From sunnavy at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 09:06:53 2007
From: sunnavy at gmail.com (sun navy)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 00:06:53 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
Message-ID: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>

似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？


-- 
sunnavy

From a.r.ferreira at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 10:38:36 2007
From: a.r.ferreira at gmail.com (Adriano Ferreira)
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:38:36 -0300
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <73ddeb6c0704041038o38843fc3r4271d0545c384d73@mail.gmail.com>

I can't read what you said but it looks like something worthy to
publish on use.perl and PerlMonks, if only for others to know what's
going about Perl in China.

On 4/4/07, sun navy <sunnavy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？
>
>
> --
> sunnavy
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm

From shijialee at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 17:14:27 2007
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:14:27 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46143F63.1020204@gmail.com>

这是我所了解的:
大会计划的时间是 5/19 - 5/20。nomas 正在准备，应该很快就要开始宣传了。
cnhacktnt 正在制作大会的网站。

其他的就等 nomas 吧。

Qiang


sun navy wrote:
> 似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？
> 
> 

From pangj at earthlink.net  Wed Apr  4 17:33:10 2007
From: pangj at earthlink.net (Jeff Pang)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:33:10 +0800 (GMT+08:00)
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
 =?utf-8?b?77yf?=
Message-ID: <15916993.1175733190851.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


>I can't read what you said but it looks like something worthy to
>publish on use.perl and PerlMonks, if only for others to know what's
>going about Perl in China.
>

Hello,

Someone asked with Chinese when the YAPC::Beijing meeting should get started.
Then Qiang said it would hold on 5/18 - 5/19.It's on the preparing process right now.
Anyway,welcome to Perl China.

--
mailto: pangj at earthlink.net
http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/

From shijialee at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 17:34:41 2007
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:34:41 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <73ddeb6c0704041038o38843fc3r4271d0545c384d73@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
	<73ddeb6c0704041038o38843fc3r4271d0545c384d73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46144421.7070101@gmail.com>

Adriano Ferreira wrote:
> I can't read what you said but it looks like something worthy to
> publish on use.perl and PerlMonks, if only for others to know what's
> going about Perl in China.

May 19 - May 20. PerlChina is preparing a workshop in Beijing( we had 
one last year around the same time.). That's all i know about. I will 
make sure that it get posted on use.perl later when i get more information.

Qiang


> 
> On 4/4/07, sun navy <sunnavy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？
>>
>>
>> --
>> sunnavy
>> _______________________________________________
>> China-pm mailing list
>> China-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm

From cnhacktnt at gmail.com  Wed Apr  4 20:50:58 2007
From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhacktnt)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:50:58 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46147222.5000508@gmail.com>

hi,sun navy!
    因为有些预料外的因素导致大会进度有些延滞,不过请相信我们还活动着呵呵, 
感谢大家的关注!!~~~非常感谢:-)

sun navy wrote:
> 似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？
>
>
>   


From nomas.zhou at gmail.com  Thu Apr  5 07:24:25 2007
From: nomas.zhou at gmail.com (nomas)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <158876750704050724t2294c909lbae592fe188eba4e@mail.gmail.com>

抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。

在07-4-5，sun navy <sunnavy at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？
>
>
> --
> sunnavy
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Thu Apr  5 07:41:14 2007
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:41:14 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
 =?utf-8?b?77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <158876750704050724t2294c909lbae592fe188eba4e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26447730704040906n5fb6cc2fofedf6d8e7901231@mail.gmail.com>
	<158876750704050724t2294c909lbae592fe188eba4e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tqbe20qe1agv8m@localhost>

其实我也在关注，原来NOMAS是这位大哥 我的MSN上有。。。

在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:

> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
>
> 在07-4-5，sun navy <sunnavy at gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>> 似乎没有动静了，怎么回事？
>>
>>
>> --
>> sunnavy
>> _______________________________________________
>> China-pm mailing list
>> China-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm



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From pangj at earthlink.net  Thu Apr  5 08:46:36 2007
From: pangj at earthlink.net (Jeff Pang)
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:46:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
 =?utf-8?b?77yf?=
Message-ID: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

>
>在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
>
>> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
>>

Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?

--
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http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/

From alexe.cn at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 05:44:34 2007
From: alexe.cn at gmail.com (alexe.cn at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:44:34 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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关注。


在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
> >
> >在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
> >
> >> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
> >>
>
> Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
>
> --
> mailto: pangj at earthlink.net
> http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm


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 |By Alexe (http://alexe.cublog.cn)|
+----------------------------------------------+

From anderslee2003 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 18:58:56 2007
From: anderslee2003 at gmail.com (Anders Lee)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:58:56 +0900
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>

我和大家一样也很关注perl。
可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？

On 4/8/07, alexe.cn at gmail.com <alexe.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 关注。
>
>
> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
> > >
> > >在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
> > >
> > >> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
> > >>
> >
> > Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
> >
> > --
> > mailto: pangj at earthlink.net
> > http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
> --
> +-----------------------------------------------+
> |By Alexe (http://alexe.cublog.cn)|
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From shijialee at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 19:41:55 2007
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:41:55 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?UGVybCDKudPD?=
In-Reply-To: <4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4619A7F3.7040606@gmail.com>

Anders Lee wrote:
> 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？


Perl 的功能很多。我工作的地方主要使用 Perl 写网络程序 ( 用
CGI::Application )，其次是做系统自动化 ( 分析 log 等 ) 。

另外，这是个老话题了。perlchina 和 chinaunix 上都有类似的帖子。

Qiang

From honghunter at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 20:54:52 2007
From: honghunter at gmail.com (zongzi)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:54:52 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?UGVybCDkvb/nlKg=?=
In-Reply-To: <4619A7F3.7040606@gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4619A7F3.7040606@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1700c2710704082054v65a1ecc5r6dc4ecb0e081dea0@mail.gmail.com>

俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。

工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。

平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。

绝对是最初级的用户了。

用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。


在 07-4-9，Qiang ( James ) Li<shijialee at gmail.com> 写道：
> Anders Lee wrote:
> > 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> > 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> > 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> > 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> > 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？
>
>
> Perl 的功能很多。我工作的地方主要使用 Perl 写网络程序 ( 用
> CGI::Application )，其次是做系统自动化 ( 分析 log 等 ) 。
>
> 另外，这是个老话题了。perlchina 和 chinaunix 上都有类似的帖子。
>
> Qiang
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm


