From fayland at gmail.com  Fri May 19 03:01:23 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (Fayland Lam)
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:01:23 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] [Fwd: Catalyst developers in Beijing,
	China want to hang out?]
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From jzhou722 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 01:12:35 2006
From: jzhou722 at gmail.com (Jie)
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:12:35 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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???wiki????,????????????,???????
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From jzhou722 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 01:17:15 2006
From: jzhou722 at gmail.com (Jie)
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 16:17:15 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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sorry，前一封编码可能不对。

我是说今天去看了一下wiki，似乎乏人维护，很多垃圾页面。
想召唤一下大家多关注一下wiki，毕竟还是花了不少心血，上面有不少好文章的。

klaus
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Sun May 21 18:44:01 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:44:01 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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唉，不光如此哦。
看看邮件列表也是很冷清啊。
倒是Python的邮件列表非常热闹。

像我开始用Perl的时候会问几个问题，后来学会了看pod, 就一般都看pod.深一点，难一点的问题又直接去了相关的邮件列表发mail问。

新手少得很啊。
发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后继无人啊。

是不是各位老大们有些什么高着说说看？
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Sun May 21 19:29:34 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:29:34 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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我很幸运的成为了新手
嘿嘿
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From huaz at nanjing-fnst.com  Sun May 21 19:34:14 2006
From: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com (Hua Zhen)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:34:14 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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作为一个新手，我一直是潜水的……

因为我的主要工作是用c/c++， perl只是在偶尔才使用，所以接触perl到现在也有
好几年了，用perl写的脚本累计不超过2k行……

因此冒个泡继续潜水……各位大大们尽情展示你们的风采吧……俺搬个板凳来学习……

或者大大们定期搞个议题讨论一下？或者搞个面向新人的入门指导？

Gao Aaron 写道:
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From glumtail at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:00:19 2006
From: glumtail at gmail.com (glumtail)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:00:19 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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这个观点真是太好了 :-)

黄叶 wrote:
> 唉，不光如此哦。
>
> 新手少得很啊。
> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> 继无人啊。
>

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From tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn  Sun May 21 20:12:42 2006
From: tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn (tiantao)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:12:42 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
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From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
To: <china-pm at pm.org>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki


> 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> 
> 黄叶 wrote:
>> 唉，不光如此哦。
>>
>> 新手少得很啊。
>> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
>> 继无人啊。
>>
> 
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From sangshuduo at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:18:15 2006
From: sangshuduo at gmail.com (Shuduo Sang)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:18:15 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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	<74646cb40605211844h4b4e7742ya9ea28a97c8e9f8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<44712943.9000600@gmail.com> <003001c67d4d$97db18f0$9374423b@mytomato>
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我也是新手，请教个问题先：
函数参数为四个@，象这样：
sub function(@@@@)
{
    ...
}
这个是什么用法？

On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> 我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
> To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
>
>
> > 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> >
> > 黄叶 wrote:
> >> 唉，不光如此哦。
> >>
> >> 新手少得很啊。
> >> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> >> 继无人啊。
> >>
> >
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From joejiang799 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:25:29 2006
From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:25:29 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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就是四个数组作为参数，还有其他的标点符号（$%）也可以这样用的。

2006/5/22, Shuduo Sang <sangshuduo at gmail.com>:
>
> 我也是新手，请教个问题先：
> 函数参数为四个@，象这样：
> sub function(@@@@)
> {
>     ...
> }
> 这个是什么用法？
>
> On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> > 我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
> > To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
> >
> >
> > > 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> > >
> > > 黄叶 wrote:
> > >> 唉，不光如此哦。
> > >>
> > >> 新手少得很啊。
> > >> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> > >> 继无人啊。
> > >>
> > >
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From tinyu0 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:32:33 2006
From: tinyu0 at gmail.com (chen ken)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:32:33 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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数组的引用也可以吧，因为还有另外一种函数原型定义
sub function(\@\@\@\@)
{
    ...
}
貌似这种函数原型就必须传入数组作为参数，
书上看的，有点模糊了，不知道对不对

ps:perl新手，最近因工作需要刚学的，呵呵

在06-5-22，Joe Jiang <joejiang799 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 就是四个数组作为参数，还有其他的标点符号（$%）也可以这样用的。
>
> 2006/5/22, Shuduo Sang <sangshuduo at gmail.com>:
>
> > 我也是新手，请教个问题先：
> > 函数参数为四个@，象这样：
> > sub function(@@@@)
> > {
> >     ...
> > }
> > 这个是什么用法？
> >
> > On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> > > 我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
> > > To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
> > >
> > >
> > > > 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> > > >
> > > > 黄叶 wrote:
> > > >> 唉，不光如此哦。
> > > >>
> > > >> 新手少得很啊。
> > > >> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> > > >> 继无人啊。
> > > >>
> > > >
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:39:24 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:39:24 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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是perl6吗？perl5的函数不是没有原型吗？

On 5/22/06, chen ken <tinyu0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 数组的引用也可以吧，因为还有另外一种函数原型定义
> sub function(\@\@\@\@)
> {
>     ...
> }
> 貌似这种函数原型就必须传入数组作为参数，
> 书上看的，有点模糊了，不知道对不对
>
> ps:perl新手，最近因工作需要刚学的，呵呵
>
> 在06-5-22，Joe Jiang <joejiang799 at gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> >  就是四个数组作为参数，还有其他的标点符号（$%）也可以这样用的。
>
> 2006/5/22, Shuduo Sang <sangshuduo at gmail.com >:
>
> > 我也是新手，请教个问题先：
> > 函数参数为四个@，象这样：
> > sub function(@@@@)
> > {
> >     ...
> > }
> > 这个是什么用法？
> >
> > On 5/22/06, tiantao < tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> > > 我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
> > > To: < china-pm at pm.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
> > >
> > >
> > > > 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> > > >
> > > > 黄叶 wrote:
> > > >> 唉，不光如此哦。
> > > >>
> > > >> 新手少得很啊。
> > > >> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> > > >> 继无人啊。
> > > >>
> > > >
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From tinyu0 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:53:17 2006
From: tinyu0 at gmail.com (chen ken)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:53:17 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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perl5,函数原型是可选的吧

<<Perl语言编程>>我从这本书上看得，好像在 子进程 那章讲的。个人认为这本书看起来很费劲，当工具书翻翻可能比较合适。
初学者看<<learning perl>>比较好(e文的e书，中文书好像买不到)。

perl6我还没时间去了解呢。

在06-5-22，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 是perl6吗？perl5的函数不是没有原型吗？
>
> On 5/22/06, chen ken <tinyu0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 数组的引用也可以吧，因为还有另外一种函数原型定义
> sub function(\@\@\@\@)
> {
>     ...
> }
> 貌似这种函数原型就必须传入数组作为参数，
> 书上看的，有点模糊了，不知道对不对
>
> ps:perl新手，最近因工作需要刚学的，呵呵
>
> 在06-5-22，Joe Jiang <joejiang799 at gmail.com > 写道：
> >
> >  就是四个数组作为参数，还有其他的标点符号（$%）也可以这样用的。
>
> 2006/5/22, Shuduo Sang <sangshuduo at gmail.com >:
>
> > 我也是新手，请教个问题先：
> > 函数参数为四个@，象这样：
> > sub function(@@@@)
> > {
> >     ...
> > }
> > 这个是什么用法？
> >
> > On 5/22/06, tiantao < tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> > > 我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
> > > To: < china-pm at pm.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
> > >
> > >
> > > > 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> > > >
> > > > 黄叶 wrote:
> > > >> 唉，不光如此哦。
> > > >>
> > > >> 新手少得很啊。
> > > >> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> > > >> 继无人啊。
> > > >>
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From yonghua.peng at gmail.com  Sun May 21 20:53:43 2006
From: yonghua.peng at gmail.com (Yonghua (Jeff))
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:53:43 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605212039i6343d103gd98188e21774fef7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002e01c67cae$fe218080$6517170a@bell>
	<74646cb40605211844h4b4e7742ya9ea28a97c8e9f8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<44712943.9000600@gmail.com> <003001c67d4d$97db18f0$9374423b@mytomato>
	<ee101c360605212018r53f8d00cv761acdb721299f7f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<29a998c0605212032s68a8f7b2s1fd0df81fb08a1f8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605212039i6343d103gd98188e21774fef7@mail.gmail.com>
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不是perl6。perl5里申明原型没有问题。

在06-5-22，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 是perl6吗？perl5的函数不是没有原型吗？
>
>  On 5/22/06, chen ken <tinyu0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  数组的引用也可以吧，因为还有另外一种函数原型定义
> sub function(\@\@\@\@)
> {
>     ...
> }
> 貌似这种函数原型就必须传入数组作为参数，
> 书上看的，有点模糊了，不知道对不对
>
> ps:perl新手，最近因工作需要刚学的，呵呵
>
> 在06-5-22，Joe Jiang <joejiang799 at gmail.com > 写道：
> >
> >  就是四个数组作为参数，还有其他的标点符号（$%）也可以这样用的。
>
> 2006/5/22, Shuduo Sang <sangshuduo at gmail.com >:
>
> > 我也是新手，请教个问题先：
> > 函数参数为四个@，象这样：
> > sub function(@@@@)
> > {
> >     ...
> > }
> > 这个是什么用法？
> >
> > On 5/22/06, tiantao < tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> > > 我是新手 呵呵 希望大家没事的时候贴点短小有用的程序 供我们新手学习：）
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "glumtail" <glumtail at gmail.com>
> > > To: < china-pm at pm.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
> > >
> > >
> > > > 这个观点真是太好了 :-)
> > > >
> > > > 黄叶 wrote:
> > > >> 唉，不光如此哦。
> > > >>
> > > >> 新手少得很啊。
> > > >> 发现没有新手也是一个比较严重的问题啊。 没有新手就意味着chinese的perl后
> > > >> 继无人啊。
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > Email: glumtail at gmail.com
> > > >
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Sun May 21 21:13:24 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:13:24 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
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	<44712943.9000600@gmail.com> <003001c67d4d$97db18f0$9374423b@mytomato>
	<ee101c360605212018r53f8d00cv761acdb721299f7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6d662d0605212025t47944756m276bca5ff818120c@mail.gmail.com>
	<29a998c0605212032s68a8f7b2s1fd0df81fb08a1f8@mail.gmail.com>
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Perl5里的原型的用法。
就是表示你在调用这个函数的时候，必须的使用和你原型里说明的数据类型。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Sun May 21 23:06:24 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:06:24 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
Message-ID: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>

HI, 各位，
我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？

谢谢。
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From tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn  Sun May 21 23:33:50 2006
From: tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn (tiantao)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:33:50 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001001c67d69$b09990d0$9374423b@mytomato>

图片验证码就是为了防止程序登陆的吧，如果没有验证码，应该如何通过perl登陆到网站呢
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 黄叶 
  To: china-pm at pm.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:06 PM
  Subject: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题


  HI, 各位，
  我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
  但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
  请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？

  谢谢。




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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Sun May 21 23:54:56 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:54:56 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <001001c67d69$b09990d0$9374423b@mytomato>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<001001c67d69$b09990d0$9374423b@mytomato>
Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80605212354p27105b47j10bcfe5d20fe51a2@mail.gmail.com>

看起来不像partner，倒像小偷。

On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
>
>  图片验证码就是为了防止程序登陆的吧，如果没有验证码，应该如何通过perl登陆到网站呢
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com>
> *To:* china-pm at pm.org
> *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2006 2:06 PM
> *Subject:* [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>
>
> HI, 各位，
> 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>
> 谢谢。
>
>
>
>
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From yonghua.peng at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:09:58 2006
From: yonghua.peng at gmail.com (Yonghua (Jeff))
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:09:58 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<001001c67d69$b09990d0$9374423b@mytomato>
	<4a6c0ba80605212354p27105b47j10bcfe5d20fe51a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <838104a80605220009y651efb5ase725eab13c882495@mail.gmail.com>

怀疑用于注册机程序，:-)
很多人破解了163的注册识别图片，我们为此头疼。
可以去网上搜索下有没有现成的代码。


在06-5-22，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 看起来不像partner，倒像小偷。
>
>
> On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
> >
> >  图片验证码就是为了防止程序登陆的吧，如果没有验证码，应该如何通过perl登陆到网站呢
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com>
> > *To:* china-pm at pm.org
> > *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2006 2:06 PM
> > *Subject:* [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
> >
> >
> > HI, 各位，
> > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> >
> > 谢谢。
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From fayland at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:14:42 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:14:42 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>

黄叶 wrote:
> HI, 各位，
> 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后
> 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>
> 谢谢。

这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那验证码
就没有用了。
曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。

>
>
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:17:47 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:17:47 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
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	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>

也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比较费劲。

On 5/22/06, fayland <fayland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 黄叶 wrote:
> > HI, 各位，
> > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后
> > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> >
> > 谢谢。
>
> 这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那验证码
> 就没有用了。
> 曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
>
> >
> >
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From fayland at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:22:07 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:22:07 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4471669F.5090507@gmail.com>

Achilles Achilles wrote:
> 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比
> 较费劲。

一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不是由几个字
母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且图片可能由
GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。

