From flyli3415 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 05:42:48 2005 From: flyli3415 at gmail.com (lof) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:42:48 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gbk?b?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= Message-ID: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> 怎么没有邮件呢? 还是订阅的人比较少呢? -- Regards lof From flyli3415 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 06:33:57 2005 From: flyli3415 at gmail.com (lof) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:33:57 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] test Message-ID: <200512042233.57913.flyli3415@gmail.com> test 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 -- Regards lof From fayland at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 06:55:17 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:55:17 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIOi/meS4qumCruS7tuWIl+ihqOWcqOS9v+eUqA==?= =?utf-8?B?5ZCX77yf?= References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> yes. welcome Best Regards ------------- /Fayland Lam/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "lof" To: "perl-cn" Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > 怎么没有邮件呢? > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > -- > Regards > > lof > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From shijialee at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 06:53:53 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:53:53 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] test In-Reply-To: <200512042233.57913.flyli3415@gmail.com> References: <200512042233.57913.flyli3415@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512040653v2b413c2fh59c789e7064090a8@mail.gmail.com> 收到了。这里最近比较安静罢了。 以前发的邮件在 archive 里可以看到: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm Qiang On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > test > 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 > -- > Regards > > lof > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From formalin14 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 17:50:47 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:47 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] test In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512040653v2b413c2fh59c789e7064090a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042233.57913.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512040653v2b413c2fh59c789e7064090a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512041750w577e362ap@mail.gmail.com> 可以收到。 2005/12/4, Qiang (James) Li : > > 收到了。这里最近比较安静罢了。 > 以前发的邮件在 archive 里可以看到: > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > Qiang > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > test > > 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 > > -- > > Regards > > > > lof > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?G??!??? From saladjonk at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 19:42:58 2005 From: saladjonk at gmail.com (salad jonk) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:42:58 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance examination On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > > yes. welcome > > Best Regards > ------------- > /Fayland Lam/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lof" > To: "perl-cn" > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > -- > > Regards > > > > lof > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- I am young,so my heart is full of dream -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9??|????!??? From anderslee2003 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 20:09:04 2005 From: anderslee2003 at gmail.com (Anders Lee) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:09:04 +0900 Subject: [PerlChina] =?GB2312?b?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= In-Reply-To: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > -- > Regards > > lof > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 21:00:48 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:00:48 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com> 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > -- > > Regards > > > > lof > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?n4kn????!??? From loader at freebsdmall.com Sun Dec 4 22:31:02 2005 From: loader at freebsdmall.com (loader) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:31:02 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com> (Formalin Achilles's message of "Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:00:48 +0800") References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 说说看体会? Formalin Achilles wrote: > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > lof >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶©Ôĵġ£ > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > »¹ÊǶ©ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > -- > Regards > > lof > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From formalin14 at gmail.com Sun Dec 4 22:38:29 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:38:29 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p@mail.gmail.com> 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 2005/12/5, loader : > > > 说说看体会? > > Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > >> > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > >> > >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > lof > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º > > > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > -- > > Regards > > > > lof > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9w References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4001da2f0512050340q756d92ces6bd9dd902c08adc2@mail.gmail.com> 当一个人真正为perl狂热的时候,他可能就会自己去实现select函数, 而不是等待别人的恩赐。 那个时候也往往是他逐步提高的时期。 On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > > 2005/12/5, loader : > > > > > > 说说看体会? > > > > Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > > > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > > > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > >> > > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > >> > > >> > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> > > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > >> > -- > > >> > Regards > > >> > > > >> > lof > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > Achilles Xu > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > > > > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee < anderslee2003 at gmail.com> дµÀ£º > > > > > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > > -- > > > Regards > > > > > > lof > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > Achilles Xu > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9u<4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com><4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com><4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512050340q756d92ces6bd9dd902c08adc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c5fa26$8486dfa0$5ad1313d@lixhost> 说的虽然有道理,但是不切合实际。毕竟大部分人是使用者,尤其在国内。大家更加注重的是方便的使用。 ----- Original Message ----- From: Anders Lee To: china-pm at pm.org Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? 当一个人真正为perl狂热的时候,他可能就会自己去实现select函数, 而不是等待别人的恩赐。 那个时候也往往是他逐步提高的时期。 On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 2005/12/5, loader : 说说看体会? Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > lof >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee < anderslee2003 at gmail.com> дµÀ£º > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶©Ôĵġ£ > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > »¹ÊǶ©ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > -- > Regards > > lof > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9mv9k!M5٥ From ttii at linuxaid.com.cn Mon Dec 5 17:03:32 2005 From: ttii at linuxaid.com.cn (=?utf-8?B?5piO5piO?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:03:32 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?Q2hpbmEtcG1fRGlnZXN0LF9Wb2xfOCxfSXNzdWVf?= =?utf-8?q?2?= Message-ID: <20051206010336.05E0B64FE6@smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> china-pm-request,您好! 我每天都能收到,但是很遗憾80%以上都是方块或者乱码 不知道怎么回事 非常郁闷阿 ======= 2005-12-05 14:38:45 您在来信中写道:======= >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > china-pm at pm.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > china-pm-request at pm.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > china-pm-owner at pm.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: test (Formalin Achilles) > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (salad jonk) > 3. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Anders Lee) > 4. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > 5. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (loader) > 6. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:47 +0800 >From: Formalin Achilles >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] test >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512041750w577e362ap at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > >可以收到。 > >2005/12/4, Qiang (James) Li : >> >> 收到了。这里最近比较安静罢了。 >> 以前发的邮件在 archive 里可以看到: >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> Qiang >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > test >> > 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > lof >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > >-- >--------------------------- >Achilles Xu >http://www.formalin14.org >-------------- next part -------------- >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?G??!??M5?? > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:42:58 +0800 >From: salad jonk >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > >I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance examination > >On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: >> >> yes. welcome >> >> Best Regards >> ------------- >> /Fayland Lam/ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "lof" >> To: "perl-cn" >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM >> Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> >> >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > lof >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > >-- >I am young,so my heart is full of dream >-------------- next part -------------- >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9??|????!??M5?? > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:09:04 +0900 >From: Anders Lee >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: > <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > >不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > >On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> >> 怎么没有邮件呢? >> 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> -- >> Regards >> >> lof >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >-------------- next part -------------- >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?????!??M5?? > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:00:48 +0800 >From: Formalin Achilles >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > >不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > >在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > lof >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > >-- >--------------------------- >Achilles Xu >http://www.formalin14.org >-------------- next part -------------- >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?n4kn????!??M5?? > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:31:02 +0800 >From: loader >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > >说说看体会? > >Formalin Achilles wrote: > >> 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 >> >> 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >>> >>> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >>> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >>> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >>> >>> >>> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >>> > >>> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >>> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >>> > -- >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > lof >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > China-pm mailing list >>> > China-pm at pm.org >>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> China-pm mailing list >>> China-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------- >> Achilles Xu >> http://www.formalin14.org >> ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ >> >> ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º >> >> ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶©Ôĵġ£ >> ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ >> perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ >> >> >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> >> ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ >> »¹ÊǶ©ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ >> -- >> Regards >> >> lof >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------- >> Achilles Xu >> http://www.formalin14.org >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:38:29 +0800 >From: Formalin Achilles >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > >2005/12/5, loader : >> >> >> 说说看体会? >> >> Formalin Achilles wrote: >> >> > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 >> > >> > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> >> >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> >> > >> >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> >> > -- >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > lof >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > China-pm mailing list >> >> > China-pm at pm.org >> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> China-pm mailing list >> >> China-pm at pm.org >> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --------------------------- >> > Achilles Xu >> > http://www.formalin14.org >> > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ >> > >> > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º >> > >> > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ >> > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ >> > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ >> > >> > >> > >> > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ >> > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > lof >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --------------------------- >> > Achilles Xu >> > http://www.formalin14.org >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > >-- >--------------------------- >Achilles Xu >http://www.formalin14.org >-------------- next part -------------- >q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9w >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >China-pm mailing list >China-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2 >************************************** = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =         致 礼!         明明         ttii at linuxaid.com.cn           2005-12-06 From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:48:48 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:48:48 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <001d01c5fa26$8486dfa0$5ad1313d@lixhost> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512050340q756d92ces6bd9dd902c08adc2@mail.gmail.com> <001d01c5fa26$8486dfa0$5ad1313d@lixhost> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512051748g64335c3dl@mail.gmail.com> 我只对编程狂热,而不是单对perl狂热。多路复用是windows的先天缺憾,即便实现了,其效率也会受影响,另外部署起来也要附加很多东西。所以如果有人实现了,我还可以拿来用用,如果没有,那就还是按windows的编程模型走吧。毕竟对api的选择,还是越直接和系统调用打交道越好。看看awt和swing的效率比较就知道了。 2005/12/6, lix : > >  说的虽然有道理,但是不切合实际。毕竟大部分人是使用者,尤其在国内。大家更加注重的是方便的使用。 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Anders Lee > *To:* china-pm at pm.org > *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 3:40 AM > *Subject:* Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > 当一个人真正为perl狂热的时候,他可能就会自己去实现select函数, > 而不是等待别人的恩赐。 > 那个时候也往往是他逐步提高的时期。 > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > > 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > > > > 2005/12/5, loader : > > > > > > > > > 说说看体会? > > > > > > Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > > > > > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > > >> > > > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Regards > > > >> > > > > >> > lof > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> China-pm mailing list > > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > > > > > > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee < anderslee2003 at gmail.com> дµÀ£º > > > > > > > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > > > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > > > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > > > > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > > > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > lof > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m::{M!M5٥ From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:50:03 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:50:03 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: use POE to solve the select problem. 其实早就有比 select 更好的实现方式了,在 wiki 上面关于 POE 的文章也有 2/3 篇了。上次上海聚会也讲解了 POE 而且还真有人听懂了。 在05-12-5,salad jonk 写道: > > I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance > examination > > On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > > > > yes. welcome > > > > Best Regards > > ------------- > > /Fayland Lam/ < http://www.fayland.org/> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lof" > > To: "perl-cn" < china-pm at pm.org> > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > > Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > > > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > -- > > > Regards > > > > > > lof > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > I am young,so my heart is full of dream > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?:????7????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:53:49 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:53:49 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 在05-12-6,Joe Jiang 写道: > > use POE to solve the select problem. > 其实早就有比 select 更好的实现方式了,在 wiki 上面关于 POE 的文章也有 2/3 篇了。上次上海聚会也讲解了 POE > 而且还真有人听懂了。 > > 在05-12-5,salad jonk 写道: > > > > I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance > > examination > > > > On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > > > > > > yes. welcome > > > > > > Best Regards > > > ------------- > > > /Fayland Lam/ < http://www.fayland.org/> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "lof" > > > To: "perl-cn" < china-pm at pm.org> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > > > Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > > > > > > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > > -- > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > lof > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > -- > > I am young,so my heart is full of dream > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?:????_k?!??? From u2chcai at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 17:57:52 2005 From: u2chcai at gmail.com (Eric Cai) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:57:52 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6012f7ba0512051757x72556312m@mail.gmail.com> 就是啊,我也是经常能够收到,但是乱码和方块很多啊。 2005/12/6, china-pm-request at pm.org : > Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > china-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > china-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_2 ( 明明 ) > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:03:32 +0800 > From: " 明明 " > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_2 > To: " china-pm at pm.org " > Message-ID: <20051206010336.05E0B64FE6 at smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > china-pm-request,您好! > > 我每天都能收到,但是很遗憾80%以上都是方块或者乱码 > 不知道怎么回事 > 非常郁闷阿 > > ======= 2005-12-05 14:38:45 您在来信中写道:======= > > >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > > china-pm at pm.org > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > china-pm-request at pm.org > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: test (Formalin Achilles) > > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (salad jonk) > > 3. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Anders Lee) > > 4. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > 5. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (loader) > > 6. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:47 +0800 > >From: Formalin Achilles > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] test > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512041750w577e362ap at mail.gmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > >可以收到。 > > > >2005/12/4, Qiang (James) Li : > >> > >> 收到了。这里最近比较安静罢了。 > >> 以前发的邮件在 archive 里可以看到: > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > >> Qiang > >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> > test > >> > 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > lof > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > >-- > >--------------------------- > >Achilles Xu > >http://www.formalin14.org > >-------------- next part -------------- > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?G??!??M5?? > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 2 > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:42:58 +0800 > >From: salad jonk > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > >I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance examination > > > >On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > >> > >> yes. welcome > >> > >> Best Regards > >> ------------- > >> /Fayland Lam/ > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "lof" > >> To: "perl-cn" > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > >> Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > >> > >> > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > lof > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > >-- > >I am young,so my heart is full of dream > >-------------- next part -------------- > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9??|????!??M5?? > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 3 > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:09:04 +0900 > >From: Anders Lee > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: > > <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773 at mail.gmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > >不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > >中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > >perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > > > > >On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> > >> 怎么没有邮件呢? > >> 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > >> -- > >> Regards > >> > >> lof > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >-------------- next part -------------- > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?????!??M5?? > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 4 > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:00:48 +0800 > >From: Formalin Achilles > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w at mail.gmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > >不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > >在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > >> > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > >> > >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > lof > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >--------------------------- > >Achilles Xu > >http://www.formalin14.org > >-------------- next part -------------- > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?n4kn????!??M5?? > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 5 > >Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:31:02 +0800 > >From: loader > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > >说说看体会? > > > >Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > >> 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > >> > >> 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > >>> > >>> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > >>> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > >>> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > >>> > >>> > >>> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >>> > > >>> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > >>> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > >>> > -- > >>> > Regards > >>> > > >>> > lof > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > China-pm mailing list > >>> > China-pm at pm.org > >>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> China-pm mailing list > >>> China-pm at pm.org > >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> --------------------------- > >> Achilles Xu > >> http://www.formalin14.org > >> ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > >> > >> ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º > >> > >> ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > >> ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > >> perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> > >> ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > >> »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > >> -- > >> Regards > >> > >> lof > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> --------------------------- > >> Achilles Xu > >> http://www.formalin14.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 6 > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:38:29 +0800 > >From: Formalin Achilles > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p at mail.gmail.