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From fayland at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 21:09:49 2007
From: fayland at gmail.com (Fayland Lam)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 04:09:49 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?UGVybCDkvb/nlKg=?=
In-Reply-To: <1700c2710704082054v65a1ecc5r6dc4ecb0e081dea0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>	<4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>	<4619A7F3.7040606@gmail.com>
	<1700c2710704082054v65a1ecc5r6dc4ecb0e081dea0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4619BC8D.7000307@gmail.com>

我一般做 web 开发，catalyst+dbix+tt2

zongzi wrote:
> 俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。
>
> 工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。
>
> 平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。
>
> 绝对是最初级的用户了。
>
> 用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。
>
>   

From wanliyou at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 21:55:37 2007
From: wanliyou at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?1LXG8LrNus8=?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:55:37 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?UGVybCDKudPD?=
In-Reply-To: <4619BC8D.7000307@gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4619A7F3.7040606@gmail.com>
	<1700c2710704082054v65a1ecc5r6dc4ecb0e081dea0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4619BC8D.7000307@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41143d8f0704082155n4cccc1fem7039445d21970768@mail.gmail.com>

其实主要就是字符处理什么的，脚本管理，log处理，偶尔写个CGI

On 4/9/07, Fayland Lam <fayland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 我一般做 web 开发，catalyst+dbix+tt2
>
> zongzi wrote:
> > 俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。
> >
> > 工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。
> >
> > 平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。
> >
> > 绝对是最初级的用户了。
> >
> > 用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm




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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Sun Apr  8 22:46:50 2007
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:46:50 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gbk?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tqh40cga1agv8m@gentoo>

…… 怎么感觉这样的问题 有很多个人 问过了，难得是时光倒流……



在 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:58:56 +0800，Anders Lee <anderslee2003 at gmail.com> 写 
道:

> 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？
>
> On 4/8/07, alexe.cn at gmail.com <alexe.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 关注。
>>
>>
>> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
>> > >
>> > >在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写 
>> 道:
>> > >
>> > >> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
>> > >>
>> >
>> > Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
>> >
>> > --
>> > mailto: pangj at earthlink.net
>> > http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > China-pm mailing list
>> > China-pm at pm.org
>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>>
>>
>> --
>> +-----------------------------------------------+
>> |By Alexe (http://alexe.cublog.cn)|
>> +----------------------------------------------+
>> _______________________________________________
>> China-pm mailing list
>> China-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm



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From fayland at gmail.com  Sun Apr  8 22:55:06 2007
From: fayland at gmail.com (Fayland Lam)
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:55:06 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <op.tqh40cga1agv8m@gentoo>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>	<4001da2f0704081858p2cb00a55r7027742835d5b33c@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tqh40cga1agv8m@gentoo>
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Zhu Zhu wrote:
> …… 怎么感觉这样的问题 有很多个人 问过了，难得是时光倒流……
>
>
>   


hehe, 每天都有人加入有人退出。这世道循环的快。

-- 
Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/ 


From uliyas at gmail.com  Mon Apr  9 23:34:06 2007
From: uliyas at gmail.com (Uliyas Fan)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:34:06 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 24, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>

我想了解下用perl写的CGI的performance怎么样？他和其他的CGI，jsp，asp，php相比的优缺点各是什么？

我现在用perl主要写一些测试脚本，简单的快速的。因为我是做软件测试的。^_^


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>   2.  =?gb2312?b?UGVybCDKudPD?= (Qiang ( James ) Li)
>   3. Re:  Perl 使用 (zongzi)
>   4. Re:  Perl 使用 (Fayland Lam)
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>
> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: "Anders Lee" <anderslee2003 at gmail.com>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:58:56 +0900
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] YAPC::Beijing 2007何时召开？
> 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？
>
> On 4/8/07, alexe.cn at gmail.com <alexe.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 关注。
> >
> >
> > 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
> > > >
> > > >在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com > 写道:
> > > >
> > > >> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
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> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: "Qiang ( James ) Li" <shijialee at gmail.com>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:41:55 -0400
> Subject: [PerlChina] Perl 使用
> Anders Lee wrote:
> > 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> > 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> > 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> > 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> > 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？
>
>
> Perl 的功能很多。我工作的地方主要使用 Perl 写网络程序 ( 用
> CGI::Application )，其次是做系统自动化 ( 分析 log 等 ) 。
>
> 另外，这是个老话题了。perlchina 和 chinaunix 上都有类似的帖子。
>
> Qiang
>
>
>
> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:54:52 +0800
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] Perl 使用
> 俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。
>
> 工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。
>
> 平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。
>
> 绝对是最初级的用户了。
>
> 用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。
>
>
> 在 07-4-9，Qiang ( James ) Li<shijialee at gmail.com> 写道：
> > Anders Lee wrote:
> > > 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> > > 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> > > 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> > > 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> > > 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？
> >
> >
> > Perl 的功能很多。我工作的地方主要使用 Perl 写网络程序 ( 用
> > CGI::Application )，其次是做系统自动化 ( 分析 log 等 ) 。
> >
> > 另外，这是个老话题了。perlchina 和 chinaunix 上都有类似的帖子。
> >
> > Qiang
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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>
> --
> 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
>
>
> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: Fayland Lam <fayland at gmail.com>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 04:09:49 +0000
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] Perl 使用
> 我一般做 web 开发，catalyst+dbix+tt2
>
> zongzi wrote:
> > 俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。
> >
> > 工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。
> >
> > 平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。
> >
> > 绝对是最初级的用户了。
> >
> > 用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: "缘起和合" <wanliyou at gmail.com>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:55:37 +0800
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] Perl 使用
> 其实主要就是字符处理什么的，脚本管理，log处理，偶尔写个CGI
>
> On 4/9/07, Fayland Lam <fayland at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 我一般做 web 开发，catalyst+dbix+tt2
> >
> > zongzi wrote:
> > > 俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。
> > >
> > > 工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。
> > >
> > > 平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。
> > >
> > > 绝对是最初级的用户了。
> > >
> > > 用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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>
>
>
> --
> ------======Nerazzurri======------
>
> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: "Zhu Zhu" <zhuzhu at perlchina.org>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:46:50 +0800
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] YAPC::Beijing 2007何时召开？
> …… 怎么感觉这样的问题 有很多个人 问过了，难得是时光倒流……
>
>
>
> 在 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:58:56 +0800，Anders Lee <anderslee2003 at gmail.com> 写
> 道:
>
> > 我和大家一样也很关注perl。
> > 可我的主要工作基本上不用perl，perl也就是用来完成一些辅助的工作，
> > 比如制作简单的自动化工具什么的。
> > 大家谈谈自己的工作内容，如何？在哪些方面使用perl?
> > 对perl兴趣多一些呢，还是别的呢？
> >
> > On 4/8/07, alexe.cn at gmail.com <alexe.cn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 关注。
> >>
> >>
> >> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
> >> > >
> >> > >在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写
> >> 道:
> >> > >
> >> > >> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> > Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > mailto: pangj at earthlink.net
> >> > http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
> >> > _______________________________________________
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> >> > China-pm at pm.org
> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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> >> +----------------------------------------------+
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>
>
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>
>
>
> ---------- 已转发邮件 ----------
> From: Fayland Lam <fayland at gmail.com>
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:55:06 +0000
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] YAPC::Beijing 2007何时召开？
> Zhu Zhu wrote:
> > …… 怎么感觉这样的问题 有很多个人 问过了，难得是时光倒流……
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> hehe, 每天都有人加入有人退出。这世道循环的快。
>
> --
> Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
>
>
>
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From honghunter at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 01:17:18 2007
From: honghunter at gmail.com (zongzi)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:17:18 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?44CQ6K+35pWZ44CR5aSn6YeP5paH5qGj5aSE55CG?=
	=?utf-8?b?55qE5pe25YCZ77yM5oCO5LmI5L+d5oyB5Lit6Ze054q25oCB77yM5Lul?=
	=?utf-8?b?5L6/5YGc5q2i5ZCO6IO957un57ut6L+Q6KGM77yf?=
Message-ID: <1700c2710704100117j4338a87epcca8a316f54738a6@mail.gmail.com>