>
> On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>     黄叶 wrote:
>     > HI, 各位，
>     > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上，
>     然后
>     > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>     > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>     > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>     >
>     > 谢谢。
>
>     这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那
>     验证码
>     就没有用了。
>     曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > China-pm mailing list
>     > China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
>     > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>     <http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm>
>
>
>     --
>     Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     China-pm mailing list
>     China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> ---------------------------
> Achilles Xu
> http://www.formalin14.org
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:25:07 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:25:07 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>

呵呵。
肯定不是小偷。
这一点可以放心。

我也像个这个问题。
就是把图片抓回来，然后分析一把，
不过，我们是做搜索的，partner 很多。
没有验证码的就好办。有验证码的也有分别，有干扰色的问题大一点，没有干扰色的可能简单一点，
现在就一点头绪都没有。

麻烦。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:26:05 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:26:05 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <4471669F.5090507@gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<4471669F.5090507@gmail.com>
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看随机程度了，如果不是连位置和字体都随机，换做是我还是会愿意破一下的。
读取图片很简单，都有现成的lib。


On 5/22/06, fayland <fayland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Achilles Achilles wrote:
> > 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比
> > 较费劲。
>
> 一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不是由几个字
> 母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
> 我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且图片可能由
> GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。
>
> >
> > On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     黄叶 wrote:
> >     > HI, 各位，
> >     > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上，
> >     然后
> >     > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> >     > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> >     > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> >     >
> >     > 谢谢。
> >
> >     这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那
> >     验证码
> >     就没有用了。
> >     曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
> >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >     >
> >     > _______________________________________________
> >     > China-pm mailing list
> >     > China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
> >     > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >     <http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm>
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     China-pm mailing list
> >     China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
> >     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------
> > Achilles Xu
> > http://www.formalin14.org
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
> --
> Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
>
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm




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From huaz at nanjing-fnst.com  Mon May 22 00:24:52 2006
From: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com (Hua Zhen)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:24:52 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?6aqM6K+B56CB55qE56C06Kej55qE6Zeu6aKY?=
In-Reply-To: <4471669F.5090507@gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<4471669F.5090507@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44716744.8020506@nanjing-fnst.com>

感觉牵扯到模式识别了，做肯定能做，总不会比指纹识别更复杂吧，但是可能多花 
一袋烟的功夫未必能搞定的吧？

fayland 写道:
> Achilles Achilles wrote:
>   
>> 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比
>> 较费劲。
>>     
>
> 一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不是由几个字
> 母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
> 我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且图片可能由
> GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。
>
>   
>> On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     黄叶 wrote:
>>     > HI, 各位，
>>     > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上，
>>     然后
>>     > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>>     > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>>     > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>>     >
>>     > 谢谢。
>>
>>     这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那
>>     验证码
>>     就没有用了。
>>     曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
>>
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     >
>>     > _______________________________________________
>>     > China-pm mailing list
>>     > China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
>>     > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>>     <http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm>
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     China-pm mailing list
>>     China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
>>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ---------------------------
>> Achilles Xu
>> http://www.formalin14.org
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> China-pm mailing list
>> China-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>>     
>
>
>   

-- 
 
Best Regards
--------------------------------------------------
Hua Zhen
Dept. of Technology and Development 
Nanjing Fujitsu Nanda Software Tech. Co., Ltd.(FNST)
No.189, Guangzhou Rd.,Nanjing, P.R.China 
Civil Defense Building 8F 
PostCode: 210029      
PHONE: +86+25-86630523-832
FUJITSU INTERNAL: 79955-832
FAX: +86+25-83317685  
Mail: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com 
--------------------------------------------------



From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:28:01 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:28:01 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <44716744.8020506@nanjing-fnst.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<4471669F.5090507@gmail.com> <44716744.8020506@nanjing-fnst.com>
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一袋烟盖楼都够了。

On 5/22/06, Hua Zhen <huaz at nanjing-fnst.com> wrote:
>
> 感觉牵扯到模式识别了，做肯定能做，总不会比指纹识别更复杂吧，但是可能多花
> 一袋烟的功夫未必能搞定的吧？
>
> fayland 写道:
> > Achilles Achilles wrote:
> >
> >> 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比
> >> 较费劲。
> >>
> >
> > 一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不是由几个字
> > 母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
> > 我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且图片可能由
> > GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。
> >
> >
> >> On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>     黄叶 wrote:
> >>     > HI, 各位，
> >>     > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上，
> >>     然后
> >>     > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> >>     > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> >>     > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> >>     >
> >>     > 谢谢。
> >>
> >>     这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那
> >>     验证码
> >>     就没有用了。
> >>     曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
> >>
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>     >
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>     >
> >>     > _______________________________________________
> >>     > China-pm mailing list
> >>     > China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
> >>     > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >>     <http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm>
> >>
> >>
> >>     --
> >>     Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
> >>
> >>     _______________________________________________
> >>     China-pm mailing list
> >>     China-pm at pm.org <mailto:China-pm at pm.org>
> >>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ---------------------------
> >> Achilles Xu
> >> http://www.formalin14.org
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> China-pm mailing list
> >> China-pm at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> Best Regards
> --------------------------------------------------
> Hua Zhen
> Dept. of Technology and Development
> Nanjing Fujitsu Nanda Software Tech. Co., Ltd.(FNST)
> No.189, Guangzhou Rd.,Nanjing, P.R.China
> Civil Defense Building 8F
> PostCode: 210029
> PHONE: +86+25-86630523-832
> FUJITSU INTERNAL: 79955-832
> FAX: +86+25-83317685
> Mail: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:30:33 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:30:33 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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:)

请指点一下。
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:33:25 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:33:25 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605212113h4b212702x1af774d75da7e5df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002e01c67cae$fe218080$6517170a@bell>
	<74646cb40605211844h4b4e7742ya9ea28a97c8e9f8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<44712943.9000600@gmail.com> <003001c67d4d$97db18f0$9374423b@mytomato>
	<ee101c360605212018r53f8d00cv761acdb721299f7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6d662d0605212025t47944756m276bca5ff818120c@mail.gmail.com>
	<29a998c0605212032s68a8f7b2s1fd0df81fb08a1f8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605212039i6343d103gd98188e21774fef7@mail.gmail.com>
	<838104a80605212053o29309535w1daffb9ae6048e8@mail.gmail.com>
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Perl6开发到什么程度了?
好象好多年了呢
希望早些成型
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:29:27 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:29:27 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
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163的注册码看不清。
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:36:59 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:36:59 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
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挺高深的话题
搬个板凳坐着看...
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:36:53 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:36:53 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220029m5f006629j39af964ef76bbf63@mail.gmail.com>
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找出特征位和特征坐标，比如说6，右上是空的，而9右上有笔画，左下是空的。


On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> :)
>
> 请指点一下。
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:41:24 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:41:24 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220029m5f006629j39af964ef76bbf63@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220030x8c9e1aar81265dce63c7c52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220036m15ca4713j36d7f434fd4bd7f9@mail.gmail.com>
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HI, Achilles.
有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:43:02 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:43:02 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220041l590a27a6n9921f246ef157a35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>
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是指定颜色的区域坐标。

或者说是根据给定的颜色，读出某一点的坐标。

晕。都不知道怎么表达了。




在06-5-22，黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> HI, Achilles.
> 有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
> 我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
> 我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:43:54 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:43:54 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] wiki
In-Reply-To: <151e51480605220033x2464312l28ef2f255393e0af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002e01c67cae$fe218080$6517170a@bell> <44712943.9000600@gmail.com>
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	<ee101c360605212018r53f8d00cv761acdb721299f7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6d662d0605212025t47944756m276bca5ff818120c@mail.gmail.com>
	<29a998c0605212032s68a8f7b2s1fd0df81fb08a1f8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605212039i6343d103gd98188e21774fef7@mail.gmail.com>
	<838104a80605212053o29309535w1daffb9ae6048e8@mail.gmail.com>
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可以到perl6的开发主页上看一下。
Miss tang在主持。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:44:52 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:44:52 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220041l590a27a6n9921f246ef157a35@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220029m5f006629j39af964ef76bbf63@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220030x8c9e1aar81265dce63c7c52@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220036m15ca4713j36d7f434fd4bd7f9@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220041l590a27a6n9921f246ef157a35@mail.gmail.com>
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gd应该可以啊，不行就去cpan上再找找吧。

On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> HI, Achilles.
> 有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
> 我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
> 我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
>
>
>
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:47:19 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:47:19 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605220044u323d6578s44e2efd39104f027@mail.gmail.com>
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	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220017m68914737md5c95d520e80b661@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220029m5f006629j39af964ef76bbf63@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220030x8c9e1aar81265dce63c7c52@mail.gmail.com>
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另外遇到验证码的时候能不能显示出来，让人手动输入一下，做半自动的机器人。

On 5/22/06, Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> gd应该可以啊，不行就去cpan上再找找吧。
>
>  On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  HI, Achilles.
> 有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
> 我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
> 我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
>
>
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:52:20 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:52:20 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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	<447164E2.4070206@gmail.com>
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	<74646cb40605220025q8c09476hada28724ace04e9b@mail.gmail.com>
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是啊。现在就有这样的一个方案。
如果自动真的不行，就只能做一个半自动的了。

刚看了一下gd/
没有看到可以取某一点的颜色的方法，可能看得不仔细吧。
现在在看Image::Magic的。

再找找。
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From fkiori at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:54:21 2006
From: fkiori at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?1f3OsLPC?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:54:21 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
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cpan有一个模块可以从图片里面读数据
可以做出来，但是效果不好

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>    1. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 (Achilles Achilles)
>    2. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 ( 黄叶 )
>    3. Re:  wiki (Gao Aaron)
>    4. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 ( 黄叶 )
>    5. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 (Gao Aaron)
>    6. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 (Achilles Achilles)
>    7. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 ( 黄叶 )
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:28:01 +0800
> From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
> To: china-pm at pm.org
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> 一袋烟盖楼都够了。
>
> On 5/22/06, Hua Zhen <huaz at nanjing-fnst.com> wrote:
> >
> > 感觉牵扯到模式识别了，做肯定能做，总不会比指纹识别更复杂吧，但是可能多花
> > 一袋烟的功夫未必能搞定的吧？
> >
> > fayland 写道:
> > > Achilles Achilles wrote:
> > >
> > >> 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比
> > >> 较费劲。
> > >>
> > >
> > > 一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不是由几个字
> > > 母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
> > > 我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且图片可能由
> > > GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>     黄叶 wrote:
> > >>     > HI, 各位，
> > >>     > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上，
> > >>     然后
> > >>     > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> > >>     > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> > >>     > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> > >>     >
> > >>     > 谢谢。
> > >>
> > >>     这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那
> > >>     验证码
> > >>     就没有用了。
> > >>     曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
> > >>
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> > >>     >
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> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
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> From: "Gao Aaron" <gaochundong at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
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> Perl6开发到什么程度了?
> 好象好多年了呢
> 希望早些成型
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> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 挺高深的话题
> 搬个板凳坐着看...
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> From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 找出特征位和特征坐标，比如说6，右上是空的，而9右上有笔画，左下是空的。
>
>
> On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > :)
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> > 请指点一下。
> >
> >
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> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> HI, Achilles.
> 有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
> 我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
> 我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:55:54 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:55:54 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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*GD 有这个getPixel
哈。
看来可以看一下了。

try it.

*
在06-5-22，黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 是啊。现在就有这样的一个方案。
> 如果自动真的不行，就只能做一个半自动的了。
>
> 刚看了一下gd/
> 没有看到可以取某一点的颜色的方法，可能看得不仔细吧。
> 现在在看Image::Magic的。
>
> 再找找。
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:56:47 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:56:47 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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谢谢。
我来试一把。
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From huaz at nanjing-fnst.com  Mon May 22 00:57:59 2006
From: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com (Hua Zhen)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:57:59 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
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那请问如何过滤杂色点呢？ 统计某个区域里的特征色点的数量？

Achilles Achilles 写道:
> 找出特征位和特征坐标，比如说6，右上是空的，而9右上有笔画，左下是空的。
>
> On 5/22/06, *黄叶* <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     :)
>
>     请指点一下。
>
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:02:33 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:02:33 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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用相同的字体在相同的位置用白色改一下，就只剩杂点了。如果杂点的数量小于一定的数值，就说明这个字匹配。

On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 谢谢。
> 我来试一把。
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From fkiori at gmail.com  Mon May 22 00:54:21 2006
From: fkiori at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?1f3OsLPC?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:54:21 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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cpan有一个模块可以从图片里面读数据
可以做出来，但是效果不好