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > > > >2005/12/5, loader : > >> > >> > >> 说说看体会? > >> > >> Formalin Achilles wrote: > >> > >> > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > >> > > >> > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > >> >> > >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > >> >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > >> >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > >> >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > > >> >> > lof > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > China-pm mailing list > >> >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> China-pm mailing list > >> >> China-pm at pm.org > >> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > --------------------------- > >> > Achilles Xu > >> > http://www.formalin14.org > >> > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > >> > > >> > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º > >> > > >> > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > >> > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > >> > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > >> > > >> > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > >> > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > lof > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > --------------------------- > >> > Achilles Xu > >> > http://www.formalin14.org > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > China-pm mailing list > >> > China-pm at pm.org > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > >-- > >--------------------------- > >Achilles Xu > >http://www.formalin14.org > >-------------- next part -------------- > >q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9w > > >------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >China-pm mailing list > >China-pm at pm.org > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2 > >************************************** > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > 致 > 礼! > > > 明明 > ttii at linuxaid.com.cn > 2005-12-06 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:48:48 +0800 > From: Formalin Achilles > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > To: china-pm at pm.org > Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512051748g64335c3dl at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > 我只对编程狂热,而不是单对perl狂热。多路复用是windows的先天缺憾,即便实现了,其效率也会受影响,另外部署起来也要附加很多东西。所以如果有人实现了,我还可以拿来用用,如果没有,那就还是按windows的编程模型走吧。毕竟对api的选择,还是越直接和系统调用打交道越好。看看awt和swing的效率比较就知道了。 > > 2005/12/6, lix : > > > > 说的虽然有道理,但是不切合实际。毕竟大部分人是使用者,尤其在国内。大家更加注重的是方便的使用。 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Anders Lee > > *To:* china-pm at pm.org > > *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 3:40 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > > > 当一个人真正为perl狂热的时候,他可能就会自己去实现select函数, > > 而不是等待别人的恩赐。 > > 那个时候也往往是他逐步提高的时期。 > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > > > > 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > > > > > > 2005/12/5, loader : > > > > > > > > > > > > 说说看体会? > > > > > > > > Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > > > > > > > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > > > >> > > > > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > > > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > > > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > > >> > -- > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > > > > > >> > lof > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> China-pm mailing list > > > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > > > > > > > > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee < anderslee2003 at gmail.com> дµÀ£º > > > > > > > > > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > > > > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > > > > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > > > > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > lof > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------- > > > Achilles Xu > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > -------------- next part -------------- > q�0����!���k,r��m�TD�m�������j+��b���j)r�j��j�Zr���?�M9�m:��:{M���!���٥ > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 > ************************************** > From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 18:01:06 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:01:06 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 没错,就是那个事件框架,最近开始支持 grid 的那个,在很多语言中都有了集成。而 perl 目前还是以 POE 为最强。 POE 与 select 的比较好像 perl 与 awk 的比较。 顺便说一下 ruby 的 druby 还是很有特色的,早就可以用来做 grid 了。啥时候有了 dperl 就太酷了。 在05-12-6,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > > 在05-12-6,Joe Jiang 写道: > > > > use POE to solve the select problem. > > 其实早就有比 select 更好的实现方式了,在 wiki 上面关于 POE 的文章也有 2/3 篇了。上次上海聚会也讲解了 POE > > 而且还真有人听懂了。 > > > > 在05-12-5,salad jonk 写道: > > > > > > I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance > > > examination > > > > > > On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > > > > > > > > yes. welcome > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > ------------- > > > > /Fayland Lam/ < http://www.fayland.org/> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "lof" > > > > To: "perl-cn" < china-pm at pm.org> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > > > > Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > > > > > > > > > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > > > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > lof > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > I am young,so my heart is full of dream > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?:?G{?^????!??? From fayland at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 18:08:09 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:08:09 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 References: <6012f7ba0512051757x72556312m@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01c5fa09$e9491e20$bd0d1dac@fayland> 编码设置为 utf8 就可以了吧。如果还不行就 gb2312 不过 Qiang 发来的怎么也是乱码,其他都正常的。:) Best Regards ------------- /Fayland Lam/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Cai" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 > 就是啊,我也是经常能够收到,但是乱码和方块很多啊。 > > 2005/12/6, china-pm-request at pm.org : > > Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > > china-pm at pm.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > china-pm-request at pm.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_2 ( 明明 ) > > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:03:32 +0800 > > From: " 明明 " > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_2 > > To: " china-pm at pm.org " > > Message-ID: <20051206010336.05E0B64FE6 at smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > china-pm-request,您好! > > > > 我每天都能收到,但是很遗憾80%以上都是方块或者乱码 > > 不知道怎么回事 > > 非常郁闷阿 > > > > ======= 2005-12-05 14:38:45 您在来信中写道:======= > > > > >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > > > china-pm at pm.org > > > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > china-pm-request at pm.org > > > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: test (Formalin Achilles) > > > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (salad jonk) > > > 3. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Anders Lee) > > > 4. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > > 5. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (loader) > > > 6. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >Message: 1 > > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:47 +0800 > > >From: Formalin Achilles > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] test > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512041750w577e362ap at mail.gmail.com> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > > > >可以收到。 > > > > > >2005/12/4, Qiang (James) Li : > > >> > > >> 收到了。这里最近比较安静罢了。 > > >> 以前发的邮件在 archive 里可以看到: > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > >> Qiang > > >> > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> > test > > >> > 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 > > >> > -- > > >> > Regards > > >> > > > >> > lof > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >--------------------------- > > >Achilles Xu > > >http://www.formalin14.org > > >-------------- next part -------------- > > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?G??!??M5?? > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >Message: 2 > > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:42:58 +0800 > > >From: salad jonk > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: > > > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > > > >I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance examination > > > > > >On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > > >> > > >> yes. welcome > > >> > > >> Best Regards > > >> ------------- > > >> /Fayland Lam/ > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "lof" > > >> To: "perl-cn" > > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > > >> Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > >> > > >> > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > >> > -- > > >> > Regards > > >> > > > >> > lof > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >I am young,so my heart is full of dream > > >-------------- next part -------------- > > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9??|????!??M5?? > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >Message: 3 > > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:09:04 +0900 > > >From: Anders Lee > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: > > > <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773 at mail.gmail.com> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > > > >不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > >中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > >perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > > > > > > > >On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> > > >> 怎么没有邮件呢? > > >> 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > >> -- > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> lof > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >-------------- next part -------------- > > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?????!??M5?? > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >Message: 4 > > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:00:48 +0800 > > >From: Formalin Achilles > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w at mail.gmail.com> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" > > > > > >不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > > > >在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > >> > > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > >> > > >> > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> > > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > >> > -- > > >> > Regards > > >> > > > >> > lof > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >--------------------------- > > >Achilles Xu > > >http://www.formalin14.org > > >-------------- next part -------------- > > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?n4kn????!??M5?? > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >Message: 5 > > >Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:31:02 +0800 > > >From: loader > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > > > >说说看体会? > > > > > >Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > > > >> 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > >> > > >> 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > >>> > > >>> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > >>> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > >>> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > >>> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > >>> > -- > > >>> > Regards > > >>> > > > >>> > lof > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > China-pm mailing list > > >>> > China-pm at pm.org > > >>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> China-pm mailing list > > >>> China-pm at pm.org > > >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> --------------------------- > > >> Achilles Xu > > >> http://www.formalin14.org > > >> ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > >> > > >> ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º > > >> > > >> ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > >> ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > >> perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> > > >> ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > >> »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > >> -- > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> lof > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> --------------------------- > > >> Achilles Xu > > >> http://www.formalin14.org > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >Message: 6 > > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:38:29 +0800 > > >From: Formalin Achilles > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p at mail.gmail.com> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > >比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > > > > > >2005/12/5, loader : > > >> > > >> > > >> 说说看体会? > > >> > > >> Formalin Achilles wrote: > > >> > > >> > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > >> > > > >> > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > >> >> > > >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > >> >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > >> >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > >> >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > Regards > > >> >> > > > >> >> > lof > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> >> China-pm mailing list > > >> >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > --------------------------- > > >> > Achilles Xu > > >> > http://www.formalin14.org > > >> > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > >> > > > >> > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º > > >> > > > >> > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > >> > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > >> > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > >> > > > >> > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > >> > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > >> > -- > > >> > Regards > > >> > > > >> > lof > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > --------------------------- > > >> > Achilles Xu > > >> > http://www.formalin14.org > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> China-pm mailing list > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >--------------------------- > > >Achilles Xu > > >http://www.formalin14.org > > >-------------- next part -------------- > > >q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9w > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >China-pm mailing list > > >China-pm at pm.org > > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2 > > >************************************** > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > 致 > > 礼! > > > > > > 明明 > > ttii at linuxaid.com.cn > > 2005-12-06 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:48:48 +0800 > > From: Formalin Achilles > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > To: china-pm at pm.org > > Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512051748g64335c3dl at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > 我只对编程狂热,而不是单对perl狂热。多路复用是windows的先天缺憾,即便实现了,其效率也会受影响,另外部署起来也要附加很多东西。所以如果有人实现了,我还可以拿来用用,如果没有,那就还是按windows的编程模型走吧。毕竟对api的选择,还是越直接和系统调用打交道越好。看看awt和swing的效率比较就知道了。 > > > > 2005/12/6, lix : > > > > > > 说的虽然有道理,但是不切合实际。毕竟大部分人是使用者,尤其在国内。大家更加注重的是方便的使用。 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > *From:* Anders Lee > > > *To:* china-pm at pm.org > > > *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 3:40 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > > > > > > 当一个人真正为perl狂热的时候,他可能就会自己去实现select函数, > > > 而不是等待别人的恩赐。 > > > 那个时候也往往是他逐步提高的时期。 > > > > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > > > > > > 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 > > > > > > > > 2005/12/5, loader : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 说说看体会? > > > > > > > > > > Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 > > > > > > > > > > > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 > > > > > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 > > > > > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > lof > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > China-pm mailing list > > > > > >> > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> China-pm mailing list > > > > > >> China-pm at pm.org > > > > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > > > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ > > > > > > > > > > > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee < anderslee2003 at gmail.com> дµÀ£º > > > > > > > > > > > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ > > > > > > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ > > > > > > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ > > > > > > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > lof > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > --------------------------- > > > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --------------------------- > > > > Achilles Xu > > > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > -------------- next part -------------- > > q�0����!���k,r��m�TD�m�������j+��b���j)r�j��j�Zr���?�M9�m:��:{M���!���٥ > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 > > ************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From xiang.li at net263.com Mon Dec 5 18:10:18 2005 From: xiang.li at net263.com (=?UTF-8?B?5p2O5ZON77yI5a6J5YWo77yJ?=) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:10:18 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 References: <6012f7ba0512051757x72556312m@mail.gmail.com> <001d01c5fa09$e9491e20$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: <005c01c5fa0a$34f9cbd0$c9e29dd3@lixnote> 为什么别的邮箱一直很正常,就PERL的这个总是有这样或者那样的问题? ----- Original Message ----- From: "fayland" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 > 编码设置为 utf8 就可以了吧。如果还不行就 gb2312 > 不过 Qiang 发来的怎么也是乱码,其他都正常的。:) > > Best Regards > ------------- > /Fayland Lam/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Cai" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 > > >> 就是啊,我也是经常能够收到,但是乱码和方块很多啊。 >> >> 2005/12/6, china-pm-request at pm.org : >> > Send China-pm mailing list submissions to >> > china-pm at pm.org >> > >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > china-pm-request at pm.org >> > >> > You can reach the person managing the list at >> > china-pm-owner at pm.org >> > >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." >> > >> > >> > Today's Topics: >> > >> > 1. Re: China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_2 ( 明明 ) >> > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > Message: 1 >> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:03:32 +0800 >> > From: " 明明 " >> > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_2 >> > To: " china-pm at pm.org " >> > Message-ID: <20051206010336.05E0B64FE6 at smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > >> > china-pm-request,您好! >> > >> > 我每天都能收到,但是很遗憾80%以上都是方块或者乱码 >> > 不知道怎么回事 >> > 非常郁闷阿 >> > >> > ======= 2005-12-05 14:38:45 您在来信中写道:======= >> > >> > >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to >> > > china-pm at pm.org >> > > >> > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> > > china-pm-request at pm.org >> > > >> > >You can reach the person managing the list at >> > > china-pm-owner at pm.org >> > > >> > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> > >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." >> > > >> > > >> > >Today's Topics: >> > > >> > > 1. Re: test (Formalin Achilles) >> > > 2. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (salad jonk) >> > > 3. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Anders Lee) >> > > 4. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) >> > > 5. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (loader) >> > > 6. Re: 这个邮件列表在使用吗? (Formalin Achilles) >> > > >> > > >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > >Message: 1 >> > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:50:47 +0800 >> > >From: Formalin Achilles >> > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] test >> > >To: china-pm at pm.org >> > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512041750w577e362ap at mail.gmail.com> >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" >> > > >> > >可以收到。 >> > > >> > >2005/12/4, Qiang (James) Li : >> > >> >> > >> 收到了。这里最近比较安静罢了。 >> > >> 以前发的邮件在 archive 里可以看到: >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> > >> Qiang >> > >> >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > test >> > >> > 如果有人可以收到,请回一个,我想确认一下我是否订阅成功 >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > lof >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >--------------------------- >> > >Achilles Xu >> > >http://www.formalin14.org >> > >-------------- next part -------------- >> > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?G??!??M5?? >> > > >> > >------------------------------ >> > > >> > >Message: 2 >> > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:42:58 +0800 >> > >From: salad jonk >> > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > >To: china-pm at pm.org >> > >Message-ID: >> > > >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" >> > > >> > >I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance >> > >examination >> > > >> > >On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: >> > >> >> > >> yes. welcome >> > >> >> > >> Best Regards >> > >> ------------- >> > >> /Fayland Lam/ >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "lof" >> > >> To: "perl-cn" >> > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM >> > >> Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > lof >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >I am young,so my heart is full of dream >> > >-------------- next part -------------- >> > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9??|????!??M5?? >> > > >> > >------------------------------ >> > > >> > >Message: 3 >> > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:09:04 +0900 >> > >From: Anders Lee >> > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > >To: china-pm at pm.org >> > >Message-ID: >> > > <4001da2f0512042009l4a0a0ac2o2d8e795858ad6773 at mail.gmail.com> >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" >> > > >> > >不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> > >中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> > >perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> > > >> > > >> > >On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> >> > >> 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > >> 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > >> -- >> > >> Regards >> > >> >> > >> lof >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >-------------- next part -------------- >> > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?????!??M5?? >> > > >> > >------------------------------ >> > > >> > >Message: 4 >> > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:00:48 +0800 >> > >From: Formalin Achilles >> > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > >To: china-pm at pm.org >> > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042100x3aba6dd9w at mail.gmail.com> >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" >> > > >> > >不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 >> > > >> > >在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> > >> >> > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > lof >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >--------------------------- >> > >Achilles Xu >> > >http://www.formalin14.org >> > >-------------- next part -------------- >> > >q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?9?n4kn????!??M5?? >> > > >> > >------------------------------ >> > > >> > >Message: 5 >> > >Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:31:02 +0800 >> > >From: loader >> > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > >To: china-pm at pm.org >> > >Message-ID: >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> > > >> > > >> > >说说看体会? >> > > >> > >Formalin Achilles wrote: >> > > >> > >> 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 >> > >> >> > >> 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> > >>> >> > >>> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> > >>> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> > >>> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > >>> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > >>> > -- >> > >>> > Regards >> > >>> > >> > >>> > lof >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > China-pm mailing list >> > >>> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >>> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> China-pm mailing list >> > >>> China-pm at pm.org >> > >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> --------------------------- >> > >> Achilles Xu >> > >> http://www.formalin14.org >> > >> ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ >> > >> >> > >> ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º >> > >> >> > >> ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ >> > >> ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ >> > >> perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> >> > >> ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ >> > >> »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ >> > >> -- >> > >> Regards >> > >> >> > >> lof >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> --------------------------- >> > >> Achilles Xu >> > >> http://www.formalin14.org >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > >------------------------------ >> > > >> > >Message: 6 >> > >Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:38:29 +0800 >> > >From: Formalin Achilles >> > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > >To: china-pm at pm.org >> > >Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512042238t4b85ab56p at mail.gmail.com> >> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > > >> > >比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 >> > > >> > >2005/12/5, loader : >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> 说说看体会? >> > >> >> > >> Formalin Achilles wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 >> > >> > >> > >> > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> > >> >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> > >> >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > >> >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > >> >> > -- >> > >> >> > Regards >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > lof >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > --------------------------- >> > >> > Achilles Xu >> > >> > http://www.formalin14.org >> > >> > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ >> > >> > >> > >> > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee дµÀ£º >> > >> > >> > >> > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ >> > >> > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ >> > >> > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ >> > >> > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > >> > >> > lof >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > --------------------------- >> > >> > Achilles Xu >> > >> > http://www.formalin14.org >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> China-pm mailing list >> > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >--------------------------- >> > >Achilles Xu >> > >http://www.formalin14.org >> > >-------------- next part -------------- >> > >q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m9w> > > >> > >------------------------------ >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >China-pm mailing list >> > >China-pm at pm.org >> > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 2 >> > >************************************** >> > >> > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> > >> > >> > 致 >> > 礼! >> > >> > >> > 明明 >> > ttii at linuxaid.com.cn >> > 2005-12-06 >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > Message: 2 >> > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:48:48 +0800 >> > From: Formalin Achilles >> > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > To: china-pm at pm.org >> > Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512051748g64335c3dl at mail.gmail.