[0]; :) From mdxi at collapsar.net Thu Aug 5 10:04:01 2004 From: mdxi at collapsar.net (Shawn Boyette) Date: Thu Aug 5 10:04:36 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] perl curiosity.. In-Reply-To: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> References: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> Message-ID: <20040805150401.GA638@fornax.collapsar.net> On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 10:29:29AM -0400, Darrell Golliher wrote: > > So I'm reading someone elses code and come acrosse something like > this.. > > @things = qw(one two three); > print $things[-1]; Yar, it's Standard Perl Idiom (it's in the Llama, even) > Indexing it with -1 looks ugly to me. Heh. I always thought it made a lot of sense :) -- Shawn Boyette mdxi@collapsar.net From mdxi at collapsar.net Thu Aug 5 10:15:59 2004 From: mdxi at collapsar.net (Shawn Boyette) Date: Thu Aug 5 10:16:32 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] Today I Am A Man Message-ID: <20040805151559.GB638@fornax.collapsar.net> Since we're talking about semi-random perl stuffs, I'll point out that I now have *more* code on CPAN than ESR does. It's an astonishingly trivial module, but somebody actually asked for it. http://search.cpan.org/~mdxi/String-MFN-1.13/lib/String/MFN.pm One day I might even do something *useful*. -- Shawn Boyette mdxi@collapsar.net From darrell at golliher.net Thu Aug 5 11:00:58 2004 From: darrell at golliher.net (Darrell Golliher) Date: Thu Aug 5 11:01:00 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] perl curiosity.. In-Reply-To: <20040805150401.GA638@fornax.collapsar.net> References: <20040805142929.GA18340@golliher.net> <20040805150401.GA638@fornax.collapsar.net> Message-ID: <20040805160058.GA18712@golliher.net> On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 11:04:01AM -0400, Shawn Boyette wrote: > > Heh. I always thought it made a lot of sense :) > Now that I've considered the popular alternatives I'm quickly falling in love with -1. :) -d From darrell at golliher.net Thu Aug 5 11:07:05 2004 From: darrell at golliher.net (Darrell Golliher) Date: Thu Aug 5 11:07:08 2004 Subject: [Classiccity-pm] We are hiring Message-ID: <20040805160705.GB18712@golliher.net> My company (which I've been very happy with) has an opening. It is in Atlanta. Here's the official job posting: --- Software Development Analyst Cox Radio Interactive has an opening for a Perl software development analyst with proven ability to design, build, and test interactive software applications in a Unix environment. Specifically, a successful candidate must be able to analyze and implement business objectives in a team environment. In addition, this position requires articulate, courteous, and reliable communication with engineers outside the immediate workgroup. Full product-life cycle skills are needed, including knowledge of systematic testing methodologies. The candidate must have a solid understanding of full-life cycle development of web-based GUI applications. Candidates should hold a college degree in Computer Science or a related field, or demonstrate equivalent work experience. The candidate should have a strong background in data structures, user interface design, software engineering and database design. Additional experience with Apache, Unix system administration, XML, and Java is highly desirable. Working knowledge of Windows 2000 and MSSQL would be a plus. Finally, the candidate must demonstrate development skills advanced enough to require minimal supervision as well as the ability to communicate clearly goals and objectives of development work to other team members and the ability to document the development work.