问一个可能很傻的问题：
我尝试抓取网上的小说看。
我还不会弄数据库什么的，我的处理过程就是：脚本+txt+批处理+wget。
脚本作些简单的数据提取，例如从一个用wget抓到的html网页中，取出URL，然后生成批处理文件。
TXT是我现在的各种数据的存储方式。
批处理的作用就是调用wget，把URL作为参数去下载网页。

现在的问题是，我希望能处理一部分之后，断了，还能继续接着处理。
该怎么处理这些正在下载、已经下载、等待下载什么的状态哪？
或者说，怎么用文件保存一个列表中处理了一半的位置，下次能从这里开始继续处理？


-- 
这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！

From shijialee at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 05:11:19 2007
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:11:19 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
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References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
	<e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <461B7EE7.6080402@gmail.com>

Err.. 请不要把 digest 的内容也包括到 email 里。

Uliyas Fan wrote:
> 我想了解下用perl写的CGI的performance怎么样？他和其他的CGI，jsp，asp，php 
> 相比的优缺点各是什么？

perl 写的 CGI 只适用于不要求速度，访问量小的环境，比如公司内部。在 CGI 
下，每次你的 .pl 或 .cgi 程序调用的时候都开启一个 perl process, 运行结束 
后，这个 perl process 就退出了。CGI 和 fastcgi 和 mod_perl 环境没法比。 
mod_perl 下， perl process ，module 等都 cache 到内存用来提速。

php 运行在 mod_php + apache 和 mod_perl 实现差不多。 jsp, asp 类似。具体 
速度比我就不清楚了。

> 我现在用perl主要写一些测试脚本，简单的快速的。因为我是做软件测试的。^_^
> 

Test::More! Test::Exception!! Test::WWW::Mechanize!!  我正试着在 Perl 开 
发中运用更多的 testing :)

> -- 
> 樊闻斌
> 
> 

Qiang

From nomas.zhou at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 08:00:32 2007
From: nomas.zhou at gmail.com (nomas)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:00:32 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] Beijing Perl Workshop
Message-ID: <158876750704100800r5108537at4120fd501950ac7@mail.gmail.com>

让大家期待已久的主题为Beijing Perl Workshop的2007YAPC::BEIJING，经过前期的准备，现在终于开始接受大家的报名。
perl爱好者以及对perl感兴趣的朋友可用通过www.yapc.org.cn报名参加。 同时请大家积极的参与演讲的环节。


2007YAPC::BEIJING筹备组
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From pangj at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 10 18:28:04 2007
From: pangj at earthlink.net (Jeff Pang)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:28:04 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 24, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
	<e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <913717600704101828r56a024e0rebfc34e5e025b26b@mail.gmail.com>

在07-4-10，Uliyas Fan <uliyas at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 我想了解下用perl写的CGI的performance怎么样？他和其他的CGI，jsp，asp，php相比的优缺点各是什么？
>
> 我现在用perl主要写一些测试脚本，简单的快速的。因为我是做软件测试的。^_^
>
>
>

Have heard that Perl's fastcgi is not as good as mod_perl.
Maybe writing fastcgi by C is better choice?



-- 
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http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
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From beckheng at perlchina.org  Wed Apr 11 06:40:06 2007
From: beckheng at perlchina.org (Beckheng Lam)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:40:06 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA35L2V5pe25Y+s5byA?=
	=?utf-8?b?77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <461CE536.8070709@perlchina.org>

南方这次有多少人去？

alexe.cn at gmail.com wrote:
> 关注。
>
>
> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
>   
>>> 在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
>>>>
>>>>         
>> Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
>>
>> --
>> mailto: pangj at earthlink.net
>> http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
>> _______________________________________________
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From jameswork66 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 22:58:12 2007
From: jameswork66 at gmail.com (james zheng)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:58:12 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <461CE536.8070709@perlchina.org>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<461CE536.8070709@perlchina.org>
Message-ID: <2e766b860704102258y2082f8fbu461bc3a072fd588c@mail.gmail.com>

什么时候有结果?