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>    3. Re:  wiki (Gao Aaron)
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:28:01 +0800
> From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 一袋烟盖楼都够了。
>
> On 5/22/06, Hua Zhen <huaz at nanjing-fnst.com> wrote:
> >
> > 感觉牵扯到模式识别了，做肯定能做，总不会比指纹识别更复杂吧，但是可能多花
> > 一袋烟的功夫未必能搞定的吧？
> >
> > fayland 写道:
> > > Achilles Achilles wrote:
> > >
> > >> 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差别，不过比
> > >> 较费劲。
> > >>
> > >
> > > 一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不是由几个字
> > > 母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
> > > 我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且图片可能由
> > > GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>     黄叶 wrote:
> > >>     > HI, 各位，
> > >>     > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上，
> > >>     然后
> > >>     > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> > >>     > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> > >>     > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> > >>     >
> > >>     > 谢谢。
> > >>
> > >>     这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那
> > >>     验证码
> > >>     就没有用了。
> > >>     曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
> > >>
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> :)
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> From: "Gao Aaron" <gaochundong at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
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> Perl6开发到什么程度了?
> 好象好多年了呢
> 希望早些成型
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> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
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> 163的注册码看不清。
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> 挺高深的话题
> 搬个板凳坐着看...
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> From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com>
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> 找出特征位和特征坐标，比如说6，右上是空的，而9右上有笔画，左下是空的。
>
>
> On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > :)
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> > 请指点一下。
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> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
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> HI, Achilles.
> 有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
> 我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
> 我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:05:03 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:05:03 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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杂色的问题是有一些麻烦。
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From huaz at nanjing-fnst.com  Mon May 22 01:06:31 2006
From: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com (Hua Zhen)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:06:31 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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用白色的数字“8”去覆盖？可是假设杂点是均匀分布的话，用8去覆盖，也有可能覆
盖掉杂点，造成剩下的杂点在各区域还是均匀分布的阿？

还望前辈能再解释一下，小弟驽钝，见笑了。

Achilles Achilles 写道:
> 用相同的字体在相同的位置用白色改一下，就只剩杂点了。如果杂点的数量小于
> 一定的数值，就说明这个字匹配。
>
> On 5/22/06, *黄叶* <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     谢谢。
>     我来试一把。
>
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:24:33 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:24:33 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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如果原来是7，你用8去盖，剩下的点就很多，如果用7去盖，剩下的点就少。
也可以逐个尝试，找出剩下点最少的就是匹配的。当然，如果杂点的面积跟字的面积接近，这招就不好使了。
另外如果字的位置随机的话也比较麻烦。


On 5/22/06, Hua Zhen <huaz at nanjing-fnst.com> wrote:
>
> 用白色的数字"8"去覆盖？可是假设杂点是均匀分布的话，用8去覆盖，也有可能覆
> 盖掉杂点，造成剩下的杂点在各区域还是均匀分布的阿？
>
> 还望前辈能再解释一下，小弟驽钝，见笑了。
>
> Achilles Achilles 写道:
> > 用相同的字体在相同的位置用白色改一下，就只剩杂点了。如果杂点的数量小于
> > 一定的数值，就说明这个字匹配。
> >
> > On 5/22/06, *黄叶* <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     谢谢。
> >     我来试一把。
> >
> >
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:42:50 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:42:50 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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记坐标的时候还得手工来，用眼睛看。
哪一组坐标对应哪一个字符。
用hash 和数组联合搞定它。


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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:48:03 2006
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:48:03 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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不过achiiles兄的办法好像更可行一些。


在06-5-22，黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 记坐标的时候还得手工来，用眼睛看。
> 哪一组坐标对应哪一个字符。
> 用hash 和数组联合搞定它。
>
>
> >
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From glumtail at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:51:09 2006
From: glumtail at gmail.com (glumtail)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:51:09 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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验证码通常都是单词，而且是有限的单词。比如ifaxian.com。
可以收集一下，然后穷举――很多网站都没有限制登录次数。

正伟陈 wrote:
> cpan有一个模块可以从图片里面读数据
> 可以做出来，但是效果不好
>
> 2006/5/22, china-pm-request at pm.org <mailto:china-pm-request at pm.org>
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>     1. Re: 验证码的破解的问题 (Achilles Achilles)
>     2. Re: 验证码的破解的问题 ( 黄叶 )
>     3. Re: wiki (Gao Aaron)
>     4. Re: 验证码的破解的问题 ( 黄叶 )
>     5. Re: 验证码的破解的问题 (Gao Aaron)
>     6. Re: 验证码的破解的问题 (Achilles Achilles)
>     7. Re: 验证码的破解的问题 ( 黄叶 )
>
>
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:28:01 +0800
>     From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:formalin14 at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>     <4a6c0ba80605220028n5b68d0c5q80626dd3f17f983 at mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:4a6c0ba80605220028n5b68d0c5q80626dd3f17f983 at mail.gmail.com>>
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>
>     一袋烟盖楼都够了。
>
>     On 5/22/06, Hua Zhen <huaz at nanjing-fnst.com
>     <mailto:huaz at nanjing-fnst.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > 感觉牵扯到模式识别了，做肯定能做，总不会比指纹识别更复杂吧，但是
>     可能多花
>     > 一袋烟的功夫未必能搞定的吧？
>     >
>     > fayland 写道:
>     > > Achilles Achilles wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> 也不是不能做，就是得再多花一袋烟的功夫。可以分析每个字母的差
>     别，不过比
>     > >> 较费劲。
>     > >>
>     > >
>     > > 一般验证码图片都是一个图片（临时生成的包括几个字母的图片），不
>     是由几个字
>     > > 母组成的几个图片。所以来说分辨图片很复杂。
>     > > 我对图片不是很了解。不知道现在的技术能不能读出图片的内容？而且
>     图片可能由
>     > > GD 可能由 Magick 生成，都不太一样。
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >> On 5/22/06, *fayland* <fayland at gmail.com
>     <mailto:fayland at gmail.com> <mailto: fayland at gmail.com
>     <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>>
>     > >> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> 黄叶 wrote:
>     > >> > HI, 各位，
>     > >> > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网
>     站上，
>     > >> 然后
>     > >> > 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>     > >> > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>     > >> > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>     > >> >
>     > >> > 谢谢。
>     > >>
>     > >> 这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行
>     的话那
>     > >> 验证码
>     > >> 就没有用了。
>     > >> 曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
>     > >>
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >> >
>     > >>
>     >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>     > >>
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>     Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:30:33 +0800
>     From: " 黄叶 " < hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>     < 74646cb40605220030x8c9e1aar81265dce63c7c52 at mail.gmail.com
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>     Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:33:25 +0800
>     From: "Gao Aaron" <gaochundong at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gaochundong at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>     <151e51480605220033x2464312l28ef2f255393e0af at mail.gmail.com
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>     Perl6开发到什么程度了?
>     好象好多年了呢
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>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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>     Message-ID:
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>     163的注册码看不清。
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>     Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:36:59 +0800
>     From: "Gao Aaron" <gaochundong at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gaochundong at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>     <151e51480605220036hbe93254r8df509c62b858f9d at mail.gmail.com
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>     挺高深的话题
>     搬个板凳坐着看...
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>     Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:36:53 +0800
>     From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:formalin14 at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>     <4a6c0ba80605220036m15ca4713j36d7f434fd4bd7f9 at mail.gmail.com
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>     找出特征位和特征坐标，比如说6，右上是空的，而9右上有笔画，左下是空的。
>
>
>     On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > :)
>     >
>     > 请指点一下。
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>     Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:41:24 +0800
>     From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
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>     HI, Achilles.
>     有一张图片他的背景色就是＃000000, 而验证码的颜色就是：#ffff00, 所
>     以如果有办法能够读出颜色值。和区域，
>     我想就应该可以根据你说的，把验证码弄出来。
>     我现在关键的问题是不知道，哪个模块能够在打开图片文件后取到图片指定
>     的颜色。 刚找了一下GD, 好像不行。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:52:36 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:52:36 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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是啊。我的笨办法就是类似于穷举。但是就是刚开始的时候。就是记下每一个颜色块。

再就是分析图片和比对了。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 01:53:42 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:53:42 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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另外楼上的朋友在回复的时候最好把引用的邮件删掉。
这样比较好看一些。要不然拖得很长。
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From fayland at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:02:13 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:02:13 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>

黄叶 wrote:
> 另外楼上的朋友在回复的时候最好把引用的邮件删掉。
> 这样比较好看一些。要不然拖得很长。
>
今天是我收到 china-mail 最多的一天了。hehe :-)

-- 
Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/ 


From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:05:51 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:05:51 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
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其实也蛮多人的，就是没有朋友愿意提出问题。

像我这种菜鸟就说不得了，就提出来问了。

呵呵。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:07:10 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:07:10 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80605220207r68061c87k68c345fe157e5473@mail.gmail.com>

找特征码嘛，跟穷举还是不一样的。不知道寻找病毒特征码的知识在这是不是能用上。


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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:07:25 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:07:25 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
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验证码破解的问题，还真有人用类似于我的办法做过。

http://blog.iyi.cn/start/2006/04/php_5.html
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:08:42 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:08:42 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>

你是菜鸟???
那我不就是菜菜鸟了??
呵呵
既然这样
抓紧写程序发现搞不定的问题
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:16:47 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:16:47 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
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没有问题，制造问题也要问不是

On 5/22/06, Gao Aaron <gaochundong at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  你是菜鸟???
> 那我不就是菜菜鸟了??
> 呵呵
> 既然这样
> 抓紧写程序发现搞不定的问题
>
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:07:25 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:07:25 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74646cb40605220207w77260b98m91d3b9d7e18b7509@mail.gmail.com>

验证码破解的问题，还真有人用类似于我的办法做过。

http://blog.iyi.cn/start/2006/04/php_5.html
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:19:40 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:19:40 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605220216p3be3cb1cxbb3183174a6c437d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
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呵呵。

对了，不知道有没有多少朋友关注perl gtk2的。
哈哈。

为了热闹一点，我新来一个主题好了。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:24:15 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:24:15 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?R3RrMqOsIEd0azI6OkdsYWRlWE1MINbG1/dndWk=?=
	=?gb2312?b?oaM=?=
Message-ID: <74646cb40605220224q76851e3fxe23edf7234eaa523@mail.gmail.com>

这几天闲逛。无意中看到一个朋友写的文档，用来做GUI的。
放在附件里。感觉很不错。位置嘛就在这里：
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/gtk2-perl/GladeXML/en/GladeXML_tutoriel_en.html


就是使用Glade 做好界面，然后使用Gtk2::Glade 配合Gtk2来使用，这样做的话，感觉客户端的MVC可以很好做起来。

有一个application: podbrowser:

http://jodrell.net/projects/podbrowser



有研究GUI的朋友可以参考一下。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:24:56 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:24:56 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?R3RrMqOsIEd0azI6OkdsYWRlWE1MINbG1/dndWk=?=
	=?gb2312?b?oaM=?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220224q76851e3fxe23edf7234eaa523@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605220224q76851e3fxe23edf7234eaa523@mail.gmail.com>
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忘了，没有附件，我就贴了URL Link
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:38:12 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:38:12 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220219g70c0b851td69a28bcb2f80a6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<b5baf7930605220054r23eea4eg6523b39d3cf13e30@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220216p3be3cb1cxbb3183174a6c437d@mail.gmail.com>
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不是太关心，毕竟用perl写gui比较累。

On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 呵呵。
>
> 对了，不知道有没有多少朋友关注perl gtk2的。
> 哈哈。
>
> 为了热闹一点，我新来一个主题好了。
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
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> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>



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From tinyu0 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:38:28 2006
From: tinyu0 at gmail.com (chen ken)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:38:28 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?R3RrMqOsIEd0azI6OkdsYWRlWE1MINbG1/dndWk=?=
	=?gb2312?b?oaM=?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220224q4e0d4183n3c4bf2a6e3e0175e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605220224q76851e3fxe23edf7234eaa523@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220224q4e0d4183n3c4bf2a6e3e0175e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29a998c0605220238l5ec1452bsf4015025a0b73f4a@mail.gmail.com>

关于gtk2，大家可以去关注一下这个项目，由alexe<http://bbs.chinaunix.net/viewpro.php?uid=268764>
大虾主持的
http://bbs.chinaunix.net/viewthread.php?tid=671101&extra=page%3D1

我从svn上down源代码，不过还没时间看呢

在06-5-22，黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 忘了，没有附件，我就贴了URL Link
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:55:03 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:55:03 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605220238n3b0733c8t618fed45a7361ee1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<44717B7D.2060405@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220216p3be3cb1cxbb3183174a6c437d@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220219g70c0b851td69a28bcb2f80a6e@mail.gmail.com>
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不一定啊。
我觉得perl 配合Gtk2::GladeXML写GUI貌似不错啊。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:56:16 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:56:16 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina]
	=?gb2312?b?R3RrMqOsIEd0azI6OkdsYWRlWE1MINbG1/dndWk=?=
	=?gb2312?b?oaM=?=
In-Reply-To: <29a998c0605220238l5ec1452bsf4015025a0b73f4a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605220224q76851e3fxe23edf7234eaa523@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220224q4e0d4183n3c4bf2a6e3e0175e@mail.gmail.com>
	<29a998c0605220238l5ec1452bsf4015025a0b73f4a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74646cb40605220256x318f403ar9844aeb3574b4dfd@mail.gmail.com>

下载过代码。
运行了一把。
呵呵。
不过是很久以前的事了。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 02:57:34 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:57:34 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605220255n11abbad9u872f5ffd9cd579c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<74646cb40605220152r54257caehf906666017b3b0cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220216p3be3cb1cxbb3183174a6c437d@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220219g70c0b851td69a28bcb2f80a6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220238n3b0733c8t618fed45a7361ee1@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220255n11abbad9u872f5ffd9cd579c7@mail.gmail.com>
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那是没用过vs