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> > >> > 我只对编程狂热,而不是单对perl狂热。多路复用是windows的先天缺憾,即便实现了,其效率也会受影响,另外部署起来也要附加很多东西。所以如果有人实现了,我还可以拿来用用,如果没有,那就还是按windows的编程模型走吧。毕竟对api的选择,还是越直接和系统调用打交道越好。看看awt和swing的效率比较就知道了。 >> > >> > 2005/12/6, lix : >> > > >> > > 说的虽然有道理,但是不切合实际。毕竟大部分人是使用者,尤其在国内。大家更加注重的是方便的使用。 >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > *From:* Anders Lee >> > > *To:* china-pm at pm.org >> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2005 3:40 AM >> > > *Subject:* Re: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? >> > > >> > > >> > > 当一个人真正为perl狂热的时候,他可能就会自己去实现select函数, >> > > 而不是等待别人的恩赐。 >> > > 那个时候也往往是他逐步提高的时期。 >> > > >> > > >> > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: >> > > > >> > > > 比如java1.4在windows上实现了posix的select函数,而perl没有,很多程序我就选择用java而不是perl来写了。 >> > > > >> > > > 2005/12/5, loader : >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > 说说看体会? >> > > > > >> > > > > Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > 不浮躁太难了,个人深有体会。 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 在05-12-5,Anders Lee 写道: >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> 不知道,我也是最近才订阅的。 >> > > > > >> 中国的程序员少有沉下心来,什么热追什么。 >> > > > > >> perl在中国比较冷清,大概跟中国的整体浮躁有关罢。 >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > 怎么没有邮件呢? >> > > > > >> > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? >> > > > > >> > -- >> > > > > >> > Regards >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > lof >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > >> > China-pm mailing list >> > > > > >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > > > > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > > >> China-pm mailing list >> > > > > >> China-pm at pm.org >> > > > > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > --------------------------- >> > > > > > Achilles Xu >> > > > > > http://www.formalin14.org >> > > > > > ²»¸¡ÔêÌ«ÄÑÁË£¬¸öÈËÉîÓÐÌå»á¡£ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ÔÚ05-12-5£¬Anders Lee < anderslee2003 at gmail.com> дµÀ£º >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ²»ÖªµÀ£¬ÎÒÒ²ÊÇ×î½ü²Å¶(c)Ôĵġ£ >> > > > > > ÖйúµÄ³ÌÐòÔ±ÉÙÓгÁÏÂÐÄÀ´£¬Ê²Ã´ÈÈ׷ʲô¡£ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > perlÔÚÖйú±È½ÏÀäÇ壬´ó¸Å¸úÖйúµÄÕûÌ帡ÔêÓйذա£ >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On 12/4/05, lof wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ÔõôûÓÐÓʼþÄØ£¿ >> > > > > > »¹ÊǶ(c)ÔĵÄÈ˱ȽÏÉÙÄØ£¿ >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > Regards >> > > > > > >> > > > > > lof >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > China-pm mailing list >> > > > > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > China-pm mailing list >> > > > > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -- >> > > > > > --------------------------- >> > > > > > Achilles Xu >> > > > > > http://www.formalin14.org >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > > China-pm mailing list >> > > > > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > China-pm mailing list >> > > > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > --------------------------- >> > > > Achilles Xu >> > > > http://www.formalin14.org >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > China-pm mailing list >> > > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------ >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > China-pm mailing list >> > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > China-pm mailing list >> > > China-pm at pm.org >> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --------------------------- >> > Achilles Xu >> > http://www.formalin14.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- >> > q�0����!���k,r��m�TD�m�������j+��b���j)r�j��j�Zr���?�M9�m:��:{M���!���٥ >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > China-pm mailing list >> > China-pm at pm.org >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >> > End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 >> > ************************************** >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 18:52:47 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:52:47 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512051852y108b1fabs@mail.gmail.com> awk和shell结合还是挺不错的,它特别适合用来处理命令行输出。 在05-12-6,Joe Jiang 写道: > > 没错,就是那个事件框架,最近开始支持 grid 的那个,在很多语言中都有了集成。而 perl 目前还是以 POE 为最强。 POE 与 select > 的比较好像 perl 与 awk 的比较。 > > 顺便说一下 ruby 的 druby 还是很有特色的,早就可以用来做 grid 了。啥时候有了 dperl 就太酷了。 > > 在05-12-6,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > > > > > 在05-12-6,Joe Jiang 写道: > > > > > > use POE to solve the select problem. > > > 其实早就有比 select 更好的实现方式了,在 wiki 上面关于 POE 的文章也有 2/3 篇了。上次上海聚会也讲解了 POE > > > 而且还真有人听懂了。 > > > > > > 在05-12-5,salad jonk 写道: > > > > > > > > I am using it,But now I am putting all my heart on the entrance > > > > examination > > > > > > > > On 12/4/05, fayland wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yes. welcome > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > ------------- > > > > > /Fayland Lam/ < http://www.fayland.org/> > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "lof" > > > > > To: "perl-cn" < china-pm at pm.org> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:42 PM > > > > > Subject: [PerlChina] 这个邮件列表在使用吗? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 怎么没有邮件呢? > > > > > > 还是订阅的人比较少呢? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > lof > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > I am young,so my heart is full of dream > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?:????!??M5?? From shijialee at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 20:29:34 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:29:34 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <001d01c5fa09$e9491e20$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <6012f7ba0512051757x72556312m@mail.gmail.com> <001d01c5fa09$e9491e20$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512052029g5703d3f0rc0ddb3d41a27af6f@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/05, fayland wrote: > 编码设置为 utf8 就可以了吧。如果还不行就 gb2312 > 不过 Qiang 发来的怎么也是乱码,其他都正常的。:) 我改用 gmail 后还是乱码么?记得可以了啊。 > Best Regards > ------------- > /Fayland Lam/ > Qiang From shijialee at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 20:31:14 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:31:14 -0500 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 Qiang From anderslee2003 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 02:32:03 2005 From: anderslee2003 at gmail.com (Anders Lee) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 19:32:03 +0900 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> 一天没看没mail,真想不到竟有这么多回信。 很高兴和你们交流。 和传统的编程对比,未来的API建立在更高的层次,面向虚拟机,毕竟操作系统越来越边缘化.perl的虚拟机已经出来了, 可是perl却依然缺席,姑且看作后积薄发吧,期待。 On 12/6/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 > > Qiang > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?:??=?????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 17:39:15 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:39:15 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> 恩,希望大家能在这里多多交流技术。如果需要整理faq的人手,我愿意报名。 在05-12-6,Anders Lee 写道: > > 一天没看没mail,真想不到竟有这么多回信。 > 很高兴和你们交流。 > > 和传统的编程对比,未来的API建立在更高的层次,面向虚拟机,毕竟操作系统越来越边缘化.perl的虚拟机已经出来了,可是perl却依然缺席,姑且看作后积薄发吧,期待。 > > > > On 12/6/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > > > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > > > windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 > > > > Qiang > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?;????!??? From anderslee2003 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 19:34:28 2005 From: anderslee2003 at gmail.com (Anders Lee) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 12:34:28 +0900 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4001da2f0512061934x5139f04bpdd499e9a1144f4cc@mail.gmail.com> 也算我一个 On 12/7/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > 恩,希望大家能在这里多多交流技术。如果需要整理faq的人手,我愿意报名。 > > 在05-12-6,Anders Lee 写道: > > > > 一天没看没mail,真想不到竟有这么多回信。 > > 很高兴和你们交流。 > > > > 和传统的编程对比,未来的API建立在更高的层次,面向虚拟机,毕竟操作系统越来越边缘化.perl的虚拟机已经出来了,可是perl却依然缺席,姑且看作后积薄发吧,期待。 > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > > > > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > > > > > windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 > > > > > > Qiang > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?;?k?!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 23:00:42 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:00:42 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 反正一年也快要过去了,大家不妨多多在这里总结一下今年的收获,为明年的打算做个宣告。 岁末既然不适合去做太劳累的工作,就多多彼此借鉴好了 :) 我个人很高兴认识这么多朋友也提高了英文水平,还从 fayland 那里学到很多。本来很枯燥的工作因为有了大家变得很有意思了,空闲的时间也因为学习 perl 变得少得可怜。从 perl 的角度出发还看到了很多其他的自由软件的社区的发展,对我来讲是从来没有的宽广视野。但是同时也得有个很好的行进计划,否则太容易迷失了。 我个人明年的三个计划是: 从 mod_perl 入手开始了解 catalyst 的基本功能,MVC 实在是方法而不是技术了,值得投入。 学习 perl OO,完成一篇和其他语言的 OO 的对比文章,对我这个不怎么适应面向对象的人来说很有挑战性。 了解更多设计模式和关系管理方面的知识,开发一个好的学员管理系统。 一个小小的愿望,退修 haskell,参加 perl6 的开发 :) 在05-12-7,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > 恩,希望大家能在这里多多交流技术。如果需要整理faq的人手,我愿意报名。 > > 在05-12-6,Anders Lee 写道: > > > > 一天没看没mail,真想不到竟有这么多回信。 > > 很高兴和你们交流。 > > > > 和传统的编程对比,未来的API建立在更高的层次,面向虚拟机,毕竟操作系统越来越边缘化.perl的虚拟机已经出来了,可是perl却依然缺席,姑且看作后积薄发吧,期待。 > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > > > > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > > > > > windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 > > > > > > Qiang > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?;?????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Tue Dec 6 23:50:56 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:50:56 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXiuPbTyrz+wdCx7dTayrnTw8Lwo78=?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512062350r6fcb1371q@mail.gmail.com> $某某公司->{开发部门}->{小王}->{家庭住址}->{街道} = '四方街'; 一个树型的数据结构,在perl里不过是个嵌套hash。而在oo里,却需要定义公司、部门、员工、地址这样四个类来表示。 oo对perl到底有什么意义呢?oo的目标是什么?更面向业务?更符合人们的自然习惯?perl是从自然语言来的,别忘了larry wall的出身,别忘了perl语法里那些后置的if和until。 perl没有多态,perl函数的参数从来就是不定的。 把数据从数据库里提出来放到perl的hash里需要几行代码?把数据从数据库里提出来填充oo对象实例需要几行代码? mvc框架对于perl和php又有什么意义?难道用mason或template还不够代码分离?还不够易用? 总结过几天再写。 在05-12-7,Joe Jiang 写道: > > 反正一年也快要过去了,大家不妨多多在这里总结一下今年的收获,为明年的打算做个宣告。 > > 岁末既然不适合去做太劳累的工作,就多多彼此借鉴好了 :) > > 我个人很高兴认识这么多朋友也提高了英文水平,还从 fayland 那里学到很多。本来很枯燥的工作因为有了大家变得很有意思了,空闲的时间也因为学习 > perl 变得少得可怜。从 perl > 的角度出发还看到了很多其他的自由软件的社区的发展,对我来讲是从来没有的宽广视野。但是同时也得有个很好的行进计划,否则太容易迷失了。 > > 我个人明年的三个计划是: > 从 mod_perl 入手开始了解 catalyst 的基本功能,MVC 实在是方法而不是技术了,值得投入。 > 学习 perl OO,完成一篇和其他语言的 OO 的对比文章,对我这个不怎么适应面向对象的人来说很有挑战性。 > 了解更多设计模式和关系管理方面的知识,开发一个好的学员管理系统。 > > 一个小小的愿望,退修 haskell,参加 perl6 的开发 :) > > 在05-12-7,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > > > 恩,希望大家能在这里多多交流技术。如果需要整理faq的人手,我愿意报名。 > > > > 在05-12-6,Anders Lee 写道: > > > > > > 一天没看没mail,真想不到竟有这么多回信。 > > > 很高兴和你们交流。 > > > > > > 和传统的编程对比,未来的API建立在更高的层次,面向虚拟机, 毕竟操作系统越来越边缘化.perl的虚拟机已经出来了,可是perl却依然缺席,姑且看作后积薄发吧,期待。 > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/6/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > > > > > > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高层一些。 > > > > > 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > > > > > > > windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 > > > > > > > > Qiang > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > China-pm mailing list > > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?;???i??!??M5?? From huaz at nanjing-fnst.com Wed Dec 7 00:08:46 2005 From: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com (Hua Zhen) Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:08:46 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512062350r6fcb1371q@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512042142.48157.flyli3415@gmail.com> <001701c5f8e2$bfdce7b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4a6c0ba80512051753s71987531y@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512052031o72a2228es7e73bb0f5e18304a@mail.gmail.com> <4001da2f0512060232u51b0d5e4lc3ae7d4eb6a13780@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512061739h5aa0164ej@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512062350r6fcb1371q@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4396988E.8090603@nanjing-fnst.com> perlchina主页上有篇采访Larry wall的稿子: http://www.perlchina.org/archive/archive.php?action=archive&page=18 很喜欢里面的一段话,当Larry wall被问到“Perl 到底是在哪些方面优于其它的脚 本语言的”时,他说Perl是后现代的计算机语言: “对于脚本语言来讲,Perl 是独特的,而且在所有的计算机语言中,Perl 也是非 常独特的。它是唯一的一个有意识的并且明确的被设计为后现代化的计算机语言。 而其它的语言都还不同程度的坚持着他们的现代化特性。事情虽然是这样,我却很 少使用后现代化来描述 Perl ,因为很多人并不能真正理解后现代主义,虽然他们 已经处于后现代化之中。事实是,美国文化已经完全进入后现代化了,不仅是音乐 和文学,还包括时尚,建筑以及所有的与文化沾边的领域。 现代化是基于某种傲慢之上的,把创意置于一切之上的文化的有色眼镜,它的设计 者认为他们认为很好的东西,全世界都应该喜欢。即是说,如果某件事值得做,那 就应该把所有其它可能的途径都推到一边而仅留它一个。看看在 Lisp 中对圆括号 的使用,以及 Python 语法中对空格的使用吧。还有对象的强制应用,这包括很多 语言,其中就有 Java。所有这些都是“自说自话的”限制了用户的自由。它们其实 就是阻碍自由思想的翻版。1970年代的时尚警察已经离我们远去了,但是很多程序 员依然是网络警察的奴隶。 恰恰相反,后现代主义允许人们对任何艺术品从个人的或是不同文化的背景给出诠 释。无论怎么说都是你自己的事情。Perl 的口号即来源于此,那就是:“条条大路 通罗马”。Perl 之所以在你做任何事时都给你许多不同的可以使用的方法的原因 是:我确信程序员们都希望自己是具有创造性的,他们可以有很多不同的理由想要 写出他们自己的特别的代码。你想要做什么是你自己的事情,不是我应该考虑的。 我要做的就是给你涂料任你绘制自己的图画。” Formalin Achilles wrote: > $某某公司->{开发部门}->{小王}->{家庭住址}->{街道} = '四方街'; > 一个树型的数据结构,在perl里不过是个嵌套hash。而在oo里,却需要定义公 > 司、部门、员工、地址这样四个类来表示。 > oo对perl到底有什么意义呢?oo的目标是什么?更面向业务?更符合人们的自然 > 习惯?perl是从自然语言来的,别忘了larry wall的出身,别忘了perl语法里那 > 些后置的if和until。 > perl没有多态,perl函数的参数从来就是不定的。 > 把数据从数据库里提出来放到perl的hash里需要几行代码?把数据从数据库里提 > 出来填充oo对象实例需要几行代码? > mvc框架对于perl和php又有什么意义?难道用mason或template还不够代码分 > 离?还不够易用? > 总结过几天再写。 > > 在05-12-7,*Joe Jiang* > 写道: > > 反正一年也快要过去了,大家不妨多多在这里总结一下今年的收获,为明年 > 的打算做个宣告。 > > 岁末既然不适合去做太劳累的工作,就多多彼此借鉴好了 :) > > 我个人很高兴认识这么多朋友也提高了英文水平,还从 fayland 那里学到 > 很多。本来很枯燥的工作因为有了大家变得很有意思了,空闲的时间也因为 > 学习 perl 变得少得可怜。从 perl 的角度出发还看到了很多其他的自由软 > 件的社区的发展,对我来讲是从来没有的宽广视野。但是同时也得有个很好 > 的行进计划,否则太容易迷失了。 > > 我个人明年的三个计划是: > 从 mod_perl 入手开始了解 catalyst 的基本功能,MVC 实在是方法而不是 > 技术了,值得投入。 > 学习 perl OO,完成一篇和其他语言的 OO 的对比文章,对我这个不怎么适 > 应面向对象的人来说很有挑战性。 > 了解更多设计模式和关系管理方面的知识,开发一个好的学员管理系统。 > > 一个小小的愿望,退修 haskell,参加 perl6 的开发 :) > > 在05-12-7,*Formalin Achilles* > 写道: > > 恩,希望大家能在这里多多交流技术。如果需要整理faq的人手,我愿 > 意报名。 > > 在05-12-6,*Anders Lee* > 写道: > > 一天没看没mail,真想不到竟有这么多回信。 > 很高兴和你们交流。 > > 和传统的编程对比,未来的API建立在更高的层次,面向虚拟机, > 毕竟操作系统越来越边缘化.perl的虚拟机已经出来了,可是perl > 却依然缺席,姑且看作后积薄发吧,期待。 > > > > On 12/6/05, *Qiang (James) Li* > wrote: > > On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com > > wrote: >> 我想POE应该是类似C++的ACE库的东东,不过感觉比ACE要高 > 层一些。 >> 早期看POE的时候,在windows上也是有诸多问题的,不知道 > 现在怎么样了,去看看。 > > windows 下的 POE 我很久以前就试过。运行正常。 > > Qiang > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >China-pm mailing list >China-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- Best Regards -------------------------------------------------- Hua Zhen Dept. of Technology and Development Nanjing Fujitsu Nanda Software Tech. 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Re: =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= (Hua Zhen) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:08:46 +0800 >From: Hua Zhen >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= >To: china-pm at pm.org >Message-ID: <4396988E.8090603 at nanjing-fnst.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 > >perlchina��ҳ����ƪ�ɷ�Larry wall�ĸ��ӣ� >http://www.perlchina.org/archive/archive.php?action=archive&page=18 > >��ϲ��������һ�λ���Larry wall���ʵ�Perl ����������Щ�������������Ľ� >�����Եġ�ʱ��˵Perl�Ǻ��ִ��ļ��������ԣ� > >���ڽű���������Perl �Ƕ��صģ��������еļ����������У�Perl Ҳ�Ƿ� >���صġ�����Ψһ��һ������ʶ�IJ�����ȷ�ı�����Ϊ���ִ��ļ��������ԡ� >�����������Զ�����ͬ�̶ȵļ��������ǵ��ִ������ԡ�������Ȼ��������ȴ�?��ʹ�ú��ִ��������� Perl ��Ϊ�ܶ��˲��������������ִ����壬��Ȼ���� >�Ѿ��ں��ִ���֮�С���ʵ�ǣ������Ļ��Ѿ���ȫ�������ִ����ˣ��������� >����ѧ������ʱ�У����Լ����е����Ļ�մ�ߵ�����? >�ִ����ǻ���ij�ְ���֮�ϵģѴ�������һ��֮�ϵ��Ļ���ɫ�۾��������?����Ϊ������Ϊ�ܺõĶ���ȫ���綼Ӧ��ϲ������˵����ij����ֵ������ >��Ӧ�ð������������ܵ�;�����Ƶ�һ�߶�������һ�������?Lisp �ж�Բ�?��ʹ�ã��Լ� Python �﷨�жԿո���ʹ�ðɡ��ж�����ǿ��Ӧ�ã������ܶ� >���ԣ����о��� Java������Щ���ǡ���˵�Ի��ġ��������û����ɡ�������ʵ >�����谭����˼���ķ?970������ʱ�о��Ѿ�������Զȥ�ˣ��Ǻܶ����� >Ա��Ȼ�����羯����ū�? >ǡǡ�෴���ִ������������Ƕ��κ�����Ʒ�Ӹ��˵Ļ��Dz�ͬ�Ļı�������ڹ >�͡�������ô˵�������Լ������顣Perl �Ŀںż���Դ�ڴˣ��Ǿ��ǣ�������?ͨ���Perl ֮�����������κ���ʱ���������಻ͬ�Ŀ���ʹ�õķ���ԭ�?�ǣ���ȷ�ų���Ա�Ƕ�ϣ���Լ��Ǿ��д����Եģ����ǿ����кܶ಻ͬ��������Ҫ >д�������Լ����ر��Ĵ��롣����Ҫ��ʲô�����Լ������飬������Ӧ�ÿ��ǵġ� >��Ҫ���ľ��Ǹ���Ϳ�����������Լ���ͼ�� > > > > >Formalin Achilles wrote: > >> $ijij��˾->{����}->{С��}->{��ͥסַ}->{�ֵ�} = '�ķ���'; >> һ�����͵����ݽṹ��perl�ﲻ���Ǹ�Ƕ��hash����oo�ȴ��Ҫ���幫 >> ˾���š�Ա��ַ�����ĸ�������ʾ >> oo��perl������ʲô�����أ�oo��Ŀ����ʲô������ҵ�񣿸��������ǵ���?> ϰ�ߣ�perl�Ǵ���Ȼ�������ģ�����larry wall�ij��������perl�﷨���� >> Щ���õ�if��until?> perlû�ж�̬perl�����IJ����������Dz��ġ?> �����ݴ����ݿ����������ŵ�perl��hash����Ҫ���д��룿�����ݴ����ݿ����� >> ��������oo����ʵ����Ҫ���д��룿 >> mvc���ܶ���perl��php����ʲô���壿�ѵ���mason��template������������ >> �룿���������ã� >> �ܽ���������д?> >> ��05-12-7?Joe Jiang* > > д��?> >> ����һ��Ҳ��Ҫ��ȥ�ˣ��Ҳ��������������ܽ�һ�½������ջ�Ϊ���� >> �Ĵ����������档 >> >> ��ĩ��Ȼ���ʺ�ȥ��̫���۵Ĺ����Ͷ����˴˽������?:) >> >> �Ҹ��˺ܸ�����ʶ��ô������Ҳ������Ӣ��ˮƽ���?fayland ����ѧ�� >> �ܶࡣ�����ܿ����Ĺ�����Ϊ���˴��ұ��ú�����˼�ˣ��е�ʱ��Ҳ��?> ѧϰ perl �����ٵÿ��� perl �ĽǶȳ��������˺ܶ������������?> ���������ķ�չ���������Ǵ���û�еĿ�����Ұ����ͬʱҲ���и��ܺ� >> ���н��ƻ���̫������ʧ�ˡ� >> >> �Ҹ��������������ƻ��ǣ� >> �� mod_perl ���ֿ�ʼ�˽� catalyst �Ļ������ܣ�MVC ʵ���Ƿ������?> �����ˣ�ֵ��Ͷ�롣 >> ѧϰ perl OO����һƪ���������Ե?OO �ĶԱ����£�����������ô�?> Ӧ��������������˵������ս�ԡ� >> �˽���������ģʽ�͹�ϵ�������֪ʶ��һ���õ�ѧԱ����ϵͳ?> >> һ��СС��Ը�����?haskell�μ?perl6 �Ŀ?:) >> >> ��05-12-7?Formalin Achilles* > > д��?> >> ��ϣ�����������������ཻ������������Ҫ����faq�����֣���Ը >> �ⱨ��?> >> ��05-12-6?Anders Lee* > > д��?> >> һ��û��ûmail���벻��������ô�����š?> �ܸ��˺����ǽ���?> >> �ʹ�ͳ�ı��̶Աȣ�δ����API�����ڸ��ߵIJ��Σ�����������, >> �Ͼ�����ϵͳԽ��Խ��Ե��.perl���������Ѿ����ˣ���perl >> ȴ��Ȼȱϯ���ҿ��������ɣ��ڴ� >> >> >> >> On 12/6/05, *Qiang (James) Li* > > wrote: >> >> On 12/5/05, Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com >> > wrote: >>> ����POEӦ��������C++��ACE���Ķ����о���ACEҪ�� >> ��һЩ?>> ���ڿ�POE��ʱ����windows��Ҳ�������������ģ�֪�?> ������ô���ˣ�ȥ����?> >> windows �µ� POE �Һܾ���ǰ���Թ��������� >> >> Qiang >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------- >> Achilles Xu >> http://www.formalin14.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> >> -- >> God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail >> >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------- >> Achilles Xu >> http://www.formalin14.org >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>China-pm mailing list >>China-pm at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >> > >-- > >Best Regards >-------------------------------------------------- >Hua Zhen >Dept. of Technology and Development >Nanjing Fujitsu Nanda Software Tech. Co., Ltd.(FNST) >No.189, Guangzhou Rd.,Nanjing, P.R.China >Civil Defense Building 8F >PostCode: 210029 >PHONE: +86+25-86630523-832 >FUJITSU INTERNAL: 79955-832 >FAX: +86+25-83317685 >Mail: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com >-------------------------------------------------- > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >China-pm mailing list >China-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 >*************************************** = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ttii at linuxaid.com.cn 2005-12-08 From ywomol at gmail.com Wed Dec 7 20:13:58 2005 From: ywomol at gmail.com (YW) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:13:58 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_10 In-Reply-To: <20051208010856.AE99F5262A@smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> References: <20051208010856.AE99F5262A@smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> Message-ID: use utf8 or just English On 12/8/05, wrote: > > china-pm-request,ã > > Σȫ룬ô° > ޷ > > ======= 2005-12-08 04:00:13 д======= > > >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > > china-pm at pm.org > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > china-pm-request at pm.org > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= (Hua Zhen) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:08:46 +0800 > >From: Hua Zhen > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= > >To: china-pm at pm.org > >Message-ID: <4396988E.8090603 at nanjing-fnst.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 > > > >perlchina��ҳ����ƪ�ɷ�Larry wall�ĸ��ӣ� > >http://www.perlchina.org/archive/archive.php?action=archive&page=18 > > > >��ϲ��������һ�λ���Larry wall���ʵ�Perl > ����������Щ�������������Ľ� > >�����Եġ�ʱ��˵Perl�Ǻ��ִ��ļ��������ԣ� > > > >���ڽű���������Perl �Ƕ��صģ��������еļ����������У�Perl > Ҳ�Ƿ� > > >���صġ�����Ψһ��һ������ʶ�IJ�����ȷ�ı�����Ϊ���ִ��ļ��������ԡ� > >�����������Զ�����ͬ�̶ȵļ��������ǵ��ִ������ԡ�������Ȼ��������ȴ�?��ʹ�ú��ִ��������� > Perl ��Ϊ�ܶ��˲��������������ִ����壬��Ȼ���� > > >�Ѿ��ں��ִ���֮�С���ʵ�ǣ������Ļ��Ѿ���ȫ�������ִ����ˣ��������� > >����ѧ������ʱ�У����Լ����е����Ļ�մ�ߵ�����? 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Co., Ltd.(FNST) > >No.189, Guangzhou Rd.,Nanjing, P.R.China > >Civil Defense Building 8F > >PostCode: 210029 > >PHONE: +86+25-86630523-832 > >FUJITSU INTERNAL: 79955-832 > >FAX: +86+25-83317685 > >Mail: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com > >-------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >China-pm mailing list > >China-pm at pm.org > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 > >*************************************** > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > > > ttii at linuxaid.com.cn > 2005-12-08 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9? References: <20051208010856.AE99F5262A@smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> Message-ID: <4001da2f0512080021o6039cc20pb53b148a186406b7@mail.gmail.com> ʹgmail On 12/8/05, YW wrote: > > use utf8 > or just English > > > On 12/8/05, wrote: > > > china-pm-request,ã > > > > Σȫ룬ô° > > ޷ > > > > ======= 2005-12-08 04:00:13 д======= > > > > >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > > > china-pm at pm.org > > > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > china-pm-request at pm.org > > > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= (Hua Zhen) > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >Message: 1 > > >Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:08:46 +0800 > > >From: Hua Zhen > > >Subject: Re: [PerlChina] =?GB2312?B?1eK49tPKvP7B0LHt1NrKudPDwvCjvw==?= > > >To: china-pm at pm.org > > >Message-ID: <4396988E.8090603 at nanjing-fnst.com> > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 > > > > > >perlchina��ҳ����ƪ�ɷ�Larry wall�ĸ��ӣ� > > >http://www.perlchina.org/archive/archive.php?action=archive&page=18 > > > > > >��ϲ��������һ�λ���Larry wall���ʵ�Perl > > ����������Щ�������������Ľ� > > >�����Եġ�ʱ��˵Perl�Ǻ��ִ��ļ��������ԣ� > > > > > >���ڽű���������Perl > > �Ƕ��صģ��������еļ����������У�Perl Ҳ�Ƿ� > > > > >���صġ�����Ψһ��һ������ʶ�IJ�����ȷ�ı�����Ϊ���ִ��ļ��������ԡ� > > >�����������Զ�����ͬ�̶ȵļ��������ǵ��ִ������ԡ�������Ȼ��������ȴ�?��ʹ�ú��ִ��������� > > Perl ��Ϊ�ܶ��˲��������������ִ����壬��Ȼ���� > > > > >�Ѿ��ں��ִ���֮�С���ʵ�ǣ������Ļ��Ѿ���ȫ�������ִ����ˣ��������� > > >����ѧ������ʱ�У����Լ����е����Ļ�մ�ߵ�����? 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Co., Ltd.(FNST) > > >No.189, Guangzhou Rd.,Nanjing, P.R.China > > >Civil Defense Building 8F > > >PostCode: 210029 > > >PHONE: +86+25-86630523-832 > > >FUJITSU INTERNAL: 79955-832 > > >FAX: +86+25-83317685 > > >Mail: huaz at nanjing-fnst.com > > >-------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >China-pm mailing list > > >China-pm at pm.org > > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > >End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 10 > > >*************************************** > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ttii at linuxaid.com.cn > > 2005-12-08 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9? 大家回复给邮件组时请注意 - 不要把以前的回复都包括在你的email 里。太长,不易阅读和归档。 谢谢 Qiang From flyli3415 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 06:07:21 2005 From: flyli3415 at gmail.com (lof) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 22:07:21 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?6K+35aSn5a625o6o6I2Q5LiA5pys5Lmm5ZCn?= Message-ID: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> 刚刚过了初学的阶段,就是刚刚学完了基本的语法,然后可以看什么书呢? 该看看应用呢?还是继续研究一下语法技巧呢? 请大家推荐一本合适的吧,谢谢! -- Regards lof From tting.wang at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 07:13:23 2005 From: tting.wang at gmail.com (ting wang) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:13:23 +0100 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> Message-ID: 可以多看看程序,自己也多写一些, 有问题可以查看cookbook,或是在这里提问。 Perl是要经常用的。