On 4/11/07, Beckheng Lam <beckheng at perlchina.org> wrote:
>
> 南方这次有多少人去？
>
> alexe.cn at gmail.com wrote:
>
> 关注。
>
>
> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> <pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
>
>
>  在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
>
>
>
> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
>
>
>
> Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
>
> --
> mailto: pangj at earthlink.nethttp://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing listChina-pm at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Tue Apr 10 23:08:56 2007
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:08:56 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gbk?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <2e766b860704102258y2082f8fbu461bc3a072fd588c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<461CE536.8070709@perlchina.org>
	<2e766b860704102258y2082f8fbu461bc3a072fd588c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.tqlvc6qw1agv8m@gentoo>

有结果？？

怎么感觉是搞的抽奖活动。。。  我在成都，不可能去，不是牛人，不是赞助商，只 
能发 Email....


在 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:58:12 +0800，james zheng <jameswork66 at gmail.com> 写 
道:

> 什么时候有结果?
>
>
>
> On 4/11/07, Beckheng Lam <beckheng at perlchina.org> wrote:
>>
>> 南方这次有多少人去？
>>
>> alexe.cn at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 关注。
>>
>>
>> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> <pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
>>
>>
>>  在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com>  
>> <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
>>
>>
>>
>> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
>>
>> --
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>> listChina-pm at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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>>
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From jameswork66 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 23:33:41 2007
From: jameswork66 at gmail.com (james zheng)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:33:41 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?WUFQQzo6QmVpamluZyAyMDA3us7KsdXZv6qjvw==?=
In-Reply-To: <op.tqlvc6qw1agv8m@gentoo>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4590d5230704080544q4632c455yd78df21e6ddaa2e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<461CE536.8070709@perlchina.org>
	<2e766b860704102258y2082f8fbu461bc3a072fd588c@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.tqlvc6qw1agv8m@gentoo>
Message-ID: <2e766b860704102333w71299db0md492748f99c4ad88@mail.gmail.com>

我也在成都.

On 4/11/07, Zhu Zhu <zhuzhu at perlchina.org> wrote:
>
> 有结果？？
>
> 怎么感觉是搞的抽奖活动。。。  我在成都，不可能去，不是牛人，不是赞助商，只
> 能发 Email....
>
>
> 在 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:58:12 +0800，james zheng <jameswork66 at gmail.com> 写
> 道:
>
> > 什么时候有结果?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/11/07, Beckheng Lam <beckheng at perlchina.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> 南方这次有多少人去？
> >>
> >> alexe.cn at gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> 关注。
> >>
> >>
> >> 在 07-4-5，Jeff Pang<pangj at earthlink.net> <pangj at earthlink.net> 写道：
> >>
> >>
> >>  在 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:24:25 +0800，nomas <nomas.zhou at gmail.com>
> >> <nomas.zhou at gmail.com> 写道:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 抱歉，这件事情一直在运作。请大家继续关注。
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just be curious,what's the topic for this meeting?
> >>
> >> --
> >> mailto: pangj at earthlink.nethttp://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> China-pm mailing
> >> listChina-pm at pm.orghttp://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> China-pm mailing list
> >> China-pm at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >>
>
>
>
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From wanmyome at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 19:21:59 2007
From: wanmyome at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?5LiH5pyd5Lyf?=)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:21:59 -0700
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
In-Reply-To: <461B7EE7.6080402@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
	<e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>
	<461B7EE7.6080402@gmail.com>
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大型应用谁也不敢只用一个单一的技术，往往还有代理技术
但是小型的应用Perl CGI还是够用的，不用担心

就Web程序而言，FastCGI比其他都快，其次是jsp，然后php，asp，mod_perl就差不多了，至于asp.net我没有测试过，
效率应该不差，估计和jsp差不多

我认为最重要的是开发速度和维护的效率，至于程序跑的效率，应该不是问题考虑的关键


在07-4-10，Qiang ( James ) Li <shijialee at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> Err.. 请不要把 digest 的内容也包括到 email 里。
>
> Uliyas Fan wrote:
> > 我想了解下用perl写的CGI的performance怎么样？他和其他的CGI，jsp，asp，php
> > 相比的优缺点各是什么？
>
> perl 写的 CGI 只适用于不要求速度，访问量小的环境，比如公司内部。在 CGI
> 下，每次你的 .pl 或 .cgi 程序调用的时候都开启一个 perl process, 运行结束
> 后，这个 perl process 就退出了。CGI 和 fastcgi 和 mod_perl 环境没法比。
> mod_perl 下， perl process ，module 等都 cache 到内存用来提速。
>
> php 运行在 mod_php + apache 和 mod_perl 实现差不多。 jsp, asp 类似。具体
> 速度比我就不清楚了。
>
> > 我现在用perl主要写一些测试脚本，简单的快速的。因为我是做软件测试的。^_^
> >
>
> Test::More! Test::Exception!! Test::WWW::Mechanize!!  我正试着在 Perl 开
> 发中运用更多的 testing :)
>
> > --
> > 樊闻斌
> >
> >
>
> Qiang
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From honghunter at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 20:40:04 2007
From: honghunter at gmail.com (zongzi)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:40:04 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?44CQ6K+35pWZ44CRcGVybOaPkOWPlue9kemhtVRY?=
	=?utf-8?b?VOaXtuWAmeeahOS5seeggemXrumimA==?=
Message-ID: <1700c2710704112040u772fb654s934a09b5691654ea@mail.gmail.com>

为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。

发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。

请教大家怎么才能解决？


附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。

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From warhua at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 22:03:32 2007
From: warhua at gmail.com (warhua)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:03:32 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
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Message-ID: <200704121303296256392@gmail.com>

但现在似乎很少人用perl cgi 了。。。。为什么呢？




warhua
2007-04-12



发件人： 万朝伟
发送时间： 2007-04-12 10:22:21
收件人： shijialee at gmail.com; china-pm at pm.org
抄送： 
主题： Re: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp

大型应用谁也不敢只用一个单一的技术，往往还有代理技术
但是小型的应用Perl CGI还是够用的，不用担心

就Web程序而言，FastCGI比其他都快，其次是jsp，然后php，asp，mod_perl就差不多了，至于asp.net我没有测试过，效率应该不差，估计和jsp差不多

我认为最重要的是开发速度和维护的效率，至于程序跑的效率，应该不是问题考虑的关键

 
在07-4-10，Qiang ( James ) Li <shijialee at gmail.com> 写道： 
Err.. 请不要把 digest 的内容也包括到 email 里。