On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 不一定啊。
> 我觉得perl 配合Gtk2::GladeXML写GUI貌似不错啊。
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 06:23:55 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:23:55 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605220257u308b781cv5c1fb03cd16071cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.475.1148283741.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
	<74646cb40605220153wff666anfb6fd6bb5017e497@mail.gmail.com>
	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<151e51480605220208t77758371r9f6749b36094d881@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220216p3be3cb1cxbb3183174a6c437d@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220219g70c0b851td69a28bcb2f80a6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220238n3b0733c8t618fed45a7361ee1@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220255n11abbad9u872f5ffd9cd579c7@mail.gmail.com>
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弱弱的问： 啥是VS？
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From shijialee at gmail.com  Mon May 22 07:56:55 2006
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:56:55 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?0enWpMLrtcTGxr3itcTOyszi?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605212306g16a08e27yc28123cc64e03a3a@mail.gmail.com>
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黄叶 wrote:
> HI, 各位，
> 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从 
> 里面取下我们需要的报表。
> 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> 

这么热闹啊，我休假刚回来。:)
图片验证码英文是 captcha, wikipedia 上有篇不错的介绍文章http:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA

关注一下 Circumvention 那部分，里面介绍了几种破解的方法。

我记得以前在 slashdot 上读到黄色网站如何让访问者通过输入其他网站的图片验
证码来看到免费的电影等，有了验证码机器人就可以工作了。算是一个很有意思的
人工破解图片验证码的方法。

Qiang


From formalin14 at gmail.com  Mon May 22 18:21:18 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:21:18 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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	<44717E15.7050007@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
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visual studio

On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 弱弱的问： 啥是VS？
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 18:46:17 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:46:17 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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	<74646cb40605220205p75f1950du9071fdc95ff1bd1f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4a6c0ba80605220216p3be3cb1cxbb3183174a6c437d@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220219g70c0b851td69a28bcb2f80a6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605220238n3b0733c8t618fed45a7361ee1@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605220255n11abbad9u872f5ffd9cd579c7@mail.gmail.com>
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哦。
是它啊。
只用过VB。
还有Delphi
但是Linux下没有这些啊。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 20:38:09 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:38:09 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?vfHM7NPQutzA5MflsKGhow==?=
Message-ID: <74646cb40605222038p4e84b966j4989c18150831ea5@mail.gmail.com>

今天又很冷清啊。
哪位搞出个题目来聊聊啊。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 22:01:50 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:01:50 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?vfHM7NPQutzA5MflsKGhow==?=
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看来大家都比较忙，不愿意来灌水啊。
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Mon May 22 22:03:18 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:03:18 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?vfHM7NPQutzA5MflsKGhow==?=
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我来灌水

冷清就把空调关了就不冷了


...冷笑话
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Mon May 22 22:41:16 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:41:16 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?vfHM7NPQutzA5MflsKGhow==?=
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晕哦。
我们这栋大楼空调不好。
现在热死了。
呵呵。

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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Mon May 22 22:42:04 2006
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:42:04 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?5LuK5aSp5pyJ5b6I5Ya35riF5ZWK44CC?=
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点都不好笑……


在 星期二 23 五月 2006 13:03，Gao Aaron 写道：
> 我来灌水
>
> 冷清就把空调关了就不冷了
>
>
> ...冷笑话

From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Mon May 22 22:43:43 2006
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:43:43 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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	<4a6c0ba80605221821t1ff85732wa481779a10532d7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200605231343.44269.zhuzhu@perlchina.org>

VS 洗发水


在 星期二 23 五月 2006 09:21，Achilles Achilles 写道：
> visual studio
>
> On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 弱弱的问： 啥是VS？
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm

From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Mon May 22 22:45:13 2006
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:45:13 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?5LuK5aSp5pyJ5b6I5Ya35riF5ZWK44CC?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605222038p4e84b966j4989c18150831ea5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <74646cb40605222038p4e84b966j4989c18150831ea5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200605231345.14218.zhuzhu@perlchina.org>

谁帮我在成都介绍个工作……

这个题目如何？


在 星期二 23 五月 2006 11:38，黄叶 写道：
> 今天又很冷清啊。
> 哪位搞出个题目来聊聊啊。

From fayland at gmail.com  Mon May 22 22:51:59 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 05:51:59 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
Message-ID: <4472A2FF.4020801@gmail.com>

#!/usr/bin/perl

my $error = &validate();

if ($error) {
    print 'error';
} else {
    print 'ok';
}

sub validate {
    my $error = { };
    return $error;
}

会输出 error. 怎么写比较好？

-- 
Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/ 


From cnhacktnt at gmail.com  Mon May 22 23:48:21 2006
From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhacktnt)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:48:21 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
References: <4472A2FF.4020801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200605231448080003941@gmail.com>

hi,fayland~
    改成:
#!/usr/bin/perl

my $error = &validate();

if (%$error) {
    print 'error';
} else {
    print 'ok';
}

sub validate {
    my $error= { };
    return $error;
}
如何?
呵呵,昨天列表里比较热闹啊呵呵,可惜昨天我忙了一通宵PB课程设计,到今早4,5点才睡觉.
验证码那个我很早以前也去 perl 的新闻组问过,没人给出解决方法呵呵,不过后来知道了有些简单的验证码,通过分析其源码,是有规律可寻的,不过加上变形,干扰色之后就复杂了...应该没有一个统一的解决方法吧?



cnhacktnt
2006-05-23



发件人： fayland
发送时间： 2006-05-23 13:52:33
收件人： China-pm at pm.org
抄送： 
主题： [PerlChina] hashref return stuff

#!/usr/bin/perl

my  $error  =  &validate();

if  ($error)  {
       print  'error';
}  else  {
       print  'ok';
}

sub  validate  {
       my  $error  =  {  };
       return  $error;
}

会输出  error.  怎么写比较好？

--  
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 00:31:42 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:31:42 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?vfHM7NPQutzA5MflsKGhow==?=
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你在哪儿啊？
找个工作应该不是很难吧。

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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 00:37:00 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:37:00 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
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这个题目好像不太明确哦。
是打印hash 的指呢？还是仅仅打印一个'error'的字符串啊？

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From glumtail at gmail.com  Tue May 23 03:04:39 2006
From: glumtail at gmail.com (glumtail)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 18:04:39 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7
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Visual Studio *VS* 洗发水 :-)

On 5/23/06, Zhu Zhu <zhuzhu at perlchina.org> wrote:
> VS 洗发水
>
>
> 在 星期二 23 五月 2006 09:21，Achilles Achilles 写道：
> > visual studio
> >
> > On 5/22/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 弱弱的问： 啥是VS？
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm mailing list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> _______________________________________________
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> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm


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From perlonunix at aim.com  Tue May 23 03:50:43 2006
From: perlonunix at aim.com (perlonunix at aim.com)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 06:50:43 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605230037n4ecdb0a3o5b395ec7989d19fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4472A2FF.4020801@gmail.com> <200605231448080003941@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230037n4ecdb0a3o5b395ec7989d19fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C84C6DE00EC8FA-11C0-7181@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com>



讨论的挺热闹呀。



--Jen.G

-----Original Message-----
From: 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com>
To: cnhacktnt at gmail.com; china-pm at pm.org
Sent: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:37:00 +0800
Subject: Re: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff

这个题目好像不太明确哦。
是打印hash 的指呢？还是仅仅打印一个'error'的字符串啊？

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From perlonunix at aim.com  Tue May 23 05:29:42 2006
From: perlonunix at aim.com (perlonunix at aim.com)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:29:42 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?W+iuqOiuul0g5aSn5a626YO955SoUGVybOW5sg==?=
 =?utf-8?b?5LuA5LmI77yfIA==?=
Message-ID: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>


偶们部分用于web开发，部分用于后台维护程序，例如统计数据分析等。你们哪？




--Jen Garner
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From glumtail at gmail.com  Tue May 23 05:31:39 2006
From: glumtail at gmail.com (glumtail)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 20:31:39 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
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Message-ID: <e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>

偶尔转换一下文本――好像没多少用处。

On 5/23/06, perlonunix at aim.com <perlonunix at aim.com> wrote:
>
> 偶们部分用于web开发，部分用于后台维护程序，例如统计数据分析等。你们哪？
>
>
>
>
> --Jen Garner
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and
> industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 06:55:56 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:55:56 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
In-Reply-To: <8C84C6DE00EC8FA-11C0-7181@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4472A2FF.4020801@gmail.com> <200605231448080003941@gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230037n4ecdb0a3o5b395ec7989d19fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<8C84C6DE00EC8FA-11C0-7181@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com>
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怎解？
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 06:58:06 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:58:06 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>
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主要是用于分析日志。
做自动化的脚本。

现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
发现php玩得没多大意思。

上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
不过都有点傻傻的。
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From dglhbnb1 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 08:12:55 2006
From: dglhbnb1 at gmail.com (Tianpu)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:12:55 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 5
References: <mailman.468.1148282118.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <002201c67e85$d91dd940$52e414de@kook>

这个要看干扰码写的水平了
然后比较相似度
感觉很没意思
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>   1. Re:  wiki ( 黄叶 )
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>   4. Re:  验证码的破解的问题 (Achilles Achilles)
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:13:24 +0800
> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] wiki
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> Perl5里的原型的用法。
> 就是表示你在调用这个函数的时候，必须的使用和你原型里说明的数据类型。
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> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
> Subject: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> HI, 各位，
> 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
> 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
> 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> 
> 谢谢。
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:33:50 +0800
> From: "tiantao" <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 图片验证码就是为了防止程序登陆的吧，如果没有验证码，应该如何通过perl登陆到网站呢
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: 黄叶 
>  To: china-pm at pm.org 
>  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:06 PM
>  Subject: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
> 
> 
>  HI, 各位，
>  我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>  但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>  请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
> 
>  谢谢。
> 
> 
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:54:56 +0800
> From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 看起来不像partner，倒像小偷。
> 
> On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
>>
>>  图片验证码就是为了防止程序登陆的吧，如果没有验证码，应该如何通过perl登陆到网站呢
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com>
>> *To:* china-pm at pm.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2006 2:06 PM
>> *Subject:* [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>>
>>
>> HI, 各位，
>> 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>> 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>> 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>>
>> 谢谢。
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> From: "Yonghua (Jeff)" <yonghua.peng at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 怀疑用于注册机程序，:-)
> 很多人破解了163的注册识别图片，我们为此头疼。
> 可以去网上搜索下有没有现成的代码。
> 
> 
> 在06-5-22，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>> 看起来不像partner，倒像小偷。
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/06, tiantao <tian00 at mails.tsinghua.edu.cn> wrote:
>> >
>> >  图片验证码就是为了防止程序登陆的吧，如果没有验证码，应该如何通过perl登陆到网站呢
>> >
>> >  ----- Original Message -----
>> > *From:* 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com>
>> > *To:* china-pm at pm.org
>> > *Sent:* Monday, May 22, 2006 2:06 PM
>> > *Subject:* [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
>> >
>> >
>> > HI, 各位，
>> > 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>> > 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>> > 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>> >
>> > 谢谢。
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:14:42 +0000
> From: fayland <fayland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 验证码的破解的问题
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> 黄叶 wrote:
>> HI, 各位，
>> 我最近在做一个项目，需要能够自动登录到我们一个partnert的网站上， 然后
>> 从里面取下我们需要的报表。
>> 但是它的网站登录需要使用图片的验证码的，图片的格式是gif的。
>> 请问一下有没有什么办法可以破解验证码的？
>>
>> 谢谢。
> 
> 这个我没见过有可能的。本来验证码就是针对自动登录的。如果可行的话那验证码
> 就没有用了。
> 曲折一点的途径是把验证码图片抓过来，然后看一下填进去再提交。
> 
>>
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From shijialee at gmail.com  Tue May 23 14:56:16 2006
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li)
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:56:16 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
In-Reply-To: <200605231448080003941@gmail.com>
References: <4472A2FF.4020801@gmail.com> <200605231448080003941@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0605231456y6ad5fcb0n4b5141b3cf3620ab@mail.gmail.com>

虽然 $error 是 hash reference, 但  if（$error) {}  用起来还是没错的。
按 fayland 的思路 (我猜测)

sub validate {
   # 检查
   if ( 找到错误 )
      # 设定 $error{}
  } else {
     return 0;  # 这样写清楚些，一眼看到没错误就返回 0
  }
}

On 5/23/06, cnhacktnt <cnhacktnt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> hi,fayland~
>     改成:
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
>
> my $error = &validate();
>
> if (%$error) {
>     print 'error';
> } else {
>     print 'ok';
> }
>
>
> sub validate {
>     my $error= { };
>     return $error;
> }
> 如何?
> 呵呵,昨天列表里比较热闹啊呵呵,可惜昨天我忙了一通宵PB课程设计,到今早4,5点才睡觉.
> 验证码那个我很早以前也去 perl
> 的新闻组问过,没人给出解决方法呵呵,不过后来知道了有些简单的验证码,通过分析其源码,是有规律可寻的,不过加上变形,干扰色之后就复杂了...应该没有一个统一的解决方法吧?
>
>  ________________________________
>
> cnhacktnt
> 2006-05-23
>  ________________________________
>
> 发件人： fayland
> 发送时间： 2006-05-23 13:52:33
> 收件人： China-pm at pm.org
> 抄送：
> 主题： [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
>
>
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> my  $error  =  &validate();
>
> if  ($error)  {
>        print  'error';
> }  else  {
>        print  'ok';
> }
>
> sub  validate  {
>        my  $error  =  {  };
>        return  $error;
> }
>
> 会输出  error.  怎么写比较好？
>
> --
> Fayland  Lam  //  http://www.fayland.org/