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9? 应该是很久前翻译的了。放在 bbs 上的,但没有说谁翻译的,我看语气像是 hoowa . 我没有跟踪 perl 6 的文章, 咱们 wiki 上有这篇么? http://perlchina.sun126.com/noncgi/usr/affix/050414113824__7_perl.html Qiang From joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 17:17:46 2005 From: joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:17:46 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdINXixqrOxNXCy623rdLrtcSjvw==?= In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512080714l61e1c302tbd35904354d533a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ab5ddef0512080714l61e1c302tbd35904354d533a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 印象中没有放在 wiki 上面,而是直接以 HTML 格式发布了。文章来源是 IBM developworks 的 cultured perl 系列。 当时 wiki 还没很多文章,hoowa 也不习惯用它的排版功能。今天重新看到这个文章还是很开心的 :) On 12/8/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > 应该是很久前翻译的了。放在 bbs 上的,但没有说谁翻译的,我看语气像是 hoowa . 我没有跟踪 perl 6 的文章, 咱们 wiki > 上有这篇么? > > http://perlchina.sun126.com/noncgi/usr/affix/050414113824__7_perl.html > > Qiang > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 17:57:22 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:57:22 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> 恩,多看多用,要学会查看perl文档。 在05-12-8,ting wang 写道: > > 可以多看看程序,自己也多写一些, 有问题可以查看cookbook,或是在这里提问。 > Perl是要经常用的。 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?~??!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:02:33 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:02:33 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> HI, 楼上的,能不能详细的介绍一下,如何在UNIX/Linux下查看Perl的文档? Perldoc的使用技巧是否能够指点一下? 谢谢。 在05-12-9,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > 恩,多看多用,要学会查看perl文档。 > > 在05-12-8,ting wang 写道: > > > > 可以多看看程序,自己也多写一些, 有问题可以查看cookbook,或是在这里提问。 > > Perl是要经常用的。 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=??}?????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:06:21 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:06:21 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> perldoc --help 在05-12-9,黄叶 写道: > > HI, > 楼上的,能不能详细的介绍一下,如何在UNIX/Linux下查看Perl的文档? > Perldoc的使用技巧是否能够指点一下? > > 谢谢。 > > > 在05-12-9,Formalin Achilles < formalin14 at gmail.com> 写道: > > > > 恩,多看多用,要学会查看perl文档。 > > > > 在05-12-8,ting wang 写道: > > > > > > 可以多看看程序,自己也多写一些, 有问题可以查看cookbook,或是在这里提问。 > > > Perl是要经常用的。 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?N??!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:09:00 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:09:00 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> 呵呵。 Perldoc --help谁都会看阿。 我想请教的是使用技巧阿。 能告诉后来的人一下,在看文档的时候也好有个比较和确认。 这样大家是不是进步的要快一些? -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?????!??? From joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:19:15 2005 From: joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:19:15 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: perldoc perltoc 可能很多人不怎么用,这是一个大的 index,配合 grep 和其他的搜索方式使用能够解决很多问题。 网上的 google perl 也是更加灵活的 perldoc,但是同时也更加慢,使用的时候需要配合英文字典。 另外如果在所有的 google 关键字以外加上一个 是 作为补充,就能很好的发现中文资料。 On 12/9/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > 呵呵。 > Perldoc --help谁都会看阿。 > 我想请教的是使用技巧阿。 > 能告诉后来的人一下,在看文档的时候也好有个比较和确认。 > > 这样大家是不是进步的要快一些? > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=???|{?!??M5?? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:24:09 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:24:09 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512081824t1efcd842x@mail.gmail.com> 呵呵,注意第二个是perltoc不是perldoc哦。其中白色高亮的就是pagename或modulename,可以用perldoc查看。 在05-12-9,Joe Jiang 写道: > > perldoc perltoc 可能很多人不怎么用,这是一个大的 index,配合 grep 和其他的搜索方式使用能够解决很多问题。 > > 网上的 google perl 也是更加灵活的 perldoc,但是同时也更加慢,使用的时候需要配合英文字典。 > > 另外如果在所有的 google 关键字以外加上一个 是 作为补充,就能很好的发现中文资料。 > > On 12/9/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > > 呵呵。 > > Perldoc --help谁都会看阿。 > > 我想请教的是使用技巧阿。 > > 能告诉后来的人一下,在看文档的时候也好有个比较和确认。 > > > > 这样大家是不是进步的要快一些? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:28:59 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:28:59 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512081824t1efcd842x@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081824t1efcd842x@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512081828l31183490i@mail.gmail.com> perldoc用的是less内核。进入后用h可以查看帮助,重点看里面searching一节。用/来查找,用n来find next,用N来find last。 在05-12-9,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > 呵呵,注意第二个是perltoc不是perldoc哦。其中白色高亮的就是pagename或modulename,可以用perldoc查看。 > > 在05-12-9,Joe Jiang 写道: > > > > perldoc perltoc 可能很多人不怎么用,这是一个大的 index,配合 grep 和其他的搜索方式使用能够解决很多问题。 > > > > 网上的 google perl 也是更加灵活的 perldoc,但是同时也更加慢,使用的时候需要配合英文字典。 > > > > 另外如果在所有的 google 关键字以外加上一个 是 作为补充,就能很好的发现中文资料。 > > > > On 12/9/05, 黄叶 < hylinux at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 呵呵。 > > > Perldoc --help谁都会看阿。 > > > 我想请教的是使用技巧阿。 > > > 能告诉后来的人一下,在看文档的时候也好有个比较和确认。 > > > > > > 这样大家是不是进步的要快一些? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=??????!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:31:26 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:31:26 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512081828l31183490i@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081824t1efcd842x@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081828l31183490i@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512081831u91ee12do@mail.gmail.com> 谢谢各位。 有启发了。 我每次使用perldoc都是无所适从。 如果有人讲一下使用心得,哇,那真是造福我们这些Perl的菜鸟阿。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=???? References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081757s4cab2aa1j@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081802g3853526ei@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081806i7241dd85o@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081809o28b4921j@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081824t1efcd842x@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512081828l31183490i@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512081831u91ee12do@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512081834p3ecce06bi@mail.gmail.com> 好把这个整理到faq里。 在05-12-9,黄叶 写道: > > 谢谢各位。 > 有启发了。 > 我每次使用perldoc都是无所适从。 > 如果有人讲一下使用心得,哇,那真是造福我们这些Perl的菜鸟阿。 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?^ 在整理faq的时候,会把提问的人和回答的人名都写上,征求一下大家的意见,邮件地址要不要写?因为以后faq可能会放在网上,可能会被发垃圾邮件的人收集到。 -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?{?!??? From fayland at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 19:39:40 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:39:40 +0800 Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILnY09pmYXE=?= References: <4a6c0ba80512081848i21be281t@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008b01c5fc72$31741690$bd0d1dac@fayland> 可以用类似 fayland @ gmail . com 或 fayland at gmail dot com 之类的。这样方便看 faq 的人联系原来的人。 参考 member.perlchina.org 的样式可能比较好。 faq 要不要用 svn 维护?还是用 wiki? Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: Formalin Achilles To: china-pm at pm.org Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [PerlChina] 关于faq 在整理faq的时候,会把提问的人和回答的人名都写上,征求一下大家的意见,邮件地址要不要写?因为以后faq可能会放在网上,可能会被发垃圾邮件的人收集到。 -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?f??s?!??M5?? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 19:43:03 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:43:03 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILnY09pmYXE=?= In-Reply-To: <008b01c5fc72$31741690$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <4a6c0ba80512081848i21be281t@mail.gmail.com> <008b01c5fc72$31741690$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512081943o56b966d8x@mail.gmail.com> 那就照非四说的吧。 我想做成纯文本的,这样在pda上也能看。现在就用手工编辑,定期发到wiki上(每月?),也可以制作pdb版本。等以后多了再作个自动程序什么的。不过还是希望人来淘,这样精华一些。 在05-12-9,fayland 写道: > > 可以用类似 fayland @ gmail . com 或 fayland at gmail dot com 之类的。这样方便看 faq > 的人联系原来的人。 > 参考 member.perlchina.org 的样式可能比较好。 > faq 要不要用 svn 维护?还是用 wiki? > > Regards, > -- > Fayland Lam // > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Formalin Achilles > *To:* china-pm at pm.org > *Sent:* Friday, December 09, 2005 10:48 AM > *Subject:* [PerlChina] 关于faq > > > > 在整理faq的时候,会把提问的人和回答的人名都写上,征求一下大家的意见,邮件地址要不要写?因为以后faq可能会放在网上,可能会被发垃圾邮件的人收集到。 > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?{?!??? From shijialee at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 21:18:45 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:18:45 -0500 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512082118y7fb02b80qb253c1c983fc3d8a@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/05, lof wrote: > 刚刚过了初学的阶段,就是刚刚学完了基本的语法,然后可以看什么书呢? > 该看看应用呢?还是继续研究一下语法技巧呢? > 请大家推荐一本合适的吧,谢谢! 其他人的回答都很好。其实语言的学习主要靠练习和应用,这不只是针对计算机语言。 例如,如果你对 CGI 感兴趣,找 CGI 的书看,边看边练习所学到的知识。顺便要学的东西有很多, http 协议, 数据库 等。 一步步来。 Perl 的书推荐 O'Reilly 出版的。O'Reilly 的《CGI编程-使用Perl(第二版)》 英文版不错。但不知道中文版怎么样。 http://www.oreilly.com.cn/book.php?bn=7-5083-0197-8 > -- > Regards > > lof Qiang From shijialee at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 21:24:18 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:24:18 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?zOYgam9lINeqt6K1xCAtLSDW0M7EwtLC6w==?= Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512082124t53c00c9am5fc731600e6cee25@mail.gmail.com> joe 你的 email 回复不要把以前的 email 都 quote 进来。mailing list 有发 email 的限制(i think it is a good thing) 下面是 joe 发的内容。 ############## Each time you send a message, Gmail automatically selects an appropriate encoding for the language(s) in which you've composed your mail. It's possible, however, that the recipient may not be able to properly view the message you've sent. If your contacts are having trouble viewing messages you've sent them, we recommend using 'UTF-8' (Unicode) for all outgoing mail. UTF-8 is a standard encoding that's accepted by many email clients. 看来如果不全部使用 gmail 的话,所有的从 gmail 发送出去的邮件应该设定强行使用 utf8 比较好点。估计其他的 web mail 也有相应的设置问题。 On 12/8/05, Anders Lee wrote: 建议你使用gmail On 12/8/05, YW < ywomol at gmail.com> wrote: use utf8 or just English On 12/8/05, 明明 < ttii at linuxaid.com.cn> wrote: china-pm-request,您好! 我晕,全是乱码,这怎么回事啊!! 无法交流阿!!! From joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 21:31:06 2005 From: joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:31:06 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512082118y7fb02b80qb253c1c983fc3d8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512082118y7fb02b80qb253c1c983fc3d8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 可能是这本书而非那本《Perl语言入门(第二版)》链接应该如下: http://www.oreilly.com.cn/book.php?bn=7-5083-0624-4 时间允许的话建议再以 blog 形式每天写点读书笔记,方便大家彼此学习 :) On 12/9/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > On 12/8/05, lof wrote: > > 刚刚过了初学的阶段,就是刚刚学完了基本的语法,然后可以看什么书呢? > > 该看看应用呢?还是继续研究一下语法技巧呢? > > 请大家推荐一本合适的吧,谢谢! > > 其他人的回答都很好。其实语言的学习主要靠练习和应用,这不只是针对计算机语言。 > 例如,如果你对 CGI 感兴趣,找 CGI 的书看,边看边练习所学到的知识。顺便要学的东西有很多, http 协议, 数据库 等。 一步步来。 > > Perl 的书推荐 O'Reilly 出版的。O'Reilly 的《CGI编程-使用Perl(第二版)》 > 英文版不错。但不知道中文版怎么样。 http://www.oreilly.com.cn/book.php?bn=7-5083-0197-8 > > > -- > > Regards > > > > lof > > Qiang > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?~??!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 21:32:40 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 13:32:40 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrtPO80s3GvPbSu7G+yumwyQ==?= In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512082118y7fb02b80qb253c1c983fc3d8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200512082207.22610.flyli3415@gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512082118y7fb02b80qb253c1c983fc3d8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512082132k590f7457y@mail.gmail.com> 是啊,OReilly的书是最好的,我现在不光中文只看oreilly的书,连英文的也只看oreilly的书了。 还有就是官方文档,一般废话比较少,也很不错。rfc刚开始还不用看,但是迟早也是要看的。http协议的文档号是2068。 2005/12/9, Qiang (James) Li : > > On 12/8/05, lof wrote: > > 刚刚过了初学的阶段,就是刚刚学完了基本的语法,然后可以看什么书呢? > > 该看看应用呢?还是继续研究一下语法技巧呢? > > 请大家推荐一本合适的吧,谢谢! > > 其他人的回答都很好。其实语言的学习主要靠练习和应用,这不只是针对计算机语言。 > 例如,如果你对 CGI 感兴趣,找 CGI 的书看,边看边练习所学到的知识。顺便要学的东西有很多, http 协议, 数据库 等。 一步步来。 > > Perl 的书推荐 O'Reilly 出版的。O'Reilly 的《CGI编程-使用Perl(第二版)》 > 英文版不错。但不知道中文版怎么样。 http://www.oreilly.com.cn/book.php?bn=7-5083-0197-8 > > > -- > > Regards > > > > lof > > Qiang > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?=?????!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 23:27:14 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:27:14 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E6=9B=BF_joe_=E8=BD=AC=E5=8F=91?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9A=84_--_=E4=B8=AD=E6=96=87=E4=B9=B1=E7=A0=81?= In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512082124t53c00c9am5fc731600e6cee25@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ab5ddef0512082124t53c00c9am5fc731600e6cee25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: google 了一下发现 gmail 的 web 界面还没有办法设定这个选项,估计 qiang 用了 pop/smpt 客户端吧。如下讨论所示: http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Past-discussions/browse_thread/thread/9951aa1f60c10b2a/c0b623b656b2d665?q=reply+quote+without&rnum=18#c0b623b656b2d665 我决定去手动的去删除那些个 quoted 内容了 :) 当然也应该会去建议这个设定的开放。 -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m=۞4!M5٥ From mlists.j at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 21:26:14 2005 From: mlists.j at gmail.com (Jennifer Garner) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:26:14 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] is anyone here free to help write a CGI program? Message-ID: HI,Lists, I meet someone a girl who studying in England.She need to submit her schoolwork,which is a simple CGI shopcart program.She don't know how to finish it,because the Perl course is not her major.She ask the help from me,but I have no time to do that.Would anyone here who is free enough do it? Certainly, it's a paid work.You can negotiate about the price with her. If anyone is interested in it,you can give me messages as soon as possible.thanks. -- 兰花仙子 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?u?gx??!??? From fayland at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 23:09:22 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:09:22 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] is anyone here free to help write a CGI program? References: Message-ID: <006d01c5fe21$d1d1f160$bd0d1dac@fayland> it seems that I have already done that. and I sent the script to Wang Oct minutes ago. Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Garner To: china-pm at pm.org Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: [PerlChina] is anyone here free to help write a CGI program? HI,Lists, I meet someone a girl who studying in England.She need to submit her schoolwork,which is a simple CGI shopcart program.She don't know how to finish it,because the Perl course is not her major.She ask the help from me,but I have no time to do that.Would anyone here who is free enough do it? Certainly, it's a paid work.You can negotiate about the price with her. If anyone is interested in it,you can give me messages as soon as possible.thanks. -- 兰花仙子 _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From mlists.j at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 01:53:39 2005 From: mlists.j at gmail.com (Jennifer Garner) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:53:39 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] is anyone here free to help write a CGI program? In-Reply-To: <006d01c5fe21$d1d1f160$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <006d01c5fe21$d1d1f160$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: Just fine,it's that truly. On 12/11/05, fayland wrote: > > it seems that I have already done that. > and I sent the script to Wang Oct minutes ago. > > Regards, > -- > Fayland Lam // > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jennifer Garner > To: china-pm at pm.org > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:26 PM > Subject: [PerlChina] is anyone here free to help write a CGI program? > > > HI,Lists, > I meet someone a girl who studying in England.She need to submit her > schoolwork,which is a simple CGI shopcart program.She don't know how to > finish it,because the Perl course is not her major.She ask the help from > me,but I have no time to do that.Would anyone here who is free enough do > it? Certainly, it's a paid work.You can negotiate about the price with > her. > If anyone is interested in it,you can give me messages as soon as > possible.thanks. > > -- > 兰花仙子 > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?u???????!??? From joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 17:22:57 2005 From: joe.jiang.purl at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:22:57 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm_Digest,_Vol_8,_Issue_10 In-Reply-To: <4001da2f0512080021o6039cc20pb53b148a186406b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <20051208010856.AE99F5262A@smtp.linuxaid.com.cn> <4001da2f0512080021o6039cc20pb53b148a186406b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Each time you send a message, Gmail automatically selects an appropriate encoding for the language(s) in which you've composed your mail. It's possible, however, that the recipient may not be able to properly view the message you've sent. If your contacts are having trouble viewing messages you've sent them, we recommend using 'UTF-8' (Unicode) for all outgoing mail. UTF-8 is a standard encoding that's accepted by many email clients. ȫʹ gmail ĻеĴ gmail ͳȥʼӦ趨ǿʹ utf8 ȽϺõ㡣 web mail ҲӦ⡣ On 12/8/05, Anders Lee wrote: > > ʹgmail > > On 12/8/05, YW wrote: > > > use utf8 > > or just English > > > > > > On 12/8/05, < ttii at linuxaid.com.cn> wrote: > > > > > china-pm-request,ã > > > > > > Σȫ룬ô° > > > ޷ > > > > > > ======= 2005-12-08 04:00:13 д======= > > > > > > >Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > > > > china-pm at pm.org > > > > > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > china-pm-request at pm.org > > > > > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > > > > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > >than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > 1. 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From joejiang799 at gmail.com Sun Dec 11 23:34:44 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:34:44 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details In-Reply-To: <200512120722.jBC7MtAZ013040@mail.uasit.com> References: <200512120722.jBC7MtAZ013040@mail.uasit.com> Message-ID: 希望大家能够帮忙找到合适的媒体来推荐我们的社区报告发表到各大杂志 :) 进一步欢迎 comment :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Date: Dec 12, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details To: joejiang799 at gmail.com The original message was received at Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:54 +0800 from zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: Can't create output) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- procmail: Quota exceeded while writing ".mbox" procmail: Quota exceeded while writing "/uncvms_members/csdn/mail/editor/mail/.mbox" 550 5.0.0 ... Can't create output Final-Recipient: RFC822; editor at csdn.net Action: failed Status: 5.3.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 73 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:55 +0800 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joe Jiang To: editor at csdn.net Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:27:53 +0800 Subject: 年末合集文章推荐 亲爱的 CSDN 编辑,你好: 抱歉冒昧的打扰,我代表 perlchina.org 中国 perl 用户社区来向你推荐一篇描述 perl 在中国推广的一个社区介绍的文章,希望能够加入你们的《程序员》年末合集。 我们的社区非常关注中国的程序员生涯发展状况,在仰慕你们的杂志的高技术和关爱开发人员的成长的同时,也关注信息系统管理员的职业规划。希望能和你们在各个领域展开合作。 据我所知,贵刊物曾经发表过数篇关于 perl 的文章,其中多少提到了我们这个自由软件学习社区。我个人非常感谢编辑团队的关照,希望进一步建立联系。 在2005年的圣诞节就快要来到的时候,我们总结了一下今年的发展,写了一篇文章回顾我们的社区的重要记事。希望能够得到你们的指导和建议,谢谢!如果能够发表在订阅量巨大的年末合集将非常感激。 此文章以 wiki 形式发布和团体修改,目前的版本可以参考 http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/report2005 附件为此文章的纯文本版本(采用 UTF-8 格式编码),谢谢查收。 -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mvuޛ!٥ -------------- next part -------------- PerlChina 2005 年报 2005 年初发生了一件很特别的事情,BBS.perlchina.org 停掉了。因为一台服务器的 CPU 坏掉而导致一个月左右无法交流关于 Perl 的信息。 然后有一个 iperl.org 站点开始代替原来的论坛做临时应急,文章寥寥无几。因为老服务器的文章格式转入是个大项目。这个时候有个叫做 hoowa 的人开始召集大家翻译 perl.com 上面的英文资料,并告诉大家已经得到了 O'Reilly 公司的授权。他在 BBS 上面发布了招募此项目经理的信息以后不久,有两三个人报名,这样就开始了一个漫长的道路。 很快有一个关于 MVC 框架(名为 maypole)的文章翻译了出来,原作者 Simon 作为一个 CPAN 上面的高产模块作者已经从 hacker 圈子中间退休去读神学了。但是他时常还是回来看看,写写书,做点讲座。这篇文章正是 hoowa 建议翻译的几篇文章之一,其他文章也先后得到翻译并发布在 BBS 上面。于是项目经理很快扩展了待翻译文章列表,这次大概有 20 多篇文章加入了花名册。 这时候 BBS 开始不能满足格式化文章的要求了,原来的一些格式标签已经显得老旧。有人开始提议使用风格更加自由的 Wiki,以更加灵活的方式和内容来动态更改文章列表。 某一天一个叫做 Wiki.PerlChina.org 的站点突然出现在大家眼前,其中还有一些简单的分类信息和一篇翻译好的 perl 邮件处理的文章,原作者还是那个 Simon,而翻译者和站点的架设者就是上海的 chunzi。 突然之间大家可以用 Wiki 的格式来自由的进行文章排版了,文章之间也可以很好的相互参照。这大大的促进了大家的协调,于是很多的专栏开始在此成长。很快就有了一个远在加拿大的 qiang 开始翻译 Randal 的系列杂志稿件,chunzi 也开始了一个 cook book 系列,以每天一篇的方式同步覆盖那本著名的书的免费章节。在生物信息学方面的朋友也开始加入,其中 klaus 翻译了一篇堪称考古文献的 Perl is Important。 有一天大家从 hoowa 那里得知北京要开一个亚洲自由软件座谈会,而台湾的 perl 专家 autrijus 也要去。就有人在 BBS 上面开玩笑说,如果能请他吃饭就好了。没想到 autrijus 很快回信说他很愿意和他家见面,于是很多人纷纷计划行程,从各地集结到北京。 于是在 AOSS 会议结束以后的那个周六中午,在北京的一个烤鸭店里面有了第一次全国范围的 perl 爱好者聚会。台湾一行四人被分在两桌,和大家一起吃喝,饭后大家去了北京的爱好者“剑侠”的公司听取讲座。autrijus 介绍了用 haskell 开发 pugs 的 perl6 相关计划,并罗列了 CPAN 上面有趣的模块。讲座非常精彩以至于在结束后,很多人还久久不愿离去。 在此以后,从北京回到各地的爱好者开始用 irc 和 QQ 相互结合的形式分享会议见闻。很快有了一个专用的 irc 和 QQ 桥被济南的 alexe 开发出来,简化了大家的聊天工具,这也让很多人看到了 perl 的强大之处。一时之间此开源工具广为流传,在很多自由软件社区得到使用。 在这个工具稳定运行后,有人提议以公司的名义赞助一次上海的本地用户聚会,并同时宣告了文化衫制作的计划。这样的好消息很快得到响应,从聚会地点到讲座主题及文化衫图样的问题迅速得到落实。 于是在五月份,上海就有了第二次 perl 爱好者聚会,江浙两省有多人参加。复旦大学的 klaus 作为东道主为大家热情服务并带来生物学方面的朋友参加。此次会议效仿北京的聚会,安排午餐作为促进大家沟通的渠道。而赞助方也在会议上公开宣布招聘信息。 连续参与两次聚会的 hoowa 很快和香港的 perl 用户协会建立了联系。有了 2006 年北京春季聚会的计划。因为赞助方热情捐献会议室,聚会场所也提前确定。在此之后,邮件列表、会员登记站点 member.PerlChina.org 也先后建立,和 BBS 结合达到了形式上面的多样性。 在秋季,北京的 nomas 又和出差经过的 hoowa 一起召集了第二次北京爱好者聚会,参加的朋友中居然有 6 位生物信息学博士/硕士。而同月宣布的上海聚会,也首次有了外国朋友参加。加拿大的华人爱好者在多伦多也有了定期的聚会。 随着 Wiki 上面的文章数量增加,中文化翻译项目的覆盖面越来越广。大家齐心协力胜过了 spammer 的攻击,而 perlchina 开发站点和 pod 翻译计划也开始浮出水面。 到本文撰写时刻为止,各地登记在 member 站点的华人 perl 爱好者接近四百人,而 Wiki 上面的数百篇文章中也有数十篇经过整理向外发表。PerlChina 向 CPAN 提交模块也有了几次尝试。相信随着大家的参与我们会对这个国际社区有更多的贡献。 在本文的末尾,作者本人也想分享自己学习 perl 两三年的感受。在 IT 开发管理技术日益繁杂的今天,perl 这个看来有点土的语言实际上蕴含了巨大的潜力,如果不是有了它,作者的很多创造潜力都将无法发挥,英文水平也会停留在简单阅读阶段,更不可能认识这么多有创意的人和社区。如果说有哪种语言开创了包容和劝导学习者的开发和管理能力平衡的先河,那就是 perl。所以请大家拿出更多的自由时间,擦去骆驼书封面的灰尘,来加入我们的行列一起远行吧,祝愿大家逆风飘扬! From chunzi at perlchina.org Mon Dec 12 00:21:31 2005 From: chunzi at perlchina.org (Chunzi) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:21:31 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details Message-ID: Joe Jiang,您好! joe, 看你的文字像是从英文翻译过来的,:)有点生硬。 ======== 2005-12-12 15:34:44 您在来信中写道: ======== 希望大家能够帮忙找到合适的媒体来推荐我们的社区报告发表到各大杂志 :) 进一步欢迎 comment :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Date: Dec 12, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details To: joejiang799 at gmail.com The original message was received at Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:54 +0800 from zproxy.gmail.com [ 64.233.162.199] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: Can't create output) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- procmail: Quota exceeded while writing ".mbox" procmail: Quota exceeded while writing "/uncvms_members/csdn/mail/editor/mail/.mbox" 550 5.0.0 ... Can't create output Final-Recipient: RFC822; editor at csdn.net Action: failed Status: 5.3.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 73 Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:55 +0800 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joe Jiang < joejiang799 at gmail.com> To: editor at csdn.net Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:27:53 +0800 Subject: 年末合集文章推荐 亲爱的 CSDN 编辑,你好: 抱歉冒昧的打扰,我代表 perlchina.org 中国 perl 用户社区来向你推荐一篇描述 perl 在中国推广的一个社区介绍的文章,希望能够加入你们的《程序员》年末合集。 我们的社区非常关注中国的程序员生涯发展状况,在仰慕你们的杂志的高技术和关爱开发人员的成长的同时,也关注信息系统管理员的职业规划。希望能和你们在各个领域展开合作。 据我所知,贵刊物曾经发表过数篇关于 perl 的文章,其中多少提到了我们这个自由软件学习社区。我个人非常感谢编辑团队的关照,希望进一步建立联系。 在2005年的圣诞节就快要来到的时候,我们总结了一下今年的发展,写了一篇文章回顾我们的社区的重要记事。希望能够得到你们的指导和建议,谢谢!如果能够发表在订阅量巨大的年末合集将非常感激。 此文章以 wiki 形式发布和团体修改,目前的版本可以参考 http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/report2005 附件为此文章的纯文本版本(采用 UTF-8 格式编码),谢谢查收。 -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =         致 礼!               Chunzi               chunzi at perlchina.org                2005-12-12 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?v????!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 00:24:14 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:24:14 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details In-Reply-To: <20051212082201.30FBF1775E@x6.develooper.com> References: <20051212082201.30FBF1775E@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: sorry, it's really hand writing in chinese :D please give me more detailed comment, thanks a lot. On 12/12/05, Chunzi wrote: > > Joe Jiang,您好! > joe, 看你的文字像是从英文翻译过来的,:)有点生硬。 > > ======== 2005-12-12 15:34:44 您在来信中写道: ======== > > > 希望大家能够帮忙找到合适的媒体来推荐我们的社区报告发表到各大杂志 :) > 进一步欢迎 comment :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > Date: Dec 12, 2005 3:22 PM > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > To: joejiang799 at gmail.com > > The original message was received at Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:54 +0800 > from zproxy.gmail.com [ 64.233.162.199] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: Can't create output) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > procmail: Quota exceeded while writing ".mbox" > procmail: Quota exceeded while writing > "/uncvms_members/csdn/mail/editor/mail/.mbox" > 550 5.0.0 ... Can't create output > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; editor at csdn.net > Action: failed > Status: 5.3.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 73 > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:55 +0800 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joe Jiang < joejiang799 at gmail.com> > To: editor at csdn.net > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:27:53 +0800 > Subject: 年末合集文章推荐 > 亲爱的 CSDN 编辑,你好: > > 抱歉冒昧的打扰,我代表 perlchina.org 中国 perl 用户社区来向你推荐一篇描述 perl > 在中国推广的一个社区介绍的文章,希望能够加入你们的《程序员》年末合集。 > > > 我们的社区非常关注中国的程序员生涯发展状况,在仰慕你们的杂志的高技术和关爱开发人员的成长的同时,也关注信息系统管理员的职业规划。希望能和你们在各个领域展开合作。 > > 据我所知,贵刊物曾经发表过数篇关于 perl 的文章,其中多少提到了我们这个自由软件学习社区。我个人非常感谢编辑团队的关照,希望进一步建立联系。 > > > 在2005年的圣诞节就快要来到的时候,我们总结了一下今年的发展,写了一篇文章回顾我们的社区的重要记事。希望能够得到你们的指导和建议,谢谢!如果能够发表在订阅量巨大的年末合集将非常感激。 > > 此文章以 wiki 形式发布和团体修改,目前的版本可以参考 > http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/report2005 > > 附件为此文章的纯文本版本(采用 UTF-8 格式编码),谢谢查收。 > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > 致 > 礼! > > Chunzi > chunzi at perlchina.org > 2005-12-12 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mv}m!٥ From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 00:56:57 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:56:57 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details In-Reply-To: References: <20051212082201.30FBF1775E@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: thanks nomas who give me this sample text: Office技术专家俱乐部(简称OTEC) 专注领域: Office技术专家俱乐部专注于Office System产品和技术。包括:Office的各个客户端组件、Office SmartClient、SharePoint Portal Server、Project Server、Live Communication Server、Rights Management Service等,以及Office12等前沿技术。 社区代表人物: 陈曦、陈捷等许多拥有丰富开发经验的专家。 社区简介: Office技术专家俱乐部由微软中国公司组织和管理的,采用会员制的一个俱乐部组织。组织的宗旨和目的是通过俱乐部这个平台,将在Office System这个平台上进行开发和解决方案设计的技术专家聚集起来,共享知识,共同提高。 社区大事记: 俱乐部在2005年年初成立,到现在为止,已经相继在北京、上海、广州三地一共举行了12次会员线下聚会。 俱乐部网站和社区自开通以来,已经成为了核心会员日常交流技术心得的场所。 每个月,俱乐部都会向所有会员发送一份电子会刊,将上个月的活动总结、论坛精华、活动预告、俱乐部大事等信息及时告知会员。 今年活动: 从2005年3月份开始,每隔三个月,都已经在北京、上海、广州三地召开一次会员线下活动。最近的一次活动是2005年12月份的三地会员线下会议。 社区网站:www.msotec.net On 12/12/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > sorry, it's really hand writing in chinese :D > > please give me more detailed comment, thanks a lot. > > On 12/12/05, Chunzi wrote: > > > Joe Jiang,您好! > > joe, 看你的文字像是从英文翻译过来的,:)有点生硬。 > > > > ======== 2005-12-12 15:34:44 您在来信中写道: ======== > > > > > > 希望大家能够帮忙找到合适的媒体来推荐我们的社区报告发表到各大杂志 :) > > 进一步欢迎 comment :) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem < MAILER-DAEMON at mail.uasit.com > > > Date: Dec 12, 2005 3:22 PM > > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > > To: joejiang799 at gmail.com > > > > The original message was received at Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:54 +0800 > > from zproxy.gmail.com [ 64.233.162.199] > > > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > > (reason: Can't create output) > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > procmail: Quota exceeded while writing ".mbox" > > procmail: Quota exceeded while writing > > "/uncvms_members/csdn/mail/editor/mail/.mbox" > > 550 5.0.0 ... Can't create output > > > > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; editor at csdn.net > > Action: failed > > Status: 5.3.0 > > Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 73 > > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:55 +0800 > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Joe Jiang < joejiang799 at gmail.com> > > To: editor at csdn.net > > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:27:53 +0800 > > Subject: 年末合集文章推荐 > > 亲爱的 CSDN 编辑,你好: > > > > 抱歉冒昧的打扰,我代表 perlchina.org 中国 perl 用户社区来向你推荐一篇描述 perl > > 在中国推广的一个社区介绍的文章,希望能够加入你们的《程序员》年末合集。 > > > > > > 我们的社区非常关注中国的程序员生涯发展状况,在仰慕你们的杂志的高技术和关爱开发人员的成长的同时,也关注信息系统管理员的职业规划。希望能和你们在各个领域展开合作。 > > > > 据我所知,贵刊物曾经发表过数篇关于 perl 的文章,其中多少提到了我们这个自由软件学习社区。我个人非常感谢编辑团队的关照,希望进一步建立联系。 > > > > > > 在2005年的圣诞节就快要来到的时候,我们总结了一下今年的发展,写了一篇文章回顾我们的社区的重要记事。希望能够得到你们的指导和建议,谢谢!如果能够发表在订阅量巨大的年末合集将非常感激。 > > > > 此文章以 wiki 形式发布和团体修改,目前的版本可以参考 > > http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/report2005 > > > > 附件为此文章的纯文本版本(采用 UTF-8 格式编码),谢谢查收。 > > > > -- > > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > > > > > > > -- > > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > 致 > > 礼! > > > > Chunzi > > chunzi at perlchina.org > > 2005-12-12 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mvMs!M5٥ From ywomol at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 07:28:50 2005 From: ywomol at gmail.com (YW) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:28:50 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Fwd: Returned mail: see transcript for details In-Reply-To: References: <200512120722.jBC7MtAZ013040@mail.uasit.com> Message-ID: 对方信箱满了呢... On 12/12/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > 希望大家能够帮忙找到合适的媒体来推荐我们的社区报告发表到各大杂志 :) > 进一步欢迎 comment :) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > Date: Dec 12, 2005 3:22 PM > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details > To: joejiang799 at gmail.com > > The original message was received at Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:54 +0800 > from zproxy.gmail.com [ 64.233.162.199] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: Can't create output) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > procmail: Quota exceeded while writing ".mbox" > procmail: Quota exceeded while writing > "/uncvms_members/csdn/mail/editor/mail/.mbox" > 550 5.0.0 ... Can't create output > > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; editor at csdn.net > Action: failed > Status: 5.3.0 > Diagnostic-Code: X-Unix; 73 > Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:22:55 +0800 > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Joe Jiang < joejiang799 at gmail.com> > To: editor at csdn.net > Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:27:53 +0800 > Subject: 年末合集文章推荐 > 亲爱的 CSDN 编辑,你好: > > 抱歉冒昧的打扰,我代表 perlchina.org 中国 perl 用户社区来向你推荐一篇描述 perl > 在中国推广的一个社区介绍的文章,希望能够加入你们的《程序员》年末合集。 > > > 我们的社区非常关注中国的程序员生涯发展状况,在仰慕你们的杂志的高技术和关爱开发人员的成长的同时,也关注信息系统管理员的职业规划。希望能和你们在各个领域展开合作。 > > 据我所知,贵刊物曾经发表过数篇关于 perl 的文章,其中多少提到了我们这个自由软件学习社区。我个人非常感谢编辑团队的关照,希望进一步建立联系。 > > > 在2005年的圣诞节就快要来到的时候,我们总结了一下今年的发展,写了一篇文章回顾我们的社区的重要记事。希望能够得到你们的指导和建议,谢谢!如果能够发表在订阅量巨大的年末合集将非常感激。 > > 此文章以 wiki 形式发布和团体修改,目前的版本可以参考 > http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/report2005 > > 附件为此文章的纯文本版本(采用 UTF-8 格式编码),谢谢查收。 > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?v??q??!??? From fayland at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 08:52:14 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:52:14 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] joy in Perl Message-ID: <000201c5ff85$073711f0$bd0d1dac@fayland> 很抱歉要诸位再访问一次网页,不过这是因为把内容拷贝过来不仅会超出 maillist 所规定的最大字数而且会破坏格式。 所以只好麻烦诸位了。 这是一些非常好玩的东西。好东东不敢独享。:-) http://www.fayland.org/journal/051213.html Regards, -- Fayland Lam // From shijialee at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 19:57:52 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:57:52 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] joy in Perl In-Reply-To: <000201c5ff85$073711f0$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <000201c5ff85$073711f0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512121957x4b7ac006w635f4b2609c4d651@mail.gmail.com> 还从来没有试过 Acme 模块, Larry Wall 的那个图像很象。 这里有个不错的大家有空试试,作者写这个程序是纪念他使用 perlmonks 两年。程序形状是 2 years, 运行后的结果更是有意义。 http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=309253 Qiang On 12/12/05, fayland wrote: > 很抱歉要诸位再访问一次网页,不过这是因为把内容拷贝过来不仅会超出 maillist 所规定的最大字数而且会破坏格式。 > 所以只好麻烦诸位了。 > > 这是一些非常好玩的东西。好东东不敢独享。:-) > > http://www.fayland.org/journal/051213.html > > Regards, > -- > Fayland Lam // From shijialee at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 20:08:24 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:08:24 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] joy in Perl In-Reply-To: <000201c5ff85$073711f0$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <000201c5ff85$073711f0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512122008y9c0c25ai4d56ccaedaa49e72@mail.gmail.com> oh,fayland, 刚看到你的第一个 paid job on Perl. http://www.fayland.org/journal/051212.html Congrats! 恭喜 :) 另外,我上班地方的 web 开发小组决定使用 Perl 作主要开发工具,可能需要人,翘首以待。 Qiang On 12/12/05, fayland wrote: > 很抱歉要诸位再访问一次网页,不过这是因为把内容拷贝过来不仅会超出 maillist 所规定的最大字数而且会破坏格式。 > 所以只好麻烦诸位了。 > > 这是一些非常好玩的东西。好东东不敢独享。:-) > > http://www.fayland.org/journal/051213.html > > Regards, > -- > Fayland Lam // > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:08:44 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:08:44 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode Message-ID: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> I have work, parse a text file, the text file is unicode(UTF-16) code file. I use the module named IO::File, I can read it, but I don't use regex. please help me . How i convert the unicode(utf-16) String to locale? thanks. -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w??m??!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:14:33 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:14:33 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> use Encode qw/encode decode/; print decode('UTF-16LE', $line); 2005/12/13, 黄叶 : > > I have work, parse a text file, > the text file is unicode(UTF-16) code file. > > I use the module named IO::File, I can read it, but I don't use regex. > please help me . > How i convert the unicode(utf-16) String to locale? > > thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w?G?g\???!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:18:17 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:18:17 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122118q1675a660q@mail.gmail.com> thanks. your reply is so fast. :) -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w???{?!??? From mlists.j at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:21:25 2005 From: mlists.j at gmail.com (Jennifer Garner) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:21:25 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Quote: use Encode qw/encode decode/; print decode('UTF-16LE', $line); You are wrong at all. Seeing here pls: http://bbs.chinaunix.net/viewthread.php?tid=657861&extra=page%3D4 On 12/13/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > use Encode qw/encode decode/; > print decode('UTF-16LE', $line); > > > 2005/12/13, 黄叶 : > > > > I have work, parse a text file, > > the text file is unicode(UTF-16) code file. > > > > I use the module named IO::File, I can read it, but I don't use regex. > > please help me . > > How i convert the unicode(utf-16) String to locale? > > > > thanks. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q〓〓〓〓〓!〓〓〓,r〓〓m〓〓m〓〓〓〓〓〓〓j+〓〓j)r〓j〓〓j〓r〓〓〓〓9〓w〓〓〓〓〓!〓〓〓 From dongxu.ma at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:28:09 2005 From: dongxu.ma at gmail.com (Dongxu Ma) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:28:09 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> perldoc -f binmode Good luck On 12/13/05, Jennifer Garner wrote: > > Quote: > use Encode qw/encode decode/; > print decode('UTF-16LE', $line); > > You are wrong at all. > Seeing here pls: > http://bbs.chinaunix.net/viewthread.php?tid=657861&extra=page%3D4 > > > > On 12/13/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > > > use Encode qw/encode decode/; > > print decode('UTF-16LE', $line); > > > > > > 2005/12/13, 黄叶 : > > > > > > I have work, parse a text file, > > > the text file is unicode(UTF-16) code file. > > > > > > I use the module named IO::File, I can read it, but I don't use regex. > > > > > > please help me . > > > How i convert the unicode(utf-16) String to locale? > > > > > > thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------- > > Achilles Xu > > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- Bst Rgrs, Dongxu -------------- next part -------------- q〓〓〓〓〓!〓〓〓,r〓〓m〓〓m〓〓〓〓〓〓〓j+〓〓j)r〓j〓〓j〓r〓〓〓〓9〓w〓G〓M〓〓〓!〓〓M5〓〓 From fayland at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:31:22 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:31:22 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] joy in Perl References: <000201c5ff85$073711f0$bd0d1dac@fayland> <4ab5ddef0512122008y9c0c25ai4d56ccaedaa49e72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006b01c5ffa6$75b753d0$bd0d1dac@fayland> 可遇不可求呀。如果经常有的话我就天天在家写 Perl ,多爽。 Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: "Qiang (James) Li" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] joy in Perl > oh,fayland, 刚看到你的第一个 paid job on Perl. > http://www.fayland.org/journal/051212.html > Congrats! 恭喜 :) > > 另外,我上班地方的 web 开发小组决定使用 Perl 作主要开发工具,可能需要人,翘首以待。 > > Qiang > > > On 12/12/05, fayland wrote: > > 很抱歉要诸位再访问一次网页,不过这是因为把内容拷贝过来不仅会超出 maillist 所规定的最大字数而且会破坏格式。 > > 所以只好麻烦诸位了。 > > > > 这是一些非常好玩的东西。好东东不敢独享。:-) > > > > http://www.fayland.org/journal/051213.html > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Fayland Lam // > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:37:36 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:37:36 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. and when I use the regex, whether i will take care of the file's coding? -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w??w???!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:07:24 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:07:24 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> in addition, how use the function named "binmode "? Can i get a complete code? here is i write , but it is not work. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use IO::File; use Encode qw(encode decode from_to); my $file = IO::File->new("./report.csv", "r") or die " $!"; my $file_temp = IO::File->new("./li.txt", "w") or die "$!"; my $i = 1; my $a = "\"2005-8\""; if ( $a =~ /^"/ ) { print "OK", "\n", $a, "\n";; } while ( $b = <$file> ) { from_to($b, "UTF-16LE", "Latin1"); # my $b = decode("UTF-16LE", $_); print $b, "\n"; print $file_temp $b, "\n"; $i++; } $file->close(); print $i, "\n"; > > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:11:51 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:11:51 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512122211v71029334w@mail.gmail.com> 最好用syswrite而不是print 那一步出错? 2005/12/13, 黄叶 : > > in addition, how use the function named "binmode "? > Can i get a complete code? > here is i write , but it is not work. > > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > use strict; > use IO::File; > use Encode qw(encode decode from_to); > > my $file = IO::File->new("./report.csv", "r") or die " $!"; > my $file_temp = IO::File->new("./li.txt", "w") or die "$!"; > > my $i = 1; > my $a = "\"2005-8\""; > if ( $a =~ /^"/ ) { > print "OK", "\n", $a, "\n";; > } > > while ( $b = <$file> ) { > from_to($b, "UTF-16LE", "Latin1"); > # my $b = decode("UTF-16LE", $_); > print $b, "\n"; > print $file_temp $b, "\n"; > $i++; > } > > $file->close(); > print $i, "\n"; > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w?o?!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:14:53 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:14:53 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512122211v71029334w@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122211v71029334w@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122214q74699d6ak@mail.gmail.com> HI, *Formalin Achilles, the perl script have no error. but it generate file can't read. * -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w?~?????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:18:17 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:18:17 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122214q74699d6ak@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122211v71029334w@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122214q74699d6ak@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512122218x1d287df4n@mail.gmail.com> 用editplus打开看看,可能只是换行识别的不好。 2005/12/13, 黄叶 : > > HI, *Formalin Achilles, > the perl script have no error. > but it generate file can't read. > > > * > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w????!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:24:31 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:24:31 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512122218x1d287df4n@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122211v71029334w@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122214q74699d6ak@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122218x1d287df4n@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122224i504d6cdeu@mail.gmail.com> I use the gedit open it, and choice the coding is utf-16, it was opened. :( 在05-12-13,Formalin Achilles 写道: > > 用editplus打开看看,可能只是换行识别的不好。 > > 2005/12/13, 黄叶 : > > > > HI, *Formalin Achilles, > > the perl script have no error. > > but it generate file can't read. > > > > > > * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > --------------------------- > Achilles Xu > http://www.formalin14.org > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w??4snz{?!??M5?? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:31:39 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:31:39 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122224i504d6cdeu@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122207v7aeb58c6m@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122211v71029334w@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122214q74699d6ak@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122218x1d287df4n@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122224i504d6cdeu@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122231n2e96e3a7v@mail.gmail.com> Hi, all. I have resolve the problem. thanks very much. I only encode the regex expression to "UTF-16LE", use it matching the String that was encoded "UTF-16LE", it is ok. :) -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w?{?!??? From dongxu.ma at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 22:52:48 2005 From: dongxu.ma at gmail.com (Dongxu Ma) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:52:48 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9bc0d5d20512122252m614838f4w6f8291eed8e89d78@mail.gmail.com> See L L L C<< binmode FH, qq(:UTF16); >> before read or C<< open FH, "<:UTF16", ""; >> directly Regarding unicode support in reg, consalt x{blah} and p{blah} series. current default unicode implementation in Perl is utf8. good luck On 12/13/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > Thanks. > > and when I use the regex, whether i will take care of the file's coding? > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- Bst Rgrs, Dongxu -------------- next part -------------- q〓〓〓〓〓!〓〓〓,r〓〓m〓〓m〓〓〓〓〓〓〓j+〓〓j)r〓j〓〓j〓r〓〓〓〓9〓w〓o〓!〓〓〓 From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 12 21:44:30 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:44:30 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about unicode In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512122108u65539727t@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512122114l4187f29ds@mail.gmail.com> <9bc0d5d20512122128n23f6482bi3e2145b8a6bedbce@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512122137u35e5db0co@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512122144w5da4527cg@mail.gmail.com> in addition, how use the function named "binmode "? Can i get a complete code? here is i write , but it is not work. #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use IO::File; use Encode qw(encode decode from_to); my $file = IO::File->new("./report.csv", "r") or die " $!"; my $file_temp = IO::File->new("./li.txt", "w") or die "$!"; my $i = 1; my $a = "\"2005-8\""; if ( $a =~ /^"/ ) { print "OK", "\n", $a, "\n";; } while ( $b = <$file> ) { from_to($b, "UTF-16LE", "Latin1"); # my $b = decode("UTF-16LE", $_); print $b, "\n"; print $file_temp $b, "\n"; $i++; } $file->close(); print $i, "\n"; -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?w???!??M5?? -------------- next part -------------- z'???r?????????z????\??^??j?j??y???,???? ??Z???i?^R?a???f????????????z{l?m4??????+?M4?? From shijialee at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 17:23:47 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:23:47 -0500 Subject: =?GB2312?B?TGFycnkgV2FsbCC/qM2ozbzGrCAsIL/J0tTTw9Tau8O1xsaswO8go7o=?= =?GB2312?B?o6kgUmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIGpveSBpbiBQZXJs?= Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512131723u6473c60em40e493d363bf0da1@mail.gmail.com> 碰巧看到一个 larry wall 的卡通图片, 以后作讲演的时候可以用在幻灯片里 :) http://www.perlcabal.com/lwall.html oh, 通过上面连接还可以看到很多 Perl 社区里的有名的人。 Mark-Jason Dominus ( higher order Perl 作者) , Damian Conway 等.. Qiang From hylinux at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 19:40:43 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:40:43 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] how test a string is number? Message-ID: <74646cb40512131940n2ab9b17fn@mail.gmail.com> HI, all I use the Getopt::Std gather the args from command line. example: #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strcit; use Getopt::Std; my %opts = (); getopt("d", \%opts); print $opts{"d"} Ok, Now I need a number value about the args named "d", but How i test the char is number? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?x????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 19:47:48 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:47:48 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] how test a string is number? In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512131940n2ab9b17fn@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512131940n2ab9b17fn@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512131947v50b49bfl@mail.gmail.com> if ($opts{"d"} =~ m/[0-9]+\.?[0-9]*/) { } 2005/12/14, 黄叶 : > > HI, all > I use the Getopt::Std gather the args from command line. > > example: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > use strcit; > use Getopt::Std; > my %opts = (); > getopt("d", \%opts); > > print $opts{"d"} > > Ok, Now I need a number value about the args named "d", but > How i test the char is number? > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?x?M????!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 19:57:33 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:57:33 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] how test a string is number? In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512131947v50b49bfl@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512131940n2ab9b17fn@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512131947v50b49bfl@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512131957j45700621q@mail.gmail.com> thanks. -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?x??k^?!??? From shijialee at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 21:12:42 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:12:42 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] how test a string is number? In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512131940n2ab9b17fn@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512131940n2ab9b17fn@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512132112p5ab5be38r6e5deed7a2b6599@mail.gmail.com> 我现在都是使用 Getopt::Long , 功能强大,也不复杂。具体看 perldoc Getopt::Long 拿里面的一个例子来讲, use Getopt::Long; my $data = "file.dat"; my $length = 24; my $float = 2.5; my $verbose; $result = GetOptions ("length=i" => \$length, # 整数 "file=s" => \$data, # 字符串 "float=f" => \$float, # floating number "verbose" => \$verbose); # flag 如果提供的参数不是要求的会提示的。 hm, any reason why you use english only here? that makes other people less helpful to you as not everyone good at english. Qiang On 12/13/05, 黄叶 wrote: > HI, all > I use the Getopt::Std gather the args from command line. > > example: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > use strcit; > use Getopt::Std; > my %opts = (); > getopt("d", \%opts); > > print $opts{"d"} > > Ok, Now I need a number value about the args named "d", but > How i test the char is number? > > Thanks. From joejiang799 at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 01:35:02 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:35:02 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?56S+5Yy6566A5LuL?= Message-ID: 专注领域: PerlChina 专注于 Perl 语言和相关文化与技术。包括:Perl 的 字符、图形界面以及 Web 服务开发,Perl 在系统管理的应用。还进一步包括 Perl 代表的自由软件文化和 Hacker 的乐趣。并且一直密切关注 Perl6、parrot、PUGS 等前言开拓领域。 社区代表人物: hoowa、chunzi、qiang、fayland 等许多拥有平衡管理与开发经验和乐于分享经验的专家。 社区简介: PerlChina 是一个民间的用户社区。组织的宗旨和目的是通过社区的形式来聚集 Perl 爱好者,彼此帮助解决技术问题,并且建立起学习伙伴关系和区域特色学习团队,翻译技术资料以降低初学者入手难度。 社区大事记: 社区在 2000 年立,到现在为止,已经相继在北京、上海、厦门三地一共举行了 7 次会员线下聚会。 社区网站和聊天室自开通以来,已经成为了核心会员日常交流技术心得的场所。 今年活动: 年初经历了 BBS 系统的崩溃和重建,并因此触发了 Perl 文档中文化项目,建立了 Wiki 站点。 春季在北京开了首次全国的 Perl 聚会,台湾爱好者在 AOSSS 期间参与并做讲座。 夏季在上海开了华东地区的用户聚会,得到 Asterlink 公司赞助开始了文化衫项目。 秋季在厦门宣布了本地用户聚会。 冬季会员站点上线接受爱好者自发注册,并在北京和上海先后召开本地用户聚会。 策划了明年与香港爱好者在北京的聚会。 翻译计划覆盖了 perl.com 较多的文章并扩展到更多的实用组件模块,评选翻译者得到免费书籍作为奖励。 IRC 与 QQ 群聊天频道合并之后建立起较为高效的沟通机制。 在上海和成都尝试推荐工作机会给会员,使得当地公司用户得到足够的人力供给。 更多详细信息请参考 http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/report2005 社区网站:www.perlchina.org -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mxu맺!٥ From chunzi at perlchina.org Wed Dec 14 22:15:14 2005 From: chunzi at perlchina.org (Chunzi) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:15:14 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?W0FOTk9VTkNFXSBDYXRhbHlzdCBBZHZlbnQgQ2Fs?= =?gb2312?b?ZW5kYXIg1tDOxLDm?= Message-ID: China-pm,您好! Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 source http://dev.perlchina.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/CatalystAdventChinese will depoly on: http://catalyst.perlchina.org/calendar 我已经做好了 Day 15 ,欢迎各位把 Day 6 ~ Day 14 完成。 使用 UTF8 字符集编写 pod。需要 svn 账户参与。         致 礼!         Chunzi         chunzi at perlchina.org           2005-12-15 From fayland at gmail.com Wed Dec 14 22:54:24 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:54:24 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_=5BPerlChina=5D_=5BANNOUNCE=5D_Catal?= =?utf-8?Q?yst_Advent_Calendar_=E4=B8=AD=E6=96=87=E7=89=88?= References: <20051215061547.3E9001777D@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <001801c60144$642cf670$bd0d1dac@fayland> 反正有源码, run 起来好了。这样方便别人看。 Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chunzi" To: "China-pm" Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: [PerlChina] [ANNOUNCE] Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 > China-pm,您好! > > Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 > > source > http://dev.perlchina.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/CatalystAdventChinese > > will depoly on: > http://catalyst.perlchina.org/calendar > > 我已经做好了 Day 15 ,欢迎各位把 Day 6 ~ Day 14 完成。 > 使用 UTF8 字符集编写 pod。需要 svn 账户参与。 > > >         致 > 礼! > > >         Chunzi >         chunzi at perlchina.org >           2005-12-15 > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From chunzi at perlchina.org Wed Dec 14 23:01:13 2005 From: chunzi at perlchina.org (Chunzi) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:01:13 +0800 Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFJlOl9bUGVybENoaW5hXV9bQU5OT1VOQ0VdX0NhdGFseXN0X0FkdmVudF9DYWxlbmRhcl/W0M7EsOY=?= Message-ID: fayland,您好! 是啊,现在架好了,原来想用 HTTP + ProxyPass 不过没法部署到 /calendar 下面。 于是参考 Day 7,直接用 mod_perl 方式部署,然后将 / rewrite 到 /calendar。 所以现在可以通过: http://catalyst.perlchina.org/ http://catalyst.perlchina.org/calendar 访问。 