Uliyas Fan wrote:
> 我想了解下用perl写的CGI的performance怎么样？他和其他的CGI，jsp，asp，php 
> 相比的优缺点各是什么？

perl 写的 CGI 只适用于不要求速度，访问量小的环境，比如公司内部。在 CGI
下，每次你的 .pl 或 .cgi 程序调用的时候都开启一个 perl process, 运行结束
后，这个 perl process 就退出了。CGI 和 fastcgi 和 mod_perl 环境没法比。
mod_perl 下， perl process ，module 等都 cache 到内存用来提速。 

php 运行在 mod_php + apache 和 mod_perl 实现差不多。 jsp, asp 类似。具体
速度比我就不清楚了。

> 我现在用perl主要写一些测试脚本，简单的快速的。因为我是做软件测试的。^_^
>

Test::More! Test::Exception!! Test::WWW::Mechanize!!  我正试着在 Perl 开
发中运用更多的 testing :) 

> --
> 樊闻斌
>
>

Qiang
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From pangj at earthlink.net  Wed Apr 11 22:28:21 2007
From: pangj at earthlink.net (Jeff Pang)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:28:21 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
In-Reply-To: <200704121303296256392@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
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	<461B7EE7.6080402@gmail.com>
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	<200704121303296256392@gmail.com>
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在07-4-12，warhua <warhua at gmail.com> 写道：
>
>  但现在似乎很少人用perl cgi 了。。。。为什么呢？
>
>

Perl CGI主要是性能不怎么好吧..不过现在CPU都够快,内存也够大,网站的访问速度其实更取决于网络带宽,
程序快慢那么几毫秒无关轻重.但对产品级站点来说,使用Perl CGI会带来一个问题,那就是访问量高时,CGI进程太耗资源.比如同样压力下
,C写的CGI能启动1000个进程,Perl的可能就只有500个了.
另外感觉大多数web程序能用CGI的,都转向PHP了.PHP在开发速度和性能2方面都兼顾的比较好.不过个人而言,我更喜欢用modperl.:)


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> http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
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From beckheng at perlchina.org  Thu Apr 12 09:32:03 2007
From: beckheng at perlchina.org (Beckheng Lam)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:32:03 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
In-Reply-To: <913717600704112228j693ef34dwcc7473bab94bd188@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>	<e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>	<461B7EE7.6080402@gmail.com>	<9ff89e80704111921s3060c214o45ee895ed0dda0d4@mail.gmail.com>	<200704121303296256392@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <461E5F03.9070102@perlchina.org>

现在很少讨论这个主题了吧。
^_^

Jeff Pang wrote:
>
>
> 在07-4-12，*warhua* <warhua at gmail.com <mailto:warhua at gmail.com>> 写道：
>
>     但现在似乎很少人用perl cgi 了。。。。为什么呢？
>
> Perl CGI主要是性能不怎么好吧..不过现在CPU都够快,内存也够大,网站的访问
> 速度其实更取决于网络带宽,程序快慢那么几毫秒无关轻重.但对产品级站点来
> 说,使用Perl CGI会带来一个问题,那就是访问量高时,CGI进程太耗资源.比如同
> 样压力下,C写的CGI能启动1000个进程,Perl的可能就只有500个了.
> 另外感觉大多数web程序能用CGI的,都转向PHP了.PHP在开发速度和性能2方面都
> 兼顾的比较好.不过个人而言,我更喜欢用 modperl.:)
>
>     -- 
>     mailto: pangj at earthlink.net <mailto:pangj at earthlink.net>
>     http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
>
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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Thu Apr 12 02:02:18 2007
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:02:18 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
In-Reply-To: <461E5F03.9070102@perlchina.org>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
	<e663a32a0704092334n6be02ad8jb001720ae810f536@mail.gmail.com>
	<461B7EE7.6080402@gmail.com>
	<9ff89e80704111921s3060c214o45ee895ed0dda0d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<200704121303296256392@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <op.tqnx14le1agv8m@gentoo>

我在 dreamhost 上用 fastcgi 运行 trac 错误日志为

	FastCGI: incomplete headers (0 bytes) received from server

用 CGI 没有问题，不过速度慢

在 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:32:03 +0800，Beckheng Lam <beckheng at perlchina.org>  
写道:

> 现在很少讨论这个主题了吧。
> ^_^
>
> Jeff Pang wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在07-4-12，*warhua* <warhua at gmail.com <mailto:warhua at gmail.com>> 写道：
>>
>>     但现在似乎很少人用perl cgi 了。。。。为什么呢？
>>
>> Perl CGI主要是性能不怎么好吧..不过现在CPU都够快,内存也够大,网站的访问
>> 速度其实更取决于网络带宽,程序快慢那么几毫秒无关轻重.但对产品级站点来
>> 说,使用Perl CGI会带来一个问题,那就是访问量高时,CGI进程太耗资源.比如同
>> 样压力下,C写的CGI能启动1000个进程,Perl的可能就只有500个了.
>> 另外感觉大多数web程序能用CGI的,都转向PHP了.PHP在开发速度和性能2方面都
>> 兼顾的比较好.不过个人而言,我更喜欢用 modperl.:)
>>
>>     --
>>     mailto: pangj at earthlink.net <mailto:pangj at earthlink.net>
>>     http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> China-pm mailing list
>> China-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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From wanliyou at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 03:02:31 2007
From: wanliyou at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?1LXG8LrNus8=?=)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:02:31 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?ob7H673Mob9wZXJszOHIoc340rNUWFTKsbrytcQ=?=
	=?gb2312?b?wtLC687KzOI=?=
In-Reply-To: <1700c2710704112040u772fb654s934a09b5691654ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1700c2710704112040u772fb654s934a09b5691654ea@mail.gmail.com>
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什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧

On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
>
> 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
>
> 请教大家怎么才能解决？
>
>
> 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
>
> --
> 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
>
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
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From yang.liana at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 03:38:42 2007
From: yang.liana at gmail.com (rorot)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:38:42 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
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	<461E5F03.9070102@perlchina.org>
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Beckheng Lam wrote:
> 现在很少讨论这个主题了吧。
> ^_^
>
> Jeff Pang wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在07-4-12，*warhua* <warhua at gmail.com <mailto:warhua at gmail.com>> 写道：
>>
>>     但现在似乎很少人用perl cgi 了。。。。为什么呢？
>>
>> Perl CGI主要是性能不怎么好吧..不过现在CPU都够快,内存也够大,网站的访问
>> 速度其实更取决于网络带宽,程序快慢那么几毫秒无关轻重.但对产品级站点来
>> 说,使用Perl CGI会带来一个问题,那就是访问量高时,CGI进程太耗资源.比如同
>> 样压力下,C写的CGI能启动1000个进程,Perl的可能就只有500个了.
>> 另外感觉大多数web程序能用CGI的,都转向PHP了.PHP在开发速度和性能2方面都
>> 兼顾的比较好.不过个人而言,我更喜欢用 modperl.:)
>>
>>     -- 
>>     mailto: pangj at earthlink.net <mailto:pangj at earthlink.net>
>>     http://home.arcor.de/jeffpang/
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> China-pm mailing list
>> China-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Perl写WEB程序还是很爽的！：）

From beckheng at perlchina.org  Fri Apr 13 01:49:01 2007
From: beckheng at perlchina.org (Beckheng Lam)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:49:01 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?44CQ6K+35pWZ44CRcGVybOaPkOWPlue9kemhtVRY?=
 =?utf-8?b?VOaXtuWAmeeahOS5seeggemXrumimA==?=
In-Reply-To: <41143d8f0704120302v1401be9bta51280b62b454db8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1700c2710704112040u772fb654s934a09b5691654ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<41143d8f0704120302v1401be9bta51280b62b454db8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <461F43FD.7070205@perlchina.org>

是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？

缘起和合 wrote:
> 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
>
> On 4/12/07, *zongzi* <honghunter at gmail.com 
> <mailto:honghunter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到
>     本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
>
>     发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
>
>     请教大家怎么才能解决？
>
>
>     附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
>
>     --
>     这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
>
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>     China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
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>
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From honghunter at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 17:56:06 2007
From: honghunter at gmail.com (zongzi)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:56:06 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?44CQ6K+35pWZ44CRcGVybOaPkOWPlue9kemhtVRY?=
	=?utf-8?b?VOaXtuWAmeeahOS5seeggemXrumimA==?=
In-Reply-To: <461F43FD.7070205@perlchina.org>
References: <1700c2710704112040u772fb654s934a09b5691654ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<41143d8f0704120302v1401be9bta51280b62b454db8@mail.gmail.com>
	<461F43FD.7070205@perlchina.org>
Message-ID: <1700c2710704121756q67cdb54asa70fa5c96e41e616@mail.gmail.com>

编辑器我用的UltraEdit32。

网页编码都是<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;
charset=gb2312"/>，还需要什么转换吗？


在 07-4-13，Beckheng Lam<beckheng at perlchina.org> 写道：
> 是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？
>
> 缘起和合 wrote:
> 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
>
> On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
> >
> > 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
> >
> > 请教大家怎么才能解决？
> >
> >
> > 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
> >
> > --
> > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ------======Nerazzurri======------
> ________________________________
>
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China-pm
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> list
China-pm at pm.org
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>


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From dongxu.ma at gmail.com  Thu Apr 12 21:05:12 2007
From: dongxu.ma at gmail.com (Dongxu Ma)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:05:12 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?ob7H673Mob9wZXJszOHIoc340rNUWFTKsbrytcQ=?=
	=?gb2312?b?wtLC687KzOI=?=
In-Reply-To: <1700c2710704121756q67cdb54asa70fa5c96e41e616@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1700c2710704112040u772fb654s934a09b5691654ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<41143d8f0704120302v1401be9bta51280b62b454db8@mail.gmail.com>
	<461F43FD.7070205@perlchina.org>
	<1700c2710704121756q67cdb54asa70fa5c96e41e616@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9bc0d5d20704122105v745c385nde7036f052c59148@mail.gmail.com>

`iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 p0.html' showed me Chinese inside that html,
which means while reading from html in your script, you need to decode
from GB2312. By something like:

1. Encode::decode("GB2312", <INPUT>)
2. bindmode INPUT, ":encoding('GB2312')"

在07-4-13，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 编辑器我用的UltraEdit32。
>
> 网页编码都是<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;
> charset=gb2312"/>，还需要什么转换吗？
>
>
> 在 07-4-13，Beckheng Lam<beckheng at perlchina.org> 写道：
> > 是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？
> >
> > 缘起和合 wrote:
> > 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
> >
> > On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
> > >
> > > 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
> > >
> > > 请教大家怎么才能解决？
> > >
> > >
> > > 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
> > >
> > > --
> > > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm mailing list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ------======Nerazzurri======------
> > ________________________________
> >
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm
> > mailing
> > list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
>
>
> --
> 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
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From shijialee at gmail.com  Fri Apr 13 18:26:34 2007
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:26:34 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] Fwd: Newsletter from O'Reilly UG Program, April 13
Message-ID: <46202DCA.9020400@gmail.com>

Oreilly 最新一期的 newsletter. ( 注： Oreilly 不定期赞助 perlchina 书籍 )

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 >
 > ---------------------
 > Mac
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 > ***Apple TV: State of the Hacks
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 > <http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2007/03/13/a-chat-with-nobi.html>
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 > ---------------------
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<http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2007/03/13/logging-with-custom-web-events.html>
 >
 > ---------------------
 > Java
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 > ***Controlling Threads by Example
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 > 
<http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2007/04/06/controlling-threads-by-example.html>
 >
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 > 
<http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2007/03/23/using-groovy-to-send-emails.html>
 >
 > ---------------------
 > Web
 > ---------------------
 > ***The Principles of Beautiful Web Design
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 > ***Making Money With Web Communities
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 > 
<http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/04/06/making-money-with-communities-part-1-problems/>
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From islue.hu at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 02:34:53 2007
From: islue.hu at gmail.com (islue)
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:34:53 +0900
Subject: [PerlChina] CGI vs php, asp
In-Reply-To: <op.tqnx14le1agv8m@gentoo>
References: <mailman.8.1176145209.25972.china-pm@pm.org>
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我也遇到过这个问题，咨询了DH客服才解决的。

http://islue.blogspot.com/2007/02/dreamhost-catalyst.html

在 07-4-12，Zhu Zhu<zhuzhu at perlchina.org> 写道：
> 我在 dreamhost 上用 fastcgi 运行 trac 错误日志为
>
>         FastCGI: incomplete headers (0 bytes) received from server
>
> 用 CGI 没有问题，不过速度慢
>
> --
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From honghunter at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 15:49:17 2007
From: honghunter at gmail.com (zongzi)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 06:49:17 +0800
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	=?utf-8?b?VOaXtuWAmeeahOS5seeggemXrumimA==?=
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	<41143d8f0704120302v1401be9bta51280b62b454db8@mail.gmail.com>
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就是说需要强制作一次转码才行？