From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 18:24:30 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:24:30 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] hashref return stuff
In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0605231456y6ad5fcb0n4b5141b3cf3620ab@mail.gmail.com>
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我原以为是fayland想打印出错误信息。
原是我看错了。
但是对于错误处理，我觉得，如果仅仅是这样，到了出错的时候，可能还是一愁莫展。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 18:44:11 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:44:11 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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跟php拼，我看没什么戏。
还是做些自动化小工具吧。


On 5/23/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 主要是用于分析日志。
> 做自动化的脚本。
>
> 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> 发现php玩得没多大意思。
>
> 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> 不过都有点傻傻的。
>
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 19:42:41 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:42:41 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?u8bStsrHbGludXhzaXK1xLDm1vfC8KO/?=
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From anderslee2003 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 21:20:26 2006
From: anderslee2003 at gmail.com (Anders Lee)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:20:26 +0900
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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有同感。
我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
主要做一些自动化工具。
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From joejiang799 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 21:28:09 2006
From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:28:09 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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那么大家在工作之余都用 perl 来玩或学什么呢？

我最近在用 vim-perl 来练习用 perl 扩展来在 vim 里面发 blog 到 livejournal.com。很有趣，大家可以参考我的
blog entry http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html

在06-5-24，Anders Lee <anderslee2003 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 有同感。
> 我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
> 主要做一些自动化工具。
>
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 21:38:30 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:38:30 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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我到觉得技术上php 和Perl完全是两个档次的。
无论开发什么。
可能的就是Perl入门难一点。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 21:52:03 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:52:03 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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黄叶是linuxsir上的黄叶吗？

On 5/24/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 我到觉得技术上php 和Perl完全是两个档次的。
> 无论开发什么。
> 可能的就是Perl入门难一点。
>
>
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 21:58:14 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:58:14 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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恩。
是。
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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 22:01:09 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:01:09 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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哦，高手啊，以后还要向你多多请教。
先问一个：posix c里atoi遇到不能转的字符串，怎么返回错误？


On 5/24/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 恩。
> 是。
>
>
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 22:05:53 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:05:53 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605232201v4d70c5fh49670cfed45be6b9@mail.gmail.com>
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*^-^*.
sorry. 我真的不知道。

没有在Linux下用过C
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From shijialee at gmail.com  Tue May 23 22:37:38 2006
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:37:38 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <e6d662d0605232128k2e3f5acdxcf716d24710b6849@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>

Joe Jiang wrote:
> 那么大家在工作之余都用 perl 来玩或学什么呢？

最近在看 CGI::Application ( Perl 里的一个网络编程框架 )，试着用它写 web
application. 目前感觉使用起来很简单，CPAN 上的模块也很容易的整合起来。

除了 CGI::Application， 也在玩 Google Map 的接口, 主要是 Javascript 的东
西。虽然不是 Perl , 但结果还是比较有意思的。

oh, http://to.easyya.com  我用 CGI::Application 写的一个网站，里面也有
google map 的使用。

噢，我是做 Unix 系统管理的，Perl 基本上都是用来写自动化工具，或文字处理。

> 
> 我最近在用 vim-perl 来练习用 perl 扩展来在 vim 里面发 blog 到 
> livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>。很有趣，大家可以参考我的 blog 
> entry http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html 
> <http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html>
> 

别具一格。have fun :)

Qiang

> 在06-5-24，*Anders Lee* <anderslee2003 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com>> 写道：
> 
>     有同感。
>     我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
>     主要做一些自动化工具。
> 
> 
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From win8013p at gmail.com  Tue May 23 22:54:47 2006
From: win8013p at gmail.com (toby)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:54:47 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>
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以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;

my($r_mail) = 'win8013 at 163.com';
my($s_mail) = 'win8013 at chinanetcenter.com';
my($subject) = 'subject';

open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail -t');
select(MAIL);

print<<"END_TAG";
To: $r_mail
From: $s_mail
Subject: $subject

ILOVECHINA

END_TAG

From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 22:58:40 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:58:40 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <707b9fab0605232254r6947d1c7receb1d16fc718f16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
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是不是最后一行要加个点表示结束啊？

On 5/24/06, toby <win8013p at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> use strict;
>
> my($r_mail) = 'win8013 at 163.com';
> my($s_mail) = 'win8013 at chinanetcenter.com';
> my($subject) = 'subject';
>
> open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail -t');
> select(MAIL);
>
> print<<"END_TAG";
> To: $r_mail
> From: $s_mail
> Subject: $subject
>
> ILOVECHINA
>
> END_TAG
> _______________________________________________
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From win8013p at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:13:36 2006
From: win8013p at gmail.com (win8013p at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:13:36 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?q?=28no_subject=29?=
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:13:49 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:13:49 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605232311j29eef5dnc632dae36ff15b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
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	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4001da2f0605232120o3f0506c9w9f001134acb9a1b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6d662d0605232128k2e3f5acdxcf716d24710b6849@mail.gmail.com>
	<4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>
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	<74646cb40605232311j29eef5dnc632dae36ff15b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74646cb40605232313y77934296wa9d296268f559847@mail.gmail.com>

刚好我们公司最近在向amazon讨点活做。
呵呵。
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From fayland at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:14:49 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:14:49 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?W+iuqOiuul0g5aSn5a626YO955SoUGVybOW5sg==?=
 =?utf-8?b?5LuA5LmI77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>	<e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>	<4a6c0ba80605231844l5e7c13abua3feb9ca8e538a88@mail.gmail.com>	<4001da2f0605232120o3f0506c9w9f001134acb9a1b2@mail.gmail.com>	<e6d662d0605232128k2e3f5acdxcf716d24710b6849@mail.gmail.com>
	<4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4473F9D9.9090905@gmail.com>

Qiang ( James ) Li wrote:
> Joe Jiang wrote:
>   
>> 那么大家在工作之余都用 perl 来玩或学什么呢？
>>     
>
> 最近在看 CGI::Application ( Perl 里的一个网络编程框架 )，试着用它写 web
> application. 目前感觉使用起来很简单，CPAN 上的模块也很容易的整合起来。
>
> 除了 CGI::Application， 也在玩 Google Map 的接口, 主要是 Javascript 的东
> 西。虽然不是 Perl , 但结果还是比较有意思的。
>
> oh, http://to.easyya.com  我用 CGI::Application 写的一个网站，里面也有
> google map 的使用。
>
> 噢，我是做 Unix 系统管理的，Perl 基本上都是用来写自动化工具，或文字处理。
>
>   
>> 我最近在用 vim-perl 来练习用 perl 扩展来在 vim 里面发 blog 到 
>> livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>。很有趣，大家可以参考我的 blog 
>> entry http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html 
>> <http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html>
>>
>>     
>
> 别具一格。have fun :)
>
> Qiang
>
>   
>> 在06-5-24，*Anders Lee* <anderslee2003 at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com>> 写道：
>>
>>     有同感。
>>     我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
>>     主要做一些自动化工具。
>>
>>
>>   

我是工作要用到。用 Catalyst + DBIx::Class + TT 开发 web
其他的地方也用到。比如现在就要用 WWW::Mechanize 去抓取 mail 里的联系人资 
料。perl 还是挺好用的。

-- 
Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/ 


From win8013p at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:17:03 2006
From: win8013p at gmail.com (win8013p at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:17:03 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?Rnc6IFJlOiBSZTogW8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVy?=
	=?gb2312?b?bLjJyrLDtKO/?=
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
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	<4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>
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	<4a6c0ba80605232258t2cc51675if9288a1893448c52@mai
	<200605241413336098434@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200605241417014069179@gmail.com>




发件人：win8013p
发送日期：2006-05-24 14:13:33
收件人：china-pm at pm.org
抄送：
主题：Re: Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？

出错了
Can't find string terminator "END_TAG" anywhere before EOF at ./smail line 12.




win8013p at gmail.com
2006-05-24



发件人： Achilles Achilles
发送时间： 2006-05-24 13:59:36
收件人： china-pm at pm.org
抄送： 
主题： Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？

是不是最后一行要加个点表示结束啊？


On 5/24/06, toby <win8013p at gmail.com> wrote: 
以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢

#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;

my($r_mail) = ' win8013 at 163.com';
my($s_mail) = 'win8013 at chinanetcenter.com';
my($subject) = 'subject';

open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail -t');
select(MAIL);

print<<"END_TAG"; 
To: $r_mail
From: $s_mail
Subject: $subject

ILOVECHINA

END_TAG
_______________________________________________
China-pm mailing list
China-pm at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm



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http://www.lazycode.org 

From yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com  Tue May 23 23:22:26 2006
From: yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com (Yu Zhiguo)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:22:26 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com><e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0@skqianyi>

关于日志分析的工作都是用Perl来作的

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "黄叶" <hylinux at gmail.com>
To: <china-pm at pm.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？


> 主要是用于分析日志。
> 做自动化的脚本。
> 
> 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> 发现php玩得没多大意思。
> 
> 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> 不过都有点傻傻的。
>


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From formalin14 at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:29:51 2006
From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Achilles Achilles)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:29:51 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0@skqianyi>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>
	<028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0@skqianyi>
Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80605232329k2320407wda788d0fa29156d1@mail.gmail.com>

把引号去了。

On 5/24/06, Yu Zhiguo <yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com> wrote:
>
> 关于日志分析的工作都是用Perl来作的
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "黄叶" <hylinux at gmail.com>
> To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>
>
> > 主要是用于分析日志。
> > 做自动化的脚本。
> >
> > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
> >
> > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> > 不过都有点傻傻的。
> >
>
>
>
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>
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From yonghua.peng at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:34:00 2006
From: yonghua.peng at gmail.com (Yonghua (Jeff))
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:34:00 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80605231844l5e7c13abua3feb9ca8e538a88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <838104a80605232334n2a3486f7ndb77bc3dbb1b1e97@mail.gmail.com>

个人觉得php跟mod_perl没法比，后者基本上只使用了Apache的IO，它在后台可以实现非常复杂的功能（甚至是系统层次的），远不止一个动态页面那么简单。个人觉得Java比Perl/mod_perl略强，上午刚在perl-beginners列表里提出了这个问题，不过也被其他人提出异议，所谓存在即合理吧，就用自己最习惯的好了。

在06-5-24，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
>  跟php拼，我看没什么戏。
> 还是做些自动化小工具吧。
>
>
>  On 5/23/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  主要是用于分析日志。
> 做自动化的脚本。
>
> 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> 发现php玩得没多大意思。
>
> 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> 不过都有点傻傻的。
>
>
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 23 23:46:31 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:46:31 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4473f98d.4b04315c.5c4a.0742@mx.gmail.com>
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呵呵。
看不见信的内容啊。
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From fkiori at gmail.com  Wed May 24 00:24:01 2006
From: fkiori at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?1f3OsLPC?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 15:24:01 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.563.1148453224.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.563.1148453224.18728.china-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <b5baf7930605240024r804c69agc0684650a48c7fe5@mail.gmail.com>