文章都很短,豆腐干,比较容易做。 ======= 2005-12-15 14:54:24 您在来信中写道:======= >反正有源码, run 起来好了。这样方便别人看。 > >Regards, >-- >Fayland Lam // > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chunzi" >To: "China-pm" >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:15 PM >Subject: [PerlChina] [ANNOUNCE] Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 > > >> China-pm,您好! >> >> Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 >> >> source >> http://dev.perlchina.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/CatalystAdventChinese >> >> will depoly on: >> http://catalyst.perlchina.org/calendar >> >> 我已经做好了 Day 15 ,欢迎各位把 Day 6 ~ Day 14 完成。 >> 使用 UTF8 字符集编写 pod。需要 svn 账户参与。 >> >> >>         致 >> 礼! >> >> >>         Chunzi >>         chunzi at perlchina.org >>           2005-12-15 >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >_______________________________________________ >China-pm mailing list >China-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =         致 礼!         Chunzi         chunzi at perlchina.org           2005-12-15 From fayland at gmail.com Thu Dec 15 01:21:57 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:21:57 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Re:=5F=5BPerlChina=5D=5F=5BANNOUNCE=5D=5FC?= =?utf-8?Q?atalyst=5FAdvent=5FCalendar=5F=E4=B8=AD=E6=96=87=E7=89=88?= References: <20051215070201.A708D17775@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <003001c60159$0118afb0$bd0d1dac@fayland> 问题好像是我翻译好了也没更新呀。 Catalyst 出了个 Schedule 外挂。可能有点用。 Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chunzi" To: Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Re:_[PerlChina]_[ANNOUNCE]_Catalyst_Advent_Calendar_中文版 > fayland,您好! > > 是啊,现在架好了,原来想用 HTTP + ProxyPass 不过没法部署到 /calendar 下面。 > 于是参考 Day 7,直接用 mod_perl 方式部署,然后将 / rewrite 到 /calendar。 > > 所以现在可以通过: > http://catalyst.perlchina.org/ > http://catalyst.perlchina.org/calendar > 访问。 > > 文章都很短,豆腐干,比较容易做。 > > ======= 2005-12-15 14:54:24 您在来信中写道:======= > > >反正有源码, run 起来好了。这样方便别人看。 > > > >Regards, > >-- > >Fayland Lam // > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chunzi" > >To: "China-pm" > >Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:15 PM > >Subject: [PerlChina] [ANNOUNCE] Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 > > > > > >> China-pm,您好! > >> > >> Catalyst Advent Calendar 中文版 > >> > >> source > >> http://dev.perlchina.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/CatalystAdventChinese > >> > >> will depoly on: > >> http://catalyst.perlchina.org/calendar > >> > >> 我已经做好了 Day 15 ,欢迎各位把 Day 6 ~ Day 14 完成。 > >> 使用 UTF8 字符集编写 pod。需要 svn 账户参与。 > >> > >> > >>         致 > >> 礼! > >> > >> > >>         Chunzi > >>         chunzi at perlchina.org > >>           2005-12-15 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> China-pm mailing list > >> China-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > >_______________________________________________ > >China-pm mailing list > >China-pm at pm.org > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > >         致 > 礼! > > >         Chunzi >         chunzi at perlchina.org >           2005-12-15 > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From hylinux at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 04:59:15 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:59:15 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl Message-ID: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m@mail.gmail.com> Hi, All I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web application too. and are there somebody use the mod_perl? thanks. -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?z?s?!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 07:00:51 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:00:51 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: so many of them, cause the origional cgi is used less in the web server. mod_perl of apache replaced so many of them. not only on speed, but also at other fields. On 12/16/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > Hi, All > I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web > application too. > and are there somebody use the mod_perl? > > thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mzu!٥ From shijialee at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 07:40:30 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:40:30 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1134747630.7850.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> I don't use it. but there are lots other people use it. such as amazon.com imdb.com ticketmaster.com macromedia.com bbc.co.uk yahoo.com AOL Siemens symantec 我可以一直讲下去 , :-) 想知道更多的话到 http://jobs.perl.org 搜索 mod_perl 看看谁在招聘 mod_perl 程序员. yahoo http://jobs.perl.org/job/3276 http://jobs.perl.org/job/3000 AOL http://jobs.perl.org/job/3386 Qiang On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 20:59 +0800, 黄叶 wrote: > Hi, All > I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web > application too. > and are there somebody use the mod_perl? > > thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From imyoursunshine at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 23:14:34 2005 From: imyoursunshine at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?6Zi/5pyX?=) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:14:34 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4326f5670512162314r1dd92067h@mail.gmail.com> 大家好! 出于对perl的兴趣我加入了这个mailing list,但是对于这个mailing list有一点看法,提出来大家指正。 *1.* list里面水分太多。我首先指的是大量的关于信息发表时间、发表人、大量的引用等等,往往得费劲地在一大群蚂蚁里面找几个有用的词儿。不知道这个邮件列表系统是谁做的?可以定制吗?能否考虑将无用信息减少,或用超链接隐藏,或用灰色字体显示?其次,希望大家认真提问题,解答者也能认真解答问题。对于经典的问题,最好能有个稍微系统些、全面些的解释,即使是转载也无所谓啊,能说明问题始末才好,如果能给人启示就更好了。转载请注明zz。 *2.*建议大家阶段性地集中讨论一些主题。这样比无目的地、自由地讨论便于阅读者的思维集中,也便于解答者的资料搜索。 *3.* 大家的英文水平有待提高。这一点无可厚非,我本人也是。我想说的是,首先大家发言的时候稍微斟酌一下自己的语法,其次对于较普遍的问题,明眼人也请不吝指正。这一点以不妨害perl交流本身为限。 谢谢大家:) 祝编程愉快!哈哈 __________________________________________________________________________ 2005/12/17, china-pm-request at pm.org : > > Send China-pm mailing list submissions to > china-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > china-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > china-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of China-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. about the mod_perl (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) > 2. Re: about the mod_perl (Joe Jiang) > 3. Re: about the mod_perl (Qiang (James) Li) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:59:15 +0800 > From: =?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?= > Subject: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl > To: china-pm at pm.org > Message-ID: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, All > I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web > application too. > and are there somebody use the mod_perl? > > thanks. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/china-pm/attachments/20051216/e5a5fe3c/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:00:51 +0800 > From: Joe Jiang > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl > To: china-pm at pm.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > so many of them, cause the origional cgi is used less in the web server. > mod_perl of apache replaced so many of them. not only on speed, but also > at > other fields. > > On 12/16/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > > > Hi, All > > I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web > > application too. > > and are there somebody use the mod_perl? > > > > thanks. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/china-pm/attachments/20051216/43eda2e2/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:40:30 -0500 > From: "Qiang (James) Li" > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl > To: china-pm at pm.org > Message-ID: <1134747630.7850.24.camel at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I don't use it. but there are lots other people use it. such as > > amazon.com > imdb.com > ticketmaster.com > macromedia.com > bbc.co.uk > yahoo.com > AOL > Siemens > symantec > > 我可以一直讲下去 , :-) 想知道更多的话到 http://jobs.perl.org 搜索 > mod_perl 看看谁在招聘 mod_perl 程序员. > yahoo http://jobs.perl.org/job/3276 http://jobs.perl.org/job/3000 > AOL http://jobs.perl.org/job/3386 > > > Qiang > > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 20:59 +0800, 黄叶 wrote: > > Hi, All > > I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web > > application too. > > and are there somebody use the mod_perl? > > > > thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > End of China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 > *************************************** > -- Best regards, Johnson, Shi 施建安 ============================================== P.O.Box 1710,Xi'an Jiaotong University Xi'an,710049,P.R.China Tel: 86-29-8266-8802 Ext.8007 MOBILE: 86-139-9129-9985 OICQ: 9853988 ============================================== -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m{oxo!٥ From shijialee at gmail.com Fri Dec 16 23:43:18 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:43:18 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: <4326f5670512162314r1dd92067h@mail.gmail.com> References: <4326f5670512162314r1dd92067h@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512162343l3fee8f87v594169b2be369c22@mail.gmail.com> On 12/17/05, 阿朗 wrote: > 大家好! > > 出于对perl的兴趣我加入了这个mailing list,但是对于这个mailing list有一点看法,提出来大家指正。 欢迎! > 1.list里面水分太多。我首先指的是大量的关于信息发表时间、发表人、大量的引用等等,往往得费劲地在一大群蚂蚁里面找几个有用的词儿。不知道这个邮件列表系统是谁做的?可以定制吗?能否考虑将无用信息减少,或用超链接隐藏,或用灰色字体显示?其次,希望大家认真提问题,解答者也能认真解答问题。对于经典的问题,最好能有个稍微系统些、全面些的解释,即使是转载也无所谓啊,能说明问题始末才好,如果能给人启示就更好了。转载请注明zz。 > 信息发表时间、发表人、大量的引用等等的问题我前几天发的信里就提到过。见 http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/china-pm/2005-December/000287.html 适当去掉引用是邮件组交流的常识,我想有些朋友对此还不熟悉,希望大家私下可以提醒一下这样的朋友。这要靠大家努力维持了,过段时间会好些吧。 另外,你发的这封 email 就把我们的讨论全部引用上了,至少你在提出这个问题的时候自己也要注意吧。 > 2.建议大家阶段性地集中讨论一些主题。这样比无目的地、自由地讨论便于阅读者的思维集中,也便于解答者的资料搜索。 > 咱们的邮件组主要功能是大家提问,互相帮助,共享信息的地方。集中讨论一些问题是个好主意,我不反对。但我想还是大家自发比较好些。 > 3.大家的英文水平有待提高。这一点无可厚非,我本人也是。我想说的是,首先大家发言的时候稍微斟酌一下自己的语法,其次对于较普遍的问题,明眼人也请不吝指正。这一点以不妨害perl交流本身为限。 > 我倒是很想纠正,但这是很个人的问题,而且有些语法问题太多,我不想咱们的 Perl 邮件组变成 英文学习小组 :-) 或许英文不好的朋友应该使用中文? > 谢谢大家:) > > 祝编程愉快!哈哈 okay, 现在睡觉去啦.... Qiang From hylinux at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 01:01:14 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:01:14 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512162343l3fee8f87v594169b2be369c22@mail.gmail.com> References: <4326f5670512162314r1dd92067h@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512162343l3fee8f87v594169b2be369c22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512170101v1c937ad7p@mail.gmail.com> haha. my English is very limited. but If I can't use English, so, I can't use English for ever. you will found it is very important about study English. the English syntax is not important, Use English is pivotal. -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?{?w ?to?!??? From mlists.j at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 05:33:23 2005 From: mlists.j at gmail.com (Jennifer Garner) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:33:23 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] about the mod_perl In-Reply-To: <1134747630.7850.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <74646cb40512160459l28297dd6m@mail.gmail.com> <1134747630.7850.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I use mod_perl too.It's a very powerful web developing technology.I think it's worth while you studying it. There are many free documents of mod_perl on http://perl.apache.org They are written by famous mod_perl experts such as Stas Bekman.You can learn much from there. ---- 兰花仙子 On 12/16/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > I don't use it. but there are lots other people use it. such as > > amazon.com > imdb.com > ticketmaster.com > macromedia.com > bbc.co.uk > yahoo.com > AOL > Siemens > symantec > > 我可以一直讲下去 , :-) 想知道更多的话到 http://jobs.perl.org 搜索 > mod_perl 看看谁在招聘 mod_perl 程序员. > yahoo http://jobs.perl.org/job/3276 http://jobs.perl.org/job/3000 > AOL http://jobs.perl.org/job/3386 > > > Qiang > > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 20:59 +0800, 黄叶 wrote: > > Hi, All > > I known use the perl write the cgi, but mod_perl can develop the web > > application too. > > and are there somebody use the mod_perl? > > > > thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?{?n??k?!??M5?? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 16:33:27 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:33:27 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] what's wrong with Bundle::Catalyst? Message-ID: 观察了很久,一直没有办法升级 Bundle::Catalyst 达到 0.07 版本,作者 sri 的目录里面确实没有这个文件,但是它出现在等待升级的列表里面有段时间了。真是奇怪 :) 另外如果在系统中间有两个版本的 perl 的话有些安装测试会失败,因为默认的测试脚本开头的 shebang(#!) 都是针对 /usr/bin/perl 的,而另一个真正常用的版本是 /usr/local/bin/perl。可能是模块作者没有注意这种情况? -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m|m߭!٥ From fayland at gmail.com Sat Dec 17 19:06:29 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:06:29 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] what's wrong with Bundle::Catalyst? References: Message-ID: <001f01c60380$0c8de1c0$bd0d1dac@fayland> report it use CPANPLUS. :-) 目前 Catalyst 推出了新的打包不再是 Bundle 而是 Task::Catalyst 试试这个。 Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Jiang To: china-pm at pm.org Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:33 AM Subject: [PerlChina] what's wrong with Bundle::Catalyst? 观察了很久,一直没有办法升级 Bundle::Catalyst 达到 0.07 版本,作者 sri 的目录里面确实没有这个文件,但是它出现在等待升级的列表里面有段时间了。真是奇怪 :) 另外如果在系统中间有两个版本的 perl 的话有些安装测试会失败,因为默认的测试脚本开头的 shebang(#!) 都是针对 /usr/bin/perl 的,而另一个真正常用的版本是 /usr/local/bin/perl。可能是模块作者没有注意这种情况? -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From saladjonk at gmail.com Sun Dec 18 19:33:21 2005 From: saladjonk at gmail.com (salad jonk) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:33:21 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?urzW3cv+y/7U9cO00fmjv9PQw7vT0NDWtdzBy73i?= =?gb2312?b?y7XSu8/C?= Message-ID: 杭州塔塔怎么样?有没有兄弟了解说一下 -- I am young,so my heart is full of dream -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?}?]?oo[{?!??? From xiang.li at net263.com Sun Dec 18 22:16:13 2005 From: xiang.li at net263.com (??(??)) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:16:13 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 References: <4326f5670512162314r1dd92067h@mail.gmail.com><4ab5ddef0512162343l3fee8f87v594169b2be369c22@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512170101v1c937ad7p@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005301c60463$b6b8de00$19e39dd3@lixnote> yeah, we sing the same song. ----- Original Message ----- From: ?? To: china-pm at pm.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] China-pm Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 haha. my English is very limited. but If I can't use English, so, I can't use English for ever. you will found it is very important about study English. the English syntax is not important, Use English is pivotal. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9?}?V????!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 17:58:02 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:58:02 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] what's wrong with Bundle::Catalyst? In-Reply-To: <001f01c60380$0c8de1c0$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <001f01c60380$0c8de1c0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: thanks so much, it worked. keep up with pace again :) On 12/18/05, fayland wrote: > > report it use CPANPLUS. :-) > > 目前 Catalyst 推出了新的打包不再是 Bundle 而是 Task::Catalyst > 试试这个。 > > Regards, > -- > Fayland Lam // > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Jiang > To: china-pm at pm.org > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:33 AM > Subject: [PerlChina] what's wrong with Bundle::Catalyst? > > > 观察了很久,一直没有办法升级 Bundle::Catalyst 达到 0.07 版本,作者 sri > 的目录里面确实没有这个文件,但是它出现在等待升级的列表里面有段时间了。真是奇怪 :) > > 另外如果在系统中间有两个版本的 perl 的话有些安装测试会失败,因为默认的测试脚本开头的 shebang(#!) 都是针对 > /usr/bin/perl 的,而另一个真正常用的版本是 /usr/local/bin/perl。可能是模块作者没有注意这种情况? > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m_{8k!٥ From fayland at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 22:27:15 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:27:15 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?6Zi05Y6G6Zeu6aKY?= Message-ID: <002601c6052e$6d8adf50$bd0d1dac@fayland> 非常抱歉重复发帖,不过我非常急用。抱歉。 我的问题是: 谁用过阴历模块,我在写一个 Date::Holidays::CN 模块。但是阴历用 DateTime::Calendar::Chinese 总是有些对有些不对。谁能推荐一个阴历模块? 我用 DateTime::Calendar::Chinese 的时候,比如 2004/2/5 是元宵,农历一月十五号 2005/9/18 是中秋 2005/10/11 是重阳 可我只能这样能到它们的农历,非常非常奇怪的事: my $time = timegm(0,0,0, 5, 2, 2004); my $dt = DateTime::Calendar::Chinese->from_epoch(epoch => $time); $dt->set_time_zone('Asia/Shanghai'); print $dt->month, $dt->day; $time = timelocal(0,0,0, 18, 8, 2005); $dt = DateTime::Calendar::Chinese->from_epoch(epoch => $time); $dt->set_time_zone('Asia/Shanghai'); print $dt->month, $dt->day; my $time = timegm(0,0,0, 5, 2, 2004); $dt = DateTime::Calendar::Chinese->from_epoch(epoch => $time); $dt->set_time_zone('Asia/Shanghai'); print $dt->month, $dt->day; 第一个要用 timegm 而且月必须得写 2 而不是 2-1=1 第二个非的用 timelocal 第三个要用 timegm, 月跟第一个不同,得 -1 我真是头都大了。这能活生生把我气吐血。 Thanks for your help. Regards, -- Fayland Lam // From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 22:46:12 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:46:12 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?u+HUsdbQ0MTOqsqyw7S1x8K8srvJz8ilsKGjvw==?= Message-ID: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> why I can't login the perlChina member? I am sure my username and password is correct. My browser is Firefox. Mike.G -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???????!??? From nomas.zhou at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 23:00:58 2005 From: nomas.zhou at gmail.com (nomas) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:00:58 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILvh1LHW0NDEzqrKssO0tcfCvLK7yc/IpbCho78=?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <158876750512192300j2b668df0y@mail.gmail.com> 我也有这个问题。我也是firefox。在成员列表中也找不到我的用户名了。重发密码后,用发过来的密码登录也不行。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???w??o?!??? From fayland at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 23:03:26 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:03:26 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] ?????????????? References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004001c60533$7b669830$bd0d1dac@fayland> ???????????????????:) Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: ?? To: china-pm at pm.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [PerlChina] ?????????????? why I can't login the perlChina member? I am sure my username and password is correct. My browser is Firefox. Mike.G ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ China-pm mailing list China-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???n????!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 19 23:52:45 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:52:45 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=E4=BC=9A=E5=91=98=E4=B8=AD=E5=BF=83=E4=B8=BA=E4=BB=80?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B9=88=E7=99=BB=E5=BD=95=E4=B8=8D?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B8=8A=E5=8E=BB=E5=95=8A=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 可能是其他的问题吧,我也一直用 firefox 1.0.7 没有你们说过的问题呀? 还有一个好消息就是 wiki 的 RSS 先在正常了,很方便,thanks chunzi On 12/20/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > why I can't login the perlChina member? > I am sure my username and password is correct. > > My browser is Firefox. > > Mike.G > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m]z!٥ From ywomol at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 00:27:31 2005 From: ywomol at gmail.com (YW) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:27:31 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?zsq49s7KzOIsudjT2tPgyv21xC4uLg==?= Message-ID: 问个问题: C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl print -3 % 2; ^Z 1 C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl print -5 % 7; ^Z 2 C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl print 7 % -5; ^Z -3 C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl print 3 % -2; ^Z -1 ---------- 倒数第二个, 7% -5, 太古怪了, 内部不知道是怎么算的? -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9????Z}??!??M5?? From qiulj.maiko at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 01:27:46 2005 From: qiulj.maiko at gmail.com (qiulj maiko) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:27:46 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?zsq49s7KzOIsudjT2tPgyv21xC4uLg==?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96aec3d70512200127w6a2aa384p@mail.gmail.com> print 3 % -2;和print 7 % -5;内部是一样的 最后一个你是怎么理解的? 在 05-12-20,YW 写道: > 问个问题: > C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl > print -3 % 2; > ^Z > 1 > C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl > print -5 % 7; > ^Z > 2 > C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl > print 7 % -5; > ^Z > -3 > C:\Documents and Settings\YW>perl > print 3 % -2; > ^Z > -1 > ---------- > 倒数第二个, 7% -5, 太古怪了, 内部不知道是怎么算的? > From ywomol at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 02:35:23 2005 From: ywomol at gmail.com (YW) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:35:23 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIM7KuPbOysziLLnY09rT4Mr9tcQuLi4=?= In-Reply-To: <96aec3d70512200127w6a2aa384p@mail.gmail.com> References: <96aec3d70512200127w6a2aa384p@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 最后一个? 我认为余数和除数符号相同 那应该就是-1了... -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???w?!??? From qiulj.maiko at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 03:13:33 2005 From: qiulj.maiko at gmail.com (qiulj maiko) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:13:33 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIM7KuPbOysziLLnY09rT4Mr9tcQuLi4=?= In-Reply-To: References: <96aec3d70512200127w6a2aa384p@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <96aec3d70512200313u1f207c74k@mail.gmail.com> print 7 % -5 就是 7-5=2 2-5=-3 余数和除数符号相同 所以是-3啊 在05-12-20,YW 写道: > > 最后一个? > 我认为余数和除数符号相同 > 那应该就是-1了... > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???? ?o?!??? From shijialee at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 06:21:40 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:21:40 -0500 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILvh1LHW0NDEzqrKssO0tcfCvLK7yc/IpbCho78=?= In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ab5ddef0512200621h66bb65f3m42e53b030c0e5509@mail.gmail.com> 刚试过登录,没有问题。 joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 Qiang On 12/20/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > 可能是其他的问题吧,我也一直用 firefox 1.0.7 没有你们说过的问题呀? > > 还有一个好消息就是 wiki 的 RSS 先在正常了,很方便,thanks chunzi > > > On 12/20/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > > > why I can't login the perlChina member? > > I am sure my username and password is correct. > > > > My browser is Firefox. > > > > Mike.G From fayland at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 06:26:27 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:26:27 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIOS8muWRmOS4reW/g+S4uuS7gOS5iOeZuw==?= =?utf-8?B?5b2V5LiN5LiK5Y675ZWK77yf?= References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512200621h66bb65f3m42e53b030c0e5509@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002001c60571$608107b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> 我这 wiki 的 RSS 还是 127.0.0.1:2500 http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/rss_with_headlines Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: "Qiang (James) Li" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 会员中心为什么登录不上去啊? > 刚试过登录,没有问题。 > > joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 > > Qiang > > On 12/20/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > 可能是其他的问题吧,我也一直用 firefox 1.0.7 没有你们说过的问题呀? > > > > 还有一个好消息就是 wiki 的 RSS 先在正常了,很方便,thanks chunzi > > > > > > On 12/20/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > > > > > why I can't login the perlChina member? > > > I am sure my username and password is correct. > > > > > > My browser is Firefox. > > > > > > Mike.G > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From joejiang799 at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 06:25:04 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:25:04 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=E4=BC=9A=E5=91=98=E4=B8=AD=E5=BF=83=E4=B8=BA=E4=BB=80?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B9=88=E7=99=BB=E5=BD=95=E4=B8=8D?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B8=8A=E5=8E=BB=E5=95=8A=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: <4ab5ddef0512200621h66bb65f3m42e53b030c0e5509@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512200621h66bb65f3m42e53b030c0e5509@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 以前的输出都是 http://127.0.0.1:8000/main/show/abc On 12/20/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > 刚试过登录,没有问题。 > > joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 > > Qiang > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m_!٥ From joejiang799 at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 06:36:44 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:36:44 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=E4=BC=9A=E5=91=98=E4=B8=AD=E5=BF=83=E4=B8=BA=E4=BB=80?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B9=88=E7=99=BB=E5=BD=95=E4=B8=8D?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B8=8A=E5=8E=BB=E5=95=8A=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: <002001c60571$608107b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512200621h66bb65f3m42e53b030c0e5509@mail.gmail.com> <002001c60571$608107b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: sorry i made a mistake, BTW tikiwiki is very cool, i am enjoying doing POE slide with it :D BTW, it's in utf8 encoding :) On 12/20/05, fayland wrote: > > 我这 wiki 的 RSS 还是 127.0.0.1:2500 > > http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/rss_with_headlines > > Regards, > -- > Fayland Lam // > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Qiang (James) Li" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:21 PM > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 会员中心为什么登录不上去啊? > > > > 刚试过登录,没有问题。 > > > > joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 > > > > Qiang > > > > On 12/20/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > > 可能是其他的问题吧,我也一直用 firefox 1.0.7 没有你们说过的问题呀? > > > > > > 还有一个好消息就是 wiki 的 RSS 先在正常了,很方便,thanks chunzi > > > > > > > > > On 12/20/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > > > > > > > why I can't login the perlChina member? > > > > I am sure my username and password is correct. > > > > > > > > My browser is Firefox. > > > > > > > > Mike.G > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mzi!M5٥ From shijialee at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 18:44:37 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li) Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:44:37 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] catalyst in a box Message-ID: <000c01c605d8$7f0d9830$3201a8c0@cozy505> 刚在 use.perl.org 上读到这个日记。 http://use.perl.org/~jk2addict/journal/ 如果你安装 Catalyst (Perl 的 MVC 框架) 有问题或是没有权限安装,试试这个包 http://handelframework.com/downloads/CatInABox.tar.gz 包里有 Catalyst 5.61 Catalyst-View-TT 0.20 Catalyst-Plugin-FillInForm 0.06* Catalyst-Plugin-FormValidator 0.02 安装:首先确保你有 Perl 5.8.1 以上的版本。然后解压,windows 平台的双击 start.bat, *nix 平台的运行 ./start.sh 想学习 Catalyst 的可以到 www.perlchina.org 首页看看已经翻译的两篇 Catalyst 入门文章。Catalyst 网站 http://catalyst.perl.org Qiang From ywomol at gmail.com Tue Dec 20 22:01:33 2005 From: ywomol at gmail.com (YW) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 14:01:33 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIM7KuPbOysziLLnY09rT4Mr9tcQuLi4=?= In-Reply-To: <96aec3d70512200313u1f207c74k@mail.gmail.com> References: <96aec3d70512200127w6a2aa384p@mail.gmail.com> <96aec3d70512200313u1f207c74k@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 明白了,谢谢 On 12/20/05, qiulj maiko wrote: > > print 7 % -5 就是 7-5=2 2-5=-3 余数和除数符号相同 > 所以是-3啊 > > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???????!??? From chunzi at perlchina.org Wed Dec 21 10:10:24 2005 From: chunzi at perlchina.org (Chunzi) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:10:24 +0800 Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFJlOl9bUGVybENoaW5hXV+74dSx1tDQxM6qyrLDtLXHwryyu8nPyKWwoaO/?= Message-ID: Joe Jiang,您好! sorry for lazy handling this, it fixed now, just change the view template: /perlchina.org/instiki-0.10.2/app/views/wiki|rss_feed.rhtml ======== 2005-12-20 22:25:04 您在来信中写道: ======== 以前的输出都是 http://127.0.0.1:8000/main/show/abc On 12/20/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: 刚试过登录,没有问题。 joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 Qiang -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =         致 礼!               Chunzi               chunzi at perlchina.org                2005-12-22 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???? ?x??!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Wed Dec 21 15:07:17 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:07:17 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Re:=5F[PerlChin?= =?UTF-8?Q?a]=5F=E4=BC=9A=E5=91=98=E4=B8=AD=E5=BF=83=E4=B8=BA?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=BB=80=E4=B9=88=E7=99=BB=E5=BD=95?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B8=8D=E4=B8=8A=E5=8E=BB=E5=95=8A=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: <20051221181058.82B9517784@x6.develooper.com> References: <20051221181058.82B9517784@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: thanks so much for your effort :D Good things for us happen all the year :) On 12/22/05, Chunzi wrote: > > Joe Jiang,您好! > sorry for lazy handling this, it fixed now, just change the view template: > > /perlchina.org/instiki-0.10.2/app/views/wiki|rss_feed.rhtml > > ======== 2005-12-20 22:25:04 您在来信中写道: ======== > > > 以前的输出都是 http://127.0.0.1:8000/main/show/abc > > On 12/20/05, Qiang (James) Li wrote: > > > > 刚试过登录,没有问题。 > > > > joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 > > > > Qiang > > > > -- > > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > 致 > 礼! > > Chunzi > chunzi at perlchina.org > 2005-12-22 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m=sG!٥ From shijialee at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 08:35:12 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:35:12 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?tPO6+tfT1KSy4tK7uPa158TU0+/R1LXEw/zUyyA6?= =?gb2312?b?LSk=?= Message-ID: <000f01c60715$aedf3850$3201a8c0@cozy505> 比较搞笑。Larry Wall 的胡子看来应该留着了。:-) http://xrl.us/ja67 Qiang From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 17:14:48 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:14:48 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILTzuvrX09SksuLSu7j2tefE1NPv0dS1xMP81MsgOi0p?= In-Reply-To: <000f01c60715$aedf3850$3201a8c0@cozy505> References: <000f01c60715$aedf3850$3201a8c0@cozy505> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512221714n3cb6acdel@mail.gmail.com> 我说最近怎么进步不多,原来是把胡子给刮了的原因。那么是不是让唐中汉也把胡子蓄上,呵呵。 2005/12/23, Qiang ( James ) Li : > > 比较搞笑。Larry Wall 的胡子看来应该留着了。:-) > > http://xrl.us/ja67 > > Qiang > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9??????!??? From chunzi at perlchina.org Thu Dec 22 17:55:11 2005 From: chunzi at perlchina.org (Chunzi) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:55:11 +0800 Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILTzuvrX09SksuLSu7j2tefE1NPv0dS1xMP81MsgOi0p?= Message-ID: Qiang ( James ) Li,您好! 看来 fayland 有前途~~ ======= 2005-12-23 00:35:12 您在来信中写道:======= >比较搞笑。Larry Wall 的胡子看来应该留着了。:-) > > http://xrl.us/ja67 > >Qiang > >_______________________________________________ >China-pm mailing list >China-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =         致 礼!         Chunzi         chunzi at perlchina.org           2005-12-23 From fayland at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 20:32:15 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:32:15 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?55yL5YiwIEhvb3dhIOeahOaooeWdlw==?= Message-ID: <000501c60779$dbe987b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> http://search.cpan.org/~hoowa/Asterisk-config/Asterisk/config.pm 谁懂这个的或许可以帮他写下 pod 文档。 Regards, -- Fayland Lam // From hylinux at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 21:01:36 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:01:36 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?xKO/6bW8yOvW0LXEcXcoOkRFRkFVTFQp1tC1xDo=?= =?gb2312?b?ysfKssO00uLLvMTYo7/U9cO0wLS1xKO/?= Message-ID: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> Hi, 可以用中文了,爽。 不过有一个问题, 请问一下Perl中导入模块的时候比如: use IO::Socket qw(:DEFAULT :crlf); 这其中的 : 是什么意思呢?怎么在模块中来操作它呢? 谢谢。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???k?!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 21:18:24 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:18:24 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChi?= =?UTF-8?Q?na]_=E6=A8=A1=E5=9D=97=E5=AF=BC=E5=85=A5=E4=B8=AD=E7=9A=84qw?= =?UTF-8?Q?(:DEFAULT)=E4=B8=AD=E7=9A=84?= =?UTF-8?Q?:=E6=98=AF=E4=BB=80=E4=B9=88=E6=84=8F=E6=80=9D?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=91=A2=EF=BC=9F=E6=80=8E=E4=B9=88=E6=9D=A5=E7=9A=84=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 可以输入一组在 %EXPORT_TAGS 里面的名字 定义模块如下: our %EXPORT_TAGS = ( camelids => [qw($camel @llama)], critters => [qw(ram $camel %wolf)], ); 使用模块如下: use Bestiary qw(:camelids); # 输入$camel和@llama use Bestiary qw(:DEFAULT); # 输入@EXPORT符号 详情请见 programming perl 的章节: 11.2.1 模块私有和输出器 On 12/23/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > Hi, > 可以用中文了,爽。 > 不过有一个问题, > 请问一下Perl中导入模块的时候比如: > use IO::Socket qw(:DEFAULT :crlf); > 这其中的 : 是什么意思呢?怎么在模块中来操作它呢? > > 谢谢。 > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mxw=!٥ From shijialee at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 21:18:26 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 00:18:26 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] =?UTF-8?Q?=E6=A8=A1=E5=9D=97=E5=AF=BC=E5=85=A5=E4=B8=AD=E7=9A=84qw=28=3AD?= =?UTF-8?Q?EFAULT=29=E4=B8=AD=E7=9A=84=3A=E6=98=AF=E4=BB=80=E4=B9=88?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E6=84=8F=E6=80=9D=E5=91=A2=EF=BC=9F=E6=80=8E=E4=B9=88?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E6=9D=A5=E7=9A=84=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1135315106.12174.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 13:01 +0800, 黄叶 wrote: > Hi, > 可以用中文了,爽。 > 不过有一个问题, > 请问一下Perl中导入模块的时候比如: > use IO::Socket qw(:DEFAULT :crlf); > 这其中的 : 是什么意思呢?怎么在模块中来操作它呢? 推荐你看看咱们 PerlChina 翻译的这篇文档 "简单模块指南", 里面讲的很清 楚。 http://www.perlchina.org/archive/archive.php?action=archive&page=33 Qiang From fayland at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 21:30:27 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:30:27 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIOWkp+iDoeWtkOmihOa1i+S4gOS4queUteiEkQ==?= =?utf-8?B?6K+t6KiA55qE5ZG96L+QIDotKQ==?= References: <20051223015524.CBFBB17777@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <004f01c60781$fd284c10$bd0d1dac@fayland> 看来这胡子是打死都要留住了。:-) Regards, -- Fayland Lam // ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chunzi" To: "Qiang ( James ) Li, china-pm at pm" <"shijialee at gmail.com, china-pm"@pm.org> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 大胡子预测一个电脑语言的命运 :-) > Qiang ( James ) Li,您好! > > 看来 fayland 有前途~~ > > ======= 2005-12-23 00:35:12 您在来信中写道:======= > > >比较搞笑。Larry Wall 的胡子看来应该留着了。:-) > > > > http://xrl.us/ja67 > > > >Qiang > > > >_______________________________________________ > >China-pm mailing list > >China-pm at pm.org > >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > >         致 > 礼! > > >         Chunzi >         chunzi at perlchina.org >           2005-12-23 > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From hylinux at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 21:33:57 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:33:57 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMSjv+m1vMjr1tC1xHF3?= =?GB2312?B?KDpERUZBVUxUKdbQtcQ6ysfKssO00uLLvMTYo7/U9cO0wLS1xKO/?= In-Reply-To: <1135315106.12174.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> <1135315106.12174.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <74646cb40512222133q4706cd63v@mail.gmail.com> 谢谢。 我买的几本书上好像都没讲到这个。所以觉得很奇怪。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???g??!??M5?? From cnhacktnt at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 22:35:14 2005 From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhack TNT) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:35:14 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdILTzuvrX09SksuLSu7j2tefE1NPv0dS1xMP81MsgOi0p?= In-Reply-To: <004f01c60781$fd284c10$bd0d1dac@fayland> References: <20051223015524.CBFBB17777@x6.develooper.com> <004f01c60781$fd284c10$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: fayland 的小胡子得留长并且得横向发展才更好啊~~ :-P On 12/23/05, fayland wrote: > > 看来这胡子是打死都要留住了。:-) > > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9??????!??? From cnhacktnt at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 22:40:09 2005 From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhack TNT) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:40:09 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMSjv+m1vMjr1tC1xHF3?= =?GB2312?B?KDpERUZBVUxUKdbQtcQ6ysfKssO00uLLvMTYo7/U9cO0wLS1xKO/?= In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 突然发现,TAG 这个随着web2.0热起来的东东早就在 PERL 里存在许久了呵呵:-) On 12/23/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > 可以输入一组在 %EXPORT_TAGS 里面的名字 > > 定义模块如下: > our %EXPORT_TAGS = ( > camelids => [qw($camel @llama)], > critters => [qw(ram $camel %wolf)], > ); > > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9????xi????!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Thu Dec 22 23:52:26 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:52:26 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMSjv+m1vMjr1tC1xHF3?= =?GB2312?B?KDpERUZBVUxUKdbQtcQ6ysfKssO00uLLvMTYo7/U9cO0wLS1xKO/?= In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512222352y6d073b1fp@mail.gmail.com> 啥叫web2.0? 在05-12-23,cnhack TNT 写道: > > 突然发现,TAG 这个随着web2.0热起来的东东早就在 PERL 里存在许久了呵呵:-) > > On 12/23/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > > > 可以输入一组在 %EXPORT_TAGS 里面的名字 > > > > 定义模块如下: > > our %EXPORT_TAGS = ( > > camelids => [ > > qw($camel @llama)], > > critters => [qw(ram $camel %wolf)], > > ); > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9????!??? From cnhacktnt at gmail.com Fri Dec 23 07:21:18 2005 From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhack TNT) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:21:18 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMSjv+m1vMjr1tC1xHF3?= =?GB2312?B?KDpERUZBVUxUKdbQtcQ6ysfKssO00uLLvMTYo7/U9cO0wLS1xKO/?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512222352y6d073b1fp@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512222101g6741a5bar@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512222352y6d073b1fp@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: web2.0是炒出来的一个概念词,实在是不知道怎么解释会比较全面呵呵(看看http://it.sohu.com/s2005/web2info.shtml ) On 12/23/05, Formalin Achilles wrote: > > 啥叫web2.0? > -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???w?!??? From cnhacktnt at gmail.com Fri Dec 23 07:23:44 2005 From: cnhacktnt at gmail.com (cnhack TNT) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:23:44 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Merry Christmas !! Message-ID: Hi all guys: Merry Christmas and happy new year ~~ :-) -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???????!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Sat Dec 24 07:19:29 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:19:29 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Merry Christmas !! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: happy christmas eve :) may God bless perlchina next year. good luck with a seeking heart On 12/23/05, cnhack TNT wrote: > > Hi all guys: > Merry Christmas and happy new year ~~ :-) > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mѷ9s!٥ From shijialee at gmail.com Sat Dec 24 09:03:06 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang ( James ) Li) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:03:06 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] Merry Christmas !! References: Message-ID: <002301c608ab$e98b7b20$3201a8c0@cozy505> nothing beats a christmast/newyear Chinese Perl Mongers meetup. and we are going to have one on Dec 30 in Toronto, Canada :-) will post pic later.. merry christmas and happy new year, everyone! Qiang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Jiang" To: Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] Merry Christmas !! > happy christmas eve :) may God bless perlchina next year. good luck with a > seeking heart > > On 12/23/05, cnhack TNT wrote: > > > > Hi all guys: > > Merry Christmas and happy new year ~~ :-) From fayland at gmail.com Sat Dec 24 18:23:13 2005 From: fayland at gmail.com (fayland) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 10:23:13 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] Merry Christmas !! In-Reply-To: <002301c608ab$e98b7b20$3201a8c0@cozy505> References: <002301c608ab$e98b7b20$3201a8c0@cozy505> Message-ID: <43AE0291.4070203@gmail.com> Merry Xmas! Qiang ( James ) Li wrote: > nothing beats a christmast/newyear Chinese Perl Mongers meetup. > and we are going to have one on Dec 30 in Toronto, Canada :-) > > will post pic later.. > > merry christmas and happy new year, everyone! > > Qiang > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Jiang" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] Merry Christmas !! > > > >> happy christmas eve :) may God bless perlchina next year. good luck with a >> seeking heart >> >> On 12/23/05, cnhack TNT wrote: >> >>> Hi all guys: >>> Merry Christmas and happy new year ~~ :-) >>> > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From joejiang799 at gmail.com Sun Dec 25 21:13:48 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:13:48 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=E4=BC=9A=E5=91=98=E4=B8=AD=E5=BF=83=E4=B8=BA=E4=BB=80?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B9=88=E7=99=BB=E5=BD=95=E4=B8=8D?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E4=B8=8A=E5=8E=BB=E5=95=8A=EF=BC=9F?= In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512192246y1344b52en@mail.gmail.com> <4ab5ddef0512200621h66bb65f3m42e53b030c0e5509@mail.gmail.com> <002001c60571$608107b0$bd0d1dac@fayland> Message-ID: sorry i have made a mistake, it's tiddywiki not tikiwiki :) http://www.tiddlywiki.com/ On 12/20/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > sorry i made a mistake, BTW tikiwiki is very cool, i am enjoying doing POE > slide with it :D > > BTW, it's in utf8 encoding :) > > On 12/20/05, fayland wrote: > > > > 我这 wiki 的 RSS 还是 127.0.0.1:2500 > > > > http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/rss_with_headlines > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Fayland Lam // < http://www.fayland.org/> > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Qiang (James) Li" > > To: < china-pm at pm.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 会员中心为什么登录不上去啊? > > > > > > > 刚试过登录,没有问题。 > > > > > > joe, wiki 的 rss 以前什么问题?我用的是 my.yahoo.com 的 rss 服务,还有点问题但可能是 yahoo 这面的。 > > > > > > Qiang > > > > > > On 12/20/05, Joe Jiang wrote: > > > > 可能是其他的问题吧,我也一直用 firefox 1.0.7 没有你们说过的问题呀? > > > > > > > > 还有一个好消息就是 wiki 的 RSS 先在正常了,很方便,thanks chunzi > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/20/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > why I can't login the perlChina member? > > > > > I am sure my username and password is correct. > > > > > > > > > > My browser is Firefox. > > > > > > > > > > Mike.G > > > _______________________________________________ > > > China-pm mailing list > > > China-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > _______________________________________________ > > China-pm mailing list > > China-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m!٥ From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 16:49:33 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:49:33 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?gb2312?b?bW9kX3Blcmy6zUNHSQ==?= Message-ID: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> 哪位朋友可以讲一下mod_perl和CGI之间的联系和区别? 能不能介绍一下,要如何进行mod_perl编程呢?我发现mod_perl国内的资料根本找不到。 能不能大致的写一下如何运行一个mod_perl的"hello, world"呢? 谢谢。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???O ?k?!??? From formalin14 at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 17:07:58 2005 From: formalin14 at gmail.com (Formalin Achilles) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:07:58 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIG1vZF9wZXJsus1DR0k=?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a6c0ba80512261707p1edbe6bav@mail.gmail.com> 代码上应该没什么区别吧(session处理上可能会有区别),只是mod_perl是在进程内运行,CGI是每次都单开一个进程。 在05-12-27,黄叶 写道: > > 哪位朋友可以讲一下mod_perl和CGI之间的联系和区别? > 能不能介绍一下,要如何进行mod_perl编程呢?我发现mod_perl国内的资料根本找不到。 > > 能不能大致的写一下如何运行一个mod_perl的"hello, world"呢? > > 谢谢。 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- --------------------------- Achilles Xu http://www.formalin14.org -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???^?{?!??? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 18:42:21 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:42:21 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIG1vZF9wZXJsus1DR0k=?= In-Reply-To: <4a6c0ba80512261707p1edbe6bav@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512261707p1edbe6bav@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <74646cb40512261842y23301e39o@mail.gmail.com> 哦。 既然代码上没有区别,那么使用mod_perl应该如何设置呢?是不是说mod_perl就是一个将perl嵌入apache里的模块是么? -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???{?!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 18:47:56 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:47:56 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]_mod=5Fperl=E5=92=8CCGI?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512261842y23301e39o@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> <4a6c0ba80512261707p1edbe6bav@mail.gmail.com> <74646cb40512261842y23301e39o@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 可以看看 fayland 的 blog 里面关于 mod_perl 的一些文章,另外还是推荐去读 mod_perl 的书,起码要读前三章,才能明白基本原理和开发,以及相关配置。 On 12/27/05, 黄叶 wrote: > > 哦。 > 既然代码上没有区别,那么使用mod_perl应该如何设置呢?是不是说mod_perl就是一个将perl嵌入apache里的模块是么? > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m}vk!٥ From dirkquill at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 20:42:28 2005 From: dirkquill at gmail.com (Jeff 'yonghua' Pang) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:42:28 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] SpamAssassin Message-ID: 这里有搞SpamAssassin的朋友吗?大家认识下。 SA是perl写的antispam项目,主页在: http://spamassassin.apache.org/ -- mail.163.com mail.126.com AntiSpam+ -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???^????!??? From shijialee at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 21:18:57 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:18:57 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] =?UTF-8?Q?mod=5Fperl=E5=92=8CCGI?= In-Reply-To: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1135660737.7822.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 08:49 +0800, 黄叶 wrote: > 哪位朋友可以讲一下mod_perl和CGI之间的联系和区别? > 能不能介绍一下,要如何进行mod_perl编程呢?我发现mod_perl国内的资料根本 > 找不到。 > mod_perl 的文章如果你搜一下的当然是有的。咱 PerlChina 上的 http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/Mod_Perl 具体在 mod_perl 下的程序要注意变量使用的问题。使用不小心的话,一个变量可 能会一直存在下去。所以,变量如果要在 subroutine 里使用时,要通过参数传递 过去。另一个解决办法是把整个 mod_perl 程序放到一个 package 里,这样此 package 里的变量就不会和其他的程序或 apache child process 共享。一时讲不 清楚,先自己看看,有问题接着问吧。我睡觉先了。:-) mod_perl 文档里有不少例子。 http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/porting.html 如果以前的 cgi 程序没有注意到变量的问题,那么就可以使用 Apache::Perlrun 来在 mod_perl 下提速你的 cgi 程序。这当然和纯 mod_perl 的程序效率没办法 比了。 Qiang From dirkquill at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 21:35:18 2005 From: dirkquill at gmail.com (Jeff 'yonghua' Pang) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:35:18 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIG1vZF9wZXJsus1DR0k=?= In-Reply-To: <1135660737.7822.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> <1135660737.7822.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: mod_perl最主要的优势是,它巧妙的把普通cgi进程封装在apache进程里,在apache启动时,mod_perl程序被预编译好,然后以面向对象的方式来访问这些方法和变量。 由于mod_perl程序驻留在内存里,所以它运行很快。但另一方面它也挺耗内存,大型站点的mod_perl程序通常跑几天后,就要重启Apache。 2005/12/27, Qiang (James) Li : > > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 08:49 +0800, 黄叶 wrote: > > 哪位朋友可以讲一下mod_perl和CGI之间的联系和区别? > > 能不能介绍一下,要如何进行mod_perl编程呢?我发现mod_perl国内的资料根本 > > 找不到。 > > > mod_perl 的文章如果你搜一下的当然是有的。咱 PerlChina 上的 > http://wiki.perlchina.org/main/show/Mod_Perl > > 具体在 mod_perl 下的程序要注意变量使用的问题。使用不小心的话,一个变量可 > 能会一直存在下去。所以,变量如果要在 subroutine 里使用时,要通过参数传递 > 过去。另一个解决办法是把整个 mod_perl 程序放到一个 package 里,这样此 > package 里的变量就不会和其他的程序或 apache child process 共享。一时讲不 > 清楚,先自己看看,有问题接着问吧。我睡觉先了。:-) > > mod_perl 文档里有不少例子。 > http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/porting.html > > 如果以前的 cgi 程序没有注意到变量的问题,那么就可以使用 Apache::Perlrun > 来在 mod_perl 下提速你的 cgi 程序。这当然和纯 mod_perl 的程序效率没办法 > 比了。 > > Qiang > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm -- mail.163.com mail.126.com AntiSpam+ -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9????i??!??M5?? From hylinux at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 21:57:36 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:57:36 +0800 Subject: =?GB2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIG1vZF9wZXJsus1DR0k=?= In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> <1135660737.7822.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <74646cb40512262157x3de4438eo@mail.gmail.com> 如果因为这个问题需要重启apache, 我觉得这不是一个太好的咚咚,当然我不太熟悉。看过之后才知道哦。 呵呵。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???s?!??? From shijialee at gmail.com Mon Dec 26 22:22:30 2005 From: shijialee at gmail.com (Qiang (James) Li) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:22:30 -0500 Subject: [PerlChina] =?UTF-8?Q?mod=5Fperl=E5=92=8CCGI?= In-Reply-To: References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> <1135660737.7822.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1135664550.7822.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 13:35 +0800, Jeff 'yonghua' Pang wrote: > mod_perl最主要的优势是,它巧妙的把普通cgi进程封装在apache进程里,在 > apache启动时,mod_perl程序被预编译好,然后以面向对象的方式来访问这些方 > 法和变量。 > 由于mod_perl程序驻留在内存里,所以它运行很快。 也可以是第一次运行这个 mod_perl 程序时才编译好。所以第一个运行这个 mod_perl 程序的用户会感觉到慢。 当然解决方法就是 "在apache启动时, mod_perl程序被预编译好" > 但另一方面它也挺耗内存,大型站点的mod_perl程序通常跑几天后,就要重启 > Apache。 > 这点我没有实际的经验,不过大型的 mod_perl 站肯定有使用 load-balance, server farm 的架构,如果需要重启 apache 应该也不是什么问题。 具体 mod_perl 的网站架构在 mod_perl 网站上有详细说明, perl.com 也有一个 由 mod_perl 开发人 Stas Bekman 撰写的优化 mod_perl 系列文章。 http://www.perl.com/pub/q/Article_Archive#mod_perl Qiang From joejiang799 at gmail.com Tue Dec 27 00:35:21 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:35:21 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]_mod=5Fperl=E5=92=8CCGI?= In-Reply-To: <1135664550.7822.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <74646cb40512261649x76a6262cx@mail.gmail.com> <1135660737.7822.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1135664550.7822.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: for people who can read english doc, dont forgot to run the command "perldoc mod_perl" and "perldoc Apache" i just found that very luckily -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9mm!٥ From mudga at perlchina.org Tue Dec 27 06:50:50 2005 From: mudga at perlchina.org (mudga) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:50:50 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] SpamAssassin Message-ID: Hello,Jeff 'yonghua' Pang   这里有一个啊,请问你用SA做些什么呢?做产品开发吗? mudga ======== 2005-12-27 12:42:28 ======== 这里有搞SpamAssassin的朋友吗?大家认识下。 SA是perl写的antispam项目,主页在: http://spamassassin.apache.org/ -- mail.163.com mail.126.com AntiSpam+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Regards                Jam                mudga at perlchina.org                 2005-12-27 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9???mZo???!??? From mudga at perlchina.org Tue Dec 27 06:50:50 2005 From: mudga at perlchina.org (mudga) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:50:50 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] SpamAssassin Message-ID: Hello,Jeff 'yonghua' Pang   这里有一个啊,请问你用SA做些什么呢?