在 07-4-13，Dongxu Ma<dongxu.ma at gmail.com> 写道：
> `iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 p0.html' showed me Chinese inside that html,
> which means while reading from html in your script, you need to decode
> from GB2312. By something like:
>
> 1. Encode::decode("GB2312", <INPUT>)
> 2. bindmode INPUT, ":encoding('GB2312')"
>
> 在07-4-13，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
> > 编辑器我用的UltraEdit32。
> >
> > 网页编码都是<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;
> > charset=gb2312"/>，还需要什么转换吗？
> >
> >
> > 在 07-4-13，Beckheng Lam<beckheng at perlchina.org> 写道：
> > > 是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？
> > >
> > > 缘起和合 wrote:
> > > 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
> > >
> > > On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
> > > >
> > > > 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
> > > >
> > > > 请教大家怎么才能解决？
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > China-pm mailing list
> > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ------======Nerazzurri======------
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm
> > > mailing
> > > list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm mailing list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
> --
> cheers,
> -dongxu
> __END__
> http://search.cpan.org/~dongxu
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>


-- 
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From dongxu.ma at gmail.com  Sat Apr 14 23:38:42 2007
From: dongxu.ma at gmail.com (Dongxu Ma)
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:38:42 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?ob7H673Mob9wZXJszOHIoc340rNUWFTKsbrytcQ=?=
	=?gb2312?b?wtLC687KzOI=?=
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	<41143d8f0704120302v1401be9bta51280b62b454db8@mail.gmail.com>
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	<9bc0d5d20704122105v745c385nde7036f052c59148@mail.gmail.com>
	<1700c2710704141549t55627217q74b28c754f6bf05a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9bc0d5d20704142338m57f1cd7n74305ce16b89ce65@mail.gmail.com>

yes, your input stream was encoded as GB2312.

在07-4-15，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 就是说需要强制作一次转码才行？
>
> 在 07-4-13，Dongxu Ma<dongxu.ma at gmail.com> 写道：
> > `iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 p0.html' showed me Chinese inside that html,
> > which means while reading from html in your script, you need to decode
> > from GB2312. By something like:
> >
> > 1. Encode::decode("GB2312", <INPUT>)
> > 2. bindmode INPUT, ":encoding('GB2312')"
> >
> > 在07-4-13，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
> > > 编辑器我用的UltraEdit32。
> > >
> > > 网页编码都是<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;
> > > charset=gb2312"/>，还需要什么转换吗？
> > >
> > >
> > > 在 07-4-13，Beckheng Lam<beckheng at perlchina.org> 写道：
> > > > 是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？
> > > >
> > > > 缘起和合 wrote:
> > > > 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
> > > >
> > > > On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
> > > > >
> > > > > 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
> > > > >
> > > > > 请教大家怎么才能解决？
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > China-pm mailing list
> > > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ------======Nerazzurri======------
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm
> > > > mailing
> > > > list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > China-pm mailing list
> > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm mailing list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > cheers,
> > -dongxu
> > __END__
> > http://search.cpan.org/~dongxu
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
>
>
> --
> 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm




-- 
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-dongxu
__END__
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 00:07:19 2007
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Xu)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:07:19 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?ob7H673Mob9wZXJszOHIoc340rNUWFTKsbrytcQ=?=
	=?gb2312?b?wtLC687KzOI=?=
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	<1700c2710704121756q67cdb54asa70fa5c96e41e616@mail.gmail.com>
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perl中处理中文的原则：

让中文字符串在perl中以utf8的形式存在。一个字符串进来的时候如果是其他编码，先转成utf8，出去的时候再转成相应的编码。这样可以保证任何操作都不出错。

在07-4-15，Dongxu Ma <dongxu.ma at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> yes, your input stream was encoded as GB2312.
>
> 在07-4-15，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > 就是说需要强制作一次转码才行？
> >
> > 在 07-4-13，Dongxu Ma<dongxu.ma at gmail.com> 写道：
> > > `iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 p0.html' showed me Chinese inside that html,
> > > which means while reading from html in your script, you need to decode
> >
> > > from GB2312. By something like:
> > >
> > > 1. Encode::decode("GB2312", <INPUT>)
> > > 2. bindmode INPUT, ":encoding('GB2312')"
> > >
> > > 在07-4-13，zongzi < honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
> > > > 编辑器我用的UltraEdit32。
> > > >
> > > > 网页编码都是<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;
> > > > charset=gb2312"/>，还需要什么转换吗？
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 在 07-4-13，Beckheng Lam<beckheng at perlchina.org> 写道：
> > > > > 是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？
> > > > >
> > > > > 缘起和合 wrote:
> > > > > 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
> > > > >
> > > > > On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 请教大家怎么才能解决？
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > China-pm mailing list
> > > > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > ------======Nerazzurri======------
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > China-pm
> > > > > mailing
> > > > > list
> > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > China-pm mailing list
> > > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > China-pm mailing list
> > > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > cheers,
> > > -dongxu
> > > __END__
> > > http://search.cpan.org/~dongxu <http://search.cpan.org/%7Edongxu>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm mailing list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
>
> --
> cheers,
> -dongxu
> __END__
> http://search.cpan.org/~dongxu <http://search.cpan.org/%7Edongxu>
>
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>



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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 00:16:48 2007
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Xu)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:16:48 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?ob7H673Mob+088G/zsS1tbSmwO21xMqxuvKjrNT1?=
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Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80704170016i4ad34306kd8dda4c466e88dd@mail.gmail.com>