谁有perl的兼职项目？让我做一点哦
最近手头紧
呵呵


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>    1. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ ( 黄叶 )
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>    3.  Fw: Re: Re: [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>       (win8013p at gmail.com)
>    4. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (Yu Zhiguo)
>    5. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (Achilles Achilles)
>    6. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (Yonghua (Jeff))
>    7. Re:  (no subject) ( 黄叶 )
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> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:13:49 +0800
> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
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>
> 刚好我们公司最近在向amazon讨点活做。
> 呵呵。
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:14:49 +0000
> From: fayland <fayland at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> To: shijialee at gmail.com,  china-pm at pm.org
> Message-ID: <4473F9D9.9090905 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Qiang ( James ) Li wrote:
> > Joe Jiang wrote:
> >
> >> 那么大家在工作之余都用 perl 来玩或学什么呢？
> >>
> >
> > 最近在看 CGI::Application ( Perl 里的一个网络编程框架 )，试着用它写 web
> > application. 目前感觉使用起来很简单，CPAN 上的模块也很容易的整合起来。
> >
> > 除了 CGI::Application， 也在玩 Google Map 的接口, 主要是 Javascript 的东
> > 西。虽然不是 Perl , 但结果还是比较有意思的。
> >
> > oh, http://to.easyya.com  我用 CGI::Application 写的一个网站，里面也有
> > google map 的使用。
> >
> > 噢，我是做 Unix 系统管理的，Perl 基本上都是用来写自动化工具，或文字处理。
> >
> >
> >> 我最近在用 vim-perl 来练习用 perl 扩展来在 vim 里面发 blog 到
> >> livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>。很有趣，大家可以参考我的 blog
> >> entry http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html
> >> <http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 别具一格。have fun :)
> >
> > Qiang
> >
> >
> >> 在06-5-24，*Anders Lee* <anderslee2003 at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com>> 写道：
> >>
> >>     有同感。
> >>     我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
> >>     主要做一些自动化工具。
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> 我是工作要用到。用 Catalyst + DBIx::Class + TT 开发 web
> 其他的地方也用到。比如现在就要用 WWW::Mechanize 去抓取 mail 里的联系人资
> 料。perl 还是挺好用的。
>
> --
> Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:17:03 +0800
> From: "win8013p at gmail.com" <win8013p at gmail.com>
> Subject: [PerlChina] Fw: Re: Re: [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> To: "china-pm at pm.org" <china-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID: <200605241417014069179 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="gb2312"
>
>
>
>
> 发件人：win8013p
> 发送日期：2006-05-24 14:13:33
> 收件人：china-pm at pm.org
> 抄送：
> 主题：Re: Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>
> 出错了
> Can't find string terminator "END_TAG" anywhere before EOF at ./smail line
> 12.
>
>
>
>
> win8013p at gmail.com
> 2006-05-24
>
>
>
> 发件人： Achilles Achilles
> 发送时间： 2006-05-24 13:59:36
> 收件人： china-pm at pm.org
> 抄送：
> 主题： Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>
> 是不是最后一行要加个点表示结束啊？
>
>
> On 5/24/06, toby <win8013p at gmail.com> wrote:
> 以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> use strict;
>
> my($r_mail) = ' win8013 at 163.com';
> my($s_mail) = 'win8013 at chinanetcenter.com';
> my($subject) = 'subject';
>
> open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail -t');
> select(MAIL);
>
> print<<"END_TAG";
> To: $r_mail
> From: $s_mail
> Subject: $subject
>
> ILOVECHINA
>
> END_TAG
> _______________________________________________
> China-pm mailing list
> China-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------
> Achilles Xu
> http://www.lazycode.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:22:26 +0800
> From: "Yu Zhiguo" <yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> Message-ID: <028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0 at skqianyi>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="gb2312"
>
> 关于日志分析的工作都是用Perl来作的
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "黄叶" <hylinux at gmail.com>
> To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>
>
> > 主要是用于分析日志。
> > 做自动化的脚本。
> >
> > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
> >
> > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> > 不过都有点傻傻的。
> >
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:29:51 +0800
> From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> To: china-pm at pm.org
> Message-ID:
>         <4a6c0ba80605232329k2320407wda788d0fa29156d1 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
>
> 把引号去了。
>
> On 5/24/06, Yu Zhiguo <yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com> wrote:
> >
> > 关于日志分析的工作都是用Perl来作的
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "黄叶" <hylinux at gmail.com>
> > To: <china-pm at pm.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> >
> >
> > > 主要是用于分析日志。
> > > 做自动化的脚本。
> > >
> > > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> > > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
> > >
> > > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> > > 不过都有点傻傻的。
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > China-pm mailing list
> > > China-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
>
> --
> ---------------------------
> Achilles Xu
> http://www.lazycode.org
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:34:00 +0800
> From: "Yonghua (Jeff)" <yonghua.peng at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> To: china-pm at pm.org
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>
> 个人觉得php跟mod_perl没法比，后者基本上只使用了Apache的IO，它在后台可以实现非常复杂的功能（甚至是系统层次的），远不止一个动态页面那么简单。个人觉得Java比Perl/mod_perl略强，上午刚在perl-beginners列表里提出了这个问题，不过也被其他人提出异议，所谓存在即合理吧，就用自己最习惯的好了。
>
> 在06-5-24，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道：
> >
> >  跟php拼，我看没什么戏。
> > 还是做些自动化小工具吧。
> >
> >
> >  On 5/23/06, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  主要是用于分析日志。
> > 做自动化的脚本。
> >
> > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
> > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
> >
> > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key replicate的工具。
> > 不过都有点傻傻的。
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---------------------------
> > Achilles Xu
> > http://www.lazycode.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:46:31 +0800
> From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PerlChina] (no subject)
> To: china-pm at pm.org
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> 呵呵。
> 看不见信的内容啊。
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Wed May 24 00:38:08 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 15:38:08 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0@skqianyi>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>
	<028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0@skqianyi>
Message-ID: <151e51480605240038y4dc91968uc2afd6466886a88e@mail.gmail.com>

我在用perl+DBI处理文本 奶奶的 挺烦人地 嘿嘿
感觉perl不错 用着也很方便
不过感觉接触的东西还是比较上
向大家学习
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From zhuzhu at perlchina.org  Wed May 24 03:36:46 2006
From: zhuzhu at perlchina.org (Zhu Zhu)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 18:36:46 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?W+iuqOiuul0g5aSn5a626YO955SoUGVybOW5sg==?=
	=?utf-8?b?5LuA5LmI77yf?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605232313y77934296wa9d296268f559847@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<74646cb40605232311j29eef5dnc632dae36ff15b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605232313y77934296wa9d296268f559847@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200605241836.47272.zhuzhu@perlchina.org>

什么公司啊？ 外企？AMZ叫你们干嘛啊。

有好心人给我介绍在成都得工作吗…… 

我得简历（这半年多在重庆科技咨询中心做LINUX系统管理，想去成都，简历没更新电话已过期请发邮件）
http://blogit.3322.org/weblog/aboutme/resume/

个人主页
http://caci.go2.icpcn.com

ubuntulinux上
https://launchpad.net/people/zhuzhu

在 星期三 24 五月 2006 14:13，黄叶 写道：
> 刚好我们公司最近在向amazon讨点活做。
> 呵呵。

From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 24 04:55:29 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:55:29 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <200605241836.47272.zhuzhu@perlchina.org>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<74646cb40605232311j29eef5dnc632dae36ff15b4@mail.gmail.com>
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	<200605241836.47272.zhuzhu@perlchina.org>
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我们是外企。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 24 04:57:02 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:57:02 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605240455y6e4e87eapb8d0839560c683ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<74646cb40605232311j29eef5dnc632dae36ff15b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605232313y77934296wa9d296268f559847@mail.gmail.com>
	<200605241836.47272.zhuzhu@perlchina.org>
	<74646cb40605240455y6e4e87eapb8d0839560c683ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74646cb40605240457v6f25da6bu8721152b85e2af78@mail.gmail.com>

不是他们叫我们干嘛。
又不是谁叫你干嘛你就干嘛的。

呵呵。
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From refile at gmail.com  Wed May 24 05:28:09 2006
From: refile at gmail.com (y6cmE)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:28:09 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <74646cb40605232346y5f4bbb1eq1dc2a85b5d6ef3c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8C84C7BB37F76FE-1D70-8CD5@mblk-d34.sysops.aol.com>
	<e22605be0605230531w9d88869s7151a0bbab76497a@mail.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605230658n6da3dfefq3a8ab2a7ab2f8818@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a6c0ba80605231844l5e7c13abua3feb9ca8e538a88@mail.gmail.com>
	<4001da2f0605232120o3f0506c9w9f001134acb9a1b2@mail.gmail.com>
	<e6d662d0605232128k2e3f5acdxcf716d24710b6849@mail.gmail.com>
	<4473F122.2030101@gmail.com>
	<707b9fab0605232254r6947d1c7receb1d16fc718f16@mail.gmail.com>
	<4473f98d.4b04315c.5c4a.0742@mx.gmail.com>
	<74646cb40605232346y5f4bbb1eq1dc2a85b5d6ef3c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f04b1600605240528qcaabce2sad272fa1200ca4bc@mail.gmail.com>

呵呵，内容应该是如下（*win8013p at gmail.com我说得对吗*）：

出错了

Can't find string terminator "END_TAG" anywhere before EOF at ./smail line
12.









win8013p at gmail.com

2006-05-24







发件人： Achilles Achilles

发送时间： 2006-05-24 13:59:36

收件人： china-pm at pm.org

抄送：

主题： Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？



是不是最后一行要加个点表示结束啊？





On 5/24/06, toby <win8013p at gmail.com> wrote:

以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢



#!/usr/bin/perl



use strict;



my($r_mail) = ' win8013 at 163.com';

my($s_mail) = 'win8013 at chinanetcenter.com';

my($subject) = 'subject';



open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail -t');

select(MAIL);



print<<"END_TAG";

To: $r_mail

From: $s_mail

Subject: $subject



ILOVECHINA



END_TAG

_______________________________________________

China-pm mailing list

China-pm at pm.org

http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm







-- 

---------------------------

Achilles Xu

http://www.lazycode.org



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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff size=2>出错了</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Can't find string terminator "END_TAG"
anywhere

before EOF at ./smail line 12.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV align=left>

<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana size=2>

<HR style="WIDTH: 122px; HEIGHT: 2px" SIZE=2>

</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT color=#c0c0c0><FONT face=Verdana

size=2>win8013p at gmail.com</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>2006-05-24</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>

<HR>

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<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG>发件人：</STRONG> Achilles

Achilles</FONT></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG>发送时间：</STRONG>

2006-05-24&nbsp;13:59:36</FONT></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG>收件人：</STRONG>

china-pm at pm.org</FONT></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG>抄送：</STRONG>
</FONT></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG>主题：</STRONG> Re:
[PerlChina][讨论]

大家都用Perl干什么？</FONT></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Verdana size=2>是不是最后一行要加个点表示结束啊？<BR><BR>

<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 5/24/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>toby</B>

&lt;<A href="mailto:win8013p at gmail.com">win8013p at gmail.com</A>&gt<win8013p at gmail.com">win8013p at gmail.com</A>&gt>;
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px
solid">以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢<BR><BR>#!/usr/bin/perl<BR><BR>use

  strict;<BR><BR>my($r_mail) = '<A
href="mailto:win8013 at 163.com<win8013 at 163.com>">


  win8013 at 163.com</A>';<BR>my($s_mail) = '<A

  href="
mailto:win8013 at chinanetcenter.com">win8013 at chinanetcenter.com</A>';<BR>my($subject<win8013 at chinanetcenter.com">win8013 at chinanetcenter.com</A>';<BR>my($subject>)


  = 'subject';<BR><BR>open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail

  -t');<BR>select(MAIL);<BR><BR>print&lt;&lt;"END_TAG"; <BR>To:
$r_mail<BR>From:

  $s_mail<BR>Subject:


$subject<BR><BR>ILOVECHINA<BR><BR>END_TAG<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>China-pm


  mailing list<BR><A
href="mailto:China-pm at pm.org">China-pm at pm.org</A><BR><A<China-pm at pm.org">China-pm at pm.org</A><BR><A>

  href="
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm">http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm</A></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR

clear=all><BR>-- <BR>---------------------------<BR>Achilles Xu<BR><A

href="http://www.lazycode.org">http://www.lazycode.org</A>

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Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:52:11 +0800
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From gaochundong at gmail.com  Wed May 24 22:42:58 2006
From: gaochundong at gmail.com (Gao Aaron)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 13:42:58 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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外企
偶E问看懂还存在一些问题
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From shijialee at gmail.com  Wed May 24 23:48:24 2006
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 02:48:24 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 17
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到论坛的 Perl文化 + 新闻 部分看看，可以和那些以前贴出招聘广告的朋友联系
一下看有没有兼职工作。