做产品开发吗? mudga ======== 2005-12-27 12:42:28 ======== 这里有搞SpamAssassin的朋友吗?大家认识下。 SA是perl写的antispam项目,主页在: http://spamassassin.apache.org/ -- mail.163.com mail.126.com AntiSpam+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Regards                Jam                mudga at perlchina.org                 2005-12-27 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9??????!??? From dirkquill at gmail.com Tue Dec 27 06:56:02 2005 From: dirkquill at gmail.com (Jeff 'yonghua' Pang) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:56:02 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] SpamAssassin In-Reply-To: <20051227145117.DFE211777A@x6.develooper.com> References: <20051227145117.DFE211777A@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: 我们借鉴了SpamAssassin的一些评分方法,不过我个人对SA挺有兴趣。你们呢? 在05-12-27,mudga 写道: > > Hello,Jeff 'yonghua' Pang > 这里有一个啊,请问你用SA做些什么呢?做产品开发吗? > > mudga > > ======== 2005-12-27 12:42:28 ======== > > > 这里有搞SpamAssassin的朋友吗?大家认识下。 > SA是perl写的antispam项目,主页在: > http://spamassassin.apache.org/ > > -- > mail.163.com > mail.126.com > AntiSpam+ > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > Regards > Jam > mudga at perlchina.org > 2005-12-27 > > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > -- mail.163.com mail.126.com AntiSpam Team -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9????{W?!??? From joejiang799 at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 17:26:13 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:26:13 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] mod_perl articles to translate at perl.com in the coming new year Message-ID: 虽然 mod_perl 已经是 2002-2003 年之间就开始成熟的东西,但是仍然有必要仔细的学习,希望我们能通过翻译资料,彼此学习。提高在这个 web server 开发的基础领域认识,方便我们进一步了解象 catalyst 这样较为高级的开发框架。以下为 http://www.perl.com/pub/q/Article_Archive#mod_perl 提供的文章列表,已经转化为打印友善的链接(pub->lpt)。 mod_perl Integrating mod_perl with Apache 2.1 Authentication It's a good time to be a programmer. Apache 2.1 and mod_perl 2 make it tremendously easy to customize any part of the Apache request cycle. The more secure but still easy-to-use Digest authentication is now widely supported in web browsers. Geoffrey Young demonstrates how to write a custom handler that handles Basic and Digest authentication with ease. [Jul 8, 2003] Testing mod_perl 2.0 Geoffrey Young examines another area of programming in mod_perl 2.0, testing your mod_perl scripts. [May 22, 2003] Filters in Apache 2.0 Geoffrey Young, co-author of the renowned mod_perl Cookbook, brings us an introduction to Apache mod_perl 2.0, starting with Apache filters. [Apr 17, 2003] Apache::VMonitor - The Visual System and Apache Server Monitor In Stas' final article in his mod_perl series, we investigate how to monitor the performance and stability of our now fully-tuned mod_perl server using Apache::VMonitor. [Apr 2, 2003] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 8 In the penultimate of Stas Bekman's mod_perl articles, more of those obscure Apache settings which can really speed up your web server. [Mar 4, 2003] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 7 In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, more on how settings in your Apache configuration can make or break performance. [Feb 5, 2003] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 6 In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, how to correctly fork new processes under mod_perl. [Jan 7, 2003] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 5 Stas Bekman continues his series on optimizing mod_perl by examining more ways of saving on shared memory usage. [Dec 4, 2002] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 4 Your web server may have plenty of memory, but are you making the best use of it? Stas Bekman explains how to optimize Apache and mod_perl for the most efficient memory use. [Jul 30, 2002] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 3 This week, Stas Bekman explains how to use the Perl and mod_perl benchmarking and memory measurement tools to perform worthwhile optimizations on mod_perl programs. [Jul 16, 2002] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 2 Before making any optimizations to mod_perl applications, it's important to know what you need to be optimizing. Benchmarks are key to this, and Stas Beckman introduces the important tools for mod_perl benchmarking. [Jun 19, 2002] Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part 1 What do we need to think about when optimizing mod_perl applications? Stas Bekman explains how hardware, software and good programming come into play. [May 29, 2002] Finding a mod_perl ISP... or Becoming One You're ready to use mod_perl -- but do you have a server to run it on? Stas Bekman explains what an ISP needs to do to run mod_perl programs, and how to find an ISP that lets you do so. [May 22, 2002] The Perl You Need To Know - Part 3 Stas Bekman finishes his introduction to the basic Perl skills you need to use mod_perl; this week, globals versus lexicals, modules and packages. [May 15, 2002] The Perl You Need To Know - Part 2 Stas Bekman continues his mod_perl series by looking at the basic Perl skills you need to use mod_perl; this week, subroutines inside subroutines. [May 7, 2002] The Perl You Need To Know This week, Stas Bekman goes back to basics to explain some Perl topics of interest to his continuing mod_perl series. [Apr 23, 2002] Installing mod_perl without superuser privileges In his continuing series on mod_perl, Stas Bekman explains how to install a mod_perl-ized Apache on a server even if you don't have root privileges. [Apr 10, 2002] mod_perl in 30 minutes This week, Stas Bekman shows us how to install and configure mod_perl, and how to start accelerating CGI scripts with Apache::Registry. [Mar 22, 2002] Why mod_perl? In the first of a series of articles from mod_perl guru, Stas Bekman, we begin by taking a look at what mod_perl is and what it can do for us. [Feb 26, 2002] Creating Modular Web Pages With EmbPerl If you have ever wished for an "include" HTML tag to reuse large chunks of HTML, you are in luck. Neil Gunton explains how Embperl solves the problem. [Mar 13, 2001] -- God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m=!٥ From hylinux at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 21:10:01 2005 From: hylinux at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?u8bStg==?=) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:10:01 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] mod_perl articles to translate at perl.com in the coming new year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <74646cb40512292110v7454c10au@mail.gmail.com> 我也觉得是,我们应该认真的学习一下mod_perl的知识。 在国内想学习mod_perl根本就找不到中文的资料。 如果说准备开始翻译mod_perl的资料。 我想我可以参加一个,虽然英文水平不怎么好,但是我想我可以锻炼一下,也不必完全按照原文的来,按意译的这个应该是可以的。 -------------- next part -------------- q?????!???,r??m??m???????j+??j)r?j??j?r????9??k?o?!??? From yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com Thu Dec 29 22:15:29 2005 From: yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com (Yu Zhiguo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:15:29 +0800 Subject: [PerlChina] =?utf-8?b?6K+36Zeu5ZOq5L2N55+l6YGTUEVSTOS4reWmgg==?= =?utf-8?b?5L2V5b6X55+lQ1BV55qE5p625p6E?= References: Message-ID: <036a01c60d08$6e822440$6704a8c0@skqianyi> 如何在PERL代码中的只CPU的architecture,比如32位还是64位? 应该有预定义变量的吧 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Jiang" To: Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: [PerlChina] mod_perl articles to translate at perl.com in thecoming new year > 虽然 mod_perl 已经是 2002-2003 年之间就开始成熟的东西,但是仍然有必要仔细的学习,希望我们能通过翻译资料,彼此学习。提高在这个 > web server 开发的基础领域认识,方便我们进一步了解象 catalyst 这样较为高级的开发框架。以下为 > http://www.perl.com/pub/q/Article_Archive#mod_perl > 提供的文章列表,已经转化为打印友善的链接(pub->lpt)。 > mod_perl > > Integrating mod_perl with Apache 2.1 > Authentication > It's a good time to be a programmer. Apache 2.1 and mod_perl 2 make it > tremendously easy to customize any part of the Apache request cycle. The > more secure but still easy-to-use Digest authentication is now widely > supported in web browsers. Geoffrey Young demonstrates how to write a custom > handler that handles Basic and Digest authentication with ease. [Jul 8, > 2003] > > Testing mod_perl 2.0 > Geoffrey Young examines another area of programming in mod_perl 2.0, testing > your mod_perl scripts. [May 22, 2003] > > Filters in Apache 2.0 > Geoffrey Young, co-author of the renowned mod_perl Cookbook, brings us an > introduction to Apache mod_perl 2.0, starting with Apache filters. [Apr 17, > 2003] > > Apache::VMonitor - The Visual System and Apache Server > Monitor > In Stas' final article in his mod_perl series, we investigate how to monitor > the performance and stability of our now fully-tuned mod_perl server using > Apache::VMonitor. [Apr 2, 2003] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 8 > In the penultimate of Stas Bekman's mod_perl articles, more of those obscure > Apache settings which can really speed up your web server. [Mar 4, 2003] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 7 > In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, more on how > settings in your Apache configuration can make or break performance. [Feb 5, > 2003] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 6 > In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, how to correctly > fork new processes under mod_perl. [Jan 7, 2003] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 5 > Stas Bekman continues his series on optimizing mod_perl by examining more > ways of saving on shared memory usage. [Dec 4, 2002] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 4 > Your web server may have plenty of memory, but are you making the best use > of it? Stas Bekman explains how to optimize Apache and mod_perl for the most > efficient memory use. [Jul 30, 2002] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 3 > This week, Stas Bekman explains how to use the Perl and mod_perl > benchmarking and memory measurement tools to perform worthwhile > optimizations on mod_perl programs. [Jul 16, 2002] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 2 > Before making any optimizations to mod_perl applications, it's important to > know what you need to be optimizing. Benchmarks are key to this, and Stas > Beckman introduces the important tools for mod_perl benchmarking. [Jun 19, > 2002] > > Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part > 1 > What do we need to think about when optimizing mod_perl applications? Stas > Bekman explains how hardware, software and good programming come into > play. [May 29, 2002] > > Finding a mod_perl ISP... or Becoming > One > You're ready to use mod_perl -- but do you have a server to run it on? Stas > Bekman explains what an ISP needs to do to run mod_perl programs, and how to > find an ISP that lets you do so. [May 22, 2002] > > The Perl You Need To Know - Part > 3 > Stas Bekman finishes his introduction to the basic Perl skills you need to > use mod_perl; this week, globals versus lexicals, modules and packages. [May > 15, 2002] > > The Perl You Need To Know - Part > 2 > Stas Bekman continues his mod_perl series by looking at the basic Perl > skills you need to use mod_perl; this week, subroutines inside > subroutines. [May 7, 2002] > > The Perl You Need To Know > This week, Stas Bekman goes back to basics to explain some Perl topics of > interest to his continuing mod_perl series. [Apr 23, 2002] > > Installing mod_perl without superuser > privileges > In his continuing series on mod_perl, Stas Bekman explains how to install a > mod_perl-ized Apache on a server even if you don't have root > privileges. [Apr 10, 2002] > > mod_perl in 30 minutes > This week, Stas Bekman shows us how to install and configure mod_perl, and > how to start accelerating CGI scripts with Apache::Registry. [Mar 22, 2002] > > Why mod_perl? > In the first of a series of articles from mod_perl guru, Stas Bekman, we > begin by taking a look at what mod_perl is and what it can do for us. [Feb > 26, 2002] > > Creating Modular Web Pages With > EmbPerl > If you have ever wished for an "include" HTML tag to reuse large chunks of > HTML, you are in luck. Neil Gunton explains how Embperl solves the > problem. [Mar 13, 2001] > > > > > -- > God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From chunzi at perlchina.org Thu Dec 29 22:31:10 2005 From: chunzi at perlchina.org (Chunzi) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:31:10 +0800 Subject: =?gb2312?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIMfrzsrExM671qq1wFBFUkzW0Mjnus61w9aqQ1BVtcS83Lm5?= Message-ID: Yu Zhiguo,您好! http://search.cpan.org/~mzsanford/Sys-CPU-0.40/CPU.pm ======= 2005-12-30 14:15:29 您在来信中写道:======= >如何在PERL代码中的只CPU的architecture,比如32位还是64位? >应该有预定义变量的吧 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Joe Jiang" >To: >Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:26 AM >Subject: [PerlChina] mod_perl articles to translate at perl.com in thecoming new year > > >> 虽然 mod_perl 已经是 2002-2003 年之间就开始成熟的东西,但是仍然有必要仔细的学习,希望我们能通过翻译资料,彼此学习。提高在这个 >> web server 开发的基础领域认识,方便我们进一步了解象 catalyst 这样较为高级的开发框架。以下为 >> http://www.perl.com/pub/q/Article_Archive#mod_perl >> 提供的文章列表,已经转化为打印友善的链接(pub->lpt)。 >> mod_perl >> >> Integrating mod_perl with Apache 2.1 >> Authentication >> It's a good time to be a programmer. Apache 2.1 and mod_perl 2 make it >> tremendously easy to customize any part of the Apache request cycle. The >> more secure but still easy-to-use Digest authentication is now widely >> supported in web browsers. Geoffrey Young demonstrates how to write a custom >> handler that handles Basic and Digest authentication with ease. [Jul 8, >> 2003] >> >> Testing mod_perl 2.0 >> Geoffrey Young examines another area of programming in mod_perl 2.0, testing >> your mod_perl scripts. [May 22, 2003] >> >> Filters in Apache 2.0 >> Geoffrey Young, co-author of the renowned mod_perl Cookbook, brings us an >> introduction to Apache mod_perl 2.0, starting with Apache filters. [Apr 17, >> 2003] >> >> Apache::VMonitor - The Visual System and Apache Server >> Monitor >> In Stas' final article in his mod_perl series, we investigate how to monitor >> the performance and stability of our now fully-tuned mod_perl server using >> Apache::VMonitor. [Apr 2, 2003] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 8 >> In the penultimate of Stas Bekman's mod_perl articles, more of those obscure >> Apache settings which can really speed up your web server. [Mar 4, 2003] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 7 >> In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, more on how >> settings in your Apache configuration can make or break performance. [Feb 5, >> 2003] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 6 >> In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, how to correctly >> fork new processes under mod_perl. [Jan 7, 2003] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 5 >> Stas Bekman continues his series on optimizing mod_perl by examining more >> ways of saving on shared memory usage. [Dec 4, 2002] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 4 >> Your web server may have plenty of memory, but are you making the best use >> of it? Stas Bekman explains how to optimize Apache and mod_perl for the most >> efficient memory use. [Jul 30, 2002] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 3 >> This week, Stas Bekman explains how to use the Perl and mod_perl >> benchmarking and memory measurement tools to perform worthwhile >> optimizations on mod_perl programs. [Jul 16, 2002] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 2 >> Before making any optimizations to mod_perl applications, it's important to >> know what you need to be optimizing. Benchmarks are key to this, and Stas >> Beckman introduces the important tools for mod_perl benchmarking. [Jun 19, >> 2002] >> >> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >> 1 >> What do we need to think about when optimizing mod_perl applications? Stas >> Bekman explains how hardware, software and good programming come into >> play. [May 29, 2002] >> >> Finding a mod_perl ISP... or Becoming >> One >> You're ready to use mod_perl -- but do you have a server to run it on? Stas >> Bekman explains what an ISP needs to do to run mod_perl programs, and how to >> find an ISP that lets you do so. [May 22, 2002] >> >> The Perl You Need To Know - Part >> 3 >> Stas Bekman finishes his introduction to the basic Perl skills you need to >> use mod_perl; this week, globals versus lexicals, modules and packages. [May >> 15, 2002] >> >> The Perl You Need To Know - Part >> 2 >> Stas Bekman continues his mod_perl series by looking at the basic Perl >> skills you need to use mod_perl; this week, subroutines inside >> subroutines. [May 7, 2002] >> >> The Perl You Need To Know >> This week, Stas Bekman goes back to basics to explain some Perl topics of >> interest to his continuing mod_perl series. [Apr 23, 2002] >> >> Installing mod_perl without superuser >> privileges >> In his continuing series on mod_perl, Stas Bekman explains how to install a >> mod_perl-ized Apache on a server even if you don't have root >> privileges. [Apr 10, 2002] >> >> mod_perl in 30 minutes >> This week, Stas Bekman shows us how to install and configure mod_perl, and >> how to start accelerating CGI scripts with Apache::Registry. [Mar 22, 2002] >> >> Why mod_perl? >> In the first of a series of articles from mod_perl guru, Stas Bekman, we >> begin by taking a look at what mod_perl is and what it can do for us. [Feb >> 26, 2002] >> >> Creating Modular Web Pages With >> EmbPerl >> If you have ever wished for an "include" HTML tag to reuse large chunks of >> HTML, you are in luck. Neil Gunton explains how Embperl solves the >> problem. [Mar 13, 2001] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> China-pm mailing list >> China-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >_______________________________________________ >China-pm mailing list >China-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =         致 礼!         Chunzi         chunzi at perlchina.org           2005-12-30 From yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com Thu Dec 29 22:40:43 2005 From: yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com (Yu Zhiguo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:40:43 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIOivt+mXruWTquS9jeefpemBk1BFUkzkuK3lpoI=?= =?utf-8?B?5L2V5b6X55+lQ1BV55qE5p625p6E?= References: <20051230063130.45521177A0@x6.develooper.com> Message-ID: <037a01c60d0b$f5504e40$6704a8c0@skqianyi> hello, Chunzi: 谢谢指点!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chunzi" To: Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 请问哪位知道PERL中如何得知CPU的架构 > Yu Zhiguo,您好! > > http://search.cpan.org/~mzsanford/Sys-CPU-0.40/CPU.pm > > ======= 2005-12-30 14:15:29 您在来信中写道:======= > >>如何在PERL代码中的只CPU的architecture,比如32位还是64位? >>应该有预定义变量的吧 >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Joe Jiang" >>To: >>Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:26 AM >>Subject: [PerlChina] mod_perl articles to translate at perl.com in thecoming new year >> >> >>> 虽然 mod_perl 已经是 2002-2003 年之间就开始成熟的东西,但是仍然有必要仔细的学习,希望我们能通过翻译资料,彼此学习。提高在这个 >>> web server 开发的基础领域认识,方便我们进一步了解象 catalyst 这样较为高级的开发框架。以下为 >>> http://www.perl.com/pub/q/Article_Archive#mod_perl >>> 提供的文章列表,已经转化为打印友善的链接(pub->lpt)。 >>> mod_perl >>> >>> Integrating mod_perl with Apache 2.1 >>> Authentication >>> It's a good time to be a programmer. Apache 2.1 and mod_perl 2 make it >>> tremendously easy to customize any part of the Apache request cycle. The >>> more secure but still easy-to-use Digest authentication is now widely >>> supported in web browsers. Geoffrey Young demonstrates how to write a custom >>> handler that handles Basic and Digest authentication with ease. [Jul 8, >>> 2003] >>> >>> Testing mod_perl 2.0 >>> Geoffrey Young examines another area of programming in mod_perl 2.0, testing >>> your mod_perl scripts. [May 22, 2003] >>> >>> Filters in Apache 2.0 >>> Geoffrey Young, co-author of the renowned mod_perl Cookbook, brings us an >>> introduction to Apache mod_perl 2.0, starting with Apache filters. [Apr 17, >>> 2003] >>> >>> Apache::VMonitor - The Visual System and Apache Server >>> Monitor >>> In Stas' final article in his mod_perl series, we investigate how to monitor >>> the performance and stability of our now fully-tuned mod_perl server using >>> Apache::VMonitor. [Apr 2, 2003] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 8 >>> In the penultimate of Stas Bekman's mod_perl articles, more of those obscure >>> Apache settings which can really speed up your web server. [Mar 4, 2003] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 7 >>> In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, more on how >>> settings in your Apache configuration can make or break performance. [Feb 5, >>> 2003] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 6 >>> In this month's episode of Stas Bekman's mod_perl series, how to correctly >>> fork new processes under mod_perl. [Jan 7, 2003] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 5 >>> Stas Bekman continues his series on optimizing mod_perl by examining more >>> ways of saving on shared memory usage. [Dec 4, 2002] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 4 >>> Your web server may have plenty of memory, but are you making the best use >>> of it? Stas Bekman explains how to optimize Apache and mod_perl for the most >>> efficient memory use. [Jul 30, 2002] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 3 >>> This week, Stas Bekman explains how to use the Perl and mod_perl >>> benchmarking and memory measurement tools to perform worthwhile >>> optimizations on mod_perl programs. [Jul 16, 2002] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 2 >>> Before making any optimizations to mod_perl applications, it's important to >>> know what you need to be optimizing. Benchmarks are key to this, and Stas >>> Beckman introduces the important tools for mod_perl benchmarking. [Jun 19, >>> 2002] >>> >>> Improving mod_perl Sites' Performance: Part >>> 1 >>> What do we need to think about when optimizing mod_perl applications? Stas >>> Bekman explains how hardware, software and good programming come into >>> play. [May 29, 2002] >>> >>> Finding a mod_perl ISP... or Becoming >>> One >>> You're ready to use mod_perl -- but do you have a server to run it on? Stas >>> Bekman explains what an ISP needs to do to run mod_perl programs, and how to >>> find an ISP that lets you do so. [May 22, 2002] >>> >>> The Perl You Need To Know - Part >>> 3 >>> Stas Bekman finishes his introduction to the basic Perl skills you need to >>> use mod_perl; this week, globals versus lexicals, modules and packages. [May >>> 15, 2002] >>> >>> The Perl You Need To Know - Part >>> 2 >>> Stas Bekman continues his mod_perl series by looking at the basic Perl >>> skills you need to use mod_perl; this week, subroutines inside >>> subroutines. [May 7, 2002] >>> >>> The Perl You Need To Know >>> This week, Stas Bekman goes back to basics to explain some Perl topics of >>> interest to his continuing mod_perl series. [Apr 23, 2002] >>> >>> Installing mod_perl without superuser >>> privileges >>> In his continuing series on mod_perl, Stas Bekman explains how to install a >>> mod_perl-ized Apache on a server even if you don't have root >>> privileges. [Apr 10, 2002] >>> >>> mod_perl in 30 minutes >>> This week, Stas Bekman shows us how to install and configure mod_perl, and >>> how to start accelerating CGI scripts with Apache::Registry. [Mar 22, 2002] >>> >>> Why mod_perl? >>> In the first of a series of articles from mod_perl guru, Stas Bekman, we >>> begin by taking a look at what mod_perl is and what it can do for us. [Feb >>> 26, 2002] >>> >>> Creating Modular Web Pages With >>> EmbPerl >>> If you have ever wished for an "include" HTML tag to reuse large chunks of >>> HTML, you are in luck. Neil Gunton explains how Embperl solves the >>> problem. [Mar 13, 2001] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> God May Always Inspire Life => Gmail >>> >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> China-pm mailing list >>> China-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm >>_______________________________________________ >>China-pm mailing list >>China-pm at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > >         致 > 礼! > > >         Chunzi >         chunzi at perlchina.org >           2005-12-30 > > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm From joejiang799 at gmail.com Thu Dec 29 22:42:49 2005 From: joejiang799 at gmail.com (Joe Jiang) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:42:49 +0800 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[PerlChina]_=E8=AF=B7=E9=97=AE?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=93=AA=E4=BD=8D=E7=9F=A5=E9=81=93PERL=E4=B8=AD?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=A6=82=E4=BD=95=E5=BE=97=E7=9F=A5C?= =?UTF-8?Q?PU=E7=9A=84=E6=9E=B6=E6=9E=84?= In-Reply-To: <036a01c60d08$6e822440$6704a8c0@skqianyi> References: <036a01c60d08$6e822440$6704a8c0@skqianyi> Message-ID: try to use sysinfo module please, cpan install Test::Smoke::SysInfo 要想知道 linux 具体的位数还是用 sysctl,但是不可移植 On 12/30/05, Yu Zhiguo wrote: > > 如何在PERL代码中的只CPU的architecture,比如32位还是64位? > 应该有预定义变量的吧 > > -------------- next part -------------- q0!,rmTDmj+bj)rjjZr?M9m_[:!٥ From yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com Thu Dec 29 22:52:00 2005 From: yuzg at nanjing-fnst.com (Yu Zhiguo) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:52:00 +0800 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtQZXJsQ2hpbmFdIOivt+mXruWTquS9jeefpemBk1BFUkzkuK3lpoI=?= =?utf-8?B?5L2V5b6X55+lQ1BV55qE5p625p6E?= References: <036a01c60d08$6e822440$6704a8c0@skqianyi> Message-ID: <039701c60d0d$88d64ec0$6704a8c0@skqianyi> thanks joejiang ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Jiang" To: Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [PerlChina] 请问哪位知道PERL中如何得知CPU的架构 > try to use sysinfo module please, cpan install Test::Smoke::SysInfo > > 要想知道 linux 具体的位数还是用 sysctl,但是不可移植 > > On 12/30/05, Yu Zhiguo wrote: >> >> 如何在PERL代码中的只CPU的architecture,比如32位还是64位? >> 应该有预定义变量的吧 >> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > China-pm mailing list > China-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/china-pm