使用现成的数据存储方案，比如bdb，mysql，或者自己定义文件存储。记录下每个url的状态（已抓/未抓）即可。

在07-4-10，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 问一个可能很傻的问题：
> 我尝试抓取网上的小说看。
> 我还不会弄数据库什么的，我的处理过程就是：脚本+txt+批处理+wget。
> 脚本作些简单的数据提取，例如从一个用wget抓到的html网页中，取出URL，然后生成批处理文件。
> TXT是我现在的各种数据的存储方式。
> 批处理的作用就是调用wget，把URL作为参数去下载网页。
>
> 现在的问题是，我希望能处理一部分之后，断了，还能继续接着处理。
> 该怎么处理这些正在下载、已经下载、等待下载什么的状态哪？
> 或者说，怎么用文件保存一个列表中处理了一半的位置，下次能从这里开始继续处理？
>
>
> --
> 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm




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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 00:19:32 2007
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Xu)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:19:32 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?UGVybCDKudPD?=
In-Reply-To: <41143d8f0704082155n4cccc1fem7039445d21970768@mail.gmail.com>
References: <30100259.1175787997613.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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现在的工作有机会用perl写分布式文件系统。以前也就是主要拿来写辅助工具。

在07-4-9，缘起和合 <wanliyou at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 其实主要就是字符处理什么的，脚本管理，log处理，偶尔写个CGI
>
> On 4/9/07, Fayland Lam <fayland at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 我一般做 web 开发，catalyst+dbix+tt2
> >
> > zongzi wrote:
> > > 俺第一次接触perl，是玩RO（网络游戏：仙境传说）的时候，有个perl写的外挂。
> > >
> > > 工作中极少用到，只用来处理过一次log文件。
> > >
> > > 平时主要是用来抓取点网页，提取点数据什么的。批量修改些文本什么的。
> > >
> > > 绝对是最初级的用户了。
> > >
> > > 用的代码基本都是在别人基础上，修改一点点就使用的。
> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
>
> --
> ------======Nerazzurri======------
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>



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From wanmyome at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 00:29:16 2007
From: wanmyome at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?5LiH5pyd5Lyf?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:29:16 -0700
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?44CQ6K+35pWZ44CR5aSn6YeP5paH5qGj5aSE55CG?=
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建议复制粘贴

在07-4-17，Achilles Xu <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 使用现成的数据存储方案，比如bdb，mysql，或者自己定义文件存储。记录下每个url的状态（已抓/未抓）即可。
>
> 在07-4-10，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > 问一个可能很傻的问题：
> > 我尝试抓取网上的小说看。
> > 我还不会弄数据库什么的，我的处理过程就是：脚本+txt+批处理+wget。
> > 脚本作些简单的数据提取，例如从一个用wget抓到的html网页中，取出URL，然后生成批处理文件。
> > TXT是我现在的各种数据的存储方式。
> > 批处理的作用就是调用wget，把URL作为参数去下载网页。
> >
> > 现在的问题是，我希望能处理一部分之后，断了，还能继续接着处理。
> > 该怎么处理这些正在下载、已经下载、等待下载什么的状态哪？
> > 或者说，怎么用文件保存一个列表中处理了一半的位置，下次能从这里开始继续处理？
> >
> >
> > --
> > 这是一个有钱人的世界，与我的世界截然不同！
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------
> Achilles Xu
> http://www.lazycode.org/achilles/
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
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From dongxu.ma at gmail.com  Tue Apr 17 02:28:01 2007
From: dongxu.ma at gmail.com (Dongxu Ma)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:28:01 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
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wget -c

在07-4-17，Achilles Xu <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 使用现成的数据存储方案，比如bdb，mysql，或者自己定义文件存储。记录下每个url的状态（已抓/未抓）即可。
>
> 在07-4-10，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> > 问一个可能很傻的问题：
> > 我尝试抓取网上的小说看。
> > 我还不会弄数据库什么的，我的处理过程就是：脚本+txt+批处理+wget。
> > 脚本作些简单的数据提取，例如从一个用wget抓到的html网页中，取出URL，然后生成批处理文件。
> > TXT是我现在的各种数据的存储方式。
> > 批处理的作用就是调用wget，把URL作为参数去下载网页。
> >
> > 现在的问题是，我希望能处理一部分之后，断了，还能继续接着处理。
> > 该怎么处理这些正在下载、已经下载、等待下载什么的状态哪？
> > 或者说，怎么用文件保存一个列表中处理了一半的位置，下次能从这里开始继续处理？
> >
> >
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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Tue Apr 17 02:37:01 2007
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:37:01 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
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没有遇到过，我只遇到过 1G - 2G 的日志处理，不过我不知道怎么才能合理读取这么 
大的文件，
要求是从日志文件中每天提取前一天的记录。到每个月 20号的时候就用差不多2G了， 
请问
对于这种大日志文件我该怎么做呢？


在 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:07:19 +0800，Achilles Xu <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写 
道:

> perl中处理中文的原则：
>
> 让中文字符串在perl中以utf8的形式存在。一个字符串进来的时候如果是其他编 
> 码，先转成utf8，出去的时候再转成相应的编码。这样可以保证任何操作都不出 
> 错。
>
> 在07-4-15，Dongxu Ma <dongxu.ma at gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>> yes, your input stream was encoded as GB2312.
>>
>> 在07-4-15，zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
>> >
>> > 就是说需要强制作一次转码才行？
>> >
>> > 在 07-4-13，Dongxu Ma<dongxu.ma at gmail.com> 写道：
>> > > `iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 p0.html' showed me Chinese inside that  
>> html,
>> > > which means while reading from html in your script, you need to  
>> decode
>> >
>> > > from GB2312. By something like:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Encode::decode("GB2312", <INPUT>)
>> > > 2. bindmode INPUT, ":encoding('GB2312')"
>> > >
>> > > 在07-4-13，zongzi < honghunter at gmail.com> 写道：
>> > > > 编辑器我用的UltraEdit32。
>> > > >
>> > > > 网页编码都是<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html;
>> > > > charset=gb2312"/>，还需要什么转换吗？
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 在 07-4-13，Beckheng Lam<beckheng at perlchina.org> 写道：
>> > > > > 是不是跟gbk或者utf8有关？
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 缘起和合 wrote:
>> > > > > 什么编辑器干的？确实很乱，用VIM吧
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 4/12/07, zongzi <honghunter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > 为了方便放在PDA上面看小说，我用wget把网页（是新浪读书频道）下载到本 
>> 机，然后用perl去把其中的正文提取出来。
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 发现弄出来的txt文档中，有好多乱码（用记事本打开看的时候）。
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 请教大家怎么才能解决？
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 附件是我的代码，写的非常乱。真是不好意思了。
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
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