Qiang

正伟陈 wrote:
> 谁有perl的兼职项目？让我做一点哦
> 最近手头紧
> 呵呵
> 
> 
> 2006/5/24, china-pm-request at pm.org <mailto:china-pm-request at pm.org> 
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>        1. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ ( 黄叶 )
>        2. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (fayland)
>        3.  Fw: Re: Re: [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>           ( win8013p at gmail.com <mailto:win8013p at gmail.com>)
>        4. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (Yu Zhiguo)
>        5. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (Achilles Achilles)
>        6. Re:  [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？ (Yonghua (Jeff))
>        7. Re:  (no subject) ( 黄叶 )
> 
> 
>     ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 1
>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:13:49 +0800
>     From: " 黄叶 " <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
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>     刚好我们公司最近在向amazon讨点活做。
>     呵呵。
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:14:49 +0000
>     From: fayland < fayland at gmail.com <mailto:fayland at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>     To: shijialee at gmail.com
>     <mailto:shijialee at gmail.com>,  china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID: < 4473F9D9.9090905 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:4473F9D9.9090905 at gmail.com>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> 
>     Qiang ( James ) Li wrote:
>      > Joe Jiang wrote:
>      >
>      >> 那么大家在工作之余都用 perl 来玩或学什么呢？
>      >>
>      >
>      > 最近在看 CGI::Application ( Perl 里的一个网络编程框架 )，试着用它
>     写 web
>      > application. 目前感觉使用起来很简单，CPAN 上的模块也很容易的整合
>     起来。
>      >
>      > 除了 CGI::Application， 也在玩 Google Map 的接口, 主要是
>     Javascript 的东
>      > 西。虽然不是 Perl , 但结果还是比较有意思的。
>      >
>      > oh, http://to.easyya.com <http://to.easyya.com>  我用
>     CGI::Application 写的一个网站，里面也有
>      > google map 的使用。
>      >
>      > 噢，我是做 Unix 系统管理的，Perl 基本上都是用来写自动化工具，或文
>     字处理。
>      >
>      >
>      >> 我最近在用 vim-perl 来练习用 perl 扩展来在 vim 里面发 blog 到
>      >> livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>
>     <http://livejournal.com>。很有趣，大家可以参考我的 blog
>      >> entry http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html
>     <http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html>
>      >> <http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >
>      > 别具一格。have fun :)
>      >
>      > Qiang
>      >
>      >
>      >> 在06-5-24，*Anders Lee* <anderslee2003 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com>
>      >> <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com>>> 写道：
>      >>
>      >>     有同感。
>      >>     我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
>      >>     主要做一些自动化工具。
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
> 
>     我是工作要用到。用 Catalyst + DBIx::Class + TT 开发 web
>     其他的地方也用到。比如现在就要用 WWW::Mechanize 去抓取 mail 里的联系
>     人资
>     料。perl 还是挺好用的。
> 
>     --
>     Fayland Lam // http://www.fayland.org/
> 
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 3
>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:17:03 +0800
>     From: " win8013p at gmail.com <mailto:win8013p at gmail.com>"
>     <win8013p at gmail.com <mailto:win8013p at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: [PerlChina] Fw: Re: Re: [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>     To: " china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>" <china-pm at pm.org
>     <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>>
>     Message-ID: <200605241417014069179 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:200605241417014069179 at gmail.com>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="gb2312"
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     发件人：win8013p
>     发送日期：2006-05-24 14:13:33
>     收件人：china-pm at pm.org <mailto:pm at pm.org>
>     抄送：
>     主题：Re: Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> 
>     出错了
>     Can't find string terminator "END_TAG" anywhere before EOF at
>     ./smail line 12.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     win8013p at gmail.com <mailto:win8013p at gmail.com>
>     2006-05-24
> 
> 
> 
>     发件人： Achilles Achilles
>     发送时间： 2006-05-24 13:59:36
>     收件人： china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     抄送：
>     主题： Re: [PerlChina][讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> 
>     是不是最后一行要加个点表示结束啊？
> 
> 
>     On 5/24/06, toby <win8013p at gmail.com <mailto:win8013p at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     以下是个发送邮件的perl程序，我调试不成功，哪位帮忙一下，谢谢
> 
>     #!/usr/bin/perl
> 
>     use strict;
> 
>     my($r_mail) = ' win8013 at 163.com <mailto:win8013 at 163.com>';
>     my($s_mail) = 'win8013 at chinanetcenter.com
>     <mailto:win8013 at chinanetcenter.com>';
>     my($subject) = 'subject';
> 
>     open(MAIL,'|/usr/lib/sendmail -t');
>     select(MAIL);
> 
>     print<<"END_TAG";
>     To: $r_mail
>     From: $s_mail
>     Subject: $subject
> 
>     ILOVECHINA
> 
>     END_TAG
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> 
> 
>     --
>     ---------------------------
>     Achilles Xu
>     http://www.lazycode.org
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 4
>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:22:26 +0800
>     From: "Yu Zhiguo" < yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com
>     <mailto:yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>     To: <china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>>
>     Message-ID: <028c01c67efa$6dce05a0$6704a8c0 at skqianyi>
>     Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="gb2312"
> 
>     关于日志分析的工作都是用Perl来作的
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "黄叶" <hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>>
>     To: <china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>>
>     Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:58 PM
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
> 
> 
>      > 主要是用于分析日志。
>      > 做自动化的脚本。
>      >
>      > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
>      > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
>      >
>      > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key
>     replicate的工具。
>      > 不过都有点傻傻的。
>      >
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
>     Message: 5
>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:29:51 +0800
>     From: "Achilles Achilles" <formalin14 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:formalin14 at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>             <4a6c0ba80605232329k2320407wda788d0fa29156d1 at mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:4a6c0ba80605232329k2320407wda788d0fa29156d1 at mail.gmail.com>>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
> 
>     把引号去了。
> 
>     On 5/24/06, Yu Zhiguo <yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com
>     <mailto:yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com>> wrote:
>      >
>      > 关于日志分析的工作都是用Perl来作的
>      >
>      > ----- Original Message -----
>      > From: "黄叶" < hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>>
>      > To: <china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>>
>      > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:58 PM
>      > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>      >
>      >
>      > > 主要是用于分析日志。
>      > > 做自动化的脚本。
>      > >
>      > > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
>      > > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
>      > >
>      > > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key
>     replicate的工具。
>      > > 不过都有点傻傻的。
>      > >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>     --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      >
>      >
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>     Message: 6
>     Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:34:00 +0800
>     From: "Yonghua (Jeff)" <yonghua.peng at gmail.com
>     <mailto:yonghua.peng at gmail.com>>
>     Subject: Re: [PerlChina] [讨论] 大家都用Perl干什么？
>     To: china-pm at pm.org <mailto:china-pm at pm.org>
>     Message-ID:
>             <838104a80605232334n2a3486f7ndb77bc3dbb1b1e97 at mail.gmail.com
>     <mailto:838104a80605232334n2a3486f7ndb77bc3dbb1b1e97 at mail.gmail.com> >
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
> 
>     个人觉得php跟mod_perl没法比，后者基本上只使用了Apache的IO，它在后台
>     可以实现非常复杂的功能（甚至是系统层次的），远不止一个动态页面那么简
>     单。个人觉得Java比Perl/mod_perl略强，上午刚在perl-beginners列表里提
>     出了这个问题，不过也被其他人提出异议，所谓存在即合理吧，就用自己最习
>     惯的好了。
> 
>     在06-5-24，Achilles Achilles <formalin14 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:formalin14 at gmail.com>> 写道：
>      >
>      >  跟php拼，我看没什么戏。
>      > 还是做些自动化小工具吧。
>      >
>      >
>      >  On 5/23/06, 黄叶 < hylinux at gmail.com <mailto:hylinux at gmail.com>>
>     wrote:
>      >
>      > >  主要是用于分析日志。
>      > 做自动化的脚本。
>      >
>      > 现在打算用来做web. 原来是用php的。
>      > 发现php玩得没多大意思。
>      >
>      > 上次弄了个自动release的工具和一个多个数据库之间依靠primary key
>     replicate的工具。
>      > 不过都有点傻傻的。
>      >
>      >
>      >
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>      >
>      >
>      >
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>      > ---------------------------
>      > Achilles Xu
>      > http://www.lazycode.org
>      >
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Thu May 25 19:02:51 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 10:02:51 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 17
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楼上的朋友，你的帖子尾巴跟得有点长哦。
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Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 11:02:23 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 17
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Thu May 25 20:46:55 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 11:46:55 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 13, Issue 17
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呵呵。
这个倒是的。
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From barretz at gmail.com  Thu May 25 20:54:43 2006
From: barretz at gmail.com (barretz at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 11:54:43 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?W+iuqOiuul0g5aSn5a626YO955SoUGVybOW5sg==?=
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离题问一下 WWW:Merchanize 好用不好用？以前用过居然还有 coredump……

On 5/24/06, fayland <fayland at gmail.com> wrote:
> Qiang ( James ) Li wrote:
> > Joe Jiang wrote:
> >
> >> 那么大家在工作之余都用 perl 来玩或学什么呢？
> >>
> >
> > 最近在看 CGI::Application ( Perl 里的一个网络编程框架 )，试着用它写 web
> > application. 目前感觉使用起来很简单，CPAN 上的模块也很容易的整合起来。
> >
> > 除了 CGI::Application， 也在玩 Google Map 的接口, 主要是 Javascript 的东
> > 西。虽然不是 Perl , 但结果还是比较有意思的。
> >
> > oh, http://to.easyya.com  我用 CGI::Application 写的一个网站，里面也有
> > google map 的使用。
> >
> > 噢，我是做 Unix 系统管理的，Perl 基本上都是用来写自动化工具，或文字处理。
> >
> >
> >> 我最近在用 vim-perl 来练习用 perl 扩展来在 vim 里面发 blog 到
> >> livejournal.com <http://livejournal.com>。很有趣，大家可以参考我的 blog
> >> entry http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html
> >> <http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/75420.html>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 别具一格。have fun :)
> >
> > Qiang
> >
> >
> >> 在06-5-24，*Anders Lee* <anderslee2003 at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:anderslee2003 at gmail.com>> 写道：
> >>
> >>     有同感。
> >>     我也在学习perl。学习perl和工作关系不大，
> >>     主要做一些自动化工具。
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> 我是工作要用到。用 Catalyst + DBIx::Class + TT 开发 web
> 其他的地方也用到。比如现在就要用 WWW::Mechanize 去抓取 mail 里的联系人资
> 料。perl 还是挺好用的。
>
> --
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From fayland at gmail.com  Thu May 25 20:59:19 2006
From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 03:59:19 +0000
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?W+iuqOiuul0g5aSn5a626YO955SoUGVybOW5sg==?=
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barretz at gmail.com wrote:
> 离题问一下 WWW:Merchanize 好用不好用？以前用过居然还有 coredump……
>
>   

很好用。我就用它抓了 sina/sohu/163/yahoo/hotmail/gmail/tom 的邮件里的联 
系人资料。
无往不胜。 :-)

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From shijialee at gmail.com  Thu May 25 21:48:40 2006
From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 00:48:40 -0400
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?W+iuqOiuul0g5aSn5a626YO955SoUGVybOW5sg==?=
 =?utf-8?b?5LuA5LmI77yf?=
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fayland wrote:
> barretz at gmail.com wrote:
>> 离题问一下 WWW:Merchanize 好用不好用？以前用过居然还有 coredump……
>>
>>   
> 很好用。我就用它抓了 sina/sohu/163/yahoo/hotmail/gmail/tom 的邮件里的联 
> 系人资料。
> 无往不胜。 :-)
> 

同感。以前常用 LWP。但最近一直在使用 WWW::Mechanize，比如用来搜索 link 
url (find_url) 和 image url (find_all_images)。

Qiang

From hylinux at gmail.com  Thu May 25 22:32:15 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:32:15 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?Y25oYWNraW5pdNDWtcRTUUzOyszi?=
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这个是PostgreSQL里的办法。


test=# create table test ( name varchar(4));
CREATE TABLE
test=# insert into test values ('b');
INSERT 0 1
test=# insert into test values ('c');
INSERT 0 1
test=# insert into test values ('d');
INSERT 0 1
test=# insert into test values ('e');
INSERT 0 1
test=# insert into test values ('f');
INSERT 0 1
test=# select nextval('tablename_colname_seq') as line, name from test ;
 line | name
------+------
    2 | b
    3 | c
    4 | d
    5 | e
    6 | f
(5 行)

test=#
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From joejiang799 at gmail.com  Fri May 26 00:59:38 2006
From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:59:38 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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配合 WWW::Mechanize::Shell 更加 sharp :D
不用自己些代码确实很棒，我家的 fttb web login portal 就是用它解开的，这样上网之前再也不用登录那个页面了，然后可以把
W::M::S 生成的脚本绑定到 ifup 之后或者作为独立命令运行。

2006/5/26, Qiang ( James ) Li <shijialee at gmail.com>:
>
> fayland wrote:
> > barretz at gmail.com wrote:
> >> 离题问一下 WWW:Merchanize 好用不好用？以前用过居然还有 coredump……
> >>
> >>
> > 很好用。我就用它抓了 sina/sohu/163/yahoo/hotmail/gmail/tom 的邮件里的联
> > 系人资料。
> > 无往不胜。 :-)
> >
>
> 同感。以前常用 LWP。但最近一直在使用 WWW::Mechanize，比如用来搜索 link
> url (find_url) 和 image url (find_all_images)。
>
> Qiang
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From joejiang799 at gmail.com  Fri May 26 01:01:19 2006
From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:01:19 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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不用自己写代码确实很棒，reference my blog for that
script<http://joe-jiang.livejournal.com/74356.html>

在06-5-26，Joe Jiang <joejiang799 at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 配合 WWW::Mechanize::Shell 更加 sharp :D
> 不用自己些代码确实很棒，我家的 fttb web login portal 就是用它解开的，这样上网之前再也不用登录那个页面了，然后可以把
> W::M::S 生成的脚本绑定到 ifup 之后或者作为独立命令运行。
>
> 2006/5/26, Qiang ( James ) Li < shijialee at gmail.com>:
>
> > fayland wrote:
> > > barretz at gmail.com wrote:
> > >> 离题问一下 WWW:Merchanize 好用不好用？以前用过居然还有 coredump……
> > >>
> > >>
> > > 很好用。我就用它抓了 sina/sohu/163/yahoo/hotmail/gmail/tom 的邮件里的联
> > > 系人资料。
> > > 无往不胜。 :-)
> > >
> >
> > 同感。以前常用 LWP。但最近一直在使用 WWW::Mechanize，比如用来搜索 link
> > url (find_url) 和 image url (find_all_images)。
> >
> > Qiang
> > _______________________________________________
> > China-pm mailing list
> > China-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm
>
>
>
>
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>



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From ywomol at gmail.com  Fri May 26 01:05:53 2006
From: ywomol at gmail.com (YW)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:05:53 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W8zWwttdILTzvNK2vNPDUGVybLjJyrLDtKO/?=
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我是初学
尽量找目标学着写些小东西
同时尝试各种模块

昨天看电影,下到的ssa字幕mplayer不认, 我就自己写了个粗略的转换

From cnhacktnt at gmail.com  Fri May 26 03:52:23 2006
From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhacktnt)
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 18:52:23 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?q?=28no_subject=29?=
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From joejiang799 at gmail.com  Fri May 26 15:15:39 2006
From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 06:15:39 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] (no subject)
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cnhacktnt 说：

我先前也装了,不过在我的archlinux上是force install 才装上的,你在 ubuntu 上不会又是 apt 装的吧?呵呵. 目前
WWW::Mechanize::Shell 在我的 archlinux 在处理到中文页面的时候会莫名退出,也许不是中文页面的关系,呵呵,我还是先
handling by hand 好了呵呵

我说：
用 minicpan 来安装的，不复杂的。

2006/5/26, cnhacktnt <cnhacktnt at gmail.com>:
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Fri May 26 17:47:19 2006
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今天想去zend.com下载一个 Zend Optimizer™发现网站上再也不能免费下载这个软件了。
呵呵，看来PHP也是快到钱眼里去了。
连JAVA都没有这样呢。

我个人觉得有可能php会被历史遗忘掉，而且可能比较快。
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From snlei at qingcha.org  Fri May 26 21:59:03 2006
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Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 12:59:03 +0800
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真得呢..... 没话说了

2006/5/27, 黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com>:
>
> 今天想去zend.com下载一个 Zend Optimizer™发现网站上再也不能免费下载这个软件了。
> 呵呵，看来PHP也是快到钱眼里去了。
> 连JAVA都没有这样呢。
>
> 我个人觉得有可能php会被历史遗忘掉，而且可能比较快。
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唉，真没意思呢。
还是认认真真的搞我的Perl好了。
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From snlei at qingcha.org  Sat May 27 06:48:50 2006
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这倒未必吧.

