<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I am very grateful for Perl. It runs everything for me from order entry to accounting general ledger entries. Have Perl code that sends emails from a private network, sms’s from a 4G modem, scrapes data, talks with my Asterisk server, classifies documents with </span><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; font-family: Menlo, Monaco, Consolas, "Liberation Mono", "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono", Courier, "Courier New", monospace; font-size: 14px; white-space: pre; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);">AI::NaiveBayes </span><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> and runs a website thanks to Perl Dancer2. I have only had to rely on python for .0001% of all my coding over the last 27 years. I am not a full time programmer and many of you would shake your head at some of my code— especially my code from early on— but it works well. </span></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 5, 2024, at 5:26 PM, Mike Fragassi <mikefrag@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I think Perl has advantages in system script "whipitupitude" because things like file operations, file tests, regexs, and backticks are all built-in functions & operators, that do not require importing from libraries as in Python (os, sys, re, subprocess). That said - once those libraries are learned, it's not *that* different, or difficult. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 2:14 PM Jay S <<a href="mailto:me@heyjay.com">me@heyjay.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">maybe one day I'll try to learn Python.<div>I always loved perl because it was so simple to do simple stuff quickly</div><div>my understanding is that Python is more formal, and not a quick to rip off a quick script</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 10:36 AM Mike Fragassi <<a href="mailto:mikefrag@gmail.com" target="_blank">mikefrag@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">This seems more or less correct. My Perl activity at work has become strictly maintenance of existing applications, including adding minor features. We've moved to Python for all new work. A lot of it comes down to that it used to be that all the new hires had at least passing experience with Perl; but now, it's Python instead. Slow attrition has left us with just 2 people at all comfortable with Perl, and I'm the only "expert". <br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">Incidentally, I was helped <u>immensely</u> when my job, for a moment, was willing to fund training; I jumped to take an in-person course from David Beazley, a local who has written/co-written several Python books, including O'Reilly's Python Cookbook. (His site is <a href="https://www.dabeaz.com/" target="_blank">https://www.dabeaz.com/</a>) <br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">Speaking for myself, the one thing that Python has, that makes me actually angry with Perl for missing, is built-in Exceptions. I will defend Perl's honor that it was not 'line noise' to anyone who tosses out that old line, but I never ever ever want to deal with "$@" again.<br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">Perl 6 is now "Raku" since 2019, and it seems that existing under its own "brand" is beneficial for both languages. It should have been done years earlier.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 9:56 PM Jay S <<a href="mailto:me@heyjay.com" target="_blank">me@heyjay.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Perl Mongers,<div>I hope all is well.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm only lightly technical these days, having moved into a sales role a decade ago. I haven't really done any programming for years.</div><div><br></div><div>It seems like Perl6 was too big an effort, leaderless, and sort of fizzled out while Python ascended. Technical folks I sell to all have Python people (and scala ruby Java(script)) - I never hear anyone mention Perl.</div><div><br></div><div>Is my perspective right, wrong? </div><div><br></div><div>Jay</div><div><br></div></div>
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