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> 唉，真没意思呢。
> 还是认认真真的搞我的Perl好了。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Sat May 27 07:02:58 2006
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Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 22:02:58 +0800
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呵呵。
什么未必呢？

只是说可能嘛。
既然是有可能就是未必了。

但是不清楚你说未必指的是什么哦。
呵呵

不过认真学习和使用Perl，好像不是未必哦。

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From yonghua.peng at gmail.com  Sat May 27 07:13:03 2006
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正好beginners-lists上也在讨论Perl与PHP这个话题，我把它转一下。

>
> What are the differences between Perl and PHP?

The differences are far too many to list here.  However, I'll list a
few:

  Perl tends to run slightly faster.  Your site's visitors probably
  won't notice any lag, though.

  PHP has a more anemic syntax.  For instance, variable types are not
  really differentiated in syntax at all, which can lead to some ugly
  hacks every now and then.  On the other hand, a simpler syntax can
  make it easier to do some simple things.

  PHP has more core functions (about ten times as many, give or take).
  This is part of the reason it's slower than Perl, in fact.  This can
  make the language more accessible to beginners, since "programming"
  with PHP often involves nothing more than looking up the function you
  need to do your job.  On the other hand, while there are an ungodly
  number of functions for doing the same tasks in very slightly
  different ways in some cases, in others the functions needed to do
  some very common and simple things are strangely absent, which can be
  frustrating.

  The ability to embed PHP directly in code and have the server parse it
  is more commonly available on cheap webhosts than the ability to do
  the same with Perl, though SSI does make up some of the difference.
  Since SSI is even more anemic than PHP, and doesn't really have "core
  functions", this can lead to some juggling to handle insertion of Perl
  output into the page that isn't necessary with PHP -- but if you need
  more than SSI to do it, you probably need to do it in the Perl scripts
  anyway for the sake of good programming practice.

  PHP tends to suffer more security issues than Perl.  I'm pretty sure
  the function-heavy design of the language contributes to that, but I
  don't know for sure.  Good, security-conscious programming techniques
  should allow you to work around such security issues without too much
  trouble, however, so unless you know of specific issues that are not
  acceptable to you, this probably shouldn't make your decision for you.

  There are more beginner-level quick-start scripts out there in PHP
  that are easily modified in trivial ways than there are in Perl, from
  what I've seen.

  PHP has the potential to teach you a lot of bad habits as a programmer
  if it's the first language you learn -- but it also has the potential
  to be a very easy introduction to programming, perhaps easier than
  Perl if you're going to use either only for web programming to begin
  with.

  Perl has some of the most informative programming communities filled
  with some of the most knowledgeable programmers you're likely to find
  on the Internet.  I speak of people on this list such as Tom Phoenix
  and Randal Schwartz, and of a pretty big percentage of the population
  at perlmonks.org (I'm constantly surprised by the density of
  programming wisdom there).

  Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but I just haven't seen as much
  quality of PHP books as Perl books.

  Perl is far more fun.  Okay, so I'm biased.

  Perl regular expressions are much much MUCH better than PHP regular
  expressions.  Seriously, working with PHP regular expressions is a bit
  like trying to sort M&Ms with staples in my fingertips.  It's not fun.

  Despite my bias, I end up using PHP more for web development than PHP.
  This is in large part because for the very simplest tasks, it's just
  easier.  I could probably just use SSI and no PHP to do the very
  simple stuff that leads me to use PHP more often than Perl, but
  somehow SSI never occurs to me except when working with Perl.

  Perl is useful for a lot more than PHP, generally.  If you want to
  learn a language that will prove useful outside of web development,
  you're probably better of with Perl.  On the other hand, learning both
  eventually might be a good idea too.

Is this list too long yet?  I could go on forever.


>
> Which one is the best to build up a website?

That depends on what you're going to do with the website.  Some website
development is more easily accomplished in PHP, some in Perl.  Sometimes
factors other than ease of development come into play, too.  There's no
simple answer to that question as you asked it.  Regardless of which you
decide to use, though, you're going to need to know some XHTML, and
should know some CSS too.  Perhaps you should start there, if you don't
already know these things.  There's a reasonably good reference website
on those topics and more at http://www.w3schools.com that you can use to
get up to speed.  I occasionally refer to it myself, though I know XHTML
and CSS better than almost anyone I know.


>
> There are more and more PHP-based websites. Except the fact that ISP
> provide most of the time PHP/MySQL web hosting, why do people prefer
> using PHP instead of Perl?

It's really really easy to get started writing code in PHP and deploying
it on a web server.  Of course, this is also probably why there's more
really awful PHP in use on simple websites than really awful Perl: the
barrier to entry is lower, which means greater accessibility to people
who don't really know what they're doing.  Don't let that stop you,
though.  We all have to start somewhere.


>
> I would like to create one only using Perl. Consequently, what are the
> most used modules for this purpose?

Woah, nellie.  There's no way to give a meaningful answer to this,
really.  I guess you might say CGI is the most-used module for web
programming, and that may even be accurate, but it probably won't help
you much unless it just happens to be the right answer for you by some
kind of coincidence.  It's typically better to come up with a site
architecture and a plan for how you're going to implement it, then start
looking for modules to fulfill your needs, rather than to get a list of
commonly used modules and look for ways to develop your site using them.

As much as it pains me to say it, I think you might be best served to
start out with PHP, and come back to Perl when you have a bit more of a
grasp of what you're doing with web programming.  I've personally found
that it seems to work better to start learning Perl for reasons other
than web programming and to come back to web programming once some more
general understanding of Perl is gleaned.  I ended up learning PHP
mostly to cover the web programming side of things while using Perl for
simple system administration tasks and so on, until I got to a point
where I knew Perl well enough to be able to apply it intelligently to
web development.  Some of this, I'm sure, has to do with the fact that
the really good resources for Perl tend to be focused on tasks more
related to systems administration and glue code, while web development
resources for Perl are often written by people trying to make a fast
buck who aren't necessarily experts.  PHP resources aren't any better,
but as I pointed out before it's easier to get started with PHP for web
development if you're coming to it from knowing nothing at all.

Of course, if I wasn't simultaneously learning Perl while learning PHP
for web development, I'm pretty sure my PHP skills would have
consistently sucked all along, too.  Learning Perl taught me good habits
that I've been able to apply to PHP.  When learning PHP, I recommend you
also learn another language pretty much at the same time, for some other
purpose than web programming -- a language with a rich syntax and a very
good community with very good free resources like PerlMonks.  It'll make
you a better PHP programmer.  Perl is particularly suited to this, since
before PHP was its own programming language, it was just a toolkit for
web development built using Perl.

That's my take on it.  Someone else is sure to have a take that
completely disagrees.




在06-5-27，黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 呵呵。
> 什么未必呢？
>
> 只是说可能嘛。
> 既然是有可能就是未必了。
>
> 但是不清楚你说未必指的是什么哦。
> 呵呵
>
> 不过认真学习和使用Perl，好像不是未必哦。
>
> *^-^*
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From glumtail at gmail.com  Sat May 27 07:18:54 2006
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Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 22:18:54 +0800
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职业帮人做web的可能用php比较多，如果只做自己的事，那显然用perl。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Sat May 27 22:06:13 2006
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Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 13:06:13 +0800
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PHP好像也只能用来做web, 其他的方面怎么说都是很牵强的。
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From cnhacktnt at gmail.com  Sun May 28 05:58:18 2006
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Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 20:58:18 +0800
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像PHP,专注于 WEB 是很明智的,如果当初它选择了和 perl 一样的路,肯定不能达到现在这样普及的程度,它想像 Perl 一样做到融入各个方面甚至变成一种文化,是不容易的。
另外 Zend 目前放出了 Zend Framework Preview 0.1.3，在 http://framework.zend.com/ 。
用 PHP 做 Web 开发还是很不错的。懂 Perl 的人学 PHP 会很容易上手，反之亦然 :-)




cnhacktnt
2006-05-28



发件人： 黄叶
发送时间： 2006-05-28 13:07:11
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主题： Re: [PerlChina] Zend已经不允许免费下载Zend Optimizer?

PHP好像也只能用来做web, 其他的方面怎么说都是很牵强的。
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From hackgou at gmail.com  Sun May 28 06:43:20 2006
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Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 21:43:20 +0800
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嗯，中肯的说

黄叶 wrote:
> PHP好像也只能用来做web, 其他的方面怎么说都是很牵强的。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Sun May 28 08:07:34 2006
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反之可不亦然。

呵呵。除非是浅尝即止。


2006/5/28, hackgou <hackgou at gmail.com>:
懂 Perl 的人学 PHP 会很容易上手，反之亦然 :-)
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Tue May 30 19:00:24 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 10:00:24 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?REJJ1tDI1cbatcTOyszi?=
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HI, 各位
遇到了一个问题。
在使用DBI进行查询数据库的时候，
如果是日期字段，DBI会根据计算机的时间区域，自动进行转换，
比如我的电脑是中国上海的，那么查询出来的日期字段就变成了中文的了。
这在进一步计算的时候就有麻烦了，比如说用Date::Manip的UnixDate就会出错了。

如何将DBI的这种特性暂时的关闭掉？

谢谢各位。
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From glumtail at gmail.com  Wed May 31 02:16:55 2006
From: glumtail at gmail.com (glumtail)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:16:55 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?REJJ1tDI1cbatcTOyszi?=
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我怎么没发现这种问题？
我DBI连Oracle时对应数据库本身的时间格式

黄叶 wrote:
> HI, 各位
> 遇到了一个问题。
> 在使用DBI进行查询数据库的时候，
> 如果是日期字段，DBI会根据计算机的时间区域，自动进行转换，
> 比如我的电脑是中国上海的，那么查询出来的日期字段就变成了中文的了。
> 这在进一步计算的时候就有麻烦了，比如说用Date::Manip的UnixDate就会出错了。
>
> 如何将DBI的这种特性暂时的关闭掉？
>
> 谢谢各位。
>
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From jzhou722 at gmail.com  Wed May 31 04:45:49 2006
From: jzhou722 at gmail.com (Jie)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 19:45:49 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?ztK4+LG+v8bJ+snPv87Kscq508O1xNHdyr4=?=
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介绍生物信息学，其中大力鼓吹perl和perlchina...
演示pdf文件见：  
http://homepage.fudan.edu.cn/~jzhou/bioinfo_perl.pdf

klaus
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 31 05:31:19 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:31:19 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?REJJ1tDI1cbatcTOyszi?=
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我想可能是DBD的驱动的问题。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 31 05:34:48 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:34:48 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?ztK4+LG+v8bJ+snPv87Kscq508O1xNHdyr4=?=
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看看。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 31 05:40:53 2006
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:40:53 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?ztK4+LG+v8bJ+snPv87Kscq508O1xNHdyr4=?=
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不错的说。
不过Perl好像不是太慢。
最起码不会比JAVA慢多少啊。
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 31 05:42:02 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:42:02 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?ztK4+LG+v8bJ+snPv87Kscq508O1xNHdyr4=?=
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确切的说，不比JAVA慢。
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From yonghua.peng at gmail.com  Wed May 31 06:01:04 2006
From: yonghua.peng at gmail.com (Yonghua (Jeff))
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:01:04 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?ztK4+LG+v8bJ+snPv87Kscq508O1xNHdyr4=?=
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Licoln Stein就是哈佛大学学生物的，在Perl网络编程这块，与c/c++ socket编程之父Richard Steven比肩。Perl
Netwrok Programming即出自其人之手。另外，常用的CGI.pm,GD.pm都是他所写。

在06-5-31，黄叶 <hylinux at gmail.com> 写道：
>
> 确切的说，不比JAVA慢。
>
>
>
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From hylinux at gmail.com  Wed May 31 06:07:44 2006
From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 21:07:44 +0800
Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?ztK4+LG+v8bJ+snPv87Kscq508O1xNHdyr4=?=
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确实。
我就有这本 Perl Network programming

呵呵。
仔细读过了。
受